How does Yuto win in the XYZ Dimension? Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V Discussion

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  • What is up with Dark Rebellion in the anime?
    How does Yuto win in the XYZ Dimension? Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V Discussion
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  • @D4Skewer
    @D4Skewer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I want to say it was a writing error, but then you also have to consider, maybe in his dimension, he was the underdog, the one that was picked on because he wasn't a strong duelist against other Xyz users, and his only real source of companionship was Kurosaki and Ruri. But that all changed when the Fusion nation attacked.
    Suddenly, Yuto jumped from being the one who was messed with the one that everybody was looking to for protection and strength, where his monster stood as the weakest among other Xyz, his monster now stood at the top, leading the charge as it sapped the strength out of the fusion users. Yuto's dragon was made for interdimensional warfare, not domestic.

    • @aozorahaou2643
      @aozorahaou2643 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If the theory that Yuto is a fused reincarnation of Yuma, Astral, and Zarc's Xyz Fragment is true this is so accurate considering before and even after meeting Astral Yuma was still an Underdog until the World Duel Carnival

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is a cool explanation, sadly the show doesn't suggest is the case

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@aozorahaou2643ha! I know who said that

    • @BlessAngels
      @BlessAngels หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you just saved Yuto as a character with that theory, thank you

    • @aozorahaou2643
      @aozorahaou2643 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Me or OP? ​@@BlessAngels

  • @rhysjonsmusic
    @rhysjonsmusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Yuto out here running Lava Golem

  • @fade2535
    @fade2535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    in the anime the thing that makes each dimension dragon similar is being racist towards level 5 and higher monsters. for example in the tcg odd eyes does double damage always but in anime the attack target has to be level 5 or higher, clear wing negates level 5 and higher, starving venom can only take the effects of high level monsters, so dark rebellion had to be stuck with the level 5 or higher racism to fit with the other dragons. its really stupid but thats the main explination for the bad effect so my guess is yuto runs some cards to remove xyz materials to rank up dark rebellion into dark requiem, and sided those out when the fusion dimension showed up

    • @yuwu585
      @yuwu585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't even make sense because they all split from Zarc and it's not like Zarc hasany effect like that

  • @13KuriMaster
    @13KuriMaster 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Well... seeing how "Phantom Knights Possession" is an anime card that gives Xyz monsters levels, AND is apart of the archetype Yuto uses, I think it's safe to say that he likely had other cards to give his opponent's Xyz monsters Levels to use Dark Rebellion's effect.... but his lack of duels (and how he was never shown dueling an Xyz user on-screen) means we never got to see them.

  • @aozorahaou2643
    @aozorahaou2643 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Hmmm given Yuya didnt obtain Xingke Magician and Xiansheng Magician until AFTER he fused with Yuto is it possible Yuto had Phantom Knights or support cards that ALLOWED him to manipulate his opponents monsters Ranks/Levels sounds like he should've given Yuya didn't get Xyz Support like Xingke and Xiansheng, along with cards like Shuffle Reborn until after he fused with Yuto.

  • @AliacadosDuelistas
    @AliacadosDuelistas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    For me, Yuto was a "toxic player" before the Academia strikes out. The "toxic player" in this case would be someone that uses strongly meta cards with a meme deck, so I totally see Yuto using Dimension Barrier, Evenly Match, Nibiru, Spellbound, Fog Blade and other cards to stop XYZ summons and, of course, cards that modify levels. With this, Yuto can get a huge chance to sucess through his duels with PK/Dark Rebellion

  • @crocky6996
    @crocky6996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why is he considered a strong duelist in his dimension?
    Because that accolade was given to him as a member of the restistance, meaning: by beating up the invaders that did not come from the XYZ dimension, BUT Fusion dimension.
    And do I even have to mention Dark Rebellion is not even his only Xyz Monster? That he had Break Sword, Cursed Javelin, etc?
    Which is also funny if we play comparisons, as Yuri (the most powerful of the 4 Yu-boys) doesn't have ANY other fusion monster other than Starving and Greedy Venom in his Extra Deck.
    I really dunno what the problem is :/

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "And do I even have to mention Dark Rebellion is not even his only Xyz Monster? That he had Break Sword, Cursed Javelin, etc?"
      Break Sword doesn't have the destruction effect it has in the TCG/OCG, making him good only in the cases where your opponent can destroy it and then destroy the 2 monsters that it summons.
      Cursed Javelin can only be summoned throught traps since most of the Phantom knigths are lv 3 or 4, so it reliant on Yuto having 2 copies of the trap monsters
      "Which is also funny if we play comparisons, as Yuri (the most powerful of the 4 Yu-boys) doesn't have ANY other fusion monster other than Starving and Greedy Venom in his Extra Deck."
      Technically true, but Yuri has more than deck, and Starving Venom has strong effects on it's own

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uuYuri has his AG deck also

  • @gonzalojara398
    @gonzalojara398 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly I love this video, you talked about everything I was thinking when watching the anime and I find it funny not many people have talked about this before.

  • @emberthefox4951
    @emberthefox4951 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My guesses:
    1. Due to his strategy, and how we see lots of level modulation when he shows in Yuya, it wouldn't be too much of a reach to say he has means to make Dark Rebellion useful. Lock his foes out of xyz summons via level modulation, bring out Dark Rebellion, use the effect on the now viable targets, kick ass. Shame we never got to see him against an xyz duelist, who he could show this off against.
    2. Maybe he initially had it as a counter pick against the odd Ritual player, and when the fusion dimension attacked, he began to build his strategy more around this suddenly very useful card.

  • @lytelost965
    @lytelost965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3 Words. Phantom Knights' Possession.

  • @fxlja
    @fxlja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How does he win? Well...
    His deck is originally a Phantom Knights deck. That's a strong Xyz-centric deck on its own right, with a different playstyle than what you'd expect when he brings out Dark Rebellion. Pure PK is a control based deck, with cards that disable your opponent's monsters like Fog Blade and Wrong Magnetring, then picking your opponent's board apart using cards like Break Sword and Round Blaze before pushing for game.
    That's a pretty solid game plan, but one that doesn't really require the use of Dark Rebellion. So my headcanon is that it's a card that he has a strong attachment to, but never really use, until all that interdimensional warfare stuff started happening.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Break Sword doesn't destroy in the anime. It just summon monsters on destruction while it has materials

  • @LonggoBonggo
    @LonggoBonggo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Its true how specific his ace is to countering the other dimensions monsters but there is a part that we do have to look at, its name.
    Its called dark REBELLION the guy's monster is literally going against the invaders. Which is most likely where he got called a really strong duelist.
    Now what is yuto's game plan against other xyz decks. Im pretty sure from what we've seen the guy uses the more tactical wait and see approach we're we mostly see him use the trap monsters more than we see his main deck monsters. Im pretty sure deck consist of more spells and traps than any other guy, especially with all the random level modulating cards he ends up using when he starts to show in yuya.

  • @underdogchris1753
    @underdogchris1753 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This was an awesome video. And as someone who is currently doing an Arc V rewatch. I found this anime specific effect so weird. I never thought about it until watching this video. But looking back on it now. Yeah, how DID Yuto manage to have a good reputation as a duelist in the Xyz Dimension with that sort of effect? Lmao. Keep up the great work though. I can’t wait to check more of your content out.

    • @ventusace9054
      @ventusace9054  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you so very much. I truly appreciate the amazing comment and more importantly I am glad you enjoyed the vid. I hope to bring a new one out next week.

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well
      Maybe his competence really started to ramp up when the fusion soilders started attacking, because suddenly, like in the real game, a weak old card like dark rebellion suddenly is Uber op, think of it like when the new darkworld SD came out
      What were darkworld decks before? Some rogue level sht that *may* (and that was an if) handloop you once if they went through all of these hoops
      Post new SD? *A game of solitare that is just like every wombo combo deck that puts a million negates AND handloops you for your entire hand*
      Another case; fire kings! Pre new SD they were like, the seventh best deck in ruler format, now? They're the 3rd best deck
      But let's be real *would the yugioh anime people really go that meta?*

  • @yuwu585
    @yuwu585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He used it on Dragon Rulers and Priestess of Prophecy, obviously. This is the Xyz Dimension so we are in the Dragon Ruler meta

  • @dely9999
    @dely9999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know why the Xyz duelist lost the war against Fusion Dimension?
    BECAUSE ALL THEIR DECKS ARE BUILT TO GO SECOND!! the fusion duelists only had to let them go first and that's it

  • @Sonadourge
    @Sonadourge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As soon as you read out "level" I instantly knew what the issue was, damn

  • @bizzareswordsman1232
    @bizzareswordsman1232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think that his deck Phatom Knights is just to strong and cards like cursed javilen and break sword carried him with his dragoon existing to help against decks that use high level monster just my head cannon though

  • @Door3234
    @Door3234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh and i wanna say yuto would win alot because he was fighting fusions, he was concidered pretty mid in his own dimension, but as soon as the fusion dimension came in he was concidered a great duelist because hes a hard counter to fusions and synchros

  • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
    @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, honestly a question I always had about the show, but that anyone made a video about.
    It never made sense to me that Yuto should be considered an strong duelist of his dimension, it's not only Dark Rebellion, if I recall correctly the first group of Phantom Knights he played didn't have all the effects that made them good in TCG/OCG, for example Break Sword didn't self destruct itself to pop a card and then summon 2 monster as level 4 to go for Dark Rebellion.
    I've seen some people theorize that maybe before the dimensional war DR effects were different but Yuto changed it (similar to how Yuya or Zark transformed Odd Eyes), but I don't think that's the case since originally it was a Zark card and he was from the unified dimension where everyone has access to multiple summon methods.
    I guess they just sell the idea that Yuto was strong in his dimension to create the idea that all Zark fragments were as strong as him

  • @skyslasher2297
    @skyslasher2297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some theory’s are being thrown around but in my view it’s probably that yuto had a ton of support cards he’d use to facilitate dark rebellions effect

  • @stonecrane167
    @stonecrane167 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was thinking the same

  • @nexusshark
    @nexusshark 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We don't know if he was considered a "strong duelist" before the invasion. We've only seen very little about his life as a normal kid.

  • @luiplayscfv6857
    @luiplayscfv6857 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't remember if in any of the flashbacks pre academia invasion they show Dark Rebellion with Yuto but my theory is that Rebellion came to him once the invasion started. Sorta how Yuya's Odd-Eyes wasn't a Pendulum but evolved into one, maybe Yuto's Rebellion Dragon was actually just a regular XYZ monster with a different effect but in desperation of Academia's invasion it turned into the XYZ Dimension dragon. There could be other info I just simply don't remember that contradicts this. Another thing I could think about is Yuto playing cards that do give the opponents levels, maybe.

    • @proclarushtaonasat
      @proclarushtaonasat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      although zarc already had xyz dragon in the past. odd-eyes dragon changed, because pendulum was newly created, and zarc wanted that power as well.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He had Dark Requiem in his locker and it ask for DR XYZ Dragon so I doubt that.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it was Originally...
      Phantom Knight (Crest) Dragon?
      Dragons being used in knighthood heraldry and all that?

  • @giaphucnguyenphan
    @giaphucnguyenphan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the reason bro was consider strong in his dimension is because bro was the one who can have the highest win rate against the obelisk invader i mean all their dog machine monster have low attack like he could won against at least two invader

  • @Ninja_Assassin2468
    @Ninja_Assassin2468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if it was like odd eyes and went from dark rebellion dragon to dark rebellion xyz dragon when the war started and had a different effect that was stronger against xyz monsters

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:34 (spelling from that one ED)
    Joeri Fusion
    Hugo Synchro
    Ute Xyz

  • @jordanmakazuki6998
    @jordanmakazuki6998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think itd be cool if rebellion had a effect that when it destroys a monster it makes it a overlay unit lol

  • @quochuyvo3774
    @quochuyvo3774 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dark Rebellion should have 2 effects to compensate for Dark Rebellion horrible effect in Xyz Dimension. Combining both anime effect and TCG effect would be a great thing, plus increase Dark Rebellion power in both anime and real life

  • @devilgirl7054
    @devilgirl7054 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dark rebellion xyz dragon is one of mine favorite.

  • @Supreme-AMVs
    @Supreme-AMVs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do a video on zexal next

  • @blastthechaos6083
    @blastthechaos6083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the "Only affects Level 5 or higher monsters" wasn't properly established at the beginning
    I say this because Clear Wing was able to use it's effect on Dark Rebellion during Yugo's duel with Yuto (Yuto saved Dark Rebellion with a trap card) despite being an XYZ monster so clearly they didn't took it in mind.
    And disregarding that, Yuto not only had other XYZ monster, but also the anime has different standards for what is a strong Ace Monster, I mean Dark Magician and Elemental HERO Neos are considered good ace monsters in the anime world despite being normal monster so Dark Rebellion was probably the same

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Clear Wing has 2 effects:
      *if a lv5+ monster activates an effect, negate and destroy it.
      *If a monster targets Clear Wing (or maybe it was any lv5+ monster) negate nd destroy it

  • @Lulu-ew7oh
    @Lulu-ew7oh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given that he did had cards to change the rank of xyz monsters maybe he used that

  • @Supreme-AMVs
    @Supreme-AMVs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And what’s worse is, phantom knights in the anime are so awful, there are no searching effects, there is no swarm capabilities with the monster but just with the trap cards, there is also no break sword removal, no that card in the anime only has the gy effect and nothing else. Phantom knights in the anime are one of the worst archetypes ever, this is why yuto took a more astral type of character role so early, also no wonder we only got flashbacks for yuto, Konami knew that he wouldn’t actually be as strong as he’s hyped up to be in the actual xyz dimension.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True, I've seen a lot of comments of people who believe Yuto should be strong because he played Phantom Knights ignoring the cards didn't have the effects that made people remember them in the TCG/OCG.
      Really how he is strong in the XYZ dimension is a big mistery

  • @CompleteToast
    @CompleteToast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My head cannon is that, who cares. Its Phantom knight. Fog blade their biggest guy is just an ftk in a world where no one plays generic spell/trap removal. Like yeah, Cypher dragon is big but does it matter when fog blade stops it and break sword can pop it on the next turn. I'd assume XYZ dragon wouldn't come up against other XYZ users, while it'd be great and is great against the ancient gear decks who's only strategy is oonga boonga beatdown.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Like yeah, Cypher dragon is big but does it matter when fog blade stops it and break sword can pop it on the next turn."
      Except that Break Sword didn't have the pop effect in the anime, just the one that makes monster level 4 when it summons them

  • @EduardoOliveira-iy4gl
    @EduardoOliveira-iy4gl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think it was... a REBELION dragon, made only to fight agains fusion dimention
    and, in the curent problem on the XYZ world... yea, thats the meta there XD

  • @unanonimo98
    @unanonimo98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe he used it against Ritual and Tribute Summon monsters (because those exist in all dimensions) and used Break Sword against XYZs, then when invasion started took advantage of Dark Rebellion against the Fusions

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No Ritual Dimension... and no Monarch Duelist...
      Q_Q

    • @unanonimo98
      @unanonimo98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ramsey276one The closest we have to a monarch duelist is Sawatari :/

  • @BlessAngels
    @BlessAngels หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I literally think that the writers hated Yuto, like serious, 1 his absence...like why!! There are many ways to activate Yuya's berserk mode, just say "they are in close proximity and Yuto existence coz Yuya to go berserk" wtf, okay let's move on his card as you've explained is...well as you've explained, there was a lot Yuto needed to do and could've done... Whatever man I just...they hated Yuto like literally

  • @Eric6761
    @Eric6761 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like to think Zarc secretly was an Xyz hater all along

  • @Door3234
    @Door3234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yuto wins because hes just that cool (i am the yutos nations weakest soldier)

  • @Limitoveraccel
    @Limitoveraccel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    phantom knights alone were that good tbh

    • @ventusace9054
      @ventusace9054  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not in the anime, not even close in strength to the actual cards.

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess Rank up magic Rusty bardiche is as broken in the show as in life. Also plot.

  • @dylanmiller6169
    @dylanmiller6169 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not going to lie I haven't seen arc v, because 5D's just pushed my suspension of disbelief too far, but I do know your Ace monster isn't always your strongest. The strongest monster in your deck is your Boss while your Ace is more of a strong card that works with your deck. The Ace is supposed to be a strong but easy to get out card but not the strongest. Kinda like a mini boss of the deck.
    Yuto could easily have other XYZ monsters that would be better suited for dealing with other XYZ monsters. All the while rebellion dragon is mostly used as an early mini boss to hit material for high rank XYZ summons, but if that fails he turns to his other options.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, all the XYZ we saw him using aren't that much better, one can literally only summon by two coppies of the same trap that becomes lv 2 monsters (since I don't think Yuto had lv manipulation effects except for one that changes lv3 to lv4 monsters)

  • @alphamarigi
    @alphamarigi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He used Kaijus.

  • @kingvain9292
    @kingvain9292 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dark Requiem..

    • @ventusace9054
      @ventusace9054  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dark Requiem in the anime still has to target a level 5 or higher monster for its first effect resulting in the same issue as the anime version of Dark Rebellion. At best it is a 3K beater that can stop card destruction effects.

  • @DeltaAlphaGaming
    @DeltaAlphaGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Cough cough* they still use monsters with levels other wise how else they Xyz summon. Also he was using it to fight against fusion army monster. 😂

  • @alexisbarbet9562
    @alexisbarbet9562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe he’s not the best in his dimension, but he is skill enought to survived the longest against the fusion dimension that has level monster and in his dimension he only need breaksword with glove to win every duel

    • @proclarushtaonasat
      @proclarushtaonasat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, also since xyz are the dominant form of summoning in their dimension, there are many anti-xyz strategies as well. shay had revolution force, that can use an opponents xyz monster as material, so people might play non-xyz monsters agains anti-meta-decks. and even in zexal, there were non-xyz monsters in use, like, dark rebellion can be used against monsters such as soul drain dragon.

  • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
    @user-sp9ui8bi7i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the manga better than the anime

  • @darcygrimm8354
    @darcygrimm8354 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wasn’t the xyz dimension at war with the fusion dimension? So it’s likely he was strong for defeating enemies of the xyz dimension and is why his card is good against them all except his own. He probably gained his reputation for being a war hero? I havnt seen it in a long time though so could be wrong. But that’s how I remember it.