To be fair, in another video Dr. Fung mentioned that a ketogenic diet results in 71% the benefit of fasting, so adding intermittent fasting in whatever form is an added benefit. He described keto and fasting as "cousins."
Dr. Jason Fung is one of the first doctors I came across when I started my weight loss journey and he really made me realize that you cannot continually eat …I am at a 30 pound weight loss and maintaining that for the past three years and finding him really changed my life.
I have just under 70 pounds to lose. I doing high protein moderate fat low carb alternate day fasting. So it's a Dr. Westman - Dr Fung combo. Skipping some meals allows me to afford rib eyes on a regular basis. Weight loss is steady, meals are enjoyable, and while my stomach may growl on fasting days, I don't get the shakes or light-headed anymore. I love your reaction videos.
Exactly what I thought: using low carb you do not feel so hungry and don't feel so hungry when fasting. Another benefit if you're carnivore is that it makes it so much cheaper!
Dr. Fung was the first person I learned from about my diabetes. I read the Diabetes Code and haven't looked back. There are others who can describe various facets of diabetes control in deeper detail, but he has is all right.
I see it fairly simply. If I never eat protein I will die. If I never eat fat, I will die. If I never eat carbs, I will be fine. There is NO HUMAN NEED FOR CARBOHYDRATES. When I eat keto, I am not hungry in the morning, so I eat later; voila! Intermittent Fasting.
@ElleCayote Wow! Incredibly well said!!! Excellent video & as always, so appreciated & greatly valuable. I love and admire both Dr. Fung & Dr. Westman. Meat on! Heal on! Fast on! 🦀🐟🥓 🦐🦞🧈🍳🍗🍖🥩
@@trail.blazer it varies seasonally but about 50% of the Hadza's caloric intake comes from carbs (plants & honey). the point is that Anti-Carb Hysteria, Fear-Mongering & Fanaticism is silly.
Fung was also my first exposure to keto/fasting with "The Diabetes Code". It changed my life and I'll always be so grateful that he does what he does. But I've also been glad to find people like Eric that I also trust, and can do things like this reaction video to get even more nuanced things discussed. For those familiar enough with both, you clearly know they're 98% "on the same page".
If you watch other interviews or presentations by Dr. Fung, you will know that he supports good healthy food with no snacking between meals. It just makes sense to allow your body to deal with whatever food you have ingested, before you eat again. Giving yourself time to rest, and your cells to do some "housecleaning" (or autophagy if you are geekish) . If you are eating every 3 hours, your body never gets the chance to do this. As a doctor intimately involved with type two diabetic issues, he is naturally in favour of cutting out the sugars.
This needs to be put in the CLINICAL context of how Dr Fung developed his method. His clinic went with IF rather than relying keto because of the catchment population. Dealing with many immigrants and low income patients, the patients found the prospect of fasting more acceptable than not eating their culturally appropriate foods. For those who were happy to eat low carb when they did eat, they got better results. Those who practiced THERAPEUTIC fasting but didnt change what they ate, still got acceptable results.
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 they've been doing this a long time now. I think they're both valid methods, with different folks tolerating different approaches.
Jason Fung did good for his patients. I ❤ to hear how he tried to help them via diet. Fasting was a revelation for both him & his patients. Hallelujah 🙏
Megan Ramos did a podcast about which is better: fasting or diet. And, exactly for the reasons you mention, including also not having access to low carb foods due to being in a care facility of some sort, they started with fasting and had wonderful results. She believes, wholeheartedly, that for an insulin resistant population, fasting is the first and most powerful thing to try. BUT she also said that diet is important, and if you want to heal as much as possible, combining the two is ideal.
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 Erm ... no! If you fast for a long time, like the person doing a full year without food, you need to take supplements. The usual fasts nowadays ranging from 16 hours to a few days do not cause any deficiencies. And what toxins do you expect from no intake of food or calorific liquids? Our bodies do not usually produce toxic metabolites they cannot deal with, as long as adaquate fluid intake is maintained. Even with long fasts of weeks and months, an accumulation of toxic metabolic products is not an issue. There is not a single study that shows any "toxicities" from fasting. Feel free to link one if you know one.
I was hesitant to watch this video and resisted the temptation to shut it off. Although there was no attack on Dr Fung too many comments were taken out of the over all context of what Dr Fung proposes over and over in his videos. Dr Fung changed my life and was the first trusted resource of valuable low carb intermittent fasting information.
Don't forget Dr. Westman was critiquing this video. It was over an hour long. I love dr Fung but he could have mentioned how powerful intermittent fasting is for those on medication as he always says to work with your doctor if on medications and as he always encourages low carb/keto in other videos and his books, he could have mentioned that as well. 2 sentences would have made this interview much better. I'm a huge Dr. Fung and Dr. Westman fan. Great work is being done by these two.
I agree completely. I feel it is a bit unfair to criticize Dr. Fung just because the words "ketogenic diet" don't fall from his lips in every sentence. I believe that Dr. Fung's message is "eat good quality, low sugar foods, but only once or twice a day, no snacks". Nothing wrong or unhealthy about that.
Dr Fung does recommends keto and fasting. My understanding that most of his patients do alternate day fasting. He does says he does have patients that won't go on Keto but the fasting even works with the SAD diet, but just not as well.
I've followed Dr Fung's program for a time, and I have to point out : He doesn't just recommend fasting. His program is fasting combined with eating a low-carb to keto diet. They are actually a powerful combination because it's much easier to fast when you are already fat-adapted thanks to eating keto. And conversely, doing like a 36h fast can help you get fat-adapted more quickly ( but that can really suck though). Today, I just use it as a practical solution : having fasted in the past over 36h in the past, I know that I can go that long without food without any problems. So that if I'm on the road, at a conference or some other situation where I can't at least eat keto, I don't have to worry. In that sense, it's a powerful and simple tool to have at your disposal
Jason Fung was the Doctor who started me out on my health journey 2 1/2 years ago. Great at explaining stuff and really practical. He also promotes low carb / keto on other videos. I understand that insulin in the blood helps glucose into cells, converts excess glucose into glycogen and prevents fat burning. Therefore when you don’t have insulin in your blood ie fasting, means you must burning fats. When you are on keto every time you eat you will still raise some insulin….. I’m still intermittent fasting and on keto / carnivore. Great way to go!👍👍👍
Thank you. I appreciate videos where a professional in the same space politely critiques another professional. It helps me to learn how to listen more carefully.
My top 2 docs are Dr Westman and Dr Fung. Both complement each other and it works. One important benefit to fasting is autophagy which is huge. Clean those baddies out of you. When you open your window make sure it’s low carb, keto or ketovore and your body will be happy. Mine certainly is. Oh and don’t forget to exercise.❤
What works best for me is doing longer 36 and 48 hour fasts and then eating low carb in between fasting. I've lost over 20 pounds in a month so far and saved so much money.
Thank you, Dr. Westman! I love Dr. Fung, he has a wonderful way of getting his message across in a entertaining way. I love you, too, Dr. Westman and I learn much from you. I do intermittent fasting AND I am very low carb!
After doing the ketogenic diet and intermitten fasting for 2 years, I would say the combination of food is the foremost concern, and then the timing and the duration of fasting would come naturally. The high fat with adequate protein would determine when I will have the next meal. Carbs just make me feel hungry earlier, which mean my duration of my fasting shorter.
I've seen LOTS of videos with interviews with Dr Fung and he DEFINITELY advocates for low carb, keto, etc❤ Maybe check out the info from his books, as this one video is not all inclusive of what he espouses❤
I didnt find this video of Dr.Fung confusing at all and its really helpful. Also fasting doesnt merely help to lose fat and if done longer ones will induce autophagy. Dr Fung does emphasize on protein being the building blocks of body in other videos a lot.
I consider IF as a tool in the keto/carnivore tool kit, like resistance and HIIT exercise. The diet quells hunger, and the tools strengthen the ketosis and accelerate the fat burning.
My intermittent fasting has helped with arthritis in my hands. I am not sure if it is the fasting, or the cutting down on bread, or a combination of both. I still eat bread (I love to make my own), but not everyday.
Interesting to listen to 2 doctors I admire having different positions on fasting. I have fasted twice. The first time was for 28 hours in which I experienced near euphoric spiritual feelings and mentally sharp. I wasn't hungry and felt I could have continued for longer. The second time was different. It was for 42 hours and I felt like crap at the end. On breaking the fast with a light refreshment I felt completely normal within a few minutes.
He's using autophagy which does work in a "self-cleaning way". I used it to help during my adaptation to a keto diet. Worked very nicely. Autophagy removes damaged cells and you can simply do this overnight while you sleep, and you rely upon ketone bodies made from your body fat. Since I was not taking meds, nor a diabetic, it was perfectly safe. All that is needed is no snacking ever and skipping breakfast - doing OMAD. And this pattern fits into today's commuting lifestyle. You have your black coffee on your way out the door in the morning, no snacking at work, and then you have a nice ketogenic lunch. This is how one adapts more easily to keto, trains yourself to not snacking and since you're on the job you don't have to endure people nagging you to eat a "balanced diet". Eat only what is "essential for life" which are meat and fat. No carbs, all of them. KETO 18/6 +A is my method.
I agree. I exercise in the morning and the thought of getting up and exercising for 1.5 hours without eating a cup of yogurt and walnuts means that I would not get up at all. I prefer to eat my last meal when the workday is done, not in the middle of the day, so I rarely can go more than 13 hours per day fasting. That is good enough for me. I also still eat some carbs and I admit to even eating ice cream and some cookies. However, I do not make a habit of it and I do not need to lose weight. I would like to put on more muscle, but according to a recent CAT scan, I do not have viseral fat. I may still have some fat in my liver and pancreas, and some day I may ask for a scan to determine how much fat is in my liver and pancreas, but according to what Dr. Robert Lustig has said about blood work, it is unlikely that I have non-alcoholic liver disease.
Maybe add electrolytes to your water to improve hydration at a cellular level. Monitor blood sugars if you fast. Start by fasting overnight, like 12 hours at first. Get quality sleep. A reason you may feel poorly could be your cortisol levels are off, or you aren’t properly hydrated, sleep isn’t restorative, menopause?, hormones aren’t optimal… You could more gradually adapt, as fasting too soon and too long before adapting without adjusting the diet, with likely affect how your body responds. Later you can delay breakfast by 1 hour, or have supper an hour earlier.
Not rly I lost 55# and prob walked 3-5x in 6 mos lol lifted zero I’ve lifted and lost zero, simply got muscles under my fat It’s more IR than anything Unless ur like 25
Telling people to not eat carbs leaves the vegans and vegetarians behind. That's basically all of India. Dr Fung is proposing something that we can all do, no diet wars needed. Dr Fung doesn't want people to reject fasting if they are vegan, etc. If you listen to his Fasting Method, they advocate low carb. If you eat keto all day long, it does not work for many of us. Fasting long enough does actually work but the best is both together. On a 36 hour fast now.
@@mariad1151 I am European, German to be precise, and have spent tme in other European countries. Most of us do eat animal products, low carb and keto are not a problem if people wish to change their diet. Vegan and vegetarians are only a small proportion of the European population. Buy yourself some cookbooks on French and Italian cusine and see how wrong you are.
@@brigittegoretzky9757 French are known for baguette & croissants. Italians for pizza & pasta. Asian & African cultures subsist on rice & grains. Enlighten yourself & cultivate a little social grace, too.
@@mariad1151 Do you really think baguette and croissant is all the French eat? Never heard of Coq au vin or Bäckeroffe? Beef bourguignon? Bouillabaisse? How about the various ragus in Italy? Saltimbocca alla Romana? Osso bucco? Calamarata? No? Nothing? I guess you are American and all you know is the junk food you get sold as "typical" but you really have no clue about the fantastic food you can find around Europe.
@@brigittegoretzky9757 Your post is not only arrogant, it's ignorant as well. I leave you to it. You don't know the value of bread, pasta, pierogi, pastry, & rice to the world's food supply. The only convincing point you've made is that you're argumentative and rude.
I lost 30 lbs using Dr Fung's plan coupled with carbs under 50 g/day. When I dropped carbs lower, and switched to Ketovore/Carnivore last August, I felt physically better, but have gained 5 lbs and have not lost inches. Fasting, which used to be easy for me, no longer works because I get really hungry...for my animal based foods. I believe, for me, Dr Fung's approach was much more effective. 24 or 36 hour fasts, 3 times a week
Prepare your body by eating no carbs for at least 24 hours before your fast and you will find the experience much easier. Even better is two days of no carbs.
I want to do a 3-day fast but every time I get to the 24-hour Mark I cave and eat something. I am carnivore but I've only been dieting and fasting for about a month.
@@acwhit1593 Wait a while a little longer to ensure you are first fat adapted, then the fast will be of more benefit to you. Don't dry fast; take electrolytes.
My understanding is that Dr. Fung initially wanted to convince his patients to eat a low carb diet, but he evidently ran into some resistance from his patients, so he settled on fasting instead because that also keeps insulin from spiking. I was inspired to try fasting and my 24-hour fasts were ok, but he said that people didn't end up gaining weight back afterward and I ALWAYS did. The worst was when I fasted for 3 full days and gained the weight back IN A DAY!!! So discouraging. Dr. Fung's plan is also to eat 2 meals per day every other day, and fast completely the days in between. He says that you won't lose muscle because your body isn't "stupid," but I've since researched the importance of protein, and now I refuse to fast because I don't want to lose muscle as I age. Honestly, eating keto is a hell of a lot easier than eating NOTHING!
Then just don’t snack between meals, and fast overnight, from after an earlier supper, to a later brunch. Eat the right amount of protein grams for your height, build, gender. Avoid processed seed oils; healthy fats instead. There are no Essential carbohydrates. Walk comfortably after meals to improve Insulin sensitivity. Get the best recuperative sleep you can get. Reduces stressors in your life. Don’t get cellularly dehydrated. Test full thyroid panel. Test Vitamin D panel. Test Iron/B12 panel. Some meds are known to affect metabolism.
If his patients resist his medical advice, that's their prerogative and their folly. I would only offer fasting as a poor substitute to going low-carb, and persist on recommending that diet to truly expect improvement..
Am really glad I saw this video now as I was just yesterday warned about fasting and starvation mode and my body would gain weight. I am now on my 170 hours fast in my target journey of 500 hours fast to try to break a weight stall I’ve been stuck with for the last 6 months. So this video came in perfect timing 🙏🏻 thank you. Am on day 7 of 21 days plan and so far so good as long as I keep myself occupied and busy am not thinking of food. I think it’s all in the brain 🧠 😅
Thank you Dr Westman, you really helped clarify a lot of things for me. Dr Fung was one of the 1st doctors I came across in my search for a healthier lifestyle, and now I can see that intermittent fasting may become an automatic function brought on by a keto/carnivore lifestyle. ✅️
For older women, vast majority Needs fasting Pointblank It’s sucky in our culture but it’s reality Also -it takes a looooong time of severe carb restriction (w/high fat) and IF/EF before seeing things even start to shift It’s rare for the person to tolerate this in our culture. It’s HARD and for no gain (fat loss). So they give up. I’m talking 6 mos till fat loss rly starts kicking in - like the 25yo did in week 3 lol Support network is absolutely KEY or ur going to lose in the fat loss game
Dr Elizabeth Bright says the exact opposite! Older women who fast spike Cortisol, which puts on belly fat. We (I’m 73) can lose fat by eating mostly fats and protein, minimal carbs, and by working out with weights sufficiently to build some muscle (which burns fat while you sleep). This is absolutely sustainable once you take your own health seriously and realize how terrible the alternatives can be. And any woman who can’t make up her mind to eat healthily and needs a ton of “support” is weak-willed. In the words of Neicey Nash, “Take a big girl pill!”
@@margomoore4527 Not everyone is the same and some people have more discipline and drive than others. Carb addiction is real, but I think that much more of carb addiction is psychological. I know a lot of overweight women who are not happy. The people that they loved have died or moved on with their own children and do not have much time to spend with their mothers. For women who never had careers and who centered their lives around their children, empty nest syndrome and losing their husband and many of their friends leaves them with little but food and TV. Take away the comfort foods and what do these people have left? Quite a lot if they are willing to change their lives and develop other interests, but that is difficult if you do not have the habit of doing so for the last thirty or forty years.
Dr. Fung’s back story is that he prescribed a low carb/ketogenic diet to his patients. In follow up visits, his patients would not show any improvement of their diabetes numbers. He would ask if they cut out the carbs, and they would lie and not mention that they are still eating rice. Most of his patients are Asian, F they could not get the rice out of their diet because of their culture relies on rice. So he asked them to skip a meal or two (do intermittent fasting). His patients could do that if they could still eat rice, and they began to have improvement in their diabetes markers. That was the start of his concentrating on intermittent fasting.
Ok, have you considered Dr. Fung’s patient population? It may be that it is difficult for Dr. Fung to get his patients to quit rice. Dr. Westman, you always say you have to deal with patients as they come to you. Therefore, the fasting Dr. Fung suggests is a good way to overcome this issue.
Someone I was listening to made the comment that hunger was the signal to go hunt for food. People in the wild would then have to go work for it in many/most cases and it might take a while to finally eat. Personally, I like to intermittently feast, which is a phrase several people are now using and I think it fits well. I don't look at it as fasting if you are only eating when the body says you are hungry, go find food. I have seen people who have eaten whatever they want, once a day, and lost weight. I wouldn't do that. I do believe it is not just about losing weight, it is about losing unwanted fat and also still getting complete nutrition. I also find I don't like fasting much on low/no carb. However, every once in a while I just feel like not eating for a day or two and typically just follow my body cues. Fiber is an interesting topic. I see no reason to eat fiber and have not heard any convincing argument that make me believe you need to eat any. I don't, and so far ( 3.5 years ) no issues that I know of. Of course, I don't eat carbs either, so not really worried about slowing down sugar digestion. Funny that eating protein goes to eating only protein. Protein and fat come together, what a shock. Eat the food as it comes in nature. Carbs and fiber are not essential, pretty much says we evolved eating mostly protein and fat and would have only had what nature provided. Carbs would have been very limited, and still are today in come places. Doesn't mean we cannot eat them, we just wouldn't often and that allows us to handle doses every so often. We also need to have insulin rise every so often. Too many people are afraid of insulin. Don't raise it by artificially eating carbs that we don't need to eat, let the body make what it needs from the protein you eat and the fat you store.
Some people wont or cant do keto or carnivore or give up all carbs and sugar. To be fair to the Fungster he must be doing things that encourage the hard to get to folks who have gone over that line to Diabetes and all its ill effects. I do fasting the most was a five day. It makes you realise your not going to die if you dont have food every day. I think Dr Fung and Dr Westman are doing a great job. Neither are promoting calories in out shake it all about mantra.😂
Jason Fung was who I discovered when looking up how to cure my fatty liver. Jason makes perfect sense. So I discovered intermittent fasting and the carnivore diet at the same time and started them almost immediately. I am seeing immediate results and am finding IF surprisingly easy. Within 2 weeks I have done 15 or more hours every day and sailed through a 40 hour fast as well. Now I'm planning on trying to do a 2 day fast every weekend.
I love your videos Dr. Westman but your audio balance in this video is out of whack. I have to turn the video up to hear you and then your shown clips are louder than you are.
Please do a video on what to while sticking to a Keto diet and NEVER feeling hungry. I get really light-headed and maybe even a little dizzy before I realize I haven't eaten in hours. Thanks.
About 2 1/2 years ago when I got covid the first time, I didn’t realized how sick I was and fasted for over 40 days. Someone took me to a hospital where I started to recover. But my weight went from 185 to 167 (approximately) but the fasting didn’t hurt me any.
Wow, I just found you on TH-cam and was liking and agree with your perspective until today. Dr Fung tells why in his book, The Obesity Code. Maybe you should read it and maybe you should take his interviews as a whole when commentating his interviews. The “I think” or “I don’t believe “ doesn’t show your watchers proof, only your opinion. Intermittent fasting along with a low carb diet is what Fung teaches and what works.
IF it's a great tool. It would take willpower while eating a high carb diet. While on the contrary, eating minimal carb, you're not hungry. For me, while eating keto, IF just comes naturally.
Dr Fung's audience is: humans NOT on keto. He's trying to explain to the 'layman' what's going on in the body. (Carbs = sugar) Once a diabetic grasps this 'concepts, life gets easier.
I've watched a lot of Diary of a CEO videos. He's been very interested in low carb eating lately, but he also entertains vegan influencers. No doubt in my mind, Fung was either cautioned against spending too much time on what you eat and focus only the fasting element, or that was edited out. Before I started low carb eating I watched a lot of Fung's videos and was doing IF while still eating plants and sugar and it was helpful. So, this little seed is very good. Recently, my hopelessly sugar addicted t2d relative decided he was going to do intermittent fasting. I have no idea if he still is doing that or not, but something put that seed in his mind. He even recently said to me that my diet was working better than his (he follows standard of care from a vegetarian doctor). So I'm just not offering any more information and will let him follow the path and pray it gets him to the low carb lifestyle.
I myself needed to weight way back in 1989 and heard dieting would not work for long term. Weight loss and simply thought to myself if I limited my eating snacks between meals,cut out sugary drinks (cola,fruit juices)and once I did that with gapping between my eating...and surprised everyone I knew by losing weight and keeping it off for years
What is not stated is that a person should not fast long time cold turkey. The body needs to be trained to fat adaptation for smoother fasting periods. I do typically fast 18 / 6 but am reconsidering this. I am nearly at my goal and may go to 3mad keto and maintain as needed with the occasional fast. I also have strict fasting period through the Orthodox Church including many Saturday evenings, Advent, Lent and 2 weeks in July / August. When visiting very close friends in Malaysia over Ramadan, I also respect them by joining in the daily fast.
I have been researching both vegan and carnivore diets in recent months and have come to the conclusion that both can work depending on the person. It’s the elimination of sugar and junk foods that convey most of the benefits. I thought I would share one of my observations though from watching hundreds of videos from both communities: The carnivore community videos tend to have hundreds if not thousands of people sharing their experiences on carnivore which are 99.99% very positive. It’s often difficult to find even a single example where some had a bad experience on it. I would say at least 90% say it cleared up an array of illnesses and people feel amazing on it. These comments rarely mention vegans or a vegan style of eating. It is rare to find a case of someone who ate carnivore and switched to vegan and said they feel better or that it was the best thing they ever did. The vegan community is littered with people castigating meat eaters and dismissing carnivore, often with a smug or hateful attitude. I understand that many people have an idealogical aversion to killing animals. It is quite common to find people who were ill on vegan and cured themselves when they switched to carnivore. Of course there are a majority that also feel great on vegan too. I notice that it is overwhelmingly the Vegan community that spreads FUD. It is then those same “experts” that seek to sell you you on all kinds of potions, supplements and procedures. My spidey senses are tingling. In my life experience when someone hits me with FUD and then offers a solution which I need to pay for it is usually BS. Let me give you one of hundreds of examples of this. I watched a carni video talking about SIBO, they said the vast majority of people see improvement within 2 weeks of a meat based, zero card diet. They tried to see me nothing. Then I saw the vegan community discussing this. They said it needed to be analyzed via a stool sample and then promoted a $250 stool analysis service. I see this pattern again and again and again. Like I said, I think both diets have their benefits but do your research folks and question those spreading FUD and selling you stuff as a supposed panacea.
Dr. Fung explained that he older people from different cultures and trying to get them to do any of these special diets, or even understand them was almost impossible, but everyone can understand intermittent fasting. And just giving that time allows the liver to pull out the glycogen. And he is absolutely right about lowering metabolic rate. He absolutely does show data about results with intermittent fasting. Right now, I am doing both, but to be honest, eating keto is hard and very hard t9 continue forever..intermittent fasting is much easier
What about this study? Date: March 20, 2024 Source: American Heart Association Summary: A study of over 20,000 adults found that those who followed an 8-hour time-restricted eating schedule, a type of intermittent fasting, had a 91% higher risk of death from cardiovascular disease.
I just wanted to say that I have been intermittent fasting now for about 7 months and have lost over 6 stone in weight. When I do eat witch I have restricted to a 6 hour eating window I do eat high carb foods for example I will have one bowl of cearl twice in that window then fast and then another day I will have a nice sandwich once that day and fast . I know this is in your opinion bad but it seems to work for me . I would try a keto diet but the foods that say they are keto friendly all seems to be either pricy or ridiculously expensive and as a person on a very low budget I have to stick to what I can afford . I think a lot of the videos not just yours about keto do not take in to account people on low incomes enough . But with that said I do enjoy your videos and find the way you explain details very easy to understand.
I don't feel like this particular video is a good example of Dr. Fung's work. This is the first video that I have seen of his that doesn't say that IF should be done with a ketogenic diet.
I have been on keto for more than 6 months and quickly lost 30 lbs. I am a 73 year old male but my problem is my belly fat. It will not budge and I am very serious about my keto but I honestly think my metabolism has slowed to the point nothing is happening. Watched lots of videos but none seem to help.
I watched dr fungs same video last week and it did change my mind back to fasting and then while i was about to change i watched your video (perfect timing) which stopped me from adding fasting like years back. I do prefer to lift weight and have 3 meals a day. Two smalller ones and a big meal. It would be nice if you could do a video about when it would be beneficial to limit the greens and when to increase the fats which are now limited in your book.
Thanks for reminding me about Jason Fung. I went OMAD carnivore and have lost 100 lbs. but I have plateaued still in the class 2 obese weight range. I doubt my workout gains is enough to explain the plateau, especially since my waist circumference is staying constant. The only thing I can think to do is to try longer fasts.
I am in the same situation. Fasting more isn't working either. I think I am going to add more protein spread out in 3 meals and also increasing my activity levels.
Does the “answer” then not lie in a moderate and sustainable combination or low carb and intermittent fasting? Fasting may be “natural” if indeed you don’t wake up hungry … and not being hungry is the result of low carb diets … a natural state through which we evolved. Break the “habit” of eating and replace it with “necessity” of eating.
I’m a little confused about Dr Fung saying protein mixed with fat is problematic? Why? It’s completely natural and whole. He seems to be saying eat chicken because it’s low in fat. Is that for weight loss or is that for health? Is he saying animal fat is bad for you? And is he a proponent of fiber (whole grain what) ? Because I know we don’t need fiber if we don’t want it in the context of a low carb diet. Surely if you are not low carb the fiber could have a benefit but if you are in ketosis I don’t think fiber is necessary not a nanogram. And I still don’t understand why he holds the 70s up as the ideal decade. That is the decade I did some of the most damage to myself; Twinkie’s, grape soda by the 12 pack, chocolate bars and Rice Crispys for breakfast with a mound of sugar poured on top. Had to be disastrous for my 10 year old brain. I know I only survived because I was a high level Athlete. Paying for it now tho. Note: I was suicidal at 11 even went to therapy. Look up Dr Georgia Ede if you want to know the truth, include Dr Chris Palmer while your at it
More popular platforms like Fast, Feast, Repeat (not clinical based) have thousands of case reports of people who dont (initially) change what they eat. Apparently some folks (especially those who're OVER dietary restriction after many years of failure) respond to changing WHEN they eat rather than WHAT they eat.
Yup - I started with IF - trying to get my 6/7 meals a day and loads of portions of fruit and veg down to eating 2 meals a day - took a while and was quite uncomfortable until I adapted. Now quite happy with 72 hr fasts
I tried intermittent fasting, but I could not stick to it without dropping carbs first, and I could drop carbs only by replacing them with butter and even them it took a few months of trying and failing ... mostly because I like potatoes and beans and cheese cake too much :)
Seems like he was trying to appeal to the masses rather than just the low carb/keto people that he has been talking to for years. Unusual though that he didn't talk about Keto/low carb at all because Steven has done Keto himself before.
To fast before or after surgery and before a blood test is totally different than fasting for several days consistently. You would think that a physician could see the difference. While someone who is extremely overweight can fast for two or three days safely, it may be very dangerous for someone who is only slightly overweight. I doubt that most people who go through multiple famines would advocate that for others.
People who are habitually in famines are very unlikely to be suffering the western metabolic problems that we have here... there is a big difference...
I am a type 2 diabetic. When I don’t fast. My blood sugar is almost always 130 and if I fast k go down to mid 50’s and feel like I’ll pass out. I can’t seem to find a good way to drop weight and not be extreme high or low numbers
You Go Dr. Westman!!! Shout it from the rooftops: Protein is for immunity and all other body processes & we don't need carbs!!! Wish someone had said that 20 years ago!!! (Was told the lie about Dr. Atkin's death..feared protein and fat!)
@@T-aka-T TY I appreciate that information! I think that's how the channel makes $$--from commercials. Think it's based on # of views. Think the channel owner gets to say where & how many commercials they will allow. Dr. Boz, for example, had one of her videos demonetized bc covid content. She lost $$ bc of it. It's how some make a living.
Dr. Westman, some feedback: The audio of you speaking is so low compared to the clips you show of Dr. Fung. I have to turn the volume way up to hear you speak and then when he comes on he's practically screaming at me. Please consider mitigating this in future videos. Please and thank you.
When I had an elevated A1C my family doctor advised me to eat more meat and less carbs and I could be a member of the Bacon lovers club. My renal doctor advised me to limit Protein and cease Creatine monohydrate. I have simply avoided Ultraprocessed foods, miss donuts and ice cream. Labs all good including renal panel. Simple, high protein Mediterranean/Dash diet with limited carbs. Fung Mumbo Jumbo. 🙏🏻👹🏋🏻🏊♀️
My question Is if u r eating fat though u r burning the dietary fat so when does the body fat start burning?? Also don’t u lose lean muscle if u do longer fasting without protein intake
Yes and it's called Low Carb diet! I'm sorry to disagree Dr. Westman. But. Protein comes second for me... I need huge amounts of fat to support my energy, sleep, hormones, etc...
I skip breakfast, have a super carnivorous lunch and in the evening just a banana or some papaya or berries. I never fast for longer because I enjoy the feeling of being hungry after 3 days and then I don't want to eat anything at all. that is dangerous for me
Dr Fung is very carefull in instructing his followers on his TH-cam channel. But the host here is asking him questions and he provides the answers. The parts you show are out of the context of the rest of the whole interview. Intermittent fasting is what we did since our species started their existance. Your’re right however that people should take care going back to that regime if already taking medicine for their bad lifestyle…
Very true, and many of our species died of starvation. If you could go back in time and ask early humans whether they would prefer to eat every day and have enough food to eat more than once a day, they would look at you as if you were crazy. Starvation was a reality then in a way that is fortunately rarely true today. Today many poor people eat food that may not be nutritious but empty junk food or a bowl of rice, but unless there is a famine or natural disaster, most humans have something to eat each day. People may be hungry today if they are eating junk and a lot of carb, but they are not typically at the brink of starvation except in countries that have wars, famines, and natural disasters or criminal dictators who hoard everything for themselves. That is a huge change in what most humans faced early in our development as a species.
I dare anyone to fast on a high carb diet, IMHO it's torture. No carb + fasting = easy peasey. If your hunger signals aren't working, eat when your hungry is problematic.
I think that almost all overweight and/or obese people are malnourished. If I am correct, fasting can actually be dangerous. I do think that if you eat enough nutrient dense food, you can fast, but it shouldn't be extended. So yes. I do think that obese people should actually eat more. Eat more nutrient dense food and eat less nutrient deficient food.
You are spot on. what do people who have a "beer belly" and people starving to death have in common. Look at the pictures. Same belly distension. Hmmm...
Angus Barbieri consumed nothing but vitamins and zero-calorie beverages for over a year while on history’s longest fast - which helped him lose 276 pounds over 382 days!
Here is a simple tried and true way to lose belly fat: eat healthy , cut out the junk fake food, do simple exercises daily (like pull ups, push ups walking) and Fast twice a week. If you eat three meals a day cut it down to 2 or 1.5. Cutting out alcohol is also recommended. Its done wonders for me. Lately ive been looking in the mirror with amazement and thanking God 🙏🏻☦️
To be fair, in another video Dr. Fung mentioned that a ketogenic diet results in 71% the benefit of fasting, so adding intermittent fasting in whatever form is an added benefit. He described keto and fasting as "cousins."
Dr. Jason Fung is one of the first doctors I came across when I started my weight loss journey and he really made me realize that you cannot continually eat …I am at a 30 pound weight loss and maintaining that for the past three years and finding him really changed my life.
Same for me. IF was a game changer.
Dr Fung's youtube videos on OMAD, intermittent fasting and longer periods of fasting were so helpful to me on my keto and carnivore journey.
To be fair. Dr. Fung does encourage a low carb diet among his patients.
It’s in both the Obesity Code and the Diabetic Code.
He says keto makes fasting easier. I love that he laughs everything he says low carb muffin like it's an oxymoron.
I have just under 70 pounds to lose. I doing high protein moderate fat low carb alternate day fasting. So it's a Dr. Westman - Dr Fung combo. Skipping some meals allows me to afford rib eyes on a regular basis. Weight loss is steady, meals are enjoyable, and while my stomach may growl on fasting days, I don't get the shakes or light-headed anymore. I love your reaction videos.
Exactly what I thought: using low carb you do not feel so hungry and don't feel so hungry when fasting. Another benefit if you're carnivore is that it makes it so much cheaper!
Dr. Fung was the first person I learned from about my diabetes. I read the Diabetes Code and haven't looked back. There are others who can describe various facets of diabetes control in deeper detail, but he has is all right.
I see it fairly simply. If I never eat protein I will die. If I never eat fat, I will die. If I never eat carbs, I will be fine. There is NO HUMAN NEED FOR CARBOHYDRATES. When I eat keto, I am not hungry in the morning, so I eat later; voila! Intermittent Fasting.
@ElleCayote
Wow! Incredibly well said!!! Excellent video & as always, so appreciated & greatly valuable. I love and admire both Dr. Fung & Dr. Westman. Meat on! Heal on! Fast on! 🦀🐟🥓 🦐🦞🧈🍳🍗🍖🥩
go TELL THE HADZA. those poor things eat carbs. please help them!
@@chuckleezodiac24 Should probably read the statement a little slower and digest it further.
@@chuckleezodiac24 That is a somewhat superfluous point. They do get carbs from milk but they are not over consuming carbs.
@@trail.blazer it varies seasonally but about 50% of the Hadza's caloric intake comes from carbs (plants & honey).
the point is that Anti-Carb Hysteria, Fear-Mongering & Fanaticism is silly.
Fung was also my first exposure to keto/fasting with "The Diabetes Code". It changed my life and I'll always be so grateful that he does what he does. But I've also been glad to find people like Eric that I also trust, and can do things like this reaction video to get even more nuanced things discussed. For those familiar enough with both, you clearly know they're 98% "on the same page".
It should be one of those that is immoral to do - making people eat seed oils! 😁
If you watch other interviews or presentations by Dr. Fung, you will know that he supports good healthy food with no snacking between meals. It just makes sense to allow your body to deal with whatever food you have ingested, before you eat again. Giving yourself time to rest, and your cells to do some "housecleaning" (or autophagy if you are geekish) . If you are eating every 3 hours, your body never gets the chance to do this. As a doctor intimately involved with type two diabetic issues, he is naturally in favour of cutting out the sugars.
This needs to be put in the CLINICAL context of how Dr Fung developed his method. His clinic went with IF rather than relying keto because of the catchment population. Dealing with many immigrants and low income patients, the patients found the prospect of fasting more acceptable than not eating their culturally appropriate foods. For those who were happy to eat low carb when they did eat, they got better results. Those who practiced THERAPEUTIC fasting but didnt change what they ate, still got acceptable results.
Yes, but the latter leads to deficiencies and toxicities that the former will not.
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 they've been doing this a long time now. I think they're both valid methods, with different folks tolerating different approaches.
Jason Fung did good for his patients. I ❤ to hear how he tried to help them via diet. Fasting was a revelation for both him & his patients. Hallelujah 🙏
Megan Ramos did a podcast about which is better: fasting or diet. And, exactly for the reasons you mention, including also not having access to low carb foods due to being in a care facility of some sort, they started with fasting and had wonderful results. She believes, wholeheartedly, that for an insulin resistant population, fasting is the first and most powerful thing to try. BUT she also said that diet is important, and if you want to heal as much as possible, combining the two is ideal.
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 Erm ... no!
If you fast for a long time, like the person doing a full year without food, you need to take supplements. The usual fasts nowadays ranging from 16 hours to a few days do not cause any deficiencies. And what toxins do you expect from no intake of food or calorific liquids? Our bodies do not usually produce toxic metabolites they cannot deal with, as long as adaquate fluid intake is maintained. Even with long fasts of weeks and months, an accumulation of toxic metabolic products is not an issue.
There is not a single study that shows any "toxicities" from fasting. Feel free to link one if you know one.
I was hesitant to watch this video and resisted the temptation to shut it off. Although there was no attack on Dr Fung too many comments were taken out of the over all context of what Dr Fung proposes over and over in his videos. Dr Fung changed my life and was the first trusted resource of valuable low carb intermittent fasting information.
I found this response surprisingly critical, myself. Perhaps the interview didn't showcase Dr. Fung's full strategy very well.
Don't forget Dr. Westman was critiquing this video. It was over an hour long. I love dr
Fung but he could have mentioned how powerful intermittent fasting is for those on medication as he always says to work with your doctor if on medications and as he always encourages low carb/keto in other videos and his books, he could have mentioned that as well. 2 sentences would have made this interview much better. I'm a huge Dr. Fung and Dr. Westman fan. Great work is being done by these two.
I agree completely. I feel it is a bit unfair to criticize Dr. Fung just because the words "ketogenic diet" don't fall from his lips in every sentence. I believe that Dr. Fung's message is "eat good quality, low sugar foods, but only once or twice a day, no snacks". Nothing wrong or unhealthy about that.
Dr Fung does recommends keto and fasting. My understanding that most of his patients do alternate day fasting. He does says he does have patients that won't go on Keto but the fasting even works with the SAD diet, but just not as well.
I've followed Dr Fung's program for a time, and I have to point out : He doesn't just recommend fasting. His program is fasting combined with eating a low-carb to keto diet.
They are actually a powerful combination because it's much easier to fast when you are already fat-adapted thanks to eating keto. And conversely, doing like a 36h fast can help you get fat-adapted more quickly ( but that can really suck though).
Today, I just use it as a practical solution : having fasted in the past over 36h in the past, I know that I can go that long without food without any problems. So that if I'm on the road, at a conference or some other situation where I can't at least eat keto, I don't have to worry. In that sense, it's a powerful and simple tool to have at your disposal
Fasting + low carb + exercise = God mode.
Amen!!! 👍
Fasting + meat + animal fat - all carbs = healed
Buddha mode.
Jason Fung was the Doctor who started me out on my health journey 2 1/2 years ago. Great at explaining stuff and really practical. He also promotes low carb / keto on other videos. I understand that insulin in the blood helps glucose into cells, converts excess glucose into glycogen and prevents fat burning. Therefore when you don’t have insulin in your blood ie fasting, means you must burning fats. When you are on keto every time you eat you will still raise some insulin…..
I’m still intermittent fasting and on keto / carnivore. Great way to go!👍👍👍
Thank you. I appreciate videos where a professional in the same space politely critiques another professional. It helps me to learn how to listen more carefully.
Absolutely. I like how Dr. Westman presents his views and highlights where they differ from Dr. Fung. Very thought provoking.
My top 2 docs are Dr Westman and Dr Fung. Both complement each other and it works. One important benefit to fasting is autophagy which is huge. Clean those baddies out of you. When you open your window make sure it’s low carb, keto or ketovore and your body will be happy. Mine certainly is. Oh and don’t forget to exercise.❤
What works best for me is doing longer 36 and 48 hour fasts and then eating low carb in between fasting. I've lost over 20 pounds in a month so far and saved so much money.
Thank you, Dr. Westman! I love Dr. Fung, he has a wonderful way of getting his message across in a entertaining way. I love you, too, Dr. Westman and I learn much from you. I do intermittent fasting AND I am very low carb!
After doing the ketogenic diet and intermitten fasting for 2 years, I would say the combination of food is the foremost concern, and then the timing and the duration of fasting would come naturally. The high fat with adequate protein would determine when I will have the next meal. Carbs just make me feel hungry earlier, which mean my duration of my fasting shorter.
I've seen LOTS of videos with interviews with Dr Fung and he DEFINITELY advocates for low carb, keto, etc❤ Maybe check out the info from his books, as this one video is not all inclusive of what he espouses❤
I didnt find this video of Dr.Fung confusing at all and its really helpful. Also fasting doesnt merely help to lose fat and if done longer ones will induce autophagy. Dr Fung does emphasize on protein being the building blocks of body in other videos a lot.
Dr. Fung's video are very helpful. He also still treats patients at his clinic
I consider IF as a tool in the keto/carnivore tool kit, like resistance and HIIT exercise. The diet quells hunger, and the tools strengthen the ketosis and accelerate the fat burning.
I don''t know why but for me fasting reduces my inflammation from my auto disease like no other. Avoid carbs does help but not on the same level.
My intermittent fasting has helped with arthritis in my hands. I am not sure if it is the fasting, or the cutting down on bread, or a combination of both. I still eat bread (I love to make my own), but not everyday.
Interesting to listen to 2 doctors I admire having different positions on fasting. I have fasted twice. The first time was for 28 hours in which I experienced near euphoric spiritual feelings and mentally sharp. I wasn't hungry and felt I could have continued for longer. The second time was different. It was for 42 hours and I felt like crap at the end. On breaking the fast with a light refreshment I felt completely normal within a few minutes.
Fasting is quite different to low/no carb in regard to allowing a damaged digestive system to heal.
Very much so!
He's using autophagy which does work in a "self-cleaning way". I used it to help during my adaptation to a keto diet. Worked very nicely. Autophagy removes damaged cells and you can simply do this overnight while you sleep, and you rely upon ketone bodies made from your body fat. Since I was not taking meds, nor a diabetic, it was perfectly safe. All that is needed is no snacking ever and skipping breakfast - doing OMAD. And this pattern fits into today's commuting lifestyle. You have your black coffee on your way out the door in the morning, no snacking at work, and then you have a nice ketogenic lunch. This is how one adapts more easily to keto, trains yourself to not snacking and since you're on the job you don't have to endure people nagging you to eat a "balanced diet". Eat only what is "essential for life" which are meat and fat. No carbs, all of them. KETO 18/6 +A is my method.
Thanks Df. Westman. I could never fast. I always felt terrible when I tried. Its good to hear hear that low carb mimics fasting!
I agree. I exercise in the morning and the thought of getting up and exercising for 1.5 hours without eating a cup of yogurt and walnuts means that I would not get up at all. I prefer to eat my last meal when the workday is done, not in the middle of the day, so I rarely can go more than 13 hours per day fasting. That is good enough for me. I also still eat some carbs and I admit to even eating ice cream and some cookies. However, I do not make a habit of it and I do not need to lose weight. I would like to put on more muscle, but according to a recent CAT scan, I do not have viseral fat. I may still have some fat in my liver and pancreas, and some day I may ask for a scan to determine how much fat is in my liver and pancreas, but according to what Dr. Robert Lustig has said about blood work, it is unlikely that I have non-alcoholic liver disease.
Maybe add electrolytes to your water to improve hydration at a cellular level.
Monitor blood sugars if you fast.
Start by fasting overnight, like 12 hours at first. Get quality sleep.
A reason you may feel poorly could be your cortisol levels are off, or you aren’t properly hydrated, sleep isn’t restorative, menopause?, hormones aren’t optimal…
You could more gradually adapt, as fasting too soon and too long before adapting without adjusting the diet, with likely affect how your body responds.
Later you can delay breakfast by 1 hour, or have supper an hour earlier.
@@T-aka-T Thanks for sharing... I eat very little fruit or veg either...
Intermittent fasting and keeping carbs less than 20 grams equals amazing weight loss
Never thought someone like me could go zero carb. It’s possible I’ve done it; crazy miraculous.
Muscle matters to, weight lifting should be encouraged.
Not rly
I lost 55# and prob walked 3-5x in 6 mos lol lifted zero
I’ve lifted and lost zero, simply got muscles under my fat
It’s more IR than anything
Unless ur like 25
Not really. Tons of skinny people that do not lift.
_" Lift for Life "_ 💪😚
Definitely!
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928Pretty sure the percentages of centurions that were weight lifters is close to zero.
Telling people to not eat carbs leaves the vegans and vegetarians behind. That's basically all of India. Dr Fung is proposing something that we can all do, no diet wars needed.
Dr Fung doesn't want people to reject fasting if they are vegan, etc. If you listen to his Fasting Method, they advocate low carb. If you eat keto all day long, it does not work for many of us. Fasting long enough does actually work but the best is both together. On a 36 hour fast now.
Leaves out all of Europe, too! Italy & France for sure! Leaves out the rice cultures: China, Africa,...who doesn't survive in carbs?
@@mariad1151 I am European, German to be precise, and have spent tme in other European countries. Most of us do eat animal products, low carb and keto are not a problem if people wish to change their diet. Vegan and vegetarians are only a small proportion of the European population. Buy yourself some cookbooks on French and Italian cusine and see how wrong you are.
@@brigittegoretzky9757 French are known for baguette & croissants. Italians for pizza & pasta. Asian & African cultures subsist on rice & grains. Enlighten yourself & cultivate a little social grace, too.
@@mariad1151 Do you really think baguette and croissant is all the French eat? Never heard of Coq au vin or Bäckeroffe? Beef bourguignon? Bouillabaisse? How about the various ragus in Italy? Saltimbocca alla Romana? Osso bucco? Calamarata? No? Nothing?
I guess you are American and all you know is the junk food you get sold as "typical" but you really have no clue about the fantastic food you can find around Europe.
@@brigittegoretzky9757 Your post is not only arrogant, it's ignorant as well. I leave you to it. You don't know the value of bread, pasta, pierogi, pastry, & rice to the world's food supply. The only convincing point you've made is that you're argumentative and rude.
I lost 30 lbs using Dr Fung's plan coupled with carbs under 50 g/day. When I dropped carbs lower, and switched to Ketovore/Carnivore last August, I felt physically better, but have gained 5 lbs and have not lost inches. Fasting, which used to be easy for me, no longer works because I get really hungry...for my animal based foods. I believe, for me, Dr Fung's approach was much more effective. 24 or 36 hour fasts, 3 times a week
Dr Fung ❤🇨🇦
Prepare your body by eating no carbs for at least 24 hours before your fast and you will find the experience much easier. Even better is two days of no carbs.
Hard to believe that I did a 5-day fast - _twice ❗️_ 😳
I want to do a 3-day fast but every time I get to the 24-hour Mark I cave and eat something. I am carnivore but I've only been dieting and fasting for about a month.
I fasted once, for 36 hours. It was horrible. Never again. 15-16 hrs is the limit for me.
@@acwhit1593 Wait a while a little longer to ensure you are first fat adapted, then the fast will be of more benefit to you. Don't dry fast; take electrolytes.
@@trail.blazer / Agree 👍
@@trail.blazer
Thank you! I appreciate the advice
My understanding is that Dr. Fung initially wanted to convince his patients to eat a low carb diet, but he evidently ran into some resistance from his patients, so he settled on fasting instead because that also keeps insulin from spiking. I was inspired to try fasting and my 24-hour fasts were ok, but he said that people didn't end up gaining weight back afterward and I ALWAYS did. The worst was when I fasted for 3 full days and gained the weight back IN A DAY!!! So discouraging. Dr. Fung's plan is also to eat 2 meals per day every other day, and fast completely the days in between. He says that you won't lose muscle because your body isn't "stupid," but I've since researched the importance of protein, and now I refuse to fast because I don't want to lose muscle as I age. Honestly, eating keto is a hell of a lot easier than eating NOTHING!
Then just don’t snack between meals, and fast overnight, from after an earlier supper, to a later brunch.
Eat the right amount of protein grams for your height, build, gender.
Avoid processed seed oils; healthy fats instead.
There are no Essential carbohydrates.
Walk comfortably after meals to improve Insulin sensitivity.
Get the best recuperative sleep you can get.
Reduces stressors in your life.
Don’t get cellularly dehydrated.
Test full thyroid panel.
Test Vitamin D panel.
Test Iron/B12 panel.
Some meds are known to affect metabolism.
If his patients resist his medical advice, that's their prerogative and their folly. I would only offer fasting as a poor substitute to going low-carb, and persist on recommending that diet to truly expect improvement..
Thank you Dr Westman! You are changing and, saving lives.
Dr.Fung is great guy, smart and share his knowledge in very easy way to understand for people not only for doctors.
Keto is marvellous especially when combined with intermittent fasting. I find fasting gives me control. I eat 18/6 with occasional 23 hour fast
Am really glad I saw this video now as I was just yesterday warned about fasting and starvation mode and my body would gain weight. I am now on my 170 hours fast in my target journey of 500 hours fast to try to break a weight stall I’ve been stuck with for the last 6 months. So this video came in perfect timing 🙏🏻 thank you. Am on day 7 of 21 days plan and so far so good as long as I keep myself occupied and busy am not thinking of food. I think it’s all in the brain 🧠 😅
🤣 Haha - excellent good on you. I hope it all goes well for you 👍
Thank you Dr Westman, you really helped clarify a lot of things for me. Dr Fung was one of the 1st doctors I came across in my search for a healthier lifestyle, and now I can see that intermittent fasting may become an automatic function brought on by a keto/carnivore lifestyle. ✅️
For older women, vast majority
Needs fasting
Pointblank
It’s sucky in our culture but it’s reality
Also
-it takes a looooong time of severe carb restriction (w/high fat) and IF/EF before seeing things even start to shift
It’s rare for the person to tolerate this in our culture. It’s HARD and for no gain (fat loss). So they give up.
I’m talking 6 mos till fat loss rly starts kicking in - like the 25yo did in week 3 lol
Support network is absolutely KEY or ur going to lose in the fat loss game
Dr Elizabeth Bright says the exact opposite! Older women who fast spike Cortisol, which puts on belly fat. We (I’m 73) can lose fat by eating mostly fats and protein, minimal carbs, and by working out with weights sufficiently to build some muscle (which burns fat while you sleep).
This is absolutely sustainable once you take your own health seriously and realize how terrible the alternatives can be.
And any woman who can’t make up her mind to eat healthily and needs a ton of “support” is weak-willed. In the words of Neicey Nash, “Take a big girl pill!”
This has not been my experience. I lost weight quickly on low carb.
I lost all my excess weight in one month with zero carb diet. Very constant weight for last four months. Carnivore for the win.
Keto & carnivore is a hack for cutting junk foods out of the diet. That is the only reason they result in weight loss.
@@margomoore4527 Not everyone is the same and some people have more discipline and drive than others. Carb addiction is real, but I think that much more of carb addiction is psychological. I know a lot of overweight women who are not happy. The people that they loved have died or moved on with their own children and do not have much time to spend with their mothers. For women who never had careers and who centered their lives around their children, empty nest syndrome and losing their husband and many of their friends leaves them with little but food and TV. Take away the comfort foods and what do these people have left? Quite a lot if they are willing to change their lives and develop other interests, but that is difficult if you do not have the habit of doing so for the last thirty or forty years.
Very helpful Dr. Westman, thank you.
Autophagy is stimulated by fasting, but not stimulated as well with keto alone. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Also stimulated by exercise in a big way...
Intermittent fasting helps me to break my constant eating way of life that’s killing me
Cleared lots of doubts. Thx for this video.
Dr. Fung’s back story is that he prescribed a low carb/ketogenic diet to his patients. In follow up visits, his patients would not show any improvement of their diabetes numbers. He would ask if they cut out the carbs, and they would lie and not mention that they are still eating rice. Most of his patients are Asian, F they could not get the rice out of their diet because of their culture relies on rice. So he asked them to skip a meal or two (do intermittent fasting). His patients could do that if they could still eat rice, and they began to have improvement in their diabetes markers. That was the start of his concentrating on intermittent fasting.
Your videos are fantastic. Make so much sense. I appreciate all that you do for us.
Thank you
Sharon
Ok, have you considered Dr. Fung’s patient population? It may be that it is difficult for Dr. Fung to get his patients to quit rice. Dr. Westman, you always say you have to deal with patients as they come to you. Therefore, the fasting Dr. Fung suggests is a good way to overcome this issue.
Someone I was listening to made the comment that hunger was the signal to go hunt for food. People in the wild would then have to go work for it in many/most cases and it might take a while to finally eat. Personally, I like to intermittently feast, which is a phrase several people are now using and I think it fits well. I don't look at it as fasting if you are only eating when the body says you are hungry, go find food.
I have seen people who have eaten whatever they want, once a day, and lost weight. I wouldn't do that. I do believe it is not just about losing weight, it is about losing unwanted fat and also still getting complete nutrition. I also find I don't like fasting much on low/no carb. However, every once in a while I just feel like not eating for a day or two and typically just follow my body cues.
Fiber is an interesting topic. I see no reason to eat fiber and have not heard any convincing argument that make me believe you need to eat any. I don't, and so far ( 3.5 years ) no issues that I know of. Of course, I don't eat carbs either, so not really worried about slowing down sugar digestion.
Funny that eating protein goes to eating only protein. Protein and fat come together, what a shock. Eat the food as it comes in nature. Carbs and fiber are not essential, pretty much says we evolved eating mostly protein and fat and would have only had what nature provided. Carbs would have been very limited, and still are today in come places. Doesn't mean we cannot eat them, we just wouldn't often and that allows us to handle doses every so often.
We also need to have insulin rise every so often. Too many people are afraid of insulin. Don't raise it by artificially eating carbs that we don't need to eat, let the body make what it needs from the protein you eat and the fat you store.
Some people wont or cant do keto or carnivore or give up all carbs and sugar.
To be fair to the Fungster he must be doing things that encourage the hard to get to folks who have gone over that line to Diabetes and all its ill effects.
I do fasting the most was a five day.
It makes you realise your not going to die if you dont have food every day.
I think Dr Fung and Dr Westman are doing a great job.
Neither are promoting calories in out shake it all about mantra.😂
Jason Fung was who I discovered when looking up how to cure my fatty liver. Jason makes perfect sense.
So I discovered intermittent fasting and the carnivore diet at the same time and started them almost immediately.
I am seeing immediate results and am finding IF surprisingly easy. Within 2 weeks I have done 15 or more hours every day and sailed through a 40 hour fast as well.
Now I'm planning on trying to do a 2 day fast every weekend.
I love your videos Dr. Westman but your audio balance in this video is out of whack. I have to turn the video up to hear you and then your shown clips are louder than you are.
Please do a video on what to while sticking to a Keto diet and NEVER feeling hungry. I get really light-headed and maybe even a little dizzy before I realize I haven't eaten in hours. Thanks.
About 2 1/2 years ago when I got covid the first time, I didn’t realized how sick I was and fasted for over 40 days. Someone took me to a hospital where I started to recover. But my weight went from 185 to 167 (approximately) but the fasting didn’t hurt me any.
Wow, I just found you on TH-cam and was liking and agree with your perspective until today. Dr Fung tells why in his book, The Obesity Code. Maybe you should read it and maybe you should take his interviews as a whole when commentating his interviews. The “I think” or “I don’t believe “ doesn’t show your watchers proof, only your opinion. Intermittent fasting along with a low carb diet is what Fung teaches and what works.
Thank you Dr Westman ❤
Excellent as always !!!!
IF it's a great tool. It would take willpower while eating a high carb diet. While on the contrary, eating minimal carb, you're not hungry. For me, while eating keto, IF just comes naturally.
True..i have been doing IF and still eating carbs...so weight loss has been very slow particularly since im post menopause
Dr Fung's audience is: humans NOT on keto. He's trying to explain to the 'layman' what's going on in the body.
(Carbs = sugar) Once a diabetic grasps this 'concepts, life gets easier.
Great video! Thank you for breaking this down the way you did as well
I've watched a lot of Diary of a CEO videos. He's been very interested in low carb eating lately, but he also entertains vegan influencers. No doubt in my mind, Fung was either cautioned against spending too much time on what you eat and focus only the fasting element, or that was edited out. Before I started low carb eating I watched a lot of Fung's videos and was doing IF while still eating plants and sugar and it was helpful. So, this little seed is very good. Recently, my hopelessly sugar addicted t2d relative decided he was going to do intermittent fasting. I have no idea if he still is doing that or not, but something put that seed in his mind. He even recently said to me that my diet was working better than his (he follows standard of care from a vegetarian doctor). So I'm just not offering any more information and will let him follow the path and pray it gets him to the low carb lifestyle.
I myself needed to weight way back in 1989 and heard dieting would not work for long term. Weight loss and simply thought to myself if I limited my eating snacks between meals,cut out sugary drinks (cola,fruit juices)and once I did that with gapping between my eating...and surprised everyone I knew by losing weight and keeping it off for years
New to you channel and enjoyed it , learning lots thank you Dr
What is not stated is that a person should not fast long time cold turkey. The body needs to be trained to fat adaptation for smoother fasting periods. I do typically fast 18 / 6 but am reconsidering this. I am nearly at my goal and may go to 3mad keto and maintain as needed with the occasional fast.
I also have strict fasting period through the Orthodox Church including many Saturday evenings, Advent, Lent and 2 weeks in July / August.
When visiting very close friends in Malaysia over Ramadan, I also respect them by joining in the daily fast.
I have been researching both vegan and carnivore diets in recent months and have come to the conclusion that both can work depending on the person. It’s the elimination of sugar and junk foods that convey most of the benefits. I thought I would share one of my observations though from watching hundreds of videos from both communities:
The carnivore community videos tend to have hundreds if not thousands of people sharing their experiences on carnivore which are 99.99% very positive. It’s often difficult to find even a single example where some had a bad experience on it. I would say at least 90% say it cleared up an array of illnesses and people feel amazing on it. These comments rarely mention vegans or a vegan style of eating. It is rare to find a case of someone who ate carnivore and switched to vegan and said they feel better or that it was the best thing they ever did.
The vegan community is littered with people castigating meat eaters and dismissing carnivore, often with a smug or hateful attitude. I understand that many people have an idealogical aversion to killing animals. It is quite common to find people who were ill on vegan and cured themselves when they switched to carnivore. Of course there are a majority that also feel great on vegan too.
I notice that it is overwhelmingly the Vegan community that spreads FUD. It is then those same “experts” that seek to sell you you on all kinds of potions, supplements and procedures. My spidey senses are tingling. In my life experience when someone hits me with FUD and then offers a solution which I need to pay for it is usually BS.
Let me give you one of hundreds of examples of this. I watched a carni video talking about SIBO, they said the vast majority of people see improvement within 2 weeks of a meat based, zero card diet. They tried to see me nothing. Then I saw the vegan community discussing this. They said it needed to be analyzed via a stool sample and then promoted a $250 stool analysis service. I see this pattern again and again and again.
Like I said, I think both diets have their benefits but do your research folks and question those spreading FUD and selling you stuff as a supposed panacea.
what is FUD?
@@jolou0917 fear, uncertainty and doubt
Dr. Fung explained that he older people from different cultures and trying to get them to do any of these special diets, or even understand them was almost impossible, but everyone can understand intermittent fasting. And just giving that time allows the liver to pull out the glycogen. And he is absolutely right about lowering metabolic rate. He absolutely does show data about results with intermittent fasting. Right now, I am doing both, but to be honest, eating keto is hard and very hard t9 continue forever..intermittent fasting is much easier
What about this study?
Date:
March 20, 2024
Source:
American Heart Association
Summary:
A study of over 20,000 adults found that those who followed an 8-hour time-restricted eating schedule, a type of intermittent fasting, had a 91% higher risk of death from cardiovascular disease.
Where are the clinical trials on seed oils? 🤷♀️
Can you check those out?
I just wanted to say that I have been intermittent fasting now for about 7 months and have lost over 6 stone in weight. When I do eat witch I have restricted to a 6 hour eating window I do eat high carb foods for example I will have one bowl of cearl twice in that window then fast and then another day I will have a nice sandwich once that day and fast . I know this is in your opinion bad but it seems to work for me . I would try a keto diet but the foods that say they are keto friendly all seems to be either pricy or ridiculously expensive and as a person on a very low budget I have to stick to what I can afford . I think a lot of the videos not just yours about keto do not take in to account people on low incomes enough . But with that said I do enjoy your videos and find the way you explain details very easy to understand.
❤Dr. Fung
I don't feel like this particular video is a good example of Dr. Fung's work. This is the first video that I have seen of his that doesn't say that IF should be done with a ketogenic diet.
Time for lunch, which in my case = bacon.
I have been on keto for more than 6 months and quickly lost 30 lbs. I am a 73 year old male but my problem is my belly fat. It will not budge and I am very serious about my keto but I honestly think my metabolism has slowed to the point nothing is happening. Watched lots of videos but none seem to help.
I watched dr fungs same video last week and it did change my mind back to fasting and then while i was about to change i watched your video (perfect timing) which stopped me from adding fasting like years back. I do prefer to lift weight and have 3 meals a day. Two smalller ones and a big meal. It would be nice if you could do a video about when it would be beneficial to limit the greens and when to increase the fats which are now limited in your book.
I enjoyed OMAD and doing my weights session after work 24hr fasted and before my one meal of the day...
Thanks for reminding me about Jason Fung. I went OMAD carnivore and have lost 100 lbs. but I have plateaued still in the class 2 obese weight range. I doubt my workout gains is enough to explain the plateau, especially since my waist circumference is staying constant. The only thing I can think to do is to try longer fasts.
Seed oils
@@yt555555 I haven't consumed seed oils in months.
I am in the same situation. Fasting more isn't working either. I think I am going to add more protein spread out in 3 meals and also increasing my activity levels.
Does the “answer” then not lie in a moderate and sustainable combination or low carb and intermittent fasting? Fasting may be “natural” if indeed you don’t wake up hungry … and not being hungry is the result of low carb diets … a natural state through which we evolved. Break the “habit” of eating and replace it with “necessity” of eating.
I’m a little confused about Dr Fung saying protein mixed with fat is problematic? Why? It’s completely natural and whole. He seems to be saying eat chicken because it’s low in fat. Is that for weight loss or is that for health? Is he saying animal fat is bad for you? And is he a proponent of fiber (whole grain what) ? Because I know we don’t need fiber if we don’t want it in the context of a low carb diet. Surely if you are not low carb the fiber could have a benefit but if you are in ketosis I don’t think fiber is necessary not a nanogram. And I still don’t understand why he holds the 70s up as the ideal decade. That is the decade I did some of the most damage to myself; Twinkie’s, grape soda by the 12 pack, chocolate bars and Rice Crispys for breakfast with a mound of sugar poured on top. Had to be disastrous for my 10 year old brain. I know I only survived because I was a high level Athlete. Paying for it now tho.
Note: I was suicidal at 11 even went to therapy. Look up Dr Georgia Ede if you want to know the truth, include Dr Chris Palmer while your at it
I didn't know that our bones are around 50% protein until recently!
That's a large store of protein!
Jump to end of video summary ,,
Whole food only in sensible portions , simple.
More popular platforms like Fast, Feast, Repeat (not clinical based) have thousands of case reports of people who dont (initially) change what they eat. Apparently some folks (especially those who're OVER dietary restriction after many years of failure) respond to changing WHEN they eat rather than WHAT they eat.
Yup - I started with IF - trying to get my 6/7 meals a day and loads of portions of fruit and veg down to eating 2 meals a day - took a while and was quite uncomfortable until I adapted. Now quite happy with 72 hr fasts
I tried intermittent fasting, but I could not stick to it without dropping carbs first, and I could drop carbs only by replacing them with butter and even them it took a few months of trying and failing ... mostly because I like potatoes and beans and cheese cake too much :)
Seems like he was trying to appeal to the masses rather than just the low carb/keto people that he has been talking to for years. Unusual though that he didn't talk about Keto/low carb at all because Steven has done Keto himself before.
To fast before or after surgery and before a blood test is totally different than fasting for several days consistently. You would think that a physician could see the difference. While someone who is extremely overweight can fast for two or three days safely, it may be very dangerous for someone who is only slightly overweight. I doubt that most people who go through multiple famines would advocate that for others.
People who are habitually in famines are very unlikely to be suffering the western metabolic problems that we have here... there is a big difference...
I am a type 2 diabetic. When I don’t fast. My blood sugar is almost always 130 and if I fast k go down to mid 50’s and feel like I’ll pass out. I can’t seem to find a good way to drop weight and not be extreme high or low numbers
You Go Dr. Westman!!! Shout it from the rooftops: Protein is for immunity and all other body processes & we don't need carbs!!! Wish someone had said that 20 years ago!!! (Was told the lie about Dr. Atkin's death..feared protein and fat!)
I never heard anything about killing belly fat? Felt a little tricked into watching waiting for that 😏
Intermittent fasting, autophagy is how you do that. Doing crunches daily too is really helpful.
He was reacting to a video titled that
@ ~ 3:25 Dr Fung talks about it, explaining the importance of fästing - IF and prolonged fästing.
How many commercials did you count? If folks think this is about information, they need to wake up. Like all else, it's about $$$$$$
@@T-aka-T TY I appreciate that information! I think that's how the channel makes $$--from commercials. Think it's based on # of views. Think the channel owner gets to say where & how many commercials they will allow. Dr. Boz, for example, had one of her videos demonetized bc covid content. She lost $$ bc of it. It's how some make a living.
Dr. Westman, some feedback: The audio of you speaking is so low compared to the clips you show of Dr. Fung. I have to turn the volume way up to hear you speak and then when he comes on he's practically screaming at me. Please consider mitigating this in future videos. Please and thank you.
Yes I was adjusting volume too - to be comfortable...
When I had an elevated A1C my family doctor advised me to eat more meat and less carbs and I could be a member of the Bacon lovers club. My renal doctor advised me to limit Protein and cease Creatine monohydrate. I have simply avoided Ultraprocessed foods, miss donuts and ice cream. Labs all good including renal panel. Simple, high protein Mediterranean/Dash diet with limited carbs. Fung Mumbo Jumbo. 🙏🏻👹🏋🏻🏊♀️
My question
Is if u r eating fat though u r burning the dietary fat so when does the body fat start burning?? Also don’t u lose lean muscle if u do longer fasting without protein intake
Yes and it's called Low Carb diet!
I'm sorry to disagree Dr. Westman. But. Protein comes second for me...
I need huge amounts of fat to support my energy, sleep, hormones, etc...
I skip breakfast, have a super carnivorous lunch and in the evening just a banana or some papaya or berries. I never fast for longer because I enjoy the feeling of being hungry after 3 days and then I don't want to eat anything at all. that is dangerous for me
I have the same with a 3 day fast... I feel like I don't want to eat again 😂 - but I know that I should...
Dr Fung is very carefull in instructing his followers on his TH-cam channel. But the host here is asking him questions and he provides the answers. The parts you show are out of the context of the rest of the whole interview.
Intermittent fasting is what we did since our species started their existance.
Your’re right however that people should take care going back to that regime if already taking medicine for their bad lifestyle…
Very true, and many of our species died of starvation. If you could go back in time and ask early humans whether they would prefer to eat every day and have enough food to eat more than once a day, they would look at you as if you were crazy. Starvation was a reality then in a way that is fortunately rarely true today. Today many poor people eat food that may not be nutritious but empty junk food or a bowl of rice, but unless there is a famine or natural disaster, most humans have something to eat each day. People may be hungry today if they are eating junk and a lot of carb, but they are not typically at the brink of starvation except in countries that have wars, famines, and natural disasters or criminal dictators who hoard everything for themselves. That is a huge change in what most humans faced early in our development as a species.
I dare anyone to fast on a high carb diet, IMHO it's torture. No carb + fasting = easy peasey. If your hunger signals aren't working, eat when your hungry is problematic.
If a person has hyperglycemia, is it dangerous to fast???
Can you make your own videos on health and wellness so that others can critique you?
Everyone should have a Fasting Insulin Test. Glucose test is only one tiny piece of the puzzle.
REDUCE INSULIN NOT CALORIES!
I think that almost all overweight and/or obese people are malnourished. If I am correct, fasting can actually be dangerous. I do think that if you eat enough nutrient dense food, you can fast, but it shouldn't be extended. So yes. I do think that obese people should actually eat more. Eat more nutrient dense food and eat less nutrient deficient food.
You are spot on. what do people who have a "beer belly" and people starving to death have in common. Look at the pictures. Same belly distension. Hmmm...
Angus Barbieri consumed nothing but vitamins and zero-calorie beverages for over a year while on history’s longest fast - which helped him lose 276 pounds over 382 days!
@@Hoojammyflip I wonder how he is doing now
@@judyfreeman5193 He has posted another video today...
Here is a simple tried and true way to lose belly fat: eat healthy , cut out the junk fake food, do simple exercises daily (like pull ups, push ups walking) and Fast twice a week. If you eat three meals a day cut it down to 2 or 1.5. Cutting out alcohol is also recommended. Its done wonders for me. Lately ive been looking in the mirror with amazement and thanking God 🙏🏻☦️