What's in the Black Box? - Kingdom Hearts Explanation and Theory

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  • Today we're tackling one of Kingdom Hearts' longest running mysteries. Ever since Back Cover people have been wanting to know, just what is in the Black Box? I feel like there are a lot of clues to let us put forward a decent guess, let me know what you think!
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  • @AdmiralRamirez7
    @AdmiralRamirez7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1041

    An embarrassing photo of spongebob at the Christmas party.

    • @briannawilson8845
      @briannawilson8845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      😂

    • @JapanFreak2595
      @JapanFreak2595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I would make the same joke but it’s a photo of Aced instead.

    • @4castcrew584
      @4castcrew584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Zeldafan1ify
      @Zeldafan1ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      After 20 years... will they finally unveil IT?!?!

    • @JapanFreak2595
      @JapanFreak2595 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zeldafan1ify dude the box has only existed for like 5 years.

  • @robTCGZ
    @robTCGZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    "A giant X marks the spot"
    Not gonna lie, that one BLEW me away!!!
    So simple, and yet it's its simplicity that makes it believable.

    • @Djanjo24
      @Djanjo24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      simple and clean.

    • @GiubileiFernando
      @GiubileiFernando 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@Djanjo24 Sanctuary

    • @antiguax8121
      @antiguax8121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@GiubileiFernando ❤😊😂❤

  • @amadeusrex3360
    @amadeusrex3360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    The "X" marks the spot gave me chills. So genius.

    • @MrRobot-0
      @MrRobot-0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not genius but definely something nomura would do

    • @DiogoLZ
      @DiogoLZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@MrRobot-0 But Nomura is a genius.

    • @xeth9074
      @xeth9074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DiogoLZ and a great joker at hiding hints….

    • @saturndesastres
      @saturndesastres 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same ! So simple and under our eyes

    • @familytv1523
      @familytv1523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      neverland , peter pans world

  • @davidcox8015
    @davidcox8015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    With 4 darknesses stuck in Data Daybreak Town, could we see more of a further callback to symbolism with 4 horseman of the apocalypse when the box is opened?

    • @Ingisen
      @Ingisen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In that case... I seriously hope someone at Disney, Square etc takes the chance to reference "Supernatural". Especially Death.

    • @JL0ndon
      @JL0ndon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ingisenlike the show?

    • @Ingisen
      @Ingisen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JL0ndon Indeed. Would be cool if they got the actor to portray and voice the character

  • @Bossu
    @Bossu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Luxu: Make sure to hide it very well!
    Brain: YARR HARR, X MARKS THE SPOT!

    • @pratmid5816
      @pratmid5816 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is my headcanon now

  • @darkenkil4416
    @darkenkil4416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It's Walt Disney's heart. When it opens in Kingdom Hearts 4, he will rise from the dead and begin his reign over the Earth.

  • @Ithenna
    @Ithenna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    As usual, I'm baffled by your ability to make logical sense of this whole mess, and also grateful for your easier to understand explanations and theories. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @sabermura6153
    @sabermura6153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    What if Luxu turned Brain into a nobody and immediately defeated his heartless and hop into his Nobody until he was ready to hop into another body which would destroy the Nobody and cause Brain to reform

    • @Mr587098
      @Mr587098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I had a feeling that may be the case too but to me at least Brain's Heartless was slay until much later as I felt by the time Brain shows up at Scala it was centuries if not millennias later.

    • @adammorin2955
      @adammorin2955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I feel as though luxu is brain. Like luxu is a version of brain from another worldline or the future

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adammorin2955 I've thought this once or twice as well. I'm not sure if that's what's going on here or not, though. There's a lot of unknowns when it comes to worldlines and if there are multiple timelines or only one, etc, that we don't know how that actually works in the KH universe.

    • @adammorin2955
      @adammorin2955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SubduedRadical The thing is i dont actually believe luxu stole brains body. i think that was actually luxu in the graveyard while brain goes into the future or brain was in the graveyard and brain hid the box while luxu hid. supported by the fact that luxu had no idea where the box was in kh 3.

    • @chaellExE
      @chaellExE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SubduedRadical If that's true that means there are a finite of people existing/existed or will ever exist in the universe. Either dead/alive or unborn.

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I just realized that the use specific renders, shades, and coloring for the same characters depending on what world they are on, Olympus has a more cartoonish intermediate Blender animator look, Toy Box exaggerates the plastic look of things, and Caribbean has photorealistic appearances. I now understand why the game needs to take so long loading into a new world but runs so smoothly and transitions take so little time in said world. The game needs to completely swap out nearly everything graphically per world. I am pretty sure Kingdom Hearts 3 is not the first game to do this; however, it is amazing nonetheless.

  • @voidjockey82
    @voidjockey82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Some small additions that I've noticed:
    A) When Luxu asked the Master about what was in the box, he reacted very surprised if not shocked by the answer. Now, the Digital Daybreak Town alone would not be that surprising an answer, even for Luxu who doesn't know that the memories saved there can be used by the vessels developed in the future to restore the lives of those sacrificed. But according to the plan the Master told Luxu (i.e. not his actual one since that one depends on Luxu reacting in certain ways to his fake one), one of the 13 Sentient Darkness' would be locked up in that Digital World with no apparent means of escape. Therefore, Luxu is shocked at the Master ordering him to carry around a trapped Sentient Darkness to later be opened instead of hiding or destroying it.
    B) According to the Master of Masters, he does not plan on sacrificing anyone. Now, this gets a bit tricky to interpret since we do not know who he all considers a sacrifice, e.g. do the children turned Darklings which only happened because they served a Union, an institution which he created, sacrifices or does he say they would have fallen to darkness either way once it would have taken over the world?
    However, assumming he considers the Children who have died in the 1. Key Blade War to be sacrifices, then while we do have Data Versions of them meaning their memories, as well as the possibility of creating replicas for them, we saw their hearts leave for Kingdom Hearts, meaning they would already have been reincarnated as someone new, instead of the Dandilions which we know are stored in the Dream Eaters due to being in a Sleeping Word.
    C) You were right in that Brain or at least someone who looked like him was the last person we saw with the box. However, we saw him right above the Keyblade Graveyard, meaning it could have been moments before he buried it there, therefore clarifying if it had been opened previously and where it stayed in the mean time. Also, this would still match the description of "having been guarded by Key Blade Wielders through the ages", just in this case dead ones.

  • @NARUHOTEL
    @NARUHOTEL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Yooo, nobody is really trying to make KH theory videos anymore. Then here you come out of nowhere with an absolute juicy banger. Bro, thank you. You brought back the chills that I can only get from this beloved series.

    • @tristanneal9552
      @tristanneal9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thought too. This filled the theory hole in my heart.

  • @silentfangirls2954
    @silentfangirls2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The fact that you used a Goofy Laugh to censor "what's in the the f****** box?!" near the beginning at 1:08 is hilarious!!

  • @QuinSkew
    @QuinSkew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Another box. Then I will put it in another box and smash it with a hammer. It's brilliant, brilliant,

    • @damo
      @damo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      it's just babushka boxes all the way down

    • @adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407
      @adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh yeah it's all coming together

    • @Nameless-ln5mr
      @Nameless-ln5mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or, in order to save on postage, I’LL POISON HIM WITH THIS!

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "I'll turn him into a flea! A HARMLESS, little flea. Then I'll put that flea in a box. The I'll put THAT box inside another box. Then I'll mail the box...TO myself. And when it arrives - HAHAHA!!! - I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER!! Or...to save on postage, I'll poison him with THIS!"
      Such a great quote.

    • @Nameless-ln5mr
      @Nameless-ln5mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SubduedRadical Take it Radical! Feel the power!

  • @-libertyprimev1-902
    @-libertyprimev1-902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No one ever seems to mention Pete's Outfit has the Recusant's Sigil, meaning they've always got tabs on Maleficent's whereabouts too.

    • @dth99times
      @dth99times 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has suspenders in the shape of an X but not a Chi symbol unless I'm mistaken which is the Recusant's Sigil.

  • @NoTimeStudios
    @NoTimeStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Several thoughts:
    - I have a feeling that the MoM might be who told Maleficent about the box. The use of dingbat as a descriptor would fit his demeanor and being in a black coat, hood down, it could be an easy sell as just another member of NeoOrg.
    - For some reason, I can't get "I open at the close" (from Harry Potter) out of my head when thinking about the black box. Its way too convenient that it only appears at the end of the game. Possibly linking to how it 'appears' again, maybe it was tied to Xeahnort/darkness losing the prophesied battle OR light expires battle wasn't in KH3, a red herring, and the box's content will lead to the real fight. But what would that say about the masters intent? That he wants darkness to win this fight?
    - What about the seven crowns mentioned in I think the first part of the KHUX finale, I kinda feel that's whats possibly in the box.
    - Vibing with the idea of it being a literal black box, maybe it being left in the keyblade graveyard, it was meant to gather the light/darknerss/spirit? of those who passed in the Keyblade War. Assumable that their would have been more people fighting then Dandelion's who escaped so being able to capture them could be a big advantage for a fight against the darkness. Also, would explain how the Foretellers could be summoned back, if they died and are contained within the box, then Luxu could easily just bring them back from it since he knows at the very least what it contains.
    - Regardless, I think its going to be a Pandora's box situation, theirs so much emphasis on it that from a story writing perspective, it just feels like the best pay off. Especially cause it could be opened by anyone now that its back.
    - Also, low-key been thinking for a while now that Luxu and MoM aren't on the same side/fighting for the same thing. Which going with my idea earlier, it would make sense that the MoM could have told another party to look for the box and that that would be enough pressure for Luxu to spill the beans and get NeoOrg to look for it too.

    • @Fragmentsinfractals488
      @Fragmentsinfractals488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Luxu is the "dingbat in Black". After all, Xigbar is right above them, and says "May your heart be your guiding key". Xigbar knows Maleficent is Greedy and Prideful, Darkness traits. He is leading her on a wild goose chase so she will stay away from Xehanort's Keyblade War. I believe Xigbar already know where it is and when it wil appear.
      For evidence, see Xigbar conversation with Zexion in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. Or, I will tell you. Xigbar already knows Xemnas's Secret, but is trying to incite Zexion's curiousity and need to know.

    • @jordancrooks6752
      @jordancrooks6752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think darkness told her about the box , because they were working together in union cross

    • @Fragmentsinfractals488
      @Fragmentsinfractals488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jordancrooks6752 Darkness told her about the Book of Prophecies, Xigbar probably told her it might be in the Box.

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It can't be Darkness that Pete's referring to, because Darkness wouldn't be a "dingbat" in a black coat. Not to mention Pete wasn't there to see her talking with it, so how would Pete know about that unless Maleficent told him the details of the conversation, which seems unlikely given her personality. She'd have just said "Someone told me" or "I have my ways of knowing these things" or "It is etched", none of which would have given him the knowledge of a "dingbat" in a black coat.
      So while Darkness MIGHT ALSO have told her about it, someone in a black coat did as well. And given MoM talked to Young Xehanort 75 years ago and is seen in the ending on top of the building, we know he's at least somewhat active and able to manifest in this general era.
      I'm not sure if Luxu and MoM "aren't on the same side", but Luxu is "The Traitor". Which can mean a lot of things. For example, it could mean he's on MoM's side, but at some point or another will break with or try to oppose his mission. Ava did this herself when she kind of decided to try to change destiny by making a change to something. I can't remember, but I think it was either who she gave one of the books to or a note or something she left in it? Regardless, Luxu could be doing something like that, a kind of "what if there's a better way/defy fate" type of thing.
      The thing is, MoM already knows the future and seems to have planned for it, so it seems Luxu's "betrayal" would be part of his plans. Perhaps even an ESSENTIAL part of it. That he NEEDS Luxu to do something "wrong" vs his orders. Like what if he told Luxu to never open the Box because he NEEDS Luxu to open the Box at some point, and that "betrayal" is actually essential to his plan?
      I guess we'll find out in 10 years or so. XD Or maybe sometime sooner in a side mobile game.

    • @Fragmentsinfractals488
      @Fragmentsinfractals488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SubduedRadical Also Luxu's name was given to him by Mom. Luxu name contains the recusant sigil, the x. The sigil of traitors.
      Luxu already betrayed by telling Ava what he thought he knew. That there was just the Idea of a Traitor to attracted Darkness. Ava attacks him, and the strike that rings the bell occurs. Then, the Foreteller Keyblade War happens.
      However, Mom wanted him to follow his Heart and do that

  • @ryan20xx70
    @ryan20xx70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Another hypothesis is that the box actually contains Quadradum which is a virtual world created by the Master, tailor made to be of neither light nor darkness but where hearts can be alternatively transferred to instead of the final world when perishing. The nameless star and Yozora are data copies of Kairi and Riku (that’s why they share their likenesses) that the Master created after gaining knowledge of their existence through the Book of Prophecy. Yozora was told to save Sora because he was literally programmed to do that but the actual heart residing within Yozora is of another person who we haven’t seen yet. (Possibly KH’s version of Noctis) This could also lead to the denizens of Quadradum actually being the data copies of wielders from the OG Daybreak Town but without the magic of light and darkness ended up turning the world into a more real world modern day setting more focused on technology and the creation of the Gigas. Some elemental magic may still exist based on what we see in the Beat of Lead Toy Story world trailer.

  • @DigitalGamerPixel
    @DigitalGamerPixel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So.
    I have a weird theory regarding Brain and Luxu.
    Names are important and Kingdom Hearts, I'm recently going through the games again and I've been seeing hints that Luxu was Xigbar all along. I think Xigbar "Braig" is the physical body of Brain and the mind of Luxu, almost like Xehanort and Terra were in one body.
    It just seems too much of a coincidence that Brain is just one letter removed from Braig, you just have to remove the N and add a G. But you notice that Bragi and Braig are the EXACT same name just with the letters rearranged, and we see that Bragi is in fact Luxu at the end of Dark Road.
    With Brain saying he'd need more than one lifetime to fix things, I think somehow Luxu gave him that opportunity and "Braig" is in fact Brain's physical form. What COULD be interesting is if Brain has his moments of taking the body and implementing his own agenda and hid the box from Luxu.

  • @canariawing
    @canariawing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    your conclusion gave me goosebumps omg it makes so much sense with all of the information given and the hints at what it is.

  • @swetha94
    @swetha94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    this is the best theory i’ve heard! thanks for mapping it all out Damo, fantastic KH video essay content as usual~

  • @Psianabel
    @Psianabel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Box containing Data Daybreak has been by far the most convincing theory for a long time to me, but I never could really explain it - but this video is just it. Oh man this was soo so good! The X marks the spot is so genius, and i never thought about the Box being buried.
    I really can't wait til we actually know what's in the Box in the end, but I truly hope it is Data Daybreak :D

  • @quicksam9941
    @quicksam9941 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    never played khx, khux or dark road, but i finally decided to watch all of the cutscenes over the past week, and now your videos make a whole lot more sense to me now! I wish there were more content creators talking about lore and theories the way that you do! you are very logical and straightforward in your approach, you seem to be able to think laterally to connect the pieces together, and overall you seem to have an extremely intuitive understanding of the kh universe! can't wait for more of your vids, and of course can't wait for missing link!

  • @alexarnold8461
    @alexarnold8461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm convinced. It makes a lot of sense that it contains the backup.

  • @Wikloe
    @Wikloe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was chatting with some friends a week ago and this exact theory just popped into my head while we were discussing some KH lore. That data daybreak town was in the box, and idk how to describe it but it made so much sense. I also had another few theories I was thinking over, however I prefer the data being in the box one given all the evidence you gathered supporting it that I missed.

  • @zichithefox4781
    @zichithefox4781 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Maleficent may be wrong about the black box appearing after the Keyblade War, since that timeline's version of her time traveled before the war even took place. So she may be banking on a notion she is unaware has already passed. But she does at least know of the box's destined disappearance and reappearance, so she may learn more in KH4, and find someway, or be led by Darkness, to thwart the ranks of Yen Sid and the Lights, to find a way to get to someone who knows how to get to the box.

  • @TheDimensionDweller
    @TheDimensionDweller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, that X marks the spot line of logic was so satisfying

  • @strelitzianicolai4972
    @strelitzianicolai4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Damo is back like a sage with enlightened knowledge

  • @personahearts358
    @personahearts358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The wait for KH4 is on and we still don’t know what’s in the Black Box, meaning whatever’s inside is HUGE

    • @Alex-lc5dz
      @Alex-lc5dz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Then it turns out to be nothing, i would laugh.

    • @tinseltina
      @tinseltina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Alex-lc5dz i'm expecting it to be nothing too. and that it's just there to cause suspicion in the same way the extra page/assignments of the foretellers were meant to cause the keyblade war the first time. or a vessel for the MoM to hop into at the last second

    • @optifix8258
      @optifix8258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It will be just a giant kh3 attraction Kappa

    • @ComicCrossing
      @ComicCrossing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just wonder if Nomura would make all this important information as to whats in the box exclusive to the mobile game. Like if a casual player is playing KH4 and all of a sudden this box that was hyped up all throughout the last game is opened and its....DATA DAYBREAK TOWN!...... theyre gonna say WTF is that lol
      The UnionX story really needs a remake as a better game or another movie.

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComicCrossing Considering almost every non-console KH game has been remade for a console release, that's not too impossible. Granted, I beat Union Cross in ~4 days (they extended it for a month, so I decided to give it a shot, took about 2.5 days, but I wasn't able to play for one day and I spent some time on day 2 researching more advanced things about how Supernovas/Renovas worked when I started hitting the missions I just couldn't beat), but I get that not everyone got to or...even knew the game existed - I didn't until sometime in 2020. Kept seeing TH-cam videos referencing it and was like "What is this? It seems to have important story going on for the series..."
      The irony is, I think I made a character a VERY long time ago when it was a PC thing, because I remember logging in and getting a bracelet to capture light and trying to find the Dwarves in Snow White's world. But I don't think I played it more than that, and reading the game's history, I CAN'T have because I think that version was only in Japanese, and I could only read English at the time...
      Anyway, point being, I figure they'll make SOMETHING at some point that includes Union Cross (though the total story of it is complex considering the events happen 2 or 3 times, since you had the "first time" then people being remade in the Data world to do the first part of the entire game's story a second time, only deviating towards the later part because the Keyblade War didn't happen in the Data version) and probably Back Cover. And probably, like the bonus mission in 2.8 (I think?) Final Mix that had you play Aqua after the events of Birth By Sleep, there'll probably be some extra extended mission/story that leads into KH4.
      XD

  • @DLegend16
    @DLegend16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing video, Damo! Thanks for opening this Pandora’s box of theories for us 😉

  • @Stanlyy.
    @Stanlyy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just some days ago I checked your channel if I have missed recent uploades and there he is again. Good to hear you and theory is spot on as always.

  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome video! I have a video on Maleficent where I analyzed her timeline, I wanted to say, I think Xigbar could be the only one who told her about it. It’s one of my earliest videos. Mostly because he was sweating where it is and needed help to find it. Between KH2 and Dream Drop/Coded, Maleficent wanted to claim the Castle That Never Was- yet Organization Xiii still used it. I think Xigbar may have bargained with her about it and gave her some information so she would go away. Alternatively, I think that she may have been told in the past, and that there is evidence that she didn’t finish time travel after UX. But the evidence of that surround Lauriam and Elrena and their destinations after time travel, as well as the events that theoretically transpire around the collapse of Radiant Garden.
    I can definitely see your point in all of this and I’ve touch on much of the same ideas. Right now I’ve just launched my theories on Yozora and Shinjuku, please come on over to my channel and check it out!

  • @RainKerosene
    @RainKerosene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have trouble concentrating on certain things (especially narrated videos like this) but your presentation and explanations on everything are very easy to follow and keep attention very well, a lot of other lore videos from comparable channels I might only be able to watch for a couple minutes, but your videos have captivated me for the entire length, bravo!

  • @tylerfrancom8538
    @tylerfrancom8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was absolutely genius and incredible. Your theory makes so much sense it kills me

  • @gaymer4rmmeletis
    @gaymer4rmmeletis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to see you back! Amazing work as always.

  • @SweetSoundP0N3
    @SweetSoundP0N3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! This came outta nowhere! Can't wait to check this theory out! Love your stuff Damo.

  • @hollydefnet4705
    @hollydefnet4705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    new Damo theory just dropped!!!! so cohesive, thought out, and compelling. also happy belated birthday!!

  • @CaptainWolverine1993
    @CaptainWolverine1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've been operating under this assumption for awhile since the UX finale dropped and if we do assume it is data daybreak town in the box it would also explain why the Chirities had the ability to protect their wielders heart by storing it within themselves, after all they were created by the MoM so it must tie into his plan in someway, because of this I've been thinking that it may be that the data within the box could be used in the same way as shown for how Roxas returns in KH3, by using the data of the individuals stored within the digital space to prepare the bodies/replicas for the ancient wielders.

  • @jay2coolfau
    @jay2coolfau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm actually really glad I watched some of the lore videos and then it took me to this because I was always wondering what was in that box. And it was talked about for so much but it was so unclear as to where the importance was. You did a great job doing research for this and I really respect that you went over every single point thoroughly.

  • @odinsky5516
    @odinsky5516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This the 2nd video I've watched from you now you have my sub thanks for putting together such eloquent videos to break down the lore!!! I'm staying tuned and getting caught up...great job!

  • @HunkyTurk
    @HunkyTurk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your hard work and this excellent video Damo!

  • @Frosfank3034
    @Frosfank3034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This theory is... pretty goddamn good
    Making sense of kh3 black box scenes in a cohesive and symbolical way, connectin all the mobile games information.
    I hope you're right even if only to validate a job well done! (would be a pretty cool way for the story to go too)

  • @temetyly
    @temetyly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damo, I think you've got it. As soon as you pointed out the Masters names link to the 7 sins, I was on the same line 😂
    Nice surprise to see your upload and even better its on this topic.

  • @TheFleshPrevails
    @TheFleshPrevails 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm never one to accept fan theories but damn you convinced me. Love your stuff man! Very well explained and supported

  • @jennasloan396
    @jennasloan396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the mischievous Master of Masters was the original owner of the black box, then the box is probably empty and only exists to promote conflict.

  • @hillaryslack2884
    @hillaryslack2884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your theory and your thoughts. I am still unwilling to decide on what I think is in the black box but your idea is one of the ones that I think is likely.

  • @mr.boomboom6255
    @mr.boomboom6255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My boy Damo out here laying the real shit down! Keep it up bro Damo!!

  • @BatuqueOnda
    @BatuqueOnda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Damo! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 I believe it! 😃Especially with all the pirate references. You pay so much attention to details. Only time will tell if there’s another explanation...

  • @sablen1319
    @sablen1319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Theory Hype! I love these games so much because of the theories

  • @jimsizzle5288
    @jimsizzle5288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video dude! Keep up the great work.

  • @juzin94
    @juzin94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So my only question I guess is, did luxu or MoM open the box during the final battle?
    Like how was Ephemer and the dandelions able to aid Sora in that final confrontation against the mass of heartless?
    If we assume that the box was actually buried there like it's obviously accessible but how did everyone "get out" to aid Sora?

  • @Nhoadkoko
    @Nhoadkoko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a crazy but logical theory. I love it.
    Great Video as always ^^

    • @damo
      @damo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I might get this comment framed; perfect description of the content I'm trying to make hahahahaha

  • @bellharper1889
    @bellharper1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome Video :) Enjoy It From The Beginning To The End, My Theory Was That The Black Box Literally Contain H.O.P.E (Looking Back After Your Video Was That Luxord, Vexen, Maleficent and Pete Went Through So Many Worlds To Find This "Black Box" But What If One Of Them Found The Black Box "How Would The Person Even Open The Box Anyway?". "Wouldn't You Need Some Key Or Keyblade To Open It?" Like You Mention: Both Pete and Maleficent Found Pandora's Chest In KH 3 But They Didn't Open It And Also To Open Dead Man's Chest Was To Get The Key :) Makes Me Think "Wouldn't You Need Something To Open The Black Box?" "Or If You Opened It Would Some Effect Happen To You?" :) (Maybe You Need The No Name Keyblade) :)

    • @StarmenRock
      @StarmenRock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you really take time to capitalize every single first letter? Thats insane.

    • @joncheung1378
      @joncheung1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xigbar's arrow guns has 13 bullets that resemble the 13 locks on the box. The arrow gun is the key to opening the black box

    • @bellharper1889
      @bellharper1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StarmenRock Okay So :)

    • @bellharper1889
      @bellharper1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joncheung1378 Great Theory :)

    • @joncheung1378
      @joncheung1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bellharper1889 thanks.
      I find that kingdom hearts uses the 7 and 13 number motifs. I looked for quantities of 13 in the game. Luxu/Xigbar is associated with the black box. The black box has 13 locks. I found that the only thing about luxu/Xigbar related to the number 13 are the number of bullets on his arrowguns.
      Even the center tip of the arrowguns resemble the center lock of the black box

  • @yeetusvanitas9800
    @yeetusvanitas9800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You’ve done it again Damo. I’m convinced at this point that you’re reading over Nomura’s shoulder! It makes so much sense!

  • @stephaniestop3174
    @stephaniestop3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been thinking the exact same thing about what is in the box! It feels very validating that I’m not the only one thinking it!

  • @taqresu5865
    @taqresu5865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Analyzing this myself I have few thoughts. Luxu told Luxord he heard the box was "protected by Keyblade Wielders since way back when." That aspect may also be true (or intentional misinformation, which I wouldn't put past Luxu/Xigbar).
    But if it was hypothetically true, it means that Keyblade wielders of the past could have had an active role in protecting the box, or its location in the very least.
    And if the box does indeed contain 4 of the 13 Darknesses, it may mean that the Master will allow their release only when suitable People strong enough to host these Darknesses will appear, not before. He intentionally had the most powerful 7 Darknesses inhabit himself, Luxu, and the Foretellers. 1 Darkness probably dissipated a mass collective of darkness, tangible as Heartless. 1 Darkness because Vanitas, and possibly also manifested in part as Unversed. So who is strong enough to host the 4 trapped Darknesses? I think it may be Skuld, Marluxia, Strelitzia, and Xehanort.
    The Master chose to appear in person before Xehanort for a reason, and in the Keyblade Graveyard no less, egging on his path towards darkness.
    As for why I suggested Marluxia, Skuld, and Strelitzia, they're all meant to be Union Leaders, and the only Union Leaders meant to progress into the future. They were probably specifically chosen because their hearts were strong enough to Host the weaker Darknesses.
    In other words. It may still be part of the Master's plan to completely exterminate the 13 Darknesses.
    However, I think the Master could be completely in the wrong be exterminating the 13 Darknesses, because I think they're all vital in restoring the original Kingdom Hearts and the original X-blade. I still think the 13 Darknesses, and the 7 Lights that make up the Princesses of Light, might be the 20 pieces the original X-blade split into, and I think the original X-Blade was broken when the Master was still young (explaining why he told Luxu the Keyblade War has been raging on the whole time). I think the Master has been trying to take Destiny into his own hands by trying to eliminate 13 pieces of the original X-Blade.

    • @SOLaharl
      @SOLaharl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might be right. But the mere existence of that wall of text you just made and the possibility of it being "spot on" just tells me the writers have no idea where all of this goes/ all of this has been going through the years. Hence, I stopped caring a long time ago.

    • @taqresu5865
      @taqresu5865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SOLaharl I'm sorry if the text wall was too much. And yeah, I understand your critique. The lore is undeniably convoluted, and at times it certainly makes you wonder how much of it was planned. I feel like I'm doing as much speculation now as when I first saw KH2's Secret Ending. I completely get where you're coming from.
      I think more than anything though, I'm mostly attached to these characters. For the most part, they don't understand the story anymore than we do, so their specific arcs feel more personalized and relatable. And Kingdom Hearts does have one of my favorite Soundtracks of any video game franchise. So... Nomura still has me hooked lol

    • @toddlemmon01
      @toddlemmon01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SOLaharl you stopped caring for a bad reason then because they definitely know where they’re going with all of this

  • @unknown123455
    @unknown123455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your explanation and analysis. I conclude that this plot was "literally buried" during KH3 because everything else was so busy. So, again thanks. Because of you, I just read through the Union X/Dark Road plots and I'm a little clearer on the whole situation. The problem, is how this plot will be integrated in Kingdom Hearts 4 via a long exposition cutscene or a very long recap that makes the information accessible. It'll be essential if your Data Daybreak Town theory comes true, which is likely. They still have the cutscene models so they could make it a full level. But it'll be tough to explain since Back Cover X was only the first third of that story and Luxu/Box/MasterofMasters were just teases for stories to arrive later.
    …Also, your "X" marks the spot was beautifully delivered. Keep up the great work.

  • @AGGSab
    @AGGSab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Soras invitation to smash was inside of it

  • @ZeranZeran
    @ZeranZeran ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy crap, all this time I thought it would be a vessel, an eye, a heart, an artifact
    It's a backup. This fits so well. I think you nailed it. Love these videos Damo. Thank you.

  • @strider4life696
    @strider4life696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inside the box is...
    Sora's invitation to join Smash.

  • @maykupi4147
    @maykupi4147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing Video :) Did A Brilliant Job With This Video :) Same With Your Other Videos :) Never Had The Idea That The Black Box Might Contain Data Daybreak Town :) Thank You So Much For Making This Video, Made My Day And Gave Me A Different Perspective On The Black Box :)

  • @Asterious_JP
    @Asterious_JP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe the contents of the box are the friends we made along the way.
    But like, literally because of this is KH.

  • @SylDragonia
    @SylDragonia 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love that when you come back to Olympus you see three digged holes. Even Hercules statue.

  • @plushkun5965
    @plushkun5965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Donald’s ability to properly heal you is inside the box

  • @ghostguy9
    @ghostguy9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait to hear more

  • @benbannett
    @benbannett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the box contains a copy of the Book of Prophecies that has a different ending. It has the true ending of light prevailing over the darkness since the Master would be able to see the timeline splitting through his Keyblade since it’s in both futures.

  • @xxGhostfreak11
    @xxGhostfreak11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh mind blown well done again

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, I have subscribed to your channel!

  • @OldManMcLoyf
    @OldManMcLoyf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent theory, concrete

  • @AkibaMomoro
    @AkibaMomoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buried at the cross road of fates in kingdom hearts. Loved that touch

  • @dumbdave961
    @dumbdave961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are interesting points
    The X! That's amazing!

  • @matt_playzsora7654
    @matt_playzsora7654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job! I created a TH-cam video of the black box a few days ago.

  • @PyroD23
    @PyroD23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is actually a genius breakdown. I don't think the idea of it being that straight forward is foolish at all.
    The irony in it would be that throughout this series, the story has been VERY complex and sometimes even beyond comprehension in some cases.
    Then Nomura is just like "Lol yeah the Black Box is buried like treasure, X marks the spot. Simple and Clean as that."

  • @VGInterviews
    @VGInterviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I agree with the points of the Box containing a backup/server for DDBT but Xigbar's whole search arc seemed a little weird for me. Why would he need to enlist Luxord and Vexen to try and find it if he suddenly knew its location? whether it is in the KBG or any other place, also the fact that the scene where he recovers The Master of Masters Keyblade from the KBG after Xehanort's defeat, shows rhat he already had the box by that point could mean that the box was somewhere else and he just returned to the KBG for the Keyblade
    He is even shown grabbing the keyblade that just fell from the sky, so it would mean this happened pretty much instantly after Xehanort's defeat (probably even before Sora and the gang returned from Scala inside KH) so if by that point he already had the box meant that it didn't take him long to retrieve it (assuming he went and got it after he "died" during the labyrinth battles, knowing that Xehanort would soon fall)
    As for the master's goal, I think that's where Quadratum comes in place, being a world outside the nornal KH universe the laws of Light and Darkness would work different so maybe all of this was set up as a way to prepare a setting where the darknesses could be definitely destroyed without allowing them to come back (something like the marvel comics where if you take the infinity gems outside their home universe they become useless) MoM locked darknesses fragments among the apprentices hearts and his own as a way to gain time until the future where they could be defeated comes into existence and someone who can destroy them appears, AKA our boy Sora who has learned to wield light, fight darkness and now will have to learn to fight in this new universe (also the "powers" or light and darkness not existing in Quadratum serves an in universe explanation to whu Sora would be Lvl1 again in KH4, on top of the whole "you'll lose your powers after breaking the Nature Taboo" which at least during his battle with Yozora he still had them)

  • @EternityinOurHearts316
    @EternityinOurHearts316 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes a lot of sense!

  • @Soooooooooooonicable
    @Soooooooooooonicable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You blew my mind with the X in the keyblade graveyard. NOMUURRRAAA

  • @DigiBrad
    @DigiBrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot wait for the 20th anniversary event!
    The dark road finale, maybe even an game announcement / tease, all the way to expensive goodies I can't afford, disney+ series?(really stretching here but there were rumors so who knows). Really looking forward to the future of this series

  • @frankhunter8703
    @frankhunter8703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great theory Damo i wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the Truth. I hope to see more from you soon

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My thought is that it must be related to the Master of Masters. I even thought when seeing the cutscene for first time that it might be the Master of Masters' heart or actual body (if corpse can actually exist in the Kingdom Hearts universe or they simply vanish upon death in most cases unless becoming nobodies). I mainly just want any excuse to hear more of Ray Chase as much as possible.

  • @yonassamuel4082
    @yonassamuel4082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing!

  • @skateboardturtle
    @skateboardturtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even think Nomura knows whats in the box

  • @Grizbear012
    @Grizbear012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IM SO HAPPY YOU PUT IN A SE7EN referefence

  • @TheDisarminghinkle
    @TheDisarminghinkle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering the way forgetting and remembering and understanding things in the Kingdom Hearts universe can literally change the nature of things and the universe as a whole, it does seem highly likely that the Black Box is a literal black box, containing data. And, that data, if disseminated to people at large, could fundamentally change the nature of the universe. Or bring back to life someone forgotten.

  • @leilaclarridge5807
    @leilaclarridge5807 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My theory back before 3 released and Union X ended was that the Black Box contained a computer that held the digitized hearts of the Dandelions, and that it would be found at some point of the blot and then opened during the final battle at the Keyblade Graveyard, allowing the Keyblade wielders inside to be set free and help Sora and company.

  • @laith9989
    @laith9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly we have been blessed

  • @dth99times
    @dth99times 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One personal theory I've had tangentially related to anything is that Sora is never truly made whole by recombining with Roxas. That would explain his usage of Rage Form and Anti-Form. Also the continued existence of Roxas suggests the same. Therefore his defeat in KH3 should mean that he should recombine and return to Hollow Bastion after his brief stint in the Final World. Him using the power of waking to save his friends could've split the timeline. If Kingdom Hearts lore allows for fractured timelines, there could be a rogue Sora that has lost everything in that alternate timeline.

  • @seanakima50515e
    @seanakima50515e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe Luxu opened the box at the end of Kh3. There were 4 darkness trapped 4 of the foretellers returned...
    So those 4 darkness could now be inside the foretellers, or the plan is for them to be inside those 4, and we have been misled this entire time and the other foretellers didnt house darkness until now.
    MoM has 1
    Luxu has 1
    Envi has 1
    Aced has 1
    Gula has 1
    Ira has 1
    Vanitas was 1
    After daybreak towns destruction the ceasefire starts and Darkness has nowhere to go with no keyblade wielders
    the other 6 COULD'VE temporarily hid inside
    Queen of Hearts
    Hades
    Maleficent
    Oogie Boogie
    Ursula
    Captain Hook
    As they all had strong hearts but were corrupted by darkness, but after their defeat the darknesses fled again with their memories of the past regained as they are reconnected to their "Hive mind"
    On Xehanorts World Tour he notices all of those villains house darkness and he tells them of other worlds and they become obsessed with the Keyblade because they saw Xehanorts power with it.
    Luxu could've told Brain to bury the box in that location and to not tell anyone of its location, as it's their Hope

  • @AbrahamLure
    @AbrahamLure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I completely forgot, the evil queen in snow white was all about having hearts in boxes, and then the person carrying the box didn't have it in him to put snow white's heart in it so he put a different heart in there.
    I wonder if that traditional fairytale hints to what is in this KH box and if it's why Malificent is so drawn to it.. perhaps the most purest heart of all

  • @RobbsterKlaw
    @RobbsterKlaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black Box is also a term referring to a type of stage in a theater. I think this definitely supports the theory.

  • @brunosimao211
    @brunosimao211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Damo!
    I am not sure what to think about this theory tho, maybe because it's too simple? hahahaha
    There are several questions to understand this scenario... Would it be only Daybreak Town that's inside the box? What about Game Central Station and every other world? And the Dandelions, are they still in the datascape? Their hearts are now being carried by their Chirities in Dream Eater forms... Dream Eaters lives only in the sleeping realms, so wouldn't they now be in the sleeping realm as well? Luxu told us that a datascape that goes into slumber simply "shut down", differently from Brain's previous thoughts about a "stand by" mode... Dunno, it's such a headache hahahhaha
    But the parallel with a airplane black box is amazing. I really think the box may be some kind of backup for the World, just can't feel confident to what kind of backup...
    Plus: The 4 darkness remnascent from the data, the evil inside the Pandora's box... Doesn't it give us some "four riders from the apocalypse" vibes? War, Hunger, Disease and Death... Just an idea I have been thinking lately. I am pretty sure they are out of scene yet!! Hehe

  • @Fragmentsinfractals488
    @Fragmentsinfractals488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Luxu is the "Dingbat in Black". After all, Xigbar is right above them, and says "May your heart be your guiding key". Xigbar knows Maleficent is Greedy and Prideful, Darkness traits. He is leading her on a wild goose chase so she will stay away from Xehanort's Keyblade War. I believe Xigbar already know where it is and when it wil appear.
    For evidence, see Xigbar conversation with Zexion in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. Or, I will tell you. Xigbar already knows Xemnas's Secret, but is trying to incite Zexion's curiousity and need to know.

  • @ianhammock4564
    @ianhammock4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a paper mache model of Gweneth Paltrow's head - the Master of Masters is a huge fan of "Se7en", as revealed by Xigbar/Braig/Luxu in a flashback in the "Birth By Sleep" light novel.

  • @commonsage_
    @commonsage_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best in the game, you nailed it

  • @ryan20xx70
    @ryan20xx70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this theory is true, Union X’s first epilogue scene with Brain could’ve been him hiding the box in the Keyblade Graveyard then transferring his heart into the box letting Luxu’s heart take over providing Luxu with a new body, and after gaining consciousness within’s Brain’s body, began to live his life not realizing the box had been buried right beneath him.
    The Brain we see show up in what we think is Scala is actually the data copy of Brain with Brain’s actual heart within it. This also means that the data Daybreak Town could’ve been transformed into a data version of Scala and all of the residents are data copies of the wielders from the original Daybreak Town.
    This could be the reason the hearts of the past assist Sora in the battle versus the demon tower in the keyblade graveyard; because their essences were being preserved directly beneath where Sora was battling. (However that could also just be a result of Sora’s kinship with the dream eaters/Spirits who we find out are the souls of the players/Union members of Union X)
    Essentially it boils down to the box containing data versions of generations of keyblade wielders and keyblade masters to be unleashed when the time calls to battle the true ultimate darkness.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure that last scene was the REAL location given Elphemer was in the real one that was being destroyed

    • @ryan20xx70
      @ryan20xx70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gracekim25 Ephemer was in the real Daybreak Town which did get destroyed and he did build Scala on top of that. What im implying is who’s to say the data Daybreak Town didnt also become a data Scala and that’s where Brain ended up.

  • @Orion_TheyThem
    @Orion_TheyThem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:07 "what's in the *hyuck* -in box???????"
    I am CRYYYIIIINNNNGGGG 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @Kirramagic
    @Kirramagic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever I see that box, I feel the chaotic little gremlin in me. It makes me wanna see the reaction of everyone in that world if that thing was shoved somehow into the depths of the ocean, or blown up with dynamite lol XD

  • @syllith3077
    @syllith3077 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay there's no way your theory is wrong. I think you nailed it right on the head!

  • @whiteraven1992
    @whiteraven1992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    _Union X_ has convinced me that the Black Box is the “waypoint” mentioned by the Master of Masters. He plans to travel to the distant future (the present of our heroes), and arrive inside the Black Box.
    ^
    But in order to do that, he needs Luxu (who has memories of MoM) and the No Name keyblade gifted to him (a medium containing MoM’s “gazing eye”).
    And for sure, MoM’s true name will be derived from _superbia,_ Latin for “pride”.

  • @aozorahaou2643
    @aozorahaou2643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Off topic from the video, speaking of Pride, Vanitas' name which is the Latin word for Vanity doesn't just mean emptiness signifying his empty feeling when he was released from Ventus, but also pride given he always considered Ventus useless like he was always superior to him despite needing him equal to him to complete the X-Blade in BBS.
    Making Vanitas the darkness of pride and he considers himself the darkness of Sora and Ventus so it'll be great to see where that goes.

  • @MrSlaughterrific
    @MrSlaughterrific 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The funny thing about hope being left in pandoras box is that it's a curse to make humanity endlessly endure all the evils

  • @CHEESEPUFF_7
    @CHEESEPUFF_7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is blowing my mind

  • @Deathbringersora
    @Deathbringersora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To call someone back you need what again, a person that remembers you and an item of importance to the person? Did Luxu have anything from the Foretellers, or is it is the box or is the box as it would be an entire world in this case.