Fall of Liberty is the most 7th gen game ever
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- Turning Point: Fall of Liberty explores a bizarre alternate future where WW2 FPS games are the most popular style of video game in the mid 2000s.
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The fact the the garand’s iron sights are actually small gives this game an unlikely realistic niche over literally every other game
I think the Resistance and Liberation HL2 mod is another one, but that was one of the earlier examples of authenticity-driven mp shooter. Everyone realized that sights don't look like that when you're focused through them.
Brothers in arms???
@@shoopusdawhoopus dude that game was so fucking good... probably one of the FPSes I've played the most of, funny enough. if I remember correctly though the dev team just couldn't rly put out the rate of updates it needed (they probably had plenty of IRL stuff to deal with, not blaming them)... it's dead now, isn't it? please tell me its not dead, I love it so much :/
lol wgarrrtghorofl lolz
Eh, big... small... the important thing is to shove your eye so far down against the stock of the gun that you lose half your field of vision to the brick-like silhouette of the gun's frame. Receiver. Whatever you call the shooty bang bang part behind the barrel. And also the sight sticking up over it, which totally makes up for all the lost awareness, especially when moving down stairs or shooting at dudes in lower floors of a building across the street or something. 10/10 modern game design trope right there.
"thats good but i wish it was bad" sums up the game pretty well
mood
0:01 timestamp. Honestly, you don’t even need the timestamp
At least they also made Call Of Duty Finest Hour. That was awesome.
Not even. I prefer this game over Wolfenstein. It's so underrated.
I thought playing this game was a fever dream, can't believe it was actually real.
same here bro
anyone else only get it because it was one of the few T shooters and your parents didn't let you get anything rated M?
@@mpkp2011 I thought I was the only one whose parents did that☠️
mpkp2011 no i didnt have a weird helicopter mom
@@jjfav2231 I have both parents and it was mostly my dad, but he's a foreigner so what do you expect? Awesome parents regardless
While the game itself is bland, the lore to this game is pretty cool.
The weapons are basically modernized German WW2 guns and vehicles as apposed to the zany cyborgs and robots of other alt-history games like this.
Also, I do appreciate the attention to the little details: if you look up in the sky, the jets bombing New York are based off Horten’s Amerika bomber prototype. There escorted by modernized descendants of the me-262 jet fighter.
The tanks you see later are based off E-50 and E-100 super tanks, and a lot of uniforms, while fictional, look like something the Nazi would wear around the 1950s, if they survived.
Unfortunately with a lot of these bad bargain bin games is that there are some genuinely talented people who work on them. Probably some brilliant people working on the designs, art, and modeling whose work gets overlooked due to the game being not great
Honestly the art of the game and the lore is amazing, yeah the execution of the game as a whole isn't great but with a bigger budget and maybe some programmers more it could turn out a little gem.
On one hand, I get the appeal to more verossimile Sci fi. On the other hand, that doesn't get us senile Adolf shooting Ronald Reagan now, does it?
Its Actually Arado E.555 early design bomber. Posterchild of New York Bomber
The right way to do it is, take some WWII weapons, stick weird spiral bits of copper all over them, and put "Tesla" in front of the name. Like Tesla SMG, Tesla Grenade Launcher and Tesla Sack Of Doorknobs, to name some popular examples.
That's how you do real alternate history fiction!
I bought this game at launch on 360, and pretty much the whole of the first two weeks, I was the only person in the entire world logged into the multiplayer!
But the game is hilariously bad, like you can't do headshots on enemies if they're crouching Etc.
Did you try shooting at where their head would be if they were standing up?
Did you gamers in the UK get a metal box release of Turning Point too? Codemasters had 1 for both Turning Point and Clive Barkers Jericho on Xbox 360.
Did you get Legendary at launch on Xbox 360?
I also had the unfortunate honor of playing this game when it was distributed in my country, for the PS3 in my case. I saw the title, though the premise was great and bought it. One of my worst mistakes. This is one of these shooters who you end up leaving without completing because neither the story is well written and you want to see the ending or you like the gameplay. It seems like a very rushed up game. The weird thing is that the developer, Spark Unlimited, made its debut just four years before with "Call of Duty: The finest hour". How the hell do you go from "there" to "here"?
@@alberum8442 I remember playing the shit out of the demo, and thinking the premise was interesting too. Never got it though.
Oh... It's Larry... Cool! Hi Larry!
I remember buying this at Gamestop and the dude working the counter stopped me.
"Are you sure you want this?"
"Yeah."
"Well, it's pretty bad."
I do miss getting that "you know this game is shit right?" Heads up for employees in physical stores, it has to really be rough
I even got the collectors tin
Lmfao
Yeah I remember getting that too
I got that remark from when I purchased Rogue Warrior. The game was crap but hot damn was it fun for some reason (the random swearing from Mickey Rourke was entertaining as well as the instakills too).
TBH All the environmental kills and that thing with the pipe spraying when you shoot it are relatively impressive
Modern games don’t even waste the time making all of that
The Unreal Engine was really something during this time. Even if it's graphics weren't always the most polished, it still had some really cool particle effects.
The pipe thing is very similar to when you shoot the fish tank in Splinter Cell. Wish more modern games would still take small details like these into account.
woah game good now
most games try to be good were this games added pointless stuff and just left the story as shit as they can
@@Muddy.Teabagger all game stories are bad
The few and very rare exceptions like Hypnospace Outlaw and Pentiment aren’t ever even the ones people talk about. Who cares about a game’s story
3:40
I can't get over how it's literally just tinting the screen fucking red. That's literally all it does.
It highlights enemies, there are just no enemies on screen
@@VineFynn its litteraly wallhacks
Rainbow six new vegas was released in 2006 and it has way better effects
@@mangopie7602 new vegas...I wish. It's just Las Vegas
@@SuperDavi5 Heyy you caught my typo
I'm really fan of the T-Posing at the end of the ladder animation at 0:24
That's how you know it's a good game
Still more historically accurate than COD: Vanguard.
But not as polished or enjoyable as Legendary.
It's sad that this isn't even an ironic statement.
@@NexusKin but easier to beat than Shellshock 2 bosses on the hardest difficulty. I bought and played crappy games back in the day.
@@adamthompson626 Oh, you mean those huge zombies with massive duel machetes and a hooded gas mask that looked like Resident Evil rejects.
Who the fuck asks for Activision military historical accuracy.
this is my favorite series on youtube: oboe plays a million different singleplayer fps campaigns
I remember this game. If you run ahead of an NPC that was supposed to die in a specific location, you'd just see them keel over for no apparent reason because the developers didn't expect the player to see it.
Ever played 'Freedom Fighters'?
One part I liked was the dynamic levels that were sometimes available, so you could drop round the back of one level and end up in another level and re-emerge in the first level with some difficulty removed (e.g. there would not be an attack helicopter if you went to another level to destroy the helicopter pad) and get round an impassable barrier.
Something I wish more games did.
That game was one of my favorites as a preteen. I wish more devs would try to make sandbox style shooters like that. Feeling like what I did was actually changing the course of a battle made the win that much more satisfying. The squad mechanics were really fun at the time too, if a bit janky.
I'm still waiting for a sequel or reboot of Freedom Fighters.
I enjoyed playing it again on Steam .
@@mitchsteen9451 While I only discovered it on it's 2020 steam release it is definitely fun. Mechanically it must be possible to construct more a more sandbox style shooter as there are so many sandbox RPGs (some of which having decent shooting like Far Cry and Fallout: New Vegas).
@@Gruntvc Definitely would enjoy, do you think a sequel should be in a new city? (e.g. driving the Soviets out of San Francisco, Washington D.C., Los Angeles etc.).
@Ed Space., I could see any of those US locations being used for a sequel.
Maybe we take the fight to the Soviets? You know the whole, "their land, their blood!" Thing.
You missed the quite brutal environmental kill when you literally throw a Nazi into the furnace
But he was trying to burn the Declaration Of Independence, so he deserved it.
@@NexusKin bro, he was a Nazi. They deserve it. All of 'em.
Yeah, (especially in this universe) it should be a Brit burning it. In this universe, that document cost the world its liberty.
@@KopperNeomanPretty sure the nation and its government did that, not the initial piece of paper.
Turning Point had an interesting premise, but was executed badly. Wolfenstein The New Order actually delivered on this alternate WW2 idea though.
The devs also made Legendary and I think that game was better. Not amazing, but decent for the budget it had.
Hearing that they made Legendary makes this video make a lot more sense
Wow, if Legendary was "better", I don't want to know what's worse, lol.
I really wish alternate history world War games were more common, it seems like it's always "authentic"
@@krisblaise8580 , we get plenty of alternate history WW games nowadays. Most of Vanguard, BF1 and BF5 are so much made-up nonsense that it may as well be considered alternate history, just a really bad one at that.
@@ikarusika2143 Yeah that wasn't what I meant. Vanguard did actually market itself as alt history, but I guess that wasn't clear enough to most people given it still got people outraged
I honestly thought that people had forgotten about this one, I remember all the ragequit playthroughs of it when it could still be found at gamestop for $10
The only reason why this game is hard is because it has one of the worst checkpoint systems I've ever experienced. I'm not exaggerating when I say that there are literally only like three or four checkpoints in an entire level, and they're placed super far apart from each other. If you die, you get to play those marathon sections over and over until you somehow pass them.
Still a better single player campaign than Battlefield 2042.
But not as good as Call Of Duty Finest Hour or Legendary.
@@NexusKin Better than cod vanguard
battlefield 2042 doesn't have a campaign, unless you're joking
Still a better game than 2042 😅
@@NexusKin fun fact: spark ent. Made this game and cod finest hour
I've played every single game you've covered in the last month as a kid, and I loved them lol. They were all terrible bargain bin games that I had to much fun with, between big releases. Kinda warms my heart to see someone playing & documenting these 10+ years later.
Same story for me, this was one of the first pegi 16 games i got for the ps3, and it holds a special place in my heart since my mom bought it for me as a surprise
Oboe going from "this game is r-worded" to "this game is AWESOME" pretty much sums up 16 year old me's experience with this. Legendary game and if you don't agree, well you're just a got damn Lemon Party agent
The Game Legendary was a lot like that too
@@hgill257 Same developer and an even bigger disappointment.
r-worded?
Cringe. Grow up and just say the word or don't highlight it at all.
@@abdullahahmad4239 I tried posting a message with the actual word in it and TH-cam deleted it. I think that's why they're referring to it as "the r word".
The way it changes to 3rd person whenever you interact with something is already so awful, and I'm only 50 seconds in.
That one game you saw at Blockbuster in 2009
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And they always had a lot of copies of it too lol.
@@Harvester88 like 50
2:43 oh how I wish functional MG42s were common enough for every American to own 5 of them
I only need one. Then I could take on an army.
@@NexusKin You're technically right.
Not all of them, but just enough to count as 'taking on' an army.
Funfact the "Vampir" scope was based off a real thing the nazis were working on which was basically a rudamentary night/thermal vison (cant remember which exactly) that shot a bunch of infrared light out the top lamp and the scope would be able to see the highlighted enviroment
0:39 I can answer that, actually. German paratroopers were hilariously bad, and SOP for all paratroop units even today is to discard your parachute after the drop. It’s extra weight you don’t need, and paratroopers are already carrying upwards of 100 pounds of gear.
>Lemon Party
Don't Google that, folks
Elaborate
Oboshoesgames constantly swaps on whether a game is good or not based on small things, can't destroy a potted plant? Bad game, can kill someone with a TV? Good game
Shoot a pipe and water leaks out? Game of the year
Holy shit, I've been looking for this game for years. I remember seeing it on Xbox live when checking out game demos and stuff, and while this one didn't have a demo, the screenshots and premise looked neat. After that I just forgot about it, except for the few times it popped back into memory, but I couldn't remember what it was. I asked so many people about it irl and online, but never got the answer so I was convinced I had just made it up, since memory tends to mush different ideas together. Weird seeing it more than a decade later and finding out it was actually real.
"Have you ever played wolfenstein and said 'that's pretty good I wish it was bad though?'"
Isn't that what new colossus and youngblood were for?
what's wrong with the new colossus? I know youngblood is dog water but the other?
@@retro9964 While the story is subjective of course, in terms of gameplay the feedback for damage is really bad so you can die without realizing you were low on health in less than 10 seconds, and the difficulty is just wonky all over the place. Also the whole submarine hub gimmick is annoying to get around. Plus the final boss is just two random robots instead of a capstone to the story like in the first one.
@@retro9964 On harder difficulties you can get dropped by characters with certain AOE guns without any feedback or warning. The officer hunts in particular were a source of rage quits for most people (Go kill a dude whos camping in a corner with a one hit kill explosive gun and he takes multiple headshots to kill!). The level design was very bad (lights often times lead you to dead ends) and weapons were somehow less interesting in new colossus despite the advancement of the setting. And the less said about the story the better.
@@pach6678 this was a well worded critique and I'm so glad it wasn't a word salad of political culture war buzzwords. I can't believe we were at a point where killing Nazis (like actual WW2 Nazi party members) was somehow "SJW propaganda" to some people
@@krisblaise8580 It wasn't just about killing nazis. It was the wanky "Make America Nazi-Free Again" "Not My America" marketing and "Oh the story is about liberating America from Nazi rule *wink*". Everyone knows nazis are bad, it had nothing to do with killing nazis. It could have been a game about killing fucking lambent from GOW and it still would have drawn ire for leveraging itself into political spaces as a marketing ploy, along with having a terribly uninspired character roster of whom clearly a good chunk are there to tick the diversity boxes.
Welp. You just solved the like, 18 year mystery of whatever that game i saw at gamestop was
This was my first ever FPS game on the Xbox 360. It was quite fun and I still have it on me. It may not be good, but it was a game that I have nostalgia for.
You've been walking around with this game on you? You must really like it!
Omg this unlocked a core memory of playing the demo when I was younger on 360. I was starting to think it was a fever dream
You're going to love SWAT 4 because it has an elevator repeatedly closing on a dead guy. Play the Red Library Office mission and you'll see some poor bastard with his head stuck in the doors.
Lemon party joke in the first 15 seconds, now that's my kind of video about ww2.
I literally bought this game because Michael Giacchino made the music for it, he was the one that made the music for Medal of Honor Frontline back in 2002. They got me good.
I waited for the dead to speak the entire time
Expectations subverted
@@oboeshoesgames Okay Riann Johnson
"man, this 13 year old game is outdated!" who could have guessed?
Now why did youtube reccomend this video out of everything, at this random time
These environmental takedowns are the most metal thing to create in 2009. Even beats Wolfenstein on those special death kills
Fun fact: the Vampir was a real piece of equipment that was like the shitty prototype of a night vision goggle. It was briefly used at the end of the war by the nazi army.
Well, it worked as intended, I wouldn't call it shitty. It was an overwhelming advantage in some situations that would otherwise have impossible odds; they mounted the infrared system on some tanks and armoured vehicles too.
It was the base of all NVG scopes. So not shitty at all
*german army mate, not nazi army
Genuinely enjoyed the setting for this game. That skyscraper mission at the start was pretty cool
I love how the character T-poses after getting off his first ladder
The fact I forgot this game existed and the fact i remembered that blockbuster had special pre order bonuses for it, one of which was an inflatable mini zeppelin, that I owned, astonishes me
I love how this is being recommended to me now
the scientist is just trying to escape from his war crimes with that kind of excuse lol
1:23 wow I never realized they put Bobby Hill in the game
Who would have thought a game in 2009 would get made fun for having a PNG for muzzle flash and then in the year 2023 the most wish listed game in the world would have the same thing. Truly ahead of their time.
You can always tell a game is good when you're not even 15 minutes in and it's already throwing you into a sewer level.
Assuming that game is Doom II, of course. Everyone else should have known better by 1995.
"Yellow is such a cool new color"
Prussian-dominated Germany has always been black and white dominant, with a splash of red.
Some states were blue and white dominant, yet others used the black, red and gold color options, as those were the coat of arms colors for the previous empire.
Hapsburg Austria was the one that was black and gold dominant. Russians copied that and added white.
Gold was also the branch color for Luftwaffe pilots and paratroopers, so that might be the deal with the zeppelins and paras using gold.
And the tankers wore pink.
@@juice-d5v In the Army. Different arm of service. Luftwaffe pink was aviator engineers.
@@Tounushi oh yeah, then what's the luft panzergenadiers?
I remember playing this along with madden 07 when I got my first ps3. The backwards compatible one with the Spider-Man font that was as big as the table I had it on. I thought at the time that it was the best graphics and best gameplay that video games were ever going to be lol
0:36-ish, usually in real life when paratroops land they remove their chutes because they are no longer parachuting into the combat zone. But since it's a video game, yeah, might as well have unlimited parachutes. that might have been to much to code tho hahahaha. I have only played this game like once or twice but thought it was alright.
Okay I wasn't ready for the Greedo Maclunkey at 7:52 🤣
probably called the lemon party had me efffinggg dyingggggggg lmaooooooooo
That T-pose at 0:25 pretty much sums up the effort put into this game.
I was so stoked for this game to come out and ended up spending more on the collectors edition with the aluminum box and a few other goodies. That was the last time I ever payed for a collectors or deluxe version of a game. 😂
*4:13* Took me a second to remember where this is from. I too like to quote old Strong Bad in these situations
I remember this game. I forgot it for so many years this is a trip seeing it again
Omg, I remember seeing that cover every time I went to my local EB (later GameStop) store! Don't remember giving the game much thought besides glancing at the back a couple of times perhaps, but I sure do remember that cover. Man, I miss physical game stores... We have a few electronic stores and hypermarkets still that sell some games and films, but all the dedicated (national) game and film/music stores are gone. I used to love going in and just looking at all the different games and such on display. Much more fun and easier than browsing thousands upon thousands of web pages.
That's how you know you're in a brutal, harsh game. The elevator door repeatedly closes on random lying corpse.
7:50, the guy was falling into the abyss and you want some audio?
I guess you're saying you want to have THE DEAD SPEAK!
I know its bad but its one the few games my mom bought me so it has a place in my heart, i played it so many times man growing up poor sucked
Me: Mom I want to buy Wolfenstein.
Mommy: We already have Wolfenstein at home.
Wolfenstein at home:
Best Walmart knockoff game I’ve seen and I’m getting my copy today once my friend sells me his at work
I been binging on Oboe's videos and I realized he's a simple guy.. Red barrels explode, simple effects that are suppose to happen make this man happy!
So basically this is WW2 Rogue Warrior
This game is very much better than modern warfare 2
100%
However it's not better than Call Of Duty Finest Hour, which was made by the same developer.
I got this game all the time from my local Video Warehouse because I had pathetically low standards at the time. There were two things I remembered from it: the MP50 is so cool and yellow Nazi flags.
All joking aside, I think the art direction for this game was pretty solid even if literally nothing else was. If I wanted a 'Nazis invade America' FPS that isn't crazy like Wolfenstein, I'd want something with art direction like this.
All in all, 4/10. Garbage.
Interesting time to get this recommended to me
I remember getting this game from Blockbuster and absolutely fell in love with the intro. I don't think I ever made it out of NYC though.
The fight around the White House wasn't bad, and yes that final mission was a pain in the butt. I seem to remember a part where you could stick an enemy's head into a toilet and kill him with a swirlie of doom too.
1:42 you can see that similar scene in CoD MW2 at the White House raid
“every game needs this” every game with an elevator has it
I loved this game as a kid the nostalgia is R E A L
I got recommended this video after YOU KNOW WHAT
Your thumbnail aged well
I remember getting this game at a market but the dude wasn't right on what the game was about but I could never forget the opening. This brings me true nostalgia
Kinda baller that you go back to play these old games that most people haven’t even heard before ❤
1:17 Is that fucking Slim Shady?
1:32 what a transition lol
What’s cool is the tanks in that storage warehouse were E-100’s which was an experimental tank that had its bull actually produced. (Turret was still a concept)
Literally the most accurate review of this game
Love how the infrared scope/light just turns the screen red.
My guy i just discovered your channel and your content is awesome continue the great work
Dude when you said this game came out in 2009 I was like 'was this delayed for a decade'
also that White Stripes joke was underrated
It's you've mentioned Wolfenstein - in same year as Turning Point came out also new Wolfenstein came out. It was great and until New Order was relased it was my favourite in series, but it's unfortunately pretty forgetable, and very hard to find.
"Are you a Nazi or are you French?"
I don't know which is worse.
Okay, okay, that was a bit too mean.
I'm sorry, Nazis.
Holy fuck this game was a huge part of my childhood. I need help to get it working thi
This game felt old and shitty when I played it in 2008 or 2009. Thank goodness they had video shops to rent games from back then so I paid maybe $5 and not $60.
I actually remember the commercial ad for this game. Completely forgot about it till now.
Missed opportunity to have the one glitched guy headbanging to rock music lol
that t-pose when dismounting the ladder at the beginning
turning point was interesting because of the modern take on older weaponry as well as showing advanced german tech (the Zielgerat 1229 IR system and the Entwicklung series vehicles)
Wait where's the E series vehicles?
@@M50A1 the german tanks that you face in the first level, as well as the parked vehicles in the zeppelin hanger
Pretty sure I was one of the 17 people who actually bought this game. Earliest memory of buyers remorse...
I am one of the 17...
I still remember this hardcore env kill in the White House level where you just kick a guy into a furnace and close the door.
Maclunky LIVES
Yakuza Kiwami 2 also has the obligatory "elevator closing on someone's body" scene and I love it
I found this game in a seven eleven for like eight dollars when I was starting out in high school. I played it all the way through and remember thinking it was okay but I don't remember playing through it ever again afterwards.
This game needs a remaster, with blood and more TV smash.
Paratrooper lands on ground, using only parachute* “He’s a paratrooper where’s his parachute”
Okay that vampire scope was kinda crazy though most games would never aknowledge that design
I remember this game being heavily marketed as the cod killer in every gaming channel in that time trailer and screen shot everywhere but after launch it just disappeared