In my humble opinion, Lois is at least better because we actively see her trying to figure out who Superman is, and then after some confusion, she is actually supportive and both Clark and Lois are in a solid relationship
100000% she has daddy issues stemming from lying too. Clark wanted to trust her but needed time, she just figured out before he could. Her of all these examples makes sense
@@johnnyhall9154 not to mention that season 2 builds on this showing how they are both insecure about something in the relationship, but get through it together
@@lorenzoditrolio6680 Yup! It was just bad timing on the show runners part. Had this come out before Invincible, then no one would have an issue with it
The show played on some cliches which I thought was its best strength because it didn’t try to pretend it was “original “ it played on the drama for a few episodes and moved it along
Apparently the whole Magneto shenanigans happened because one of the main writers saw himself in Magneto, and made him his own self insert, and he also had a fictional crush on Rogue. So he start moving some sticks and it turned out into what it did. He is, allegedly, so extremely obsessed with this ship and with humilhating Gambit that he ended up getting fired after the Season finale.
One of the worst is the type of ones in anime that go, *”I’m so useless…”* when they get saved, only for the writer to forget about them wanting to get stronger so the love interest doesn’t get stronger so at least fifty scenes of them saying how useless they are exist.
@@pettybee3860 No cap, she's proved to be stronger so many time but sometimes Kishimoto forget his own character strength (she literally got yeeted by Karui lmao)
I hate when people in a relationship get mad at heroes hiding their identity like, you're still alive because of them. And if an enemy found out the hero is in a relationship they wouldn't rest until they gotten though them through their love interest.
I agree they shouldn't be mad,but how does the argument of the villain hurting them work? What difference will it make if they know the secret or not,won't they hurt them anyway? All the love interest has to do is keep the secret.
What I find interesting about this it is Donald Blake/Thor in the first Thor run. He refused to date Jane Foster despite mutual attraction because he couldn’t tell her that he’s Thor, but also didn’t want to lie to her about an integral part of who he is. So he didn’t date her.
I've seen Rouge's behavior in real life. While one partner didn't care for another when alive, after death, they act like they love her. And these "acting" is in front of other people. When no one is looking, he reverts back to normal.
Here’s my issue with the whole “well Rogue can’t touch Gambit without killing him” argument: There are collars that can disable mutant powers. She could just wear that whenever she wants to get intimate with her boyfriend or exchange any high-fives, and then take off the collar whenever she needs to use her superpowers. When you look at it like that, her powers are more of an inconvenience than a curse.
With Lois, it's not solely about the "lie." Moreso about what pushed her to that point. Yes, she figures out Clark is Superman, but Lois at least tries to let Clark know he can tell her anything, but of course, Clark doesn't get it. Unlike Amber, Lois is shown to be worried about Clark, and when he comes back to her hurt and lies about the injury, Lois can't take it anymore. She's still wrong, but there's more to why Lois is upset, and she admits when she's wrong and tries to make things right.
It was the lies for Amber. She was worried about him too. And she was always pro saving people, she literally works in the homeless shelter and rushed to help people in the robot fight. Unlike Lois who wasn't dating Clark, Amber was and she told him twice to break up with her if he wasn't ready
@@beccaogundipe7420 Yeah, Amber was one about helping people. Sure, Amber and Mark were dating, and even though Lois and Clark weren't dating yet, they were adults. However, the issue with Amber, aside from what you said, is that she knew Mark was invincible but didn't try to let Mark know he could tell her or come at it like Jimmy did with Clark. Especially when the show bends over backward to make Amber be in the right even though she's not. We get to understand Lois, Clark, and Jimmy's perspectives on this, but I can't say we get the same opportunity for Amber. We don't get a deeper understanding of her side of things. Mark is the one who got that opportunity.
*YES! FINALLY!* Her: "You lied to me..." Him: "I am a literal superhero who has nigh invulnerability. The only way they can truly hurt me is through my loved ones. Why the f- do you think I want to put you in harms way needlessly. Do you know how much of a risk I am taking to even let you know who I am?" 🤔
2:07 Original Rogue was my crush as a kid, and a solid crush now. Because of her if I get called sugar by a lady with a southern accent I'ma melt in their arms, RIP Real Rogue
Good news, My adventures with Superman finally gives Lois Lane a personality and reasonable rationale. She realized Clark was superman, waited for him to come forward and got angry that she was left out. BUT, like a rational and well rounded character, after talking with Clark she understood his perspective more and supported him as she had before. The frustration was more so about the lack of trust in her rather than the secret itself, the secret could have been that he puts milk before cereal lol. Plus, she is a certified badass in the show, the complete opposite of OG Lois. Amber is just a bad girlfriend and friend overall. She gets mad, shuts down, puts up barriers, and then instead of communication she gaslights and ghosts him. MIRACULOUSLY, Amber only starts caring about fixing their relationship when another woman comes into Marks life. She didn't change because she cared, she changed because someone was making a move on her Mark. Not to mention at no point in the series did these two have any chemistry.
Finally someone says it! I hate how people compare Lois to Amber! Lois is meant to be a flawed character who slowly grows and learns from her mistakes. She’s honestly my favorite character in the show especially after season 2 where we got to learn a lot more about her.
What’s ironic is that the Comic Amber was the complete opposite of Cartoon Amber. Mark told her his identity and they tried to work the relationship out but they had to break it off mutually. So much better.
@@ChadBenjamin Alright that is completely fair. I looked into it and you are right. Unfortunately most of my knowledge of her and exposure was from the Superman movies / shows, of which my basis was on. But yes comic book Lois is pretty awesome :D
Remember my brothers, if she ain't supportive of you like you are of her, she doesn't deserve you. Leave that scummy b and find someone who will make you feel like a king as you treat her like a queen.
So did Magneto when he try to sacrifice himself to save Rouge AND Gambit from the Sentinel blast. I feel that small part skip everyones thought process when both of them were trying to save the mutants.
@@apache8795 The giant sentinel attack Magneto causing the statue to fell, it wasn't partially his fault. You have to expect casualties while trying to defend the many people around ya. You don't think the other X-Men would be in that same scenario as well!
@@akilcharles3473 He ran at the sentinel angry with no plan. His snap decision causes the statue to fall. The X-men actively train for disaster scenarios and know how to work as a team. They also train to minimize civilian casualties.
Gambit did deserve so much better, but at least his "remember it" moment was the highlight of X-Men '97. I'm assuming that when Apocalypse brings Gambit back as the Horseman of Death in X-Men '97 season 2, the Rogue will see the error of her ways by the time that arc is over.
I mean she realized her error even after Genosha and fighting back at Bastion, but what do expect even if Gambit comes back(or that there'll be a season 2) will that accomplish!? She goes back to him, have Gambit forgive her and they lived happily ever after! This show has adult themes so we need to think like adults about this.
I'm so glad someone else spoke about Rogue and her 'My Man' thing because listen honey I'm a Rogue person like any other guy but you don't deserve to say that after what you did. On another personal opinion note I wouldn't let her back on the X-Men team she chose her side of the line and she needs to stay there.
Agreed, but taking accountability for your actions and having to live with those consequences are concepts that's not understood by a lot of people in this day and age. Don't be surprised that even after everything she did, Rogue ends up being easily forgiven and rewarded.
In x-men 97 not only they did Gambit dirty but also Rogue. If u watch the 90’s animated series there weren’t any signs or hints that Erik and Rogue used to be a couple. The writers of x-men clearly ignored it there was no past romance between these two. Erik didn’t even cared that Rogue lived or died and Rogue was concerned about Gambit Safety than Erik funeral. They pretty much did this because it happed in the comics. But people hated it when it first happen. Since they hated in the comics why would they like it in animation. This was definitely unnecessary and forced in x-men 97.
Was unnecessary an forced!? Sure just like introducing Bastion who Cable was suppose to also stop apart from Apocalypse or the Goblin Queen aka Madelyn Prior who we thought was just Jean but a different person. And keep in mind those were also in the comics but in different stories. And if were talking time travel with how the series ended featuring Apcolypse we could be seeing Rouge & Erik's quote son Magnus in the future. And don't get me wrong I hate the whole Erik & Rouge couple bit but then again I hate the whole love triangle between Cyclops,Jean & Logan as well as too many other shipping couples that shouldn't be a thing that beyond the age gap like Spiderman & Blackcat (dude was still a teen back then my guy).
What bothers me about Rogue & Gambit is that throughout XTAS and 97, there's signs of Rogue clearly enjoying the attention & affection Gambit gives her but always keeping him at an arm's distance which clearly shows that Rogue was portrayed to lead him on FOR 5 YEARS (XTAS was in set in 1992 iirc). I hated the mourning widow act as well, she was sneaking around with a man WHO HAS 3 KIDS AROUND HER AGE, cucked my man Gambit then act like she knew what she wanted the whole time! I hope in Season 2 Rogue gets confronted about her actions because she has a lot to answer for. (Damn I'm way too invested in this lol)
I've noticed that when a woman in a movie/show is toxic towards a man, people usually try to justify her actions but when the genders are reversed, people are less likely to defend the man's actions. Toxicity is toxicity and it should not be ignored no matter the gender.
on that part...everyones forgets pre bully maguire kissing gwen in SM-3 and even as a guy wanted to slap him hard like I wanted to slap rogue cucking gambit...ofcourse MJ wasnt better but peter had chance to not become whoπe like her but he became one...he was supposed to better than her...
The fact that Amber didnt know eve was adam eve despite the fact eve doesnt wear a mask. But knew Mark was invincible even though he wears a mask was the most brain dead writing ive ever seen. Atleast keep her being a "genius" consistent.
It isn’t really Disney’s fault, those moments were taken straight out of the comics, and there are a whole lot more dysfunctional moments in the comics than what this show has done so far.
@@nugget3327 that doesn't excuse you have to adapting shit source material that the comic fans already hated. like what if they adapted the spiderman clone saga? or iron heart. maybe you probably shouldn't adapt shit comics that the fans hated. because chances are high that they will still hate it lol.
Those moments were NOT taken straight out of the comics, the only thing that happen was that Mag was forcing himself on Rogue (who was barely in her teens at the time), trying to take advantage of her weaken state of mind and lack of powers, grabbing her arm and she says, "You're hurting me!" and he only stopped when they're interrupted... that's it.
I think you got everything right except Joker and Harley. It is supposed to be a twisted relationship by design. Just like how Homer Simpson is a display of what not to do as a father and husband, Joker and Harley are a depiction of psychological and emotional abuse paired with Stockholm Syndrome which does happen in relationships in reality. DC have been working very hard to try and turn Harley into a feminist icon and it does not fit her character at all, nor does it understand the point that pairing was trying to get across to audiences. It's also counter productive when they want to turn Harley into this "avoid the male gaze, I don't need no man!" feminist while at the same time depicting her in a more explicit get up looking like a prostitute on the corner of a bad street in L.A, rather than the harlequin design she is obviously supposed to invoke.
Exactly. I don't understand people who say they prefer Harley without the Joker. Like, Harley doesn't exist without the Joker. She has no reason to be crazy and commit crimes unless she is crazy for the Joker and committing crimes for the Joker. Just be honest and say you prefer Deadpool because that is essentially what you're saying anyway. And preferring her to stay with the Joker doesn't mean you support abuse or hate women. It's called fiction, and at no point has anyone (except ironically more feminist modern writers) ever tried to portray their relationship as romantic or healthy
It also doesn’t make sense when they are trying to push Harley and Ivy into a wholesome relationship. This ruins the whole point of the lesson of getting into relationships with toxic people. Posion Ivy is directly know for her abusive and manipulative tactics, but DC and Ivy’s fans try hard to act as if ivy isn’t also a manipulative attempted mass murderer who SA’s people (I usually see people say that the people that Ivy does that stuff to “deserve it” even though not all of her victims are even bad people). Ivy is exactly the type of person your not suppose to get into a relationship with. DC in stuff like the Harley Quinn show tries to constantly compare that Ivy and Harley are a much better and wholesome couple than Joker and Harley, but the thing is, they’d never even completely portray Ivy as her usual completely toxic self, they have to change Ivy’s abusive traits in order for it to be a ‘good’ relationship in the first place. Ivy AND joker are very toxic people, Ivy would make for a awful and very abusive partner.
@anotherrandomguy8871 Exactly, while I know Joker/Harley is meant to be toxic, and I like Harley being developed past that, Harley/Ivy feels so forced. I get the 'supportive friend becomes a lover' angle DC is trying to pull, but they do it without acknowledging both character's obvious flaws. Why couldn't we just get them working through it, like Ivy's SA and misanthropic past, Harley's billion Joker caused issues, to become a couple that helps each other get better, since DC wants them to be antiheroes now. I see people saying Harley was better when with the Joker, and while it'd probably get as boring as Peter Parker staying a broke college kid for 50 years, I can see the point. Ever since they broke off, she's a sexualised 'feminist' icon that they're trying to shoehorn as discount Deadpool, with her personality and goals ever changing so she has no set character.
@@puglove533 I don’t think I’d have a problem with a no-Joker Harley if it was developed naturally. But it’s all so forced. She just suddenly realizes she’s being abused and completely changes her motivations and personality for no reason. That’s not character development, that’s just a new character
@@puglove533 I really wish we could see more of a genuine redemption arc for Ivy that acknowledges her actions as actually bad. Like I want Ivy herself to actually reconize her actions as SA, because I never really see anyone even bring her action up as well…SA. Plus its pretty clear why the mind-control aspect of using people like pawns is toxic. It would be cool to see this sort of progression, BEFORE Harely and Ivy get together, Ivy has to work on her abusive traits, and Harely has to acknowledge the fact that her and joker have legit ended so many countless lives just for “fun” or just because she’s trying to prove her love to joker. I think that this way, you can still keep Ivy X Harely, and you can confidently say that the pair are a healthy relationship of friends to lovers because you showed their change, progress, and ankowldgment of their bad deeds, especially on Ivy’s side consedering her bad traits are things that would foreshadow a bad relationship. You kill 2 birds in 1 stone, you get the redemption of the two and the relationship of the two. It might sound like a lot to ask, but the two characters barely make sense as a pair, so might as well individually progress these two’s characters in order to make it make more sense. Maybe they do all of that stuff in comics already, but on TV shows idk if they do that at all. Harely’s change seems to always be that she’s already redeemed and sees her murderous days as a phase.
I think, at least my take, was that what Rogue did was supposed to be bad. And that she was kinda sad because she knew she totally messed up and there was no way to fix it
That's how I saw it. I also figured that's part of why she didn't show up to his funeral, because she knew what she did was wrong and she didn't feel like she deserved or should have gone to Gambit's funeral
I don’t see how MAWS Lois Lane fits the worst type of Love Interest the way Amber is. And compared to Amber, she’s at least likable and understandable.
The main reason that she’s better than amber is because the show outwardly acknowledges that she’s a flawed character and doesn’t make her out to be in the right like they did with Amber.
@@suzygirl1843 that I agree on. She actually felt like a genuinely nice person and I actually wanted to see her with Mark. But that also came with a different problem in that she didn’t even feel like the same character anymore. Which kinda made the whole relationship feel just a tad bit weird.
@superadambomb5834 The creators didn't understand their audience. S1 Amber can exist on BET, but mainstream media has different rules for different people. Can't display Amber's behavior on a mainstream platform. Even nice black girls aren't treated as well as their white counterparts. Someone did a video about this.
The G.O.A.T Batman the animated series did a great job in conveying the problems with abusive relationships and the more recent Harley Quinn animated series takes it a step further by holding Harley accountable for falling in love with a toxic partner like Joker by which she nearly loses all of her friends because of it. Now the Harley show doesn't 100% victim blame Harley for her decisions. The shows sheds another light on such relationships given the fact that most people find confidence very attractive in other people. The problem lies in the fact that most people can't tell the difference between a confident person and a narcissistic person hence leading to people getting themselves trapped in abusive relationships.
The funny thing is that Gambit has the ability to negate rogue’s touch in the comics, so he has no problem holding hands with rogue or kissing her though if I had to guess that ability came way later compared to rogue and magneto’s messed up relationship, idk I’m not an active comic book reader.
@@JuliusAmobiGambit manipulates kinetic energy; he primarily uses it to blow stuff up, but he can theoretically use to to run faster, jump farther, and punch harder.
@@SuperboyLillyso with his power he can make semi strong thin shield like superman dies with his kryptonian bioelectric touch teleknesis except superman does it better bloking heavy artilary makes everything he touches durable(hence lifting building without breaking it) and fly...
At least Lois has a reason for it. Her dad. The general trying to kill Superman throughout the series, acting sneaky and never telling her anything. It makes sense for her to be upset, even if she's wrong, unlike with Amber who just bitched and complained to Mark. In the end she makes up for it and apologizes
Lois is not one of the worst girlfriends. She’s an incredibly insecure person and she knows that, she tries to fix it but struggles to. She only got mad at Clark because he kept lying even when she made it clear she knows he’s fibbing. The rest are bad.
5:52 Fuck that, I’m not giving that trope to Amber. I’m giving it to Felicity from Arrow. Woman literally helped everyone die (Flash went back in time and fixed it)/walked out of her wheelchair out of anger because the hero “lied” in order to keep seeing his son. She’s the queen of “YOU LIED TO ME?! HRRRGRRGR” (but it never applies to when SHE lies…)
I much prefer the test Lois did to prove that Clark is Superman in Superman 2. Where she tries to “shot” Clark with a gun with no bullets in it. Shows that she’s smart and plans ahead, willing to do seemingly crazy things, and didn’t put anyone in actual danger
Yeah I was really pissed. They did my boy Gambit dirty and when I said that she was a piece of shit for what Rouge did. They've been a couple since the old school X-Men which was in the 90s now all suddenly it's a problem that you can't have physical Connection ? I'm sorry me personally me and magneto would have been fighting.
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω yes. I’m not dumb. I never said it was a good relationship nor have I said I wanted a relationship like it. It’s just my favorite fictional relationship
I think what made Lois look really bad: One she was lets her journo/job take priority, In their first case we see her lie to get what she wants, AND in later episodes Lois express real antagonism towards Superman, saying to clark's face "Oh im sooo gonna expose who superman is to the whole world!!" not really a good incentive to let clark open up to her specific and saying "I wouldn't have done it, for realzies!" is not enough reassurance Two: when there was the next episode after the reveal, where Jimmy tells to both Lois and Clark that his roomate wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and figured out himself he MIGHT Superman, Jimmy respected Clark enough to let HIM decide when he's gonna reveal that secret, makes her look entitled to know a deep secret of who's just a coworker at the the very least and a new friend at best.
Lois seems to have a cute personality, but her design is disgusting. Changing an elegant, beautiful, long haired, well dressed woman into a tomboy is disgusting.
Honestly, between Lois, Amber, and Rogue... the only one I liked was Lois. She at times said/did questionable things, but she grew and adapted into a likable character. Amber...Im sorry...I find nothing even remotely likable about her (the show one that is, comic Amber is likable). She is the literal definition of "the universe revolves around me and only me." I actually love Rogue as a character...except in X-Men '97. What she did to Gambit was (in my opinion) absolutely unforgivable. Plus later on she mentions a couple of times about how much she loved him. If she "loved" him, why did she leave him for someone who is old enough to be her grandfather (personally I don't think there is actually any legitimate reason for that)?
I know you were just using Foggy from Daredevil as a bit, but he actually has a good reason to be pissed at Matthew in this scene. 1. Foggy and Matt are lawyers and partners. Foggy believed at the time that the law was the right way to stop a villain and that vigilantism is wrong. 2: Matt didn’t just lie about the secret identity, he also has been lying about his abilities since they met in college before he put on the mask. Every time Foggy lied, Matt knew and pretended to not know. Every time Matt walked around with the cane, he could have moved better than Foggy could. Matt lied not only about the vigilantism, but also important aspects of his normal life that could have helped in their personal lives and their law pursuits more if they were both on the same page. 3: Matt almost died the night that Foggy found out. Foggy helped nurse him back to health despite the lies. 4: Because Matt was off doing hero work, often times Foggy was forced to handle the lawyer things by himself despite the fact that they’re partners. There have been trials and jobs that he was kinda screwed over because of it. Matt genuinely treated Foggy badly, especially in the 1st and 3rd seasons of the show. It was still funny to see him in the video though.
It’s so tiring watching people GLAZEE Lois because she isn’t unique or interesting to me. Every time i see her, her personality and style is the Luz from owl house, and half the time she’s upset with someone.. idk she’s def not as bad as Rouge but she isn’t great.
Here’s the thing about the relationship with rogue and magneto. The fans well told in advance that they were going to do this and they hated it and were telling the writers not to go down that path and they did it anyway. Thankfully he’s since been fired from the show altogether. If you want to know who was responsible for that story it was beau de mayo and he’s a straight up creep in real life.
As for Lois Lane it was kind of the whole point that she shouldn’t have been that upset. She is the most flawed character in the show besides the villains. She is a stubborn insecure mess of a human being and often times that can make her relatable to some people. Their whole argument on the rooftop is actually one of the better versions of the “you lied to me” trope. It was built up before that Lois hates being lied too and having secrets kept from her due to past experiences with her father. Without her mother around anymore and her father being mostly absent besides some camping trips she really didn’t have anyone to fully help her understand how to deal with certain things in her life. She had so much built up anger over her father that she projects it onto Clark, someone she thought she could finally trust. You can’t really compare her to Amber because in Ambers case the show made her out to be the one in the right when in actuality she was extremely manipulative while Lois on the other hand is called out on a lot of her flaws and the show never makes her appear to be this perfect marry sue and instead allows her to grow from her flaws and learn from her mistakes so that she can be better for Clark. Season 2 goes a bit more into her character showing her childhood and even more into her own mental state and it really fleshes her out and honestly she’s now my favorite character in the show. I also highly recommend watching season 2 since it was nothing short of incredible.
Rogue has a healthy relationship in the comics with no cheating or drama... what comics have you been reading???? All Rogue did thought out the 90s was lead Gambit on, only to push him away, running away from him, treating him like a doormat, spending more time with Joseph (a clone of Mag and doing so right in front of Gambit), leaving him to freeze to death in Antarctica because of his past while ignoring others and her own, getting her control of her powers to just leave him to sleep with Mag because she wanted to "explore" (her words)… that's not a healthy relationship whatsoever...
I’m saying that in the run of Uncanny Avengers( the 2017 and 2024 specifically) Rogue and Deadpool had a brief relationship that dosen’t include cheating or some kind of drama.
you added a photo of foggy in the you lied to me trope and I wanted some justice for him because he has a valid reason for being mad. Him and matt run a legal practice together and matt is contantly flaky and giving foggy no justicifcation for where he is or why hes putting so much pressure on foggy. He constantly gets the two of them and their business in hot water and then explains nothing to foggy whos left to cover his ass.
Gambit is My favorite character and rogue is one of my favorites too, the actions that she did were kinda stupid but clearly this is all set up for season 2, gambit is obviously coming back through apocalypse and I believe this will come with a fantastic story between gambit and rogue.
Where hopefully Gambit gets some self-respect, walks away from Rogue and gets together with someone else since she needs to pay the consequences of her actions and not be forgiven and rewarded. You have to draw the line somewhere and say enough is enough and stay broken up and far away from each other.
Did she (Rogue) not have a fling with Magneto in the comics either ? Also Lois isn't bad in my adventures with Superman 😅🤷♂️😂😂😂good video though ! Edit: Rogues case sucks despite the nod to the comics (bad way to showcase accuracy)
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Justice for my boy gambit😭
They did my goat NASTY
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THE NAME'S GAMBIT ESSAY REMEMBER IT. Man I had to pour one out to Gambit
@@KMBA526 devious work
He's a bum
In my humble opinion, Lois is at least better because we actively see her trying to figure out who Superman is, and then after some confusion, she is actually supportive and both Clark and Lois are in a solid relationship
100000% she has daddy issues stemming from lying too. Clark wanted to trust her but needed time, she just figured out before he could. Her of all these examples makes sense
@@johnnyhall9154 not to mention that season 2 builds on this showing how they are both insecure about something in the relationship, but get through it together
@@lorenzoditrolio6680 Yup! It was just bad timing on the show runners part. Had this come out before Invincible, then no one would have an issue with it
They would have still dead and if that show came out before invincible people would have complained regardless@@johnnyhall9154
The show played on some cliches which I thought was its best strength because it didn’t try to pretend it was “original “ it played on the drama for a few episodes and moved it along
Apparently the whole Magneto shenanigans happened because one of the main writers saw himself in Magneto, and made him his own self insert, and he also had a fictional crush on Rogue. So he start moving some sticks and it turned out into what it did.
He is, allegedly, so extremely obsessed with this ship and with humilhating Gambit that he ended up getting fired after the Season finale.
what os his name? I am gonna do do tosic twitter thingie...
@@tonuahmed4227understandable, I would also like it
@@tonuahmed4227 Don't! Its not worth it!
@@wander7812
You mean that psychotic douchebag named Beau DeMayo. A assaulting villain who deserves no redemption after what he has done?
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One of the worst is the type of ones in anime that go, *”I’m so useless…”* when they get saved, only for the writer to forget about them wanting to get stronger so the love interest doesn’t get stronger so at least fifty scenes of them saying how useless they are exist.
This feels a little bit like Sakura 💀
Is the orihime slander bc I’d support it
@@pettybee3860 No cap, she's proved to be stronger so many time but sometimes Kishimoto forget his own character strength (she literally got yeeted by Karui lmao)
@@pettybee3860was gonna say lol. But she does get slug healing powers
@@pettybee3860feels like female love interest
I hate when people in a relationship get mad at heroes hiding their identity like, you're still alive because of them. And if an enemy found out the hero is in a relationship they wouldn't rest until they gotten though them through their love interest.
I agree they shouldn't be mad,but how does the argument of the villain hurting them work? What difference will it make if they know the secret or not,won't they hurt them anyway? All the love interest has to do is keep the secret.
What I find interesting about this it is Donald Blake/Thor in the first Thor run. He refused to date Jane Foster despite mutual attraction because he couldn’t tell her that he’s Thor, but also didn’t want to lie to her about an integral part of who he is. So he didn’t date her.
I've seen Rouge's behavior in real life. While one partner didn't care for another when alive, after death, they act like they love her. And these "acting" is in front of other people. When no one is looking, he reverts back to normal.
She was not acting. She was crashing out
@@prideguy3233Because it’s the writing….he’s being realistic
...no that's fucking stupid, that exact situation is realistic @@Realcordy
Most of the X-men in this show aren’t good people. They’re just crappy people trying to be good. And it pulled me out of it. Rogue is just a douche.
@@QuantumSqueebI think calling them crappy people is a bit of a stretch
The writer who came up with the gala scene should be monitored by the authority. Man was pushing sixty when she was born.
My boy Gambit deserved so much better
Here’s my issue with the whole “well Rogue can’t touch Gambit without killing him” argument:
There are collars that can disable mutant powers. She could just wear that whenever she wants to get intimate with her boyfriend or exchange any high-fives, and then take off the collar whenever she needs to use her superpowers.
When you look at it like that, her powers are more of an inconvenience than a curse.
The problem is that the collars are harmful and uncomfortable for mutants
The modified collar and besides its tech if its feels uncomfortable the can modify it to be good@Theofficialtino
You can’t really the character blame the writers
@@Theofficialtino beast made a harmless version military weaponized it.
@@rileyowen7245 yea that’s true but in the show they not at that point yet
With Lois, it's not solely about the "lie." Moreso about what pushed her to that point. Yes, she figures out Clark is Superman, but Lois at least tries to let Clark know he can tell her anything, but of course, Clark doesn't get it. Unlike Amber, Lois is shown to be worried about Clark, and when he comes back to her hurt and lies about the injury, Lois can't take it anymore. She's still wrong, but there's more to why Lois is upset, and she admits when she's wrong and tries to make things right.
It was the lies for Amber. She was worried about him too. And she was always pro saving people, she literally works in the homeless shelter and rushed to help people in the robot fight. Unlike Lois who wasn't dating Clark, Amber was and she told him twice to break up with her if he wasn't ready
@@beccaogundipe7420 Yeah, Amber was one about helping people. Sure, Amber and Mark were dating, and even though Lois and Clark weren't dating yet, they were adults. However, the issue with Amber, aside from what you said, is that she knew Mark was invincible but didn't try to let Mark know he could tell her or come at it like Jimmy did with Clark. Especially when the show bends over backward to make Amber be in the right even though she's not.
We get to understand Lois, Clark, and Jimmy's perspectives on this, but I can't say we get the same opportunity for Amber. We don't get a deeper understanding of her side of things. Mark is the one who got that opportunity.
Then what right do you have to be mad over that! If he didn’t want to tell you, then he wasn’t ready…they weren’t even dating so that audacity!
You'd think she'd be understanding about that. There are just some things you just don't have to talk about..
I knew rogue did gambit dirty…but not THAT dirty
*YES! FINALLY!*
Her: "You lied to me..."
Him: "I am a literal superhero who has nigh invulnerability. The only way they can truly hurt me is through my loved ones. Why the f- do you think I want to put you in harms way needlessly. Do you know how much of a risk I am taking to even let you know who I am?" 🤔
2:07 Original Rogue was my crush as a kid, and a solid crush now. Because of her if I get called sugar by a lady with a southern accent I'ma melt in their arms, RIP Real Rogue
Keep dreaming
Jk 😂
Good news, My adventures with Superman finally gives Lois Lane a personality and reasonable rationale. She realized Clark was superman, waited for him to come forward and got angry that she was left out. BUT, like a rational and well rounded character, after talking with Clark she understood his perspective more and supported him as she had before. The frustration was more so about the lack of trust in her rather than the secret itself, the secret could have been that he puts milk before cereal lol. Plus, she is a certified badass in the show, the complete opposite of OG Lois.
Amber is just a bad girlfriend and friend overall. She gets mad, shuts down, puts up barriers, and then instead of communication she gaslights and ghosts him. MIRACULOUSLY, Amber only starts caring about fixing their relationship when another woman comes into Marks life. She didn't change because she cared, she changed because someone was making a move on her Mark. Not to mention at no point in the series did these two have any chemistry.
Lois literally has an arc where she comes to the conclusion that "love isn't for cowards" idk what this youtuber is smoking
Finally someone says it! I hate how people compare Lois to Amber! Lois is meant to be a flawed character who slowly grows and learns from her mistakes. She’s honestly my favorite character in the show especially after season 2 where we got to learn a lot more about her.
What’s ironic is that the Comic Amber was the complete opposite of Cartoon Amber. Mark told her his identity and they tried to work the relationship out but they had to break it off mutually. So much better.
How is OG Lois not a badass? What Superman media have you been consuming lmao, she was shooting machine guns at gangsters back in the 1940s.
@@ChadBenjamin Alright that is completely fair. I looked into it and you are right. Unfortunately most of my knowledge of her and exposure was from the Superman movies / shows, of which my basis was on. But yes comic book Lois is pretty awesome :D
Gambit was done dirty. I soooo happy I wasn't the only one agree.
Why is every superhero girlfriend so trash and have the dumbest reasons to be angry? 😂
Because they're written by MEN
A nice guy like Gambit getting disrespected and cheated on is pretty realistic tbh. RIP Gambit.
Remember my brothers, if she ain't supportive of you like you are of her, she doesn't deserve you. Leave that scummy b and find someone who will make you feel like a king as you treat her like a queen.
Amen
Gambit didn't sacrifice himself for Rogue, Gambit sacrificed himself for Genosha.
So did Magneto when he try to sacrifice himself to save Rouge AND Gambit from the Sentinel blast. I feel that small part skip everyones thought process when both of them were trying to save the mutants.
@@akilcharles3473Magneto made the situation worse when he charged the sentinel. He was the whole reason the statue fell on the crowd.
@@apache8795 The giant sentinel attack Magneto causing the statue to fell, it wasn't partially his fault. You have to expect casualties while trying to defend the many people around ya. You don't think the other X-Men would be in that same scenario as well!
Good god, this user is such a Mag fanboy...
@@akilcharles3473 He ran at the sentinel angry with no plan. His snap decision causes the statue to fall. The X-men actively train for disaster scenarios and know how to work as a team. They also train to minimize civilian casualties.
Gambit did deserve so much better, but at least his "remember it" moment was the highlight of X-Men '97. I'm assuming that when Apocalypse brings Gambit back as the Horseman of Death in X-Men '97 season 2, the Rogue will see the error of her ways by the time that arc is over.
Wait, he is coming back?
Since there are some hints of that happening, yes he will most likely come back.
@@nugget3327 YEEEEEEEEE-
I mean she realized her error even after Genosha and fighting back at Bastion, but what do expect even if Gambit comes back(or that there'll be a season 2) will that accomplish!? She goes back to him, have Gambit forgive her and they lived happily ever after! This show has adult themes so we need to think like adults about this.
@@EldenLord-wh4ovsince when do comic book characters stay dead?
I'm so glad someone else spoke about Rogue and her 'My Man' thing because listen honey I'm a Rogue person like any other guy but you don't deserve to say that after what you did.
On another personal opinion note I wouldn't let her back on the X-Men team she chose her side of the line and she needs to stay there.
Agreed, but taking accountability for your actions and having to live with those consequences are concepts that's not understood by a lot of people in this day and age. Don't be surprised that even after everything she did, Rogue ends up being easily forgiven and rewarded.
At least Cajun Gambit was confirmed alive in a deleted scene. He truly did make a name for himself here
In x-men 97 not only they did Gambit dirty but also Rogue. If u watch the 90’s animated series there weren’t any signs or hints that Erik and Rogue used to be a couple. The writers of x-men clearly ignored it there was no past romance between these two. Erik didn’t even cared that Rogue lived or died and Rogue was concerned about Gambit Safety than Erik funeral. They pretty much did this because it happed in the comics. But people hated it when it first happen. Since they hated in the comics why would they like it in animation. This was definitely unnecessary and forced in x-men 97.
Honestly, I think beu de meyo just wanted an excuse to see Magneto making out with someone.
@@Ryan_Reynolds81bro 😂
@@Ryan_Reynolds81makes sense considering what he was accused of
Was unnecessary an forced!? Sure just like introducing Bastion who Cable was suppose to also stop apart from Apocalypse or the Goblin Queen aka Madelyn Prior who we thought was just Jean but a different person. And keep in mind those were also in the comics but in different stories. And if were talking time travel with how the series ended featuring Apcolypse we could be seeing Rouge & Erik's quote son Magnus in the future. And don't get me wrong I hate the whole Erik & Rouge couple bit but then again I hate the whole love triangle between Cyclops,Jean & Logan as well as too many other shipping couples that shouldn't be a thing that beyond the age gap like Spiderman & Blackcat (dude was still a teen back then my guy).
@@akilcharles3473 you seriously deleted your original reply to say this?
What bothers me about Rogue & Gambit is that throughout XTAS and 97, there's signs of Rogue clearly enjoying the attention & affection Gambit gives her but always keeping him at an arm's distance which clearly shows that Rogue was portrayed to lead him on FOR 5 YEARS (XTAS was in set in 1992 iirc). I hated the mourning widow act as well, she was sneaking around with a man WHO HAS 3 KIDS AROUND HER AGE, cucked my man Gambit then act like she knew what she wanted the whole time!
I hope in Season 2 Rogue gets confronted about her actions because she has a lot to answer for. (Damn I'm way too invested in this lol)
Honestly sounds like bad writing, like the guy just didn't understand the characters and wanted to shove some drama into his plot.
The showrunner, who got fired, was living out some sick fantasy
I've noticed that when a woman in a movie/show is toxic towards a man, people usually try to justify her actions but when the genders are reversed, people are less likely to defend the man's actions. Toxicity is toxicity and it should not be ignored no matter the gender.
on that part...everyones forgets pre bully maguire kissing gwen in SM-3 and even as a guy wanted to slap him hard like I wanted to slap rogue cucking gambit...ofcourse MJ wasnt better but peter had chance to not become whoπe like her but he became one...he was supposed to better than her...
@@tonuahmed4227both Peter and MJ in Raimi 3 are god awful people.
The only redeeming thing about that movie is Sandman’s arc.
The fact that Amber didnt know eve was adam eve despite the fact eve doesnt wear a mask. But knew Mark was invincible even though he wears a mask was the most brain dead writing ive ever seen. Atleast keep her being a "genius" consistent.
never hear out someone who says "hear me out" ON THE JOKER
FR (except lego joker hes my adopted child)
@@Justaperson-on4mx Lego Batman Movie Joker is the only acceptable Joker
Rogue for the streets for sure💀💀
shes for the danger room
Imo the worst couple in comics was ultimate scarlet witch and quicksilver, for obvious reasons. Joker and Harley are a close second however.
Hulk and She Hulk in the Old man Logan universe is also disgusting.
I honestly wanna know what made Disney show Rogue kiss and dance with an old man in front of her ex.
It isn’t really Disney’s fault, those moments were taken straight out of the comics, and there are a whole lot more dysfunctional moments in the comics than what this show has done so far.
@@nugget3327 that doesn't excuse you have to adapting shit source material that the comic fans already hated.
like what if they adapted the spiderman clone saga? or iron heart. maybe you probably shouldn't adapt shit comics that the fans hated. because chances are high that they will still hate it lol.
@@V3RAC1TY it really doesn’t, and yet they still decided to adapt it anyway.
Those moments were NOT taken straight out of the comics, the only thing that happen was that Mag was forcing himself on Rogue (who was barely in her teens at the time), trying to take advantage of her weaken state of mind and lack of powers, grabbing her arm and she says, "You're hurting me!" and he only stopped when they're interrupted... that's it.
I think you got everything right except Joker and Harley. It is supposed to be a twisted relationship by design. Just like how Homer Simpson is a display of what not to do as a father and husband, Joker and Harley are a depiction of psychological and emotional abuse paired with Stockholm Syndrome which does happen in relationships in reality.
DC have been working very hard to try and turn Harley into a feminist icon and it does not fit her character at all, nor does it understand the point that pairing was trying to get across to audiences. It's also counter productive when they want to turn Harley into this "avoid the male gaze, I don't need no man!" feminist while at the same time depicting her in a more explicit get up looking like a prostitute on the corner of a bad street in L.A, rather than the harlequin design she is obviously supposed to invoke.
Exactly. I don't understand people who say they prefer Harley without the Joker. Like, Harley doesn't exist without the Joker. She has no reason to be crazy and commit crimes unless she is crazy for the Joker and committing crimes for the Joker. Just be honest and say you prefer Deadpool because that is essentially what you're saying anyway.
And preferring her to stay with the Joker doesn't mean you support abuse or hate women. It's called fiction, and at no point has anyone (except ironically more feminist modern writers) ever tried to portray their relationship as romantic or healthy
It also doesn’t make sense when they are trying to push Harley and Ivy into a wholesome relationship. This ruins the whole point of the lesson of getting into relationships with toxic people. Posion Ivy is directly know for her abusive and manipulative tactics, but DC and Ivy’s fans try hard to act as if ivy isn’t also a manipulative attempted mass murderer who SA’s people (I usually see people say that the people that Ivy does that stuff to “deserve it” even though not all of her victims are even bad people). Ivy is exactly the type of person your not suppose to get into a relationship with.
DC in stuff like the Harley Quinn show tries to constantly compare that Ivy and Harley are a much better and wholesome couple than Joker and Harley, but the thing is, they’d never even completely portray Ivy as her usual completely toxic self, they have to change Ivy’s abusive traits in order for it to be a ‘good’ relationship in the first place. Ivy AND joker are very toxic people, Ivy would make for a awful and very abusive partner.
@anotherrandomguy8871 Exactly, while I know Joker/Harley is meant to be toxic, and I like Harley being developed past that, Harley/Ivy feels so forced.
I get the 'supportive friend becomes a lover' angle DC is trying to pull, but they do it without acknowledging both character's obvious flaws. Why couldn't we just get them working through it, like Ivy's SA and misanthropic past, Harley's billion Joker caused issues, to become a couple that helps each other get better, since DC wants them to be antiheroes now.
I see people saying Harley was better when with the Joker, and while it'd probably get as boring as Peter Parker staying a broke college kid for 50 years, I can see the point. Ever since they broke off, she's a sexualised 'feminist' icon that they're trying to shoehorn as discount Deadpool, with her personality and goals ever changing so she has no set character.
@@puglove533 I don’t think I’d have a problem with a no-Joker Harley if it was developed naturally. But it’s all so forced. She just suddenly realizes she’s being abused and completely changes her motivations and personality for no reason. That’s not character development, that’s just a new character
@@puglove533 I really wish we could see more of a genuine redemption arc for Ivy that acknowledges her actions as actually bad. Like I want Ivy herself to actually reconize her actions as SA, because I never really see anyone even bring her action up as well…SA. Plus its pretty clear why the mind-control aspect of using people like pawns is toxic. It would be cool to see this sort of progression, BEFORE Harely and Ivy get together, Ivy has to work on her abusive traits, and Harely has to acknowledge the fact that her and joker have legit ended so many countless lives just for “fun” or just because she’s trying to prove her love to joker.
I think that this way, you can still keep Ivy X Harely, and you can confidently say that the pair are a healthy relationship of friends to lovers because you showed their change, progress, and ankowldgment of their bad deeds, especially on Ivy’s side consedering her bad traits are things that would foreshadow a bad relationship. You kill 2 birds in 1 stone, you get the redemption of the two and the relationship of the two. It might sound like a lot to ask, but the two characters barely make sense as a pair, so might as well individually progress these two’s characters in order to make it make more sense.
Maybe they do all of that stuff in comics already, but on TV shows idk if they do that at all. Harely’s change seems to always be that she’s already redeemed and sees her murderous days as a phase.
This editing is top tier, I’m crying😭
A teenager romance with a Grandpa is weird as fuck 💀
I think, at least my take, was that what Rogue did was supposed to be bad. And that she was kinda sad because she knew she totally messed up and there was no way to fix it
That's how I saw it. I also figured that's part of why she didn't show up to his funeral, because she knew what she did was wrong and she didn't feel like she deserved or should have gone to Gambit's funeral
@@Wind_Cursed Yeah, agreed. I hope that in season 2 they develop it more, especially if Gambit returns as one of Apocalypse's four horsemen
@@QuatarTarandir Man, I hope he returns. He's my favorite. I hope they address all that stuff, too
I don’t see how MAWS Lois Lane fits the worst type of Love Interest the way Amber is. And compared to Amber, she’s at least likable and understandable.
The main reason that she’s better than amber is because the show outwardly acknowledges that she’s a flawed character and doesn’t make her out to be in the right like they did with Amber.
@@superadambomb5834S2 Amber was good
@@suzygirl1843 that I agree on. She actually felt like a genuinely nice person and I actually wanted to see her with Mark. But that also came with a different problem in that she didn’t even feel like the same character anymore. Which kinda made the whole relationship feel just a tad bit weird.
@superadambomb5834 The creators didn't understand their audience. S1 Amber can exist on BET, but mainstream media has different rules for different people. Can't display Amber's behavior on a mainstream platform. Even nice black girls aren't treated as well as their white counterparts. Someone did a video about this.
@@superadambomb5834 they obviously changed her character due to backlash. it felt like a desperate attempt to make her 'likeable' to audiences.
The G.O.A.T Batman the animated series did a great job in conveying the problems with abusive relationships and the more recent Harley Quinn animated series takes it a step further by holding Harley accountable for falling in love with a toxic partner like Joker by which she nearly loses all of her friends because of it. Now the Harley show doesn't 100% victim blame Harley for her decisions. The shows sheds another light on such relationships given the fact that most people find confidence very attractive in other people. The problem lies in the fact that most people can't tell the difference between a confident person and a narcissistic person hence leading to people getting themselves trapped in abusive relationships.
The funny thing is that Gambit has the ability to negate rogue’s touch in the comics, so he has no problem holding hands with rogue or kissing her though if I had to guess that ability came way later compared to rogue and magneto’s messed up relationship, idk I’m not an active comic book reader.
Okay so explain Gambit's abilities cause I have not read the comics
@@JuliusAmobiGambit manipulates kinetic energy; he primarily uses it to blow stuff up, but he can theoretically use to to run faster, jump farther, and punch harder.
@@SuperboyLillyso with his power he can make semi strong thin shield like superman dies with his kryptonian bioelectric touch teleknesis except superman does it better bloking heavy artilary makes everything he touches durable(hence lifting building without breaking it) and fly...
idc Lois Lane will always be superior to that girl from invincible and I will stand on that.
Lois Lane slander needs to end.
tomboy lois lane on top fr
Did you watch the video... you really should finish it before commenting something like this
@@morgan.arthur15 nah I have my reasons and I’m standing on them
@@Home2me He never said the girl from invincible was better though 😭He makes it clear that he thinks Lois is a good character
@@morgan.arthur15 that ain’t even the reason
The guy and the monkey talking 6:41 had me dying😂
i thought i finally healed from the gambit x rouge x magneto situation but here we are
3:45 I was already iffy on whether or not to watch this show, but now you’ve just made that decision much easier
I literally JUST watched these YESTERDAY this is perfect timing
"I watched you change..." (Goku vs Cooler Flashbacks)
At least Lois has a reason for it. Her dad. The general trying to kill Superman throughout the series, acting sneaky and never telling her anything. It makes sense for her to be upset, even if she's wrong, unlike with Amber who just bitched and complained to Mark. In the end she makes up for it and apologizes
Rip gambit bruh
They definitely did this to him after Deadpool and wolverine 😭
Yo btw I need a full length explanation of why you think the Venom movies are cheeks, they are my childhood dream come true man!
Lois is not one of the worst girlfriends. She’s an incredibly insecure person and she knows that, she tries to fix it but struggles to.
She only got mad at Clark because he kept lying even when she made it clear she knows he’s fibbing.
The rest are bad.
Nah bro gambits the love interest over rogue dont get it twisted 😭
Even worse. My boy Gambit deserves better
my heart shattered when it was first revealed. i feel sooo bad for gambit.
man I loved this, continue with your good work
How about the worst type of relationships
Daredevil and elektra both movie and show
And also batman and Talia because she baby trapped him
that was retconed
" Cuz She belongs to Streets "
5:52 Fuck that, I’m not giving that trope to Amber. I’m giving it to Felicity from Arrow. Woman literally helped everyone die (Flash went back in time and fixed it)/walked out of her wheelchair out of anger because the hero “lied” in order to keep seeing his son. She’s the queen of “YOU LIED TO ME?! HRRRGRRGR” (but it never applies to when SHE lies…)
I much prefer the test Lois did to prove that Clark is Superman in Superman 2. Where she tries to “shot” Clark with a gun with no bullets in it. Shows that she’s smart and plans ahead, willing to do seemingly crazy things, and didn’t put anyone in actual danger
Yeah I was really pissed. They did my boy Gambit dirty and when I said that she was a piece of shit for what Rouge did. They've been a couple since the old school X-Men which was in the 90s now all suddenly it's a problem that you can't have physical Connection ? I'm sorry me personally me and magneto would have been fighting.
When he put Dashie's stare into the vid I died 😭💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rogue is for the danger room 💀
yeah gambit was done so incredibly dirty.
7:17 did it for me 😂
I’m man 😭
How dare you put Lois in this category 😂 I love her
YOU'RE BACK!!!! I GOON TO YOUR VIDEOS THANKS FOR POSTING AGAIN!!! ♥
Yo your editing is so hilarious 😂. I had to rewind a couple times cause I missed the video from laughing
This why X Men Evolution Rogue is the Best version of Rogue
In order to have a good gambit in the movie, a gambit must be done dirty in the show
Took ya long enough. Literally every comic related show has a line like “YOU LIED TO ME”. This a fun video though
Harley and Joker is my favorite fictional relationship🙂✌🏽
you can't be serious
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω I am serious
@@NaishiGaming really
you know this is an abusive relationship
right ?
the Joker doesn't actually love harley
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω yes. I’m not dumb. I never said it was a good relationship nor have I said I wanted a relationship like it. It’s just my favorite fictional relationship
2024 is the year of Gambit. “I’m about to make a name for myself!” Rest in peace , our goat
The show takes place in ‘97, so I don’t think Magneto is anywhere near his nineties, as he was a boy in WWII.
I think what made Lois look really bad: One she was lets her journo/job take priority, In their first case we see her lie to get what she wants, AND in later episodes Lois express real antagonism towards Superman, saying to clark's face "Oh im sooo gonna expose who superman is to the whole world!!" not really a good incentive to let clark open up to her specific and saying "I wouldn't have done it, for realzies!" is not enough reassurance
Two: when there was the next episode after the reveal, where Jimmy tells to both Lois and Clark that his roomate wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and figured out himself he MIGHT Superman, Jimmy respected Clark enough to let HIM decide when he's gonna reveal that secret, makes her look entitled to know a deep secret of who's just a coworker at the the very least and a new friend at best.
Vid on John Walker being the only sane person in Falcon and the Winter Soldier 🙏🏽
I'm watching these 3 videos made my day lol
Lois seems to have a cute personality, but her design is disgusting. Changing an elegant, beautiful, long haired, well dressed woman into a tomboy is disgusting.
Honestly, between Lois, Amber, and Rogue... the only one I liked was Lois. She at times said/did questionable things, but she grew and adapted into a likable character.
Amber...Im sorry...I find nothing even remotely likable about her (the show one that is, comic Amber is likable). She is the literal definition of "the universe revolves around me and only me."
I actually love Rogue as a character...except in X-Men '97. What she did to Gambit was (in my opinion) absolutely unforgivable. Plus later on she mentions a couple of times about how much she loved him. If she "loved" him, why did she leave him for someone who is old enough to be her grandfather (personally I don't think there is actually any legitimate reason for that)?
6:42 these videos were goated thanks for reminding me😂
I don't get the anger at not having the secret identity revealed. "GRRR HOW DARE YOU TRY TO KEEP ME AWAY FROM DANGER!"
I hate and I mean HATE Rogue in every single way
I know you were just using Foggy from Daredevil as a bit, but he actually has a good reason to be pissed at Matthew in this scene.
1. Foggy and Matt are lawyers and partners. Foggy believed at the time that the law was the right way to stop a villain and that vigilantism is wrong.
2: Matt didn’t just lie about the secret identity, he also has been lying about his abilities since they met in college before he put on the mask. Every time Foggy lied, Matt knew and pretended to not know. Every time Matt walked around with the cane, he could have moved better than Foggy could. Matt lied not only about the vigilantism, but also important aspects of his normal life that could have helped in their personal lives and their law pursuits more if they were both on the same page.
3: Matt almost died the night that Foggy found out. Foggy helped nurse him back to health despite the lies.
4: Because Matt was off doing hero work, often times Foggy was forced to handle the lawyer things by himself despite the fact that they’re partners. There have been trials and jobs that he was kinda screwed over because of it.
Matt genuinely treated Foggy badly, especially in the 1st and 3rd seasons of the show. It was still funny to see him in the video though.
They did gambit bogus
It’s so tiring watching people GLAZEE Lois because she isn’t unique or interesting to me. Every time i see her, her personality and style is the Luz from owl house, and half the time she’s upset with someone.. idk she’s def not as bad as Rouge but she isn’t great.
Nah nah No Lois Slandering allowed. She's actually pretty great, and justified and understandable.
Bro mention Sydney from Legion series too
Here’s the thing about the relationship with rogue and magneto. The fans well told in advance that they were going to do this and they hated it and were telling the writers not to go down that path and they did it anyway. Thankfully he’s since been fired from the show altogether.
If you want to know who was responsible for that story it was beau de mayo and he’s a straight up creep in real life.
Just when you think you're out they pull you back in
Crazy part is joker treats punch line better then he did Harley he straight up didn’t like her
Honestly, Lois wasn’t that bad. She definitely gets better next season and is much better than Amber
she was great in the first seaon
As for Lois Lane it was kind of the whole point that she shouldn’t have been that upset. She is the most flawed character in the show besides the villains. She is a stubborn insecure mess of a human being and often times that can make her relatable to some people. Their whole argument on the rooftop is actually one of the better versions of the “you lied to me” trope. It was built up before that Lois hates being lied too and having secrets kept from her due to past experiences with her father. Without her mother around anymore and her father being mostly absent besides some camping trips she really didn’t have anyone to fully help her understand how to deal with certain things in her life. She had so much built up anger over her father that she projects it onto Clark, someone she thought she could finally trust. You can’t really compare her to Amber because in Ambers case the show made her out to be the one in the right when in actuality she was extremely manipulative while Lois on the other hand is called out on a lot of her flaws and the show never makes her appear to be this perfect marry sue and instead allows her to grow from her flaws and learn from her mistakes so that she can be better for Clark. Season 2 goes a bit more into her character showing her childhood and even more into her own mental state and it really fleshes her out and honestly she’s now my favorite character in the show. I also highly recommend watching season 2 since it was nothing short of incredible.
Bruh.. I've never seen that animated Superman show you spoke on, but, WHY they got Lois looking like Goh from Pokemon Journeys 😂😂😂
We never see female heroes feel bad for hrlping people by their male love interests.
Ironic that in the comics Rogue and Deadpool are one of the few characters who have a healthy relationship that dosen’t include cheating and drama.
Rogue has a healthy relationship in the comics with no cheating or drama... what comics have you been reading???? All Rogue did thought out the 90s was lead Gambit on, only to push him away, running away from him, treating him like a doormat, spending more time with Joseph (a clone of Mag and doing so right in front of Gambit), leaving him to freeze to death in Antarctica because of his past while ignoring others and her own, getting her control of her powers to just leave him to sleep with Mag because she wanted to "explore" (her words)… that's not a healthy relationship whatsoever...
I’m saying that in the run of Uncanny Avengers( the 2017 and 2024 specifically) Rogue and Deadpool had a brief relationship that dosen’t include cheating or some kind of drama.
My goat wrmz does not miss 🙏😭
Can we get a male version of worst love interest?
you added a photo of foggy in the you lied to me trope and I wanted some justice for him because he has a valid reason for being mad. Him and matt run a legal practice together and matt is contantly flaky and giving foggy no justicifcation for where he is or why hes putting so much pressure on foggy. He constantly gets the two of them and their business in hot water and then explains nothing to foggy whos left to cover his ass.
Gambit is My favorite character and rogue is one of my favorites too, the actions that she did were kinda stupid but clearly this is all set up for season 2, gambit is obviously coming back through apocalypse and I believe this will come with a fantastic story between gambit and rogue.
Where hopefully Gambit gets some self-respect, walks away from Rogue and gets together with someone else since she needs to pay the consequences of her actions and not be forgiven and rewarded. You have to draw the line somewhere and say enough is enough and stay broken up and far away from each other.
Lois looks like Casca so she's automatically a top tier love interest
I was shocked that Rogue was based off of Grace Jones that has got to be the coolest thing.
6:54 crazy how I sticked up my middle finger at the same time, it was instinctual since I never watched the show
Did she (Rogue) not have a fling with Magneto in the comics either ? Also Lois isn't bad in my adventures with Superman 😅🤷♂️😂😂😂good video though !
Edit: Rogues case sucks despite the nod to the comics (bad way to showcase accuracy)
uh my apologies for the last comment.
honestly paul and mary jane gotta be the one i hate the most tbh
I love TH-cam algorithm. New sub here
Idk, for rogue at the very least she did shut down Gambit on the original X-men series for a long time.