Given her background, Michael would probably be aware of the similarities between Trill joining and the Vulcan mind meld. Adira needed to open up to it in order to fully connect with Tal.
I have a trauma disorder that caused dissociative amnesia. This scene reminded me of when I started getting most of my childhood memories back due to therapy. Good and Bad.
Damn it, each episode of this season made cry ! And I cried on only 3 movies in my life The level of acting in this season is just stunning and story keeps being amazing ! Please Netflix keep this tv show for at least 10 seasons just like the other Star Trek show !
According to Ketwolski it will transfer to CBS All Access for Season 4 and all of the other Treks will go there also. I hope not. I only joined Prime to get Picard and now I will have to get All Access to get Star Trek.
@@oldmanriver1955 CBS All Access will be rebranded as Paramount+ right next year. They plan to compete more with netflix, disney+, prime, peacock and hbo max. But most of that streaming service except for netflix are still not available worldwide. So i hope outside of US, they still on netflix.
I think that the two friends were on one of the last historical starships. Perhaps the USS ENTERPRISE E - Preserved as a historical Starfleet Museum ship - but quickly brought into full operating conditions as part of the re-establishment of the Federation and Starfleet, a hundred years ago. The only way to find HQ is for Adira to link with the Trill Symbiont and Burnham and the Discovery crew know that.
I love the series no matter what. Been watching Star Trek ever since I was 4. Yeah some episodes in the franchise are not my cup of tea but I like Discovery. I wish it had happened years ago but like the current Dr. Who, people were not ready for change. Better late than never I guess.
Watched two season of ST Discovery. Just could couldn't stay with it. The writing was terrible. Unfortunately for Jody Whitaker the writing was just awful.
I'm still hoping that the Dax symbiont survive both the centuries and the Burn. So both Terry Farrell and Nicole de Boer would make a guess appearance in Star Trek Discovery.
Totally there should be a sign by the ponds: "NO DIVING. NO FISHING. NO PEEING IN THE PONDS. NO FARTING IN THE PONDS. YOU MUST TAKE A SHOWER AND BATHE THOROUGHLY BEFORE ENTERING THE PONDS. THE SQUIDS DON'T WANT YOUR UNWASHED ASS IN THEIR HAPPY HOMES. "
Yeah I didn't like that either. But I'm going to mentally explain it away like I do a lot of stuff. Definitely didn't like how she disappears in the waters...and the people know exactly what to do, especially after establishing that they didn't know what was even happening..especially after even before having said they didn't know what was going to happen because the joining of a human has never been done
@@agonleed3841 I just explained it away as she was so deep underwater that Burnham couldn't find her. So the only way to bring her back was for Burnham to join her in the mental journey. It could be seen as a psychic hallucination (nothing really contradicts that interpretation), so I just went with it. It's a good story if you find the right headcanon to explain away irrelevant logistical details.
Adira and Gray can't be in a relationship together, by the rules of their society, each life of a symbont should be unique, you have to left your wife/husbund and sons, if not they name you "rejoined" and your symbiont can't join with a next hoster anyone and it will die
Ok so Star Trek: Discovery now has symbiots that are called "symbionts" and staff weapons in this episode. Has Stargate Sued Them Yet, or is the lawsuit for copyright infringement in progress, or pending? They must have hired old writers of Stargate, because the storylines are the same too. Well Stargate was a lot more popular, because it really is way better, but I will watch this cheaper ripoff of Stargate, because Stargate was just that good!
@@jasminlangdon5778 Oh, I didn't know about that. Thanks, I feel a little better about "Discovery" now. I watched some DS9 but I missed those episodes/season.
The above doesn't reach the final connection between Adira and the symbiont's previous hosts- it just stops when Burham and Adira see the musical instrument. Not very satisfying, is it?
This show is more mysticism and fantasy than it is science-based fiction. The only Trek it resembles is TOS Trek, which skewed heavily toward fantastical elements (like a brainless Spock walking around).
I mean...its all mystical..seeing as how it's all science fiction..imagined things. I personally dont like how she disappears into the waters...but hey, TNG there was some living goo that killed tasha yar. I JUST restarted Voyager and they learned that a nebula was actually a living thing they had to help fix. Things dont behave as we humans are used to. And with that the ONLY problem from this show comes the fact that the guy said he had no idea what was going to happen, and when she disappears he had no idea what did happen, but IMMEDIATELY they say she needs to establish a mental link . Where did that come from? If it never happened before and you dont know what could happen, how does mental link be the FIRST thing you think of? But..thenagain, many others have found solutions IMMEDIATELY after IMMEDIATELY knowing what the shit was happeninf,
And NO surprise, Burnham HAS to be the one to come up with the correct answer. She is EVERYTHING wrong with Wesley's character in season one of TNG with NONE of his positive character traits.
She is the main character in this show. Welsely wasn't. Picard was and he was like a God in TNG. Mu favorite series as that's the one I started watching while it was still on aire and marathon every year. 35yrs d to date. Burnham is going to be on our face just like Picard was She will be saved by crew. She will kick ass when needed. She will be smarter when needed or stupid dumb just so she can learn a lesson, only to become ingeniously smart again to solve said problem ...all because she is the main character. If you loved TNG then you should have ZERO problems with Burnham
@@GaryGyarados so you're saying first and second season had nothing about tilly or the gay doc being smart what with spore jumps and shit? And no matter the evil captain, before all that, he made shit happen. Not Burnham. Point is she's the main focus. Picard was main focus. So didn't matte the actual few times others solved. a problem it was mostly HIS orders that led to it. Of course others did it. But who's getting shine? Capt picard for being such a great Capt who orders a great crew. That's just understanding. From there you just got to sit he very VERY basic action if understanding the dynamics. Picard was on a ship and the whole show was episodic. Each episode meant to teach a lesson. Made in a time where we honestly needed fthoselessons cause of the era we were in. Discovery is made in a time where traveling to Japan to learn about their culture isn't as exciting because we..WE..tou and I...have that information ready. Or have met enough in our own real life. Or can easily get on this site and look up anything. As well as a dating site and talk to any of them..INSTANTLY. So exploring strange new world isn't going to resonate with us well..time to explore more things. Ourselves. Individuals. People. Working together. Unity. Community. Species relations. Especially with those you wirl closer with. So we still have a main character that will need to be worth being the main character. Focus will be on them. Either they will solve the problem or create situations which problems get solved. That's how main characters work.
@@agonleed3841 Picard was a protagonist with faults so obvious he freely admitted them (such as his aversion to children bordering on dislike.) Burnham is something completely different. She is a Mary Sue. Boring, not believable, not Star Trek.
@@mongoslade5248 if you're only into seeing what YOU are into, then you're not only missing the point I already mentioned, you're pretty much ignorant to the entire show. Lots of people aren't into women, you want them to stop showing any of them?
Tentacles wriggle into everything these days, I bet in just a couple years or less we'll see a full fledged tentai scene in Star Trek, but Star Wars will beat them to it...
And of course only Mikey Spock can solve it. Only she can find the answers. Only she can save the day. One of the many, many reasons why this show is not trek.
The circumstance for Michael being there was that she had gone through something similar and would be the best for support as opposed to the medical officer.
@@connormachin151 that’s just it. She’s always the one who can fix it. No matter what the situation. And I’m sure she’ll be the one who saves the federation too. She’s like Mary Sue from krypton.
Adira is just acting like a scared little girl. She can't face the past because it's too painful for her. She's a representation of what weak-willed boys and girls go through.
They should rename this show Star Feelings. I mean ffs do they need to have a therapy session every five minutes and how many times do they need to say that they're 'together'?! Terrible acting, predictable, boring dialogue and so much CGI with everything glowing - how can anyone take this seriously? I just hope Ron Moore or someone else with talent produces a real Star Trek show and we can put this shit behind us. Given the ratings and audience reviews, I think most would agree. ps. Georgiou rolling her eyes or making a sarcastic comment when these cretins make a speech is the only thing that makes it bearable
Ah i think u shud stay away in watching this just stick to d classic star trek.. This is new star trek. Showrunners trying to develop new storyline.so f u continue watching dis ul just be dissapointed.this will not satisfy u believe me. Wait for axanar..i think its close to finish.. it is made by trek fans n also funded.
Sorry but this show is just too much for me. I watch it but I take it very lightly. Its more a emotional sci fi drama like ST. Too much crying, relationships, everyones offendet, everybodys feelings are hurt, everyone EXCEPT PHILIPA is mr & mrs super softie 🤦♂️ This is ST show for millenials cus they can find themselves in it but not for us older fans. Sorry but i just cant find ST in it.
Idk what your problem is. I'm 35. Started watching TNG in like 92. Have been a fan ever since. I remember all the way through voyager and enterprise that I wanted more personal stories. People didn't speak normally. What with explaining what they meant a lot. Or things got shrugged off in the very next episode. Having no impact. While I enjoyed the show, I still wanted more impact from the choices...lime real life does. Having joined marines directly out of highschool..I've seen ALL , in way of mannerisms, that star trek has ever shown even up to now..which is FAR more in tune with in what I actually believe the older shows wanted to do, but main stream audiences weren't ready for. There will be conflict even between ranks. I know. I was almost twice and was actually demoted once. There will be disobedience in the name of doing the right thing. Had I and a few others unfollowed our mstsgt on a patrol..his orders that is, we'd all be fucking dead. Instead we, being the most experienced in that route at the time, ordered others to follow us. And here I am typing this, having survived what was an ambush, but we got the upper hand. There will. Be crying and emotions as people get fucked up after losing members. I had to stop my patrol to calm down another marine who lost his partner. They'd been there at least 4months before I was there. In my 3ed month walking the perimeter I heard a noise and investigated. And this marine was broken down. Tear in my eyes now as I remember not knowing what to do and trying to make sure he didn't reach a point of suicide. Which another marine I did survived with, ended up doing. A bullshit Facebook message from his mother noted me and a few others of that. Anf I'm still angry with him. What we saw in TNG were people in a position it's how civilians look at enlisted people. What we see in Discovery are the actual people beyond their positions. It's what you see working close together every day. Living your life in the same vicinity but from different backgrounds yet having to work together and yet still in different positions. It's allccomplicated and full of emotions. Discovery is going great. It's like star trek grew up with me. Tng and forward. With its childish storytelling. Problem, solution, the end. Next book. All of 5 pages with big words to easily get to the end. DS9 played with some serious stuff, and I hated it when I was younger. But I rewatched it recently and I can appreciate it.even though I still hold some nostalgic hate lol. Discovery is like a young adult book. All the fun of the kids stories but on chapters where you get more details and learn more about the people..and it's all connected. Or adult novel..as it has all of that, plus the ideas that we adults understand should be fleshed out and it touches on that.
I'm in agreement. There is melodrama in some of the scenes, and I'm seeing the crew crying most of the time, and getting self-indulgently sentimental.Discovery tries hard to be emotional and profound -- but is overly melodramatic compare to even old Trek. Its not natural speech and behaviour. Too many speeches instead of pep talks
@@dark_lord_0169 bro what do you think it does to an intelligent mind when you go through all of this shit this crew went through? I always asked how it could happen that they lost people and all and it didnt had any impact on them in voyager, ds9 and the others. I like discovery because it shows that you can overcome all bullshit in life and move on, even getting stronger because of what you go through. For me discovery is a story of hope for all who are a bit lost.
@@annikawollert8078 They are supposed to be the finest of the Federation. Gone through years in the Academy to prepare them for what is out there. More years and plenty of experience to even get to where they are now, on the bridge of a federation starship. But that crew is a bunch of whining pussies you could hire for taxi service between Earth and Mars, provided they get emotional support during the journey and the weekends off to visit their parents.They are all emotional unfit for service anywhere. The only normal person is Georgiou, the rest belongs into safe spaces behind a desk somewhere, each with a shrink on standby to help them deal with their personal issues. It's utterly ridiculous and painful to watch. Without the ability to skip entire scenes, it wouldn't be watchable at all. It's ST for teenagers working through puberty, and even than it's too much of utterly unbelievable emotional soap.
Was that the actress that was transgender? The Trill have always been pan gender in Star Trek since introduction. Crusher had the hots for a male Trill that became female. Dax, old man, was now a hot chick (and I mean hot) on DS9 to later become a Mary Ann sweet little girl next-door. I pretty well ignore the oddities of actor lives. Takei was gay but Sulu wasn't necessarily. Half the men in drama are probably gay or bi. A later found it funny that Rock Hudson was gay and Tony Randall was as straight as you could get, opposite of their portrayals in Doris Day flicks.
The music to this scene is absolutely beautiful
Given her background, Michael would probably be aware of the similarities between Trill joining and the Vulcan mind meld. Adira needed to open up to it in order to fully connect with Tal.
Perhaps, has anyone ever heard of a Trill Vulcan hybrid?
This show had such cool ways of visualizing stuff.
Now that Adira has regained her memories and established her connection w/the symbiont's past hosts, can she be called Adira Tal now?
Well she introduced herself that way when giving the most recent of her many names.
They will just call her adira unless being formal
Adira Heda
That was the last name she spoke.
I have a trauma disorder that caused dissociative amnesia. This scene reminded me of when I started getting most of my childhood memories back due to therapy. Good and Bad.
My wife died in April. This episode hit me. Hard.
My condolences and so sorry for your loss. 🖖🏻
🥺
I am so very sorry.
I was hoping the Trill spots will stay on her face after they were shown as part of the connection.
In DS9 episode 'Invasive Procedures' we see a unjoined Trill without spots.
The scene where she finally meets her past lives had mad Avatar vibes
And Michael is just a grumpier Iroh.
Only because these writers plagerise like rabbits 🐇
@@HHh-qe2ch Actually Trill hosts meeting their past selves has been a part of Star Trek since DS9. Pre-dated Avatar.
Damn it, each episode of this season made cry ! And I cried on only 3 movies in my life
The level of acting in this season is just stunning and story keeps being amazing !
Please Netflix keep this tv show for at least 10 seasons just like the other Star Trek show !
Netflix has nothing to do with it. This is a CBS show.
@@drmayeda1930 I'm not sure if Netflix has influence of the show, but it's a Netflix Original outside the US. (Still, made by CBS)
According to Ketwolski it will transfer to CBS All Access for Season 4 and all of the other Treks will go there also. I hope not. I only joined Prime to get Picard and now I will have to get All Access to get Star Trek.
@@oldmanriver1955 CBS All Access will be rebranded as Paramount+ right next year. They plan to compete more with netflix, disney+, prime, peacock and hbo max. But most of that streaming service except for netflix are still not available worldwide. So i hope outside of US, they still on netflix.
There isn't going to be a Season 4, Season 3 is the end of that trash like season one pretty much ended Picard for good.
While sometimes sense of canon can seem jarring, I can appreciate the brand Discovery has created
I think that the two friends were on one of the last historical starships. Perhaps the USS ENTERPRISE E - Preserved as a historical Starfleet Museum ship - but quickly brought into full operating conditions as part of the re-establishment of the Federation and Starfleet, a hundred years ago. The only way to find HQ is for Adira to link with the Trill Symbiont and Burnham and the Discovery crew know that.
I love the series no matter what. Been watching Star Trek ever since I was 4. Yeah some episodes in the franchise are not my cup of tea but I like Discovery. I wish it had happened years ago but like the current Dr. Who, people were not ready for change. Better late than never I guess.
I was happy for a Female Doctor. Jodies first season was sort of meh though. The second season was better, not great, but tonnes better.
This TV shows balls
Watched two season of ST Discovery. Just could couldn't stay with it. The writing was terrible.
Unfortunately for Jody Whitaker the writing was just awful.
I love this part
Wow it's amazing the imagination 🥰🥰🥰
I loved this scene it was a beautiful scene
In star trek discovery , when Adira is so sad 😭 about her boyfriend who had dies , because it reminds me of the lion 🦁 king 👑 1994 .
I'm still hoping that the Dax symbiont survive both the centuries and the Burn. So both Terry Farrell and Nicole de Boer would make a guess appearance in Star Trek Discovery.
@HN not the symbiote. And this girls boyfriend is dead also..but sid you watch till the end of the episode?
Symbionts are long-lived, but Dax likely died of old age centuries ago. Dax was already old when it joined with Jadzia.
@@gedias1 How old can the symbionts live?
@@walterdayrit675 I think the lifespan is about 500 years.
@@walterdayrit675 a trill symbiont can live up to 550 years
Marvel-We did it fist!
They sure did it fist!
Totally there should be a sign by the ponds: "NO DIVING. NO FISHING. NO PEEING IN THE PONDS. NO FARTING IN THE PONDS. YOU MUST TAKE A SHOWER AND BATHE THOROUGHLY BEFORE ENTERING THE PONDS. THE SQUIDS DON'T WANT YOUR UNWASHED ASS IN THEIR HAPPY HOMES. "
So they gather information...interface thing...
But how can one be sure they don't take over the mind or allow someone else control ?
Wow, all the hate in the comments. Y'all need to get out more.
This was a fabulous episode, I wish we'd get even more Trill-focused stories!
This is LITERALLY MAGIC! That was not a psychic hallucination. Both of them teleported to another dimension using MAGIC!
Yeah I didn't like that either. But I'm going to mentally explain it away like I do a lot of stuff.
Definitely didn't like how she disappears in the waters...and the people know exactly what to do, especially after establishing that they didn't know what was even happening..especially after even before having said they didn't know what was going to happen because the joining of a human has never been done
@@agonleed3841 I just explained it away as she was so deep underwater that Burnham couldn't find her. So the only way to bring her back was for Burnham to join her in the mental journey. It could be seen as a psychic hallucination (nothing really contradicts that interpretation), so I just went with it. It's a good story if you find the right headcanon to explain away irrelevant logistical details.
This scene could've happened without Mikey B and would've been just fine if not more impactful.
A shame they never did something like this on DS9, but that is Berman and Braga for you. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
See CBS that feels LIKE trek keep it up the ship IS pulling out of the crash dive
Ummmm it pulled out back in season 2.
Adira and Gray can't be in a relationship together, by the rules of their society, each life of a symbont should be unique, you have to left your wife/husbund and sons, if not they name you "rejoined" and your symbiont can't join with a next hoster anyone and it will die
I think that's if you form a relationship with a previous host's family, not maintain relationships of the current host's life before joining
Gender confusion trill issues.
He looks like Ralph Macchio.
Ok so Star Trek: Discovery now has symbiots that are called "symbionts" and staff weapons in this episode. Has Stargate Sued Them Yet, or is the lawsuit for copyright infringement in progress, or pending? They must have hired old writers of Stargate, because the storylines are the same too. Well Stargate was a lot more popular, because it really is way better, but I will watch this cheaper ripoff of Stargate, because Stargate was just that good!
Star Trek DS9 had symbionts before stargate aired…
@@jasminlangdon5778 Oh, I didn't know about that. Thanks, I feel a little better about "Discovery" now. I watched some DS9 but I missed those episodes/season.
The above doesn't reach the final connection between Adira and the symbiont's previous hosts- it just stops when Burham and Adira see the musical instrument. Not very satisfying, is it?
The actress might actually be older but her character is just a kid and is very scared.
This show is more mysticism and fantasy than it is science-based fiction. The only Trek it resembles is TOS Trek, which skewed heavily toward fantastical elements (like a brainless Spock walking around).
Perhaps, but hey...for what it is...the show seems to be getting better.
I mean...its all mystical..seeing as how it's all science fiction..imagined things.
I personally dont like how she disappears into the waters...but hey, TNG there was some living goo that killed tasha yar. I JUST restarted Voyager and they learned that a nebula was actually a living thing they had to help fix.
Things dont behave as we humans are used to.
And with that the ONLY problem from this show comes the fact that the guy said he had no idea what was going to happen, and when she disappears he had no idea what did happen, but IMMEDIATELY they say she needs to establish a mental link .
Where did that come from? If it never happened before and you dont know what could happen, how does mental link be the FIRST thing you think of?
But..thenagain, many others have found solutions IMMEDIATELY after IMMEDIATELY knowing what the shit was happeninf,
space jesus at is again ... and walking on water :D
Well, I can see why some people find her attractive.
And NO surprise, Burnham HAS to be the one to come up with the correct answer. She is EVERYTHING wrong with Wesley's character in season one of TNG with NONE of his positive character traits.
She is the main character in this show. Welsely wasn't. Picard was and he was like a God in TNG. Mu favorite series as that's the one I started watching while it was still on aire and marathon every year. 35yrs d to date.
Burnham is going to be on our face just like Picard was
She will be saved by crew. She will kick ass when needed. She will be smarter when needed or stupid dumb just so she can learn a lesson, only to become ingeniously smart again to solve said problem ...all because she is the main character.
If you loved TNG then you should have ZERO problems with Burnham
@@agonleed3841 No Picard was not. There are multiple times when other characters solve the problems in the episodes.
@@GaryGyarados so you're saying first and second season had nothing about tilly or the gay doc being smart what with spore jumps and shit? And no matter the evil captain, before all that, he made shit happen. Not Burnham.
Point is she's the main focus. Picard was main focus. So didn't matte the actual few times others solved. a problem it was mostly HIS orders that led to it.
Of course others did it. But who's getting shine?
Capt picard for being such a great Capt who orders a great crew.
That's just understanding.
From there you just got to sit he very VERY basic action if understanding the dynamics.
Picard was on a ship and the whole show was episodic. Each episode meant to teach a lesson. Made in a time where we honestly needed fthoselessons cause of the era we were in.
Discovery is made in a time where traveling to Japan to learn about their culture isn't as exciting because we..WE..tou and I...have that information ready. Or have met enough in our own real life. Or can easily get on this site and look up anything. As well as a dating site and talk to any of them..INSTANTLY.
So exploring strange new world isn't going to resonate with us well..time to explore more things. Ourselves. Individuals. People. Working together. Unity. Community. Species relations. Especially with those you wirl closer with.
So we still have a main character that will need to be worth being the main character. Focus will be on them.
Either they will solve the problem or create situations which problems get solved. That's how main characters work.
@@GaryGyarados but honestly. You need to go back to TNG. Go rewatch that and see how great Picard is shown as
@@agonleed3841 Picard was a protagonist with faults so obvious he freely admitted them (such as his aversion to children bordering on dislike.) Burnham is something completely different. She is a Mary Sue. Boring, not believable, not Star Trek.
to B Honest, @ 2:18, I thought it was a man. Put some BASS n that voice. Or grow a "Stash".
That whooshing noise you just heard was show's message on gender identity flying over your head.
Ian (Gray's actor) is a man.
@@DJAJon889 If U say so. NOT n2 "Lady boys".
@@dmanc85 If U say so. NOT n2 "Lady boys".
@@mongoslade5248 if you're only into seeing what YOU are into, then you're not only missing the point I already mentioned, you're pretty much ignorant to the entire show.
Lots of people aren't into women, you want them to stop showing any of them?
Blocked
They did it better in _Stranger Things._
Tentacles wriggle into everything these days, I bet in just a couple years or less we'll see a full fledged tentai scene in Star Trek, but Star Wars will beat them to it...
And of course only Mikey Spock can solve it. Only she can find the answers. Only she can save the day. One of the many, many reasons why this show is not trek.
Of course. Only strong woman space jesus can fix literally everything.
@HN 🌊 whoopee doo
@HN 🌊 the circumstances of one's birth should not matter. Only what the content of their character. in politics. What they will do for you.
The circumstance for Michael being there was that she had gone through something similar and would be the best for support as opposed to the medical officer.
@@connormachin151 that’s just it. She’s always the one who can fix it. No matter what the situation. And I’m sure she’ll be the one who saves the federation too. She’s like Mary Sue from krypton.
wtf, i don't remember this Star Trek
Adira is just acting like a scared little girl. She can't face the past because it's too painful for her.
She's a representation of what weak-willed boys and girls go through.
They should rename this show Star Feelings. I mean ffs do they need to have a therapy session every five minutes and how many times do they need to say that they're 'together'?! Terrible acting, predictable, boring dialogue and so much CGI with everything glowing - how can anyone take this seriously? I just hope Ron Moore or someone else with talent produces a real Star Trek show and we can put this shit behind us. Given the ratings and audience reviews, I think most would agree.
ps. Georgiou rolling her eyes or making a sarcastic comment when these cretins make a speech is the only thing that makes it bearable
Wierdos
WHY DIDNT THEY JUST LET STAR TREK END WITH ENTERPRISE
What is this crap? It's not Star Trek, that's for damn sure.
This is incredibly similar to DS9 Episode Facets but you lot will call anything made after 2005 trash regardless of whether it actually is or not.
i think the times are different when original and tng star trek series debuted, thats why many people dont like the change of tone
Except it is, now more than ever before for Discovery
Ah i think u shud stay away in watching this just stick to d classic star trek.. This is new star trek. Showrunners trying to develop new storyline.so f u continue watching dis ul just be dissapointed.this will not satisfy u believe me. Wait for axanar..i think its close to finish.. it is made by trek fans n also funded.
@@miketan5353 Bingo!
Sorry but this show is just too much for me. I watch it but I take it very lightly. Its more a emotional sci fi drama like ST. Too much crying, relationships, everyones offendet, everybodys feelings are hurt, everyone EXCEPT PHILIPA is mr & mrs super softie 🤦♂️ This is ST show for millenials cus they can find themselves in it but not for us older fans. Sorry but i just cant find ST in it.
Idk what your problem is. I'm 35. Started watching TNG in like 92. Have been a fan ever since.
I remember all the way through voyager and enterprise that I wanted more personal stories. People didn't speak normally. What with explaining what they meant a lot. Or things got shrugged off in the very next episode. Having no impact.
While I enjoyed the show, I still wanted more impact from the choices...lime real life does.
Having joined marines directly out of highschool..I've seen ALL , in way of mannerisms, that star trek has ever shown even up to now..which is FAR more in tune with in what I actually believe the older shows wanted to do, but main stream audiences weren't ready for.
There will be conflict even between ranks. I know. I was almost twice and was actually demoted once.
There will be disobedience in the name of doing the right thing. Had I and a few others unfollowed our mstsgt on a patrol..his orders that is, we'd all be fucking dead. Instead we, being the most experienced in that route at the time, ordered others to follow us. And here I am typing this, having survived what was an ambush, but we got the upper hand.
There will. Be crying and emotions as people get fucked up after losing members. I had to stop my patrol to calm down another marine who lost his partner. They'd been there at least 4months before I was there. In my 3ed month walking the perimeter I heard a noise and investigated. And this marine was broken down. Tear in my eyes now as I remember not knowing what to do and trying to make sure he didn't reach a point of suicide. Which another marine I did survived with, ended up doing. A bullshit Facebook message from his mother noted me and a few others of that. Anf I'm still angry with him.
What we saw in TNG were people in a position it's how civilians look at enlisted people.
What we see in Discovery are the actual people beyond their positions. It's what you see working close together every day. Living your life in the same vicinity but from different backgrounds yet having to work together and yet still in different positions.
It's allccomplicated and full of emotions.
Discovery is going great.
It's like star trek grew up with me.
Tng and forward. With its childish storytelling.
Problem, solution, the end. Next book. All of 5 pages with big words to easily get to the end.
DS9 played with some serious stuff, and I hated it when I was younger. But I rewatched it recently and I can appreciate it.even though I still hold some nostalgic hate lol.
Discovery is like a young adult book. All the fun of the kids stories but on chapters where you get more details and learn more about the people..and it's all connected. Or adult novel..as it has all of that, plus the ideas that we adults understand should be fleshed out and it touches on that.
Yep, emotional trash. Unbelievable and painful to watch. But Season 3 is the end of this anyway.
I'm in agreement. There is melodrama in some of the scenes, and I'm seeing the crew crying most of the time, and getting self-indulgently sentimental.Discovery tries hard to be emotional and profound -- but is overly melodramatic compare to even old Trek. Its not natural speech and behaviour. Too many speeches instead of pep talks
@@dark_lord_0169 bro what do you think it does to an intelligent mind when you go through all of this shit this crew went through? I always asked how it could happen that they lost people and all and it didnt had any impact on them in voyager, ds9 and the others. I like discovery because it shows that you can overcome all bullshit in life and move on, even getting stronger because of what you go through. For me discovery is a story of hope for all who are a bit lost.
@@annikawollert8078 They are supposed to be the finest of the Federation. Gone through years in the Academy to prepare them for what is out there. More years and plenty of experience to even get to where they are now, on the bridge of a federation starship.
But that crew is a bunch of whining pussies you could hire for taxi service between Earth and Mars, provided they get emotional support during the journey and the weekends off to visit their parents.They are all emotional unfit for service anywhere. The only normal person is Georgiou, the rest belongs into safe spaces behind a desk somewhere, each with a shrink on standby to help them deal with their personal issues.
It's utterly ridiculous and painful to watch. Without the ability to skip entire scenes, it wouldn't be watchable at all. It's ST for teenagers working through puberty, and even than it's too much of utterly unbelievable emotional soap.
They just had to shoehorn in a trans storyline
Was that the actress that was transgender?
The Trill have always been pan gender in Star Trek since introduction. Crusher had the hots for a male Trill that became female.
Dax, old man, was now a hot chick (and I mean hot) on DS9 to later become a Mary Ann sweet little girl next-door.
I pretty well ignore the oddities of actor lives. Takei was gay but Sulu wasn't necessarily. Half the men in drama are probably gay or bi.
A later found it funny that Rock Hudson was gay and Tony Randall was as straight as you could get, opposite of their portrayals in Doris Day flicks.
gay enough? next
Gay
it's a good show, but it throws away the star trek idealistic and happiness
This is not only the worst Star Trek, but the worst show ever produced. If I was one of the writers, I would have kms already.
No but when a girl kissed a boy, it was disgusting. What's next? Pedophiles in the spore drive? BTW I loved the love story between stamets and Hugh
The music that accompanies this episode is beauty.