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He'll play out his career in Pittsburgh and transfer to the management/coaching staff.
And becoming owner of the penguins.
Seems like he wants to go back home and live a quiet life in Nova Scotia. At least that's my impression.
Nah when he retires he’s going off the grid for awhile
He will play out hes career there but for some management/coaching is not it. Actually it is not for most people even how good they are.
He saved that franchise. They would be long gone if it wasn’t for Lemieux and Crosby. He deserves the same respect as Lemieux from Pittsburgh. If he wants to go elsewhere so be it but I highly doubt it
No way Sid leaves after Malkin and Letang reupped to keep the core together. They're the longest tenured trio in sports history.
They can all get traded in the same season/off-season. Dubai completely botched the near term of the franchise with the Karlson deal, and with it any hopes they could contend during the remainder of their careers with the Penguins. The nicest and most loyal things they could do for each other is to present a united front to management to send them all out on their own separate ways for the best return possible.
Pittsburgh needs to do this too. Otherwise they're in for a decade + stagnation, which based on history, could kill the franchise in the city.
@@user-yq5yj8vk5l Sid will probably re-sign for 2-4 more years so that the core can retire together (Malkin has 2 more years and Letang has 4). The team is committed to Pittsburgh until at least 2040 when the arena lease expires. No chance of them leaving for another 16 years which gives them plenty of time to turn things around although I doubt the team ever leaves.
@@user-mi7nw5kt4w point taken about the lease, but it's bleak as far as the eye can see if they’re a fringe playoff team at best until they retire, and then Pittsburgh starts a rebuild without any shot in the arm that comes from trading them.
@@user-yq5yj8vk5l crosby, malkin, letang, karlsson, rakell, rust and jarry all have nmc in their contracts plus some of those contracts are unmoveable so i doubt it
They did, and they've already done two years post re-up. If it gets to 2 3/4 and it still isn't working, Sid doesn't owe them anything. As a Jets fan I'd give up a 1st to get Geno in his current form.
Retires a Pen. His final chapter as a player will be like Mario: mentors the next gen. Then front office.
Or retire with a 4th cup vs a last place team?
What next gen?
As a Caps fan, I would hate to see him leave Pitt. He, along with Ovi, will be legends retiring with the teams that drafted them.
He's not. Pittsburgh fans know he isn't. It's all talk.
kinda selfish if you ask me. he still has the skill to dominate and you want him to sink with the ship he was drafted to. with Ovi it makes sense cuz his skills are diminishing. just needs a couple dozen more goals and he beats gretzky's record. but Sid really does have one last cup in him.
if the contract were basically free, he could play in edmonton and win, idk any other way
and we all expected stammer to do that with the bolts but then the bolts stunned all of us
Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are gonna be Penguins for life and I'm a Bruins fan
@justinspiewak1482 If it's clear they can't compete, Crosby has reportedly said that he would be open to be traded if it helps the teams future. Like a Ray Bourque.
@steve8803 It's just my opinion but crazy shit can happen
@@justinspiewak1482 The one thing Crosby will never do is walk as a UFA. He will only ever leave through trade so that they get a return.
true, problem is malkin is washed and letang was never that good.
No world where Sid leaves Pittsburgh
people said the same of stammer
@@ballsincement Stammer isnt SId
People said the same about Patrick Kane
@@coreypnorris He was traded, didn’t chose to leave
@@ballsincementWhat? The rumours surrounding Stamkos prior to his 2016 extension were everywhere.
Idk why this is a media topic every year. Hes not going anywhere he’s said it a million times
Words mean nothing
John Tavares said that, then moved to Toronto where he belonged. He might want to play for his childhood team: the Habs, or go to a bigger market like Toronto and play with Matthews
@@coastaku1954Sid belongs in the burgh.
@@krash22mini72 it does when u look at the character of the person you’re referring to. Sid’s a very loyal guy
@@coastaku1954 he ain’t going to either
I’m a Mcdavid fan, but I have to say at this point in their careers… Crosby is just on another level. It’s more than just points for me though. The way he dominates the game and makes everyone around him so much better is the best I have ever seen.
Avs fan who remembers landing Kariya AND Selanne on extreme team-friendly deals here. You don't know what a player actually wants as they grow and change. Sid moving wouldn't be the craziest thing to happen in league history.
Good points
Sid has three cups, how many did those two have when they signed with Colorado?
@@chickenalaking1319 If winning isn't the concern, then he could decide to take a once in a lifetime chance to team up with a lifelong friend instead of puttering around in Pitty. He could always be traded back to the Pens to retire there. It's not super likely, but it's not crazy.
Besides 99, 91, and dozens of others? Nah, he wants a cup, pitt lucky to finish in top 12 next year, they toast.
I'm sure the fans felt the same way before Gretzky was traded.
Yeah but that was earlier in Gretzky’s career Sid is nearing the end of his time playing so I think it’s different in that sense
@BobbyT. hockey is still a business and if Pitt gets an insane amount of picks and current players they will do it. He will be out of the game in 2 years anyways. And with Hextall and now Dubas really screwing this team it would be foolish to not trade him if he brings great return value.
NMC gives Crosby full control and his departure is a massive financial loss for Pittsburgh.
and Ray Bourque.
Imagine coming in to the league and having Crosby as a mentor. There’s no way he leaves. He’s gonna stay through the retool/rebuild and be the leader he’s always been.
And play at an elite level, well into his 40's.
Stay through the 10 year rebuild? Loyalty to a team, or loyalty to the cup? He'll get traded. He'll ask for it, dude like him being fine to just chill on a 14th place team? Nah, he did that at start of his career.
He has NMC, but, KD needs picks, 87 wants another cup, not happening in PITT For at least til KD contract done.
Crosby is not just a player for me, he is a role model and a great person.
I would love to see Crosby sign for 8.7 again hahaha
$8.7m for 8.7 years
@@JackBirdbath Just on LTIR 57.4 games into his last season and that’s his retirement hahahaha
I wished veterans would sign for like 2mil a year, if they really cared about their teams, they would
@@coastaku1954 Crosby is still very much producing. 42 goals and 92 points last year. He’s FAR from that $2 mil veteran contract you speak of.
Yeah that makes sense spend years giving your body to a team, than go you know I'll play the "prime" of my career for less than the guys just starting. That makes sense 🙄@@coastaku1954
Can’t believe this is already the discussion for “Sid the Kid.” Remember playing NHL 06/07 at my parent’s basement & never being able to trade for Crosby haha. Now I am already 30. How time flies.
Lets be honest. stamkos is a heck of a player and a heck of a captian but he is no Crosby.
yeah stamkos didnt do HGH to recover from his injury.
Lets be honest, Penguins aint nothing special neither. Crosby's management has moved away and all his teammates are gone. Crosby has no one but a logo left
@@remimk hey we have sucked the last few years..I'll admit that. But what's your point here?. The comment stated Crosby is better than Stamkos. Are you even going to try and debate that lmao
@@remimk Crosby to be fair could probably lead a bunch of kids into the playoffs lmao I mean there is no doubt even at 38 there is probably much more panic to get a deal done for Sid than there would be to get a deal done for Stamkos. In the cap era you don't see generational talents like Sid really move.
@@brandonconnelly6562he's probably a Columbus fan. 🤣
Also how many times must I say this…. Hockeys not football. It’s like baseball. These draft picks take years and years to manufacture anything. There’s no such thing as trading players away for a “rebuild” just ask Detroit . They’ve been rebuilding for almost 20 years now by that logic.
Knowing it’s Dubas the GM. Probably gonna make him sign a 8 year 11M AAV deal.
The best way that Sid could help the Pens is by telling them that they can do whatever they want with him - and that if they can get total rebuild quality for him in trade that he's fine with them doing it. I can't imagine them trading him unless he specifically tells them that he's cool with it - and maybe not even then. He's a class act, a team guy and a fantastic leader on top of still being one of the best players on the ice
They literally can’t trade him unless he’s ok with it he’s got a NMC on his contract
He can not be traded, they can only lose him in free agency after next year.
In any case we'd love him! He is great for the sport! What a character! Grew up not liking him that much, as an Ovi fan but...he earned my respect through good and bad.
his mentor is Mario.... and we're debating whether he remains with one team... the same team no less.
I'm an Avs fan and of course I'd love to see Sid come over and play but I just don't see how all that works between salary cap and Sids loyalty to the Pens. The Avs would have to make major moves to free up that much cap space. The only way I see that happening is is Landy or Val come off the Avs books and somehow sign Sid in free agency. Maybe some odd trade at the end of this season if the Pens are way out and the salary cap hit is more manageable. But again I'd say it's a very low chance that Sid leaves or is traded from the Pens. He is the Penguins
Why would he go to the avs?
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Sid convinced both Geno & Tanger to resign in Pittsburgh when their contracts were expiring. There is no way he doesn't stick to the Pens until his retirement
and for that loyalty, penguins traded the best linemate he's ever had: Jake Guentzel. Loyalty is a two way street. and loyalty to a logo is the height of stupidity
@remimk hate to break it to you, but Guentzel was never going to resign in Pittsburgh. For the term & amount of years he's under contract, it's obvious that Dubas didn't see him being worth that much, not to mention how tightly contained they are with the amount of cap space they have
@@VexNathan It ain't worth, it's cap space, if Ronnie and moron Burke didn't make moron moves and moron KD didn't trade for EK65 years old, then it wouldn't matter, but it does. If Pitt wasn't a lower Teir team, he'd stil lbe there.
@randombutrelevant1606 a bunch of ifs that are unfortunately just that "ifs." I'm sure there's a world where we did keep Jake & Hextall wasn't a complete idiot with his moves. Sadly, that isn't the world we are experiencing & in all honesty, I'd rather have EK65 than what we sent out for him. You can't blame Dubas for trying to kickstart the team with a big splash of a trade from the shitty situation they got put in last year, he wasn't successful with that & he knows it which is why it seems we are going into the retool/rebuild era of the Penguins
Knowing Dubas he’s gonna give him some outrageous deal
The majority of Toronto's dumb deals were the work of ownership and Shanahan...Dubas just signed the contracts on management's behalf. That's why he insisted on the President of Hockey Operations position when FSG approached him about the Pens job.
He signs an extension to retire with Gino. At least I hope. These days, the guys you’d think would stay end up leaving. Or worse, they get Jonathan Quick’ed. Sid is ultimately going to let them know what’s gonna happen. I wouldn’t be surprised, I will be uncomfortable though, if we see him in a Rangers uni down the line. Hopefully he goes over to the west coast if anywhere at all.
I think there was a ‘rift’ in Tampa between Stammer and the management of the team, Crosby wouldn’t be treated that way, at least that’s my take. One thing is for sure though, Pitt has K. Dubas and they are on the hook, long term. I’m not a fan of Dubas, I CERTAINLY HOPE that Sid is treated with the respect he so richly deserves !
They traded Guentzel. its not the same management that he won those three cups with. They're in Vancouver
If he goes anywhere, it's Montreal to play for his childhood team...Montreal really ought to try, that kind of guy comes once in a lifetime for the young guys they got developing now.
Or Vancouver to join his old management team. But his childhood team would be much more romantic.
Crosby should go to Van on a discount to win a cup where he scored the golden goal
(i know it wont happen)
it will happen (we are delusional)
Different case from in Tampa. Stammer and JBB already have a bit of discord since 2 seasons ago. We did not hear anything from both Pens and Crosby himself (including that pale response when they trade Guentzel back in TDL). Nah, Sid will retire as a Pens (90% sure).
what a waste of a great player.. he should just retire now and save his body if thats the case
I thought it would happen with Stamkos too.
Penguins fan since I was 9 years old. The 87 Canada cup was insanity.
Living within a hundred kilometers from Toronto and a very young and limited internet, the years in between dynasties were long and very easy to forget about the pens altogether.
I would love for crosby to go down as a one team top 10 all-time point leader, just like Mario. And with the internet i could still see the penguins
But does crosby really care more about that then competing.
Mario will always be the one who saved the Penguins. Crosby was allowed to save them because of the league blocking the sale of the penguins to my home city, Kitchener Waterloo !!!
Then Mario who brought in Crosby, not just to the penguins but to his home.
Don't get me wrong syd did save the penguins too.
The long stretch of a rebuild is painful. Plus there's generational talent coming up for the 25 to 27 draft. The penguins are top heavy invested , leaving them very thin down the lineup.
Trading the future hall of fame players would instantly put them at the bottom unlike most other franchises hear the playoffs.
They could theoretically be in the draft lottery this season.
If Crosby who will already be known for his commitment to the Penguins, best player of his generation, so on and on and on!!!!
Messier, I'm sure is happy looking back on his decision to play for the Rangers.
Gretzky became responsible for hockey growing through the states and meeting just wife, due to playing elsewhere.
Only can think of the selfish reason of comparing my teams greatest to others with the ace on my pocket of life long penguins.
I would love a quick rebuild with young new exciting stars and the thrill of unknown potential and heights. I would also love to see Crosby play for his favorite childhood team. I think that might be the only accomplishment in hockey he hasn't achieved yet.
As long as Ovi's a Cap, Sid's not gonna want to leave Pittsburgh.
I don’t see Crosby leaving the Penguins. I also never saw Stamkos leaving the Lightning, so I don’t know what to think. It’s Dubas though, so we’ll see what transpires.
I figured Stamkos would end up out of Tampa when he wasn't offered an extension prior to this season. From the way he talks, he knew he was not going to get any real offer, either.
Dont ppl bring up the question of him leaving every year for the past few years? It always ended up with him staying...
it's the off season. what else we gonna talk about?
@remimk its the same thing over and over and nothing happens....
Doesn't make sense for a guy that saved a franchise from relocation who has won every significant award/championship multiple times to go ring chasing in the twilight of his career. Especially somebody with such high character.
So someone with high character SHOULDN'T try to win? Seriously dude?
He should go for a big paycheck then. biggest paycheck wins. there's two reasons to play hockey. play to win. or play to get paid. why would he stay otherwise? to hang out with his buddies? no wait they traded them already didn't they?
Apparently, in your eyes, this dude should be chill with being on a 14th place team in his last years vs going wherever.
He's out, PITT is done, most of their cap is dedicated to injured has beens, just lost JG and have pretty close to the worst GM in the league... on top of Burke and Ronnie prior, he's gone, deal him for a 1st, 2 2nds and a prospect, probably to Dallas, or wherever has a low state tax (maybe FLA)
As an Avs fan, there will always be a hope and a prayer that Sid comes and plays a year or two with Nate in Colorado. Probably never happening, but a man can dream
Would love to see him with the Avs and McKinnon! How loyal does a player need to be? Stamkos was shown the door. (Dubas is a doofus, Pens are toast).
Sid with the habs would be dope. I also think not the next season but the one after they would be certain to be a playoff team with someone like sid.
Also with the nucks too. He'd know all the staff since the entire staff is from Pittsburgh anyway lol
People who say that he would go somewhere that are contenders just confuse me, it’s not like he’s an Auston Matthews he is just getting his career wasted. He already has 3 championships, a conn-smythe. And 100% enough money, the chance of him leaving is miniscule, and it is definitely not coming from free agency
There's only two reasons to play hockey professionally. To win, or to get paid. If he's truely done then he'd retire. why break your body for no reason?
@@remimk coz he likes the sport?, you don’t play a sport enough to go pro while hating it and wishing you didn’t play, even if you are the most gifted talent ever, most likely at least
Don't get me wrong Pittsburgh's lineup isn't the greatest but they will be better than last season. Last season if they had a average powerplay they would've easily had the third spot in the metro and thats not even considering Rakell and Smith who are suppose to score 25-30 goals had terrible down years where together they only combined for 28 ( In Rakels defence he had a injury problem last year ) Graves had his worst pro year, Rust had injury problems and their starting goalie disappeared around January-February and it was Karlssons first season getting use to playing there. You would have to imagine all of these problems would be better if not fully fixed next season. And still even with all those issues and a shit bottom 6 they only missed by 3 points. I'm not saying they'll be a hardcore contender but the team should bounce back
why trade Guentzel if they wanted sid to continue as a powerhouse?
@@remimk They wanted to resign Jake but it got to a point where Jake made it clear he wasn’t sure if he would resign so they had to move him instead of losing him for nothing. Same with Carolina they wanted to keep Jake but couldn’t meat a contract agreement which lead to them sending him to Tampa where he has signed. The player gets to have the final decision. Both Sid and Jake are good players and they’ve shown they don’t need each other to produce however it would be nice for the pens to add a top 6 winger to play with Sid now that Jake is gone
I honestly can’t believe the Pens wanted Dubas after watching what he did to the Leafs.
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same here
@RobbieG17 You have to wonder how Dubas will ever get a GM job again if he squanders the start of Matthews' career and the end of Crosby's.
I think the guy with 3 cups 2 conn smythes, and a million on the record quotes of wanting to stay in Pittsburgh, is gonna try and chase a cup at the end of his career
It's all on Sid here
Pittsburgh owes him a lot and shouldn't veto any convo in any direction
I can't imagine he just stays and let's his career fade out and raise some future players
And I can't image he is leaving his Pens all behind just for his name maybe carved one more time behind some other teams name
So... Idk man
give him 12m for 8 years :)
i would love to have sid in colorado but i just dont see how they make that work. i guess if they do a trade mitts would be sent over for sure but yeah.. i dont see it.
Why Colorado? I think if anything he'd go to Canada for Legacy. or go for a big paycheck (tho thats not a sid move id think)
There’s a lot of connection out west, Vancouver??
Wishful thinking but maybe
I'm with you. Winning a cup for Canada would be awesome. But him being a habs and winning for Montreal would be even cooler for Crosby, Since he was a habs fan as a kid. Or go to the oilers and have the most insane line in history (as a nucks fan I desperately with this doesn't happen).
But honestly i wish he just goes for the money. Loyalty is such a foolish way to play NHL hockey.
I think he'll give the Pens a home team discount on his contract. He's got money. Now it's time to build a team legacy that will keep the Pens afloat for decades. Think of what Yzerman/Lidstrom did for Detroit. That type of leadership and loyalty. Setting the standard for the young core to carry forward.
Let's be honest, there is actually a good chance for the Pens to make playoffs next year. They didn't miss playoffs that much this year, it went to the wire this year. Considering that at one point people counted the Pens out they still managed to make it close. Just look at the Oilers, they started the season as the second-worst team just ahead of the Sharks. But then pulled themselves together and finished the season being 2nd in their division, 5th in their conference, 9th in the league, made it into the Stanley Cup final and almost won it. I'm not saying that the Pens will win the Stanley Cup next year, but it's not hopeless.
On a side note, Crosby is going to leave Pit in the next FA and signs with Chicago to mentor Bedard (Yes, I'm a Blackhawks fan).
nooooo he's going to go to Vanouver and win a cup for Canada WOOT! I mean Vancouver is basically the real pittsberg since all the staff is from there lol
I read rumours that he was considering heading to Canada, either Vancouver, Toronto, or Edmonton. I mean, if I were a legendary veteran, I'd wanna go back to my native country if possible, so I get it.
Send him out to finish his career with a chance at the cup. Make some money for Pittsburgh to rebuild and for him to finish his career with. Life’s too short.
Crosby is also a major marketing piece. without him they'll lose a lot of business
This is the same thing with the lightning, I don't see how this is different
Dubas and Crosby need to sit down (if they haven’t already) and decide together what Crosby wants to do and set realistic expectations together for this
Dubas likes to trade for guys who played for him or from the Soo Greyhounds. Marner would be epic but do te Pens have the assets and cap room?
Crosby to Washington, for the absolute memes and old-school best duo on one line
Totally going to Nashville!
As an Edmonton fan I'd love to see him on our team, obviously it won't happen for a bunch of reasons. But I believe he'll stay with Pittsburgh until he retires from the game.
why bother? for money?
He’ll stay in Pittsburgh most likely.
It would be fun to see him play with Ovi though. They had fun together a couple years back at the all star game….
I think there’s only one person who knows for sure what he wants and that’s Sid. He could leave, could stay. It’ll be up to him.
his wife probably knows too. if she's knows him well
Pens need a lot of young skilled players to supplement/compliment the old core
It will only happen if Crosby wants to win another cup and there is no possible way with the pens have a chance. Only time will tell.
Imagine him leaving to Toronto... however Sid leaving Pittsburgh would literally be the end of the Pittsburgh Penguins run in Pittsburgh. That poor city has had issues keeping it's team, and the only thing that has saved it were generational talents like Lemieux, Jagr and Crosby, hell just before Crosby was drafted, Lemieux was about to sell the team to Jim Bassille to move the team to Hamilton due to financial issues in Pittsburgh. I can tell you right now that if they didn't draft Crosby that year and reignited support with his drafting, we would have seen the Pens move.
I hope they bring up Ty Smith and Sam Poulin, they are doing real good in the AHL and Smith played full seasons with New Jersey, maybe too early, but he's refined his defensive skills, he's most likely better than Shea or Graves and Ruhw- wait that one's gone. Sam Poulin has shown he has recovered from his physical and mental issue last season and I think he's ready. The Hextall era didn't seem to trust or were overly harsh with the few prospects they had, it's no wonder Alex Nylander exploded as soon as he was traded to Columbus, which pissed me off honestly. I don't see Sid relenting and maybe Geno is gonna bounce back, he's done that before when we thought he was getting too old in the covid days then had what we expected out of him in 22-23. I also think Karlsson shouldn't be mentioned as the core of the 3 legends they still have on ice, not because he can't be great, he surely can, but because he's in his early 30's which is different than mid or even more so late 30's (Malkin, Letang).
One sign of a serious retool would have been to sign Stamkos, to give Crosby/Malkin guys more serious than Rust or Rackell (sorry Rickard, you're not what you used to be). There's really no big goal scorer left in free agency... Also a big if, but if Jarry gets back into the shape he had before his injury late in 21-22 which he seems to never have fully recovered from, even if he had excellent games last season, he's got to get that consistency back, it's weird to speak like that about a goalie who had, what, 6 shutouts last season, in a season where if they had made the playoffs, Nedeljkovic would have been in between the pipes, as he was favored to be so in the last third of the season. That's why I hope Poulin becomes what he's supposed to become and that they sign him to an NHL contract, same with Ty Smith, he's a good 2 way d-man and I'm not sure what he's still doing in the AHL, but after leading Wilkes-Barre in Points last season, they have to bring him up. Try *something* better than resigning a guy that I think never scored a goal like Shea. If they have decent enough wingers, Sid and Malkin can still be excellent playmakers, I like Drew O'Connor but he should be on a third line, not on the first one, and they definitely should have gotten a winger who can play, maybe one who just had a meh season like Smith and have him bounce back, but nah, irrelevant draft pick in 2 years for Smith isn't what should be done. Only thing positive from moves last year is that Bunting was playing very well with Malkin on the second line and on the PP, so that's a winger who could be even better next season. What would help is more consistency and making the playoffs and not missing them by 1 or 2 points like in the last 2 seasons, they only were tossed out of first round in 21-22 because of the disaster with Jarry injuring himself just before playoffs and DeSmith 2 minutes in game 1, Domingue did what he could but the bad goals started to appear, as they inevitably would even after the Pens being in the lead after game 3, he wasn't up to par and the rest of the team got demoralized.
With the GM's they've had, it's not easy not to become so.
Should've seen Stamkos leaving , considering the low ball offer he got.
Also how the lightning franchise handled there star players in the past, Lecavalier & St. Louis
It's keeps things fresh. I see teams getting stale with these elder statesmen and the "What do we do?" talk. Like Ovi and he's going to have to soldier along until he hits some imaginary number? I love Ovi but IDK if he could crack the top six on a lot of teams. Tampa not going to have those issues (unless it's Kuch or Vasy). Maybe even then.
Free up more cap space. Send Jarry to a team needing a solid goalie. Bring up Blomquist to back up Ned. Make a run at a Bennett type player that adds grit and scoring.
I think it’s 100% up to Crosby. My guess is he stays - I’d be surprised if he’s so hungry for a 4th cup that he’d leave, but who knows?
Sid will give them a number and ownership will say "okay", and have Dubas sign the contract. After the shit-storm he caught, from the NHLPA, for signing such a team friendly deal, last time, he may be asking something closer to fair market value, but still affordable for the team.
14th place vs chance for cup? Golden boy with a the golden goal.
I hope nobody does care if Sid leaves to take a crack at another cup before he hangs up the skates. I highly doubt he will, I always said that but it's not impossible. He might under the right circumstances and he's running out of time to win again. But as much as the guy loves to win, he's won a ton. I feel he probably can sleep well at night knowing his career was as good as it could be and we Penguins fans really are blessed to have had the guy for his whole career up to now. But if he decides he'd like to take a year or two in Colorado with his best friend Nate, I damn sure won't be upset for that. Go after it if you want, Sid. You don't owe anything to Pittsburgh at this point and I said the same thing about Tavares, Stamkos and Tkachuk leaving Calgary. If Crosby decided to leave the only people to blame would be management dating back to the end of Rutherford's time. Stamkos was a bit different as the team wanted to part ways more than anyone, but the fault again doesn't lie with the player but with management. I can't blame any player though if they decide to leave because their current team is failing to build around them. It's why I'd never blame Tavares for leaving, the guy gave his best years to a franchise that pissed away his talent. Sad coincidence that Lou really turned things around right as he left, but still, the point is valid.
absolutely. People always say players need to be loyal but Teams can be cutthroat cuz "its a business".. it's ridiculous
He's never going anywhere but the front office in Pittsburgh.
Nah. Crosby is all about legacy, imo. I don't see him wanting out, and I don't see Dubas moving him, or giving up on him either.
He "is" up there with Lemieux, in a way that even Jagr isn't, in terms of Pittsburgh legacy. The fans would revolt Dubas gave up on him like Tampa Bay did to Stamkos, and rightly so.
So just retire..? he's got legacy. Pens should give him a massive paycheck if they want him to stay. people talk about loyalty? how about 12m for 8 years. That seems loyal to me eh?
Nah, he's staying and his last years will be sadly miserable just like Mario's. He wouldn't have pushed for Malkin and Letang's extensions if he didn't want to stay in Pittsburgh. I guess now, after having won everything there is to win, he cares more about retiring with his buddies still in the same team, than chasing another cup. Wouldn't be surprised if they announce his new contract on his birthday.
What buddies? didn't they already trade Guentzel? if he stays with the Pens then it should be a massive paycheck out of loyalty. Because loyalty is a two way street
As sad as it would be to see Crosby go anywhere else, keeping him seems like the wrong choice for Pittsburgh. They need to build themselves up again. I don't see how they do that while holding onto Crosby. I hope I'm wrong.
No chance he wants to leave, he's got too much going on in Pittsburgh outside of hockey
What does he have going on in Pittsburgh outside of hockey?
like what?
@@remimkPrimanti sandwiches and Pirate batting practices.
Does 'outside of hockey' win cups? Nope.
i see him being a head coach for pitts in the future
The only world where sid leaves and it's like a 1% situation is if someone comes to Pittsburgh puts up a godly amount of trade capital and offers Sid enough money that it fundamentally changes the way NHL deals are structured (triple or quadruple is current worth which i think is over $100,000,000) and that aint happening
IMAGINE if he went to the caps haha, then have him and Ovi play on the same line just for shits and giggles
Do it for the memes Crosby! 😂
He could surpass Mario’s record for team points in a few years. Believe he’d wanna chase that. What more does he need to prove?
Pittsburgh would burn to the ground if Crosby were traded. Tho I agree we are not making the moves we need rn
Would love to see Crosby move somewhere else, he’s given the pens enough tbh
I think it’s very unlikely, but we’ve seen amazing team captains traded before, such as Stammer recently and Gretzky quite a while ago. Seeing trades like this in the past, it’s still quite a possibility for Sid to get traded.
Stamkos wasn't traded, Tampa let him walk in free agency.
Not at all. Sid's the reason that Letang and Malkin were resigned. Sid being angry at his friends being lowballed, and hinting at not resigning, is a big part of why Hextall was fired. Ownership got Sid's approval before allowing Dubas to trade for Karlsson. FSG will have Dubas do whatever it takes to keep Sid in Pittsburgh.
People do this *EVERY YEAR.* They act like Crosby's late-career Ray Bourque, searching for that elusive Cup. I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't finish out his career playing only for Pittsburgh. He's already won everything there is to win.
And bringing up Dubas trading away Reilly Smith, as if that signifies anything, is weird. Did you see Reilly Smith for the Penguins? He sucked. He started great, then was invisible for like nine tenths of the season. Getting Smith out was addition by subtraction. There were a lot of rumblings around Pittsburgh that Smith didn't even want to be there, and was sulking all year about getting dumped by Vegas.
Crosby contract announcement will be August 7th.
I think it's time to accept that it's over for the current Penguins group. It was a great run but it's time to rebuild.
Even if he wanted to, the Avs would not take him UNLESS we trade Colton first, and we can get his cap down to about $4M at least
The core is fine. They need speed. Jake was a loss but Sid can always find his Robin. There was so many problems last year and is was transparent in late Jan early Feb. They can't be 30th in PP and be sloppy between the blue lines. I question Jarry as well.
Whatever happens, Go Pens! 🐧
as a pens fan I'd love to see sid stay in the burgh until he hangs it up, he's less than 130 points from becoming the franchise points leader. but all the guy wants to do is stop losing. i actually think sid hates losing more than he loves winning, and to be honest, unless a serious change happens soon the pens will be losing alot more before they start winning again
Omg I want to go back to the 80s please god
With the Avs as my #1 team, of course I'd love to have Crosby on the Avs. I really doubt he leaves Pittsburgh and would be happy to see a great player wrap up his career where he's been all along
why would he join the avs?
Anyone even consider Sid may retire. He's got nothing left to prove. Maybe go out on a high. He had a great year and almost single-handedly dragged the aging Penguins into the playoffs. Does he really want to spend the next 3-4 years steady declining getting shunted down the lineup until he's doing 4th line minutes and is no longer relevant to the game? And maybe doing it in a different uniform.
exactly my point. He should just retire. Even though he's still playing the best hockey of his life he should retire. Otherwise pens fans will be sad.
He’s not going to leave. He’s too loyal to Pittsburgh. He made Geno and Letang stay with him. What we have is what other teams don’t have and that’s a loyal captain. Other than the bruins
Loyal to who? the logo? this is a business not a playground. There's two reasons to play professional hockey. Money or Glory. If the Pens don't pay he should leave.
@@remimk u sound dumb. Loyal to the fan base and team. He’s going to stay regardless and yeah they r going to pay.
@@remimk loyal to the team and fan base. Ur comment makes no sense. U don’t know anything about the pens or hockey. U play for the love of the game, not bc of money or glory. Go touch grass
as a tampa guy whose team is pretty ruthless, i respect if sid and PIT continue to stay together. imo i think crosby should leave and go to say, COL for a last gasp for cups.
reality says, i don't see crosby leaving though bcuz of the loyalty he has to the penguins.
that loyalty didn't save his partners from getting traded. Theyre keeping him because of the marketing of "Crosby" he's the most famous player in the league (imo) without him they'll lose business.
@@remimk"partners"? Who other than Jake, did they trade?
Cant see Sid leaving
People said stamkos would never leave. But if Pittsburgh doesn’t offer him his value, he will leave.
I don't think Bourque (Ray not Phil) had a NMC, but he got dealt, 99 got dealt, how soon we forget, 91 was bounced for a 29 year old, NHL is much more 'ruthless' vs other times. People assume 87 will play his twilight on a 14th place team? Nah...
I'm tired of the Leafs being used as an exit swan song for old players.
Ya I love seeing stars in the Leafs jersey but it HAS to help with the end goal of getting the team to the cup!
If Crosby were to be both willing to move on, and come to the leafs, he would still very much be a big acquisition towards the goal
@@Kyt2024 Crosby's two way play is amazing, like Dave Keon, a great backhand, great playmaker, and a good defensive player. The kind of franchise player you need, even if he ages, he'll have his defensive instincts. Good defensive players last longer because unlike offense only players, their defensive play can make them an asset still.
Having said that, he would be an asset in Pittsburgh to guide the next generation.
@@20thCenturyManTrad the problem right now is that there is no next generation in Pittsburgh’s system. They either need to blow a ton of futures to try to fix the current team or tear it down and enter a rebuild
@@Kyt2024 Yup, it's a tough spot. The problem is, even good prospects aren't guarantees. I'm a Leafs' fan and would love Crosby on my team, but he seems to have some old school ways about loyalty to his organization. I wouldn't venture a prediction though. It's a cut throat era.
Nah bro, Sidney is Canadian and a loyal one at that. He's staying in Pittsburgh for the rest of his days. Love ya Sid the Kid.
Loyal to who? a logo? They traded his linemates already. Like people say, This is a business. And Crosby has no business in Pittsburg. Pitt should either pay Crosby a kings ransom, or he should leave to find greater riches or glory. Retirement is the only other option
I still feel like Hextall was the death sentence for that team. But i truthfully feel like he's going to retire as a penguin
I hope he moves and goes to a team that can win some cups
Their only chance of competing during the remainder of Crosbys career is doing exactly what they’re doing. Trying to surround them with good, key word good, young talent. Had they been smart enough to do this 3 years ago, they’d be in a great spot atm with a good mix. It might be a little too late, but it’s the only shot either way. They have some real bright young players who may be inside 2 years or less and making an impact. If you think they should continue to mortgage that and acquire more aging and expensive talent, you’re either Ron Hextall or thank god you’re nowhere near management of this team.
Sid won't leave Pittsburgh. He took a pretty big pay cut throughout his prime and that 12 year deal so they'd have enough left for the other guys, he's not gonna go somewhere else for a payday now and he's got 3 cups, no need to go hunting for more with another team. Only way he leaves is if they trade him.
So why play at all? if its not for money and not for glory then why bother? just retire. It's silly to expect such a great player to not go for the best salary possible OR a chance at the cup. why else would a professional hockey player be in this business???
@@remimk My point is he already has those things (money and glory of winning on every top level) and has already taken a pay cut for 12 years with Pittsburgh who he's won 3 cups with in his prime. He's not going to leave now for an extra mil and a chance at one more cup, that'd make no sense at this point.
After what Stamkos did, it wouldn't be out of the picture. I feel he may want to join a Canadian team to help them win a cup since '93 but honestly Colorado seems like the right spot for him.
tbh tampa has cutthroat management but players walk all over dubas. Dubas has a sore spot for keeping cores together even if it doesn't make sense.
@@anonymous134y yeah I forgot about Toronto’s core 4
Crosby winning the cup for canada would solidify him as my favourite player of all time. Golden goal AND a cup?? He would be a Canadian Legend
If you think Crosby’s ever leaving Pittsburgh I need the weed you have because you’re way higher than I am
his agent said something and i´m going with this... means, i´m a die hard pens fan but, he did it all 4 us and when the pens don´t get a competitive team together, cause sid is still producing like hell... let him go elsewhere, gretzky did it, jagr did it and so on.... it would be fair...
imagine he goes to the caps
I don't see Lemieux allowing Dubas to mess things up with Sid. If just one owner in this league knows what a true franchise player all the way to the end means to an organisation, its fanbase and the overall culture of a team, it's him.
Plus Sid only earns 8.7M$ while still being one of the best players in the league. That's completely fathomable for an NHL GM, what Treliving has to deal with in Toronto with those insane amounts on just 4 guys not one of 'em being a superstar D is much more problematic. Back to Pittsburgh the Karlsson contract will also become more of a problem much sooner than extending Crosby for a few years at the same salary would be.