Let's Examine The Updated Ovechkin Goal Record Chase
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- Nhl hockey - Alex ovechkin goals have been a staple in the NHL for over a deacade and a half, but now that he's inching closer to the wayne gretzky goal record , but is having crazy ups and downs, it's still very much up in the air. Ovechkin gretzky will continue to be a hot topic entering next season, and since he already has his stanley cup and especially after his nhl playoffs 2024 series sweep washington capitals vs new york rangers , Alex ovechkin highlights will be very interesting for 24-25. For all things nhl news today , nhl hockey highlights recaps rankings reactions play breakdowns and player videos like this one on ovi breaking the record . Nhl today
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What is wild about Ovie is all of the what if's. The lockout years, the COVID shortened seasons, his birthday falling 2 days later than the NHL Draft inclusion date. If you factor that in, it is incredible that he's sniffing this record. If he had those games back, he'd have surpassed the record already. He 100% is the best goal scorer to ever play in the NHL - era adjusted or not. I can't wait to see him score 895.
If all those "what if's" would have fallen Ovie's way we 100% would be sitting here today saying "does Ovie hit 1000?" ... wait no, actually it would be "when does Ovie hit 1000?"
Valid points, but "what ifs" don't matter... they just don't. What ifs are excuses, period.
@@mrkang4080 no those are facts.
@@shawnhunt1262 Fanboy is butthurt... oh well.
@@chrismac5560 If you're playing what ifs then you should remember that Gretzky spent his first pro year in another league and Howe spent 6 years in the NHA. So if what ifs were part of it then Ovi wouldn't be chasing 894 but a number well into the 900s.
I’ll be mind-blown if Ovi doesn’t break the record, he’s 42 away and he’s committed to 2 more full seasons. We’re gonna see history folks.
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That’s what I was thinking!!
I don't think Ovi retires until he gets the record.
Unfortunately, he's already said he's retiring from the NHL after this contract is up. He wants to go back and play for Dynamo before fully retiring
@@ClonedChaos He misses scoring goals on a whim like he would on the Dynamo. I don't think he's having fun like he used too, and it feels more like a job to him now. He knows he only can score from the circle without trying anything new really. Watching him as a rookie was the most fun thing to watch ever in hockey. Scoring 100 goals a year on the Dynamo without even trying and messing around a bit I'm sure will perk him back up.
The amount of fans he brought to the caps is insane and the caps feel like they are in debt which is why they keep building a team around an aging ovi.
He'll be out there with one of those skating walkers I see toddlers use at my local rink if he has to.
@@ClonedChaos Yeah well stuff like that can change in an instant I would not put that much weight into it
As a long time Caps fan let me make this clear
Ovi will break this record
Caps organization will not let him retire before record
Caps team need a new play-makers to help Ovi
The history will be made in next two seasons
He was dealing with an injury earlier in the season and was also dealing with the loss of his father. In the second half he started to pick things up and still managed to score 31 goals. He only needs 42 goals to pass, and it would not surprise me if he did it next season. At the very least, he'll score at least 21 goals the next 2 seasons. Caps had no business being in the playoffs and I think Ovie knew that.
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I wasn’t an OV fan but when he won the cup he was so happy, he won me over. He changed a lot of stuff like goal celebrations. He is the master of the one timer. He’ll get the record for sure. The Capitals team are focused on helping him reach this milestone.
I've seen Ovie's entire career, and man do I want him to break the record SO BADLY. What an absolutely unbelievable accomplishment it'd be. As soon as he gets within 3 of actually BREAKING the record (892, not 891) I'll be tuning in to every Caps game. I just hope that when he does break it (*knocks on wood for good health) that the announcer makes a great call, a Gary Thorne level call. I feel like he's the only guy that would do it proper justice
only an injury that ends his career can prevent him from getting that record. if he is 5-10 goals shy after 2 seasons. Caps will sign him for another season.
H me has already stated multiple times he’s retiring at the end of his contract to play one more season with Dynamo, so he can close out his career where it started.
why not. They have already ruined their future by hanging on to a depreciating asset so he can chase a record that is not team oriented.
He won't be 5-10 goals shy. He just needs 21 goal seasons back to back. Which he will do easily. In his last 24 games he had 18 goals this year and people say he's washed. Even if he's washed, a 20 goal season for Ovi is nothing.
@@paulkellygolf3671I mean, they did just make the playoffs after getting off to a truly awful start of the season. They may have not sold their future as much as everyone thinks.
@@Falllll lets not kid ourselves here buddy
He’s hitting 50 this year I’m pretty confident about it as long as he stays healthy & hot. Most fifty goal season of all time incoming because once he’s getting close to THE record nothing will stop him. Specially now Caps have a great team.
I am completely confident that he's going to get the record. When talking about his regression in the first half of this season, a lot of people forget that his father passed away and he got injured
I hope Backstrom can make a comeback. How sweet would it be if goal #895 was a primary assist from number 19?
Unfortunately I think backy is retiring, both of his hips that he had surgeries on just don’t work anymore he can’t skate the same anymore because of that
@@tygod2410I think he retires too, the guy definitely deserves to take care of himself now he did his part his whole career won the cup and got 1000 points.
If Ovechkin played his entire career against the 1910s goaltending, With modern equipment and training, with a 84 game schedule each year he would have 3000 goals
He gets it in the 25-26 season in game 17 since 99 - 82 = 17. Science
Ovie would have a thousand if it wasn't for the 2 lockouts 2 covid session s and the size of the goaltender equipment. Hand's down the greatest goal scorer EVER
Honestly, I think he does it this year. He’s within range and he’s no stranger to 50 goal seasons.
I don't think he will hit 50 but 42 is definetely possible if he is healthy and plays 80 games. 22-23 was his last chance to score 50 but instead he did 42 in 73 games he missed and played some games with injury. But he has slowed down from that year. This season though his second half was surpricingly strong as last seasons he has usually started hot then cooled off.
I think a thing people overlook sometimes is that our NHL hero's are also just humans.
The guys dad died Feb 2023. Any talk of how his numbers were down in the fall of 2023 that doesn't consider that the dude was/is grieving is kinda odd to me.
Like, it's a bit of a downer to talk about on your sports/entertaiment/analysis channel, so i get it, but grief and bereavement is usually a multi year process for people.
I'm glad the guy bounced back at the end of the 2024 season and has a chance to pursue a record it looks like he wants to pursue.
Especially for athletes where their parents are almost always huge influences on their having gotten into the sport. Many pros' first fan and coach was a parent. With a sport like hockey, that was probably the parents taking the young future-pro to games and practices, paying for equipment, cheering them on...
Ovechkin would have already passed Gretzky, which already cements him as the greatest goal scorer of all time. he had 2 lockout seasons, which would have already made him chase 1000. Ovechkin is the greatest goal scorer of all time period.
Gretz had a lockout and back injury. He never scored much after that but there’s no doubt that Ovi is the best goal scorer of all time.
If Gretzky didn't retire at the age he did and played as long as Ovi, I don't think anyone would of caught him.
@YukiPyro he retired at 39 and scored 9 goals his last season what are you talking about lol
Don't forget the 2 covid shortened years as well. All in all, dude is knocking on the doorstep with the league and PA screwing him outta 1.5 seasons and covid getting another .5-.6 of a season. He'd also have sole possession of most 50 goal seasons as well. Dude is an animal
Will putin b in the audience when he gets it lol f--- Russia
He should get it in the last year of his deal. Good for him, I'm happy to see Gretzky share one of his records with someone else.
I don't understand the need for folks to bash either Ovi or Gretzky. They're two completely different players and with thew exception of this one item have very little professional overlap.
People who bash Ovie are ridiculous. Like, Gretzky very much wants Ovie to take the record.
The picture of him looking like a small grizzly bear baffles me, because theres a photo posted like 2-3 days earlier than that where hes shirtless and he doesnt look nearly as big. Idk though 🤔🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yeah it's a 100% altered image.
The Internet is so dumb sometimes.
Best goal scorer in history screwed by multiple lockouts, a pandemic and playing in a cap limited roster build
Ovi is a beast and I would agree in that he is the best goal scorer of all time, though worth noting overall games played in regular season is 1487 Gretzky vs 1426. Gretzky is actually ahead in goals per game played (slightly)
@@lilpigboy he also played in an era where goaltenders weren’t as skilled or padded up
I think people who say he won't break it aren't really watching caps games. He's going to do it.
Yeah, he scored more than 30 with very little scoring support. Backstrom was gone. Kuznetsov was on another line most of the time. When he played with Strome, he mostly set Strome up, so that went the other way. (Ovie's one of the more underrated playmakers in the league.) He needs a purer playmaking center, and another threat on his wing to scare the defense.
He definetly will get the record. Its just matter of time. Maybe not next season but season after that for suuuuure
I understand that players are faster and stronger now than when Gretzky played, however it’s all relative. Superstars are also that much better, faster and stronger. Same with how power plays are run, stick technology. If he can stay healthy I think he will break it, but I don’t think he plays just to break it.
His last game at the bell centre in his final year in the contract. He loves the bell centre, his career success in the building, and the city of Montreal’s love for the game.
Hockey is a game of emotional swings. It's built on the tilt.
I bet we see him come out guns blazing in the first half of next season scoring a quick 20 causing everyone to think he is going to get it next season. Then tapering off to end it with 32 goals. Breaking it in his last year of his contract.
Ovechkin scored 33 goals in 2016/2017 and scored 49 the season after that. Ovi breaking that record next season.
Ovi flipped the switch on 1/28/2024, in the game against the Dallas Stars.
Since that game, he scored 23 goals in 36 games, an average of .639/game.
Before that game, he scored 8 goals in 43 games, an average of .186/game.
If he maintains his latter form, he'll break the record this coming season for sure. He just needs 66 games to break it.
However, if he scores at a .186/game pace, he may as well forget it. We are talking about 15 goals/season. He'll need almost three full seasons to get 42 goals.
I have never followed the Capitals that much, but I would love for Alexander to get that record. For him, for the Caps and for Hockey :)
Bossy is the purest goal scorer of all time.
If not for the lockouts and covid he would be over 900 already.
Ifs don't count.
If lemiuex was healthy he beats both.
@@dylan15243 if's don't count as that is speculative and not reality. If we want to include if's then we could say, "if" Gretzky hadn't been traded to LA and had stayed on Edmonton with that lineup he would have 1300 goals. However, if's don't matter.
@@paulkellygolf3671 ifs do matter. Its always interesting to wonder what if. If you don't want to then leave it to the people that do.
He will break it. And we will be watching. All of us.
Possibly the craziest NHL fact is that if Gretzky never scored a single goal in his career, he would still be the NHL's all-time points leader. Think about how dominant of a goal scorer any player would have to be in order to even sniff Gretzky's record, like we have seen with Ovechkin, and compare that to the fact that goal scoring wasn't even the most advanced part of Gretzky's game.
yes, yes. We all know that stat. Gretz is the greatest. No record will ever take that title away from him. I always see many commenters saying "Well Gretz did this" or "99 did that" especially when it comes to Ovi chasing his record down. Wayne Gretzky was the most dominant player that ever lived and that's also largely in part that Mario Lemieux never had the luxury of health on his side. Truth is, when Ovi breaks the goal scoring record, many in the hockey world are going to regard Ovechkin as the greatest goal scorer of all time. It doesn't necessarily mean greatest hockey player of all time. That title will always belong to Wayne
@@codekhalil6437 Oh for sure. I didn't mean to discredit Ovi in any way, in fact I personally believe that he is the greatest goal scorer ever despite not having broken Gretzky's record yet. I was just pointing out how insanely dominant 99 was as a playmaker.
@@codekhalil6437 Taking nothing away from Wayne but if the Pens had the talent the Oilers did for as long as they did, I think Mario would have beaten Wayne's numbers. 92-93 is a great example of just how amazing Mario was.
I think he’ll get 20+ this coming season. What he will do in 25/26 is the big question.
I hope Ovi does it, it'll be exciting to watch. It would be a tragedy if he comes this close and doesn't do it.
Ovi will get it. He'll play until hes 45 if he has to
It's wild to me how many analysts and content creators just keep ignoring that he was dealing with the death of his father at the beginning of the season as if it wouldn't affect his goal scoring. I think he was also dealing with a bit of a nagging injury. *You* lose your father and see how well you can focus at your job while playing through injury, nevermind playing against the best hockey players in the world while you deal with it.
Like put this into context:
At game 43 of the regular season, he had 9 goals.
By game 82, he had 31. He scored 22 goals in 39 games to finish the season.
He's going to be the first player to score 900 goals.
You either break the record this season on 21 January when the caps play at Edmonton or February 23, when the cats play Edmonton at home
Oils fan and a Gretzky fan boi here, he will do it. I never thought he was a great player but damn good for him!
You can definitely critique Ovi for a few elements of his game ... but to say you never thought he was a great player while speaking on the fact he's likely to become the greatest goal scorer in NHL history just seems contradictory. Not only is he a great player, he's the greatest goal scorer of all time. The greatest player of all time? Of course not because like I said, he's got flaws in his game, but he's absolutely somewhere in the top 50 players of all time.
@@jeddysteve8330 not contradictory at all just never paid him any attention. Simple as that. Anyways he wont hold the title for very long anyways.
@@CheddaFett I'm pretty confident he'll hold it for a decent bit. The only pure goal scorer that could push that record now is Matthews, but I doubt he'll have a healthy (in terms of injuries; similar to how Lemieux could have seriously pushed Gretzky had he been healthy) career like Ovi did, so whether it actually happens or not is another story. I'm positive another prospect will come along and dominate the league to the point Ovi's record gets broken; especially considering Ovi had to play in two lockouts and the pandemic. I don't see that happening for at least a few decades though, so until then Ovi will own that title as the greatest goal scorer of all time.
I hope he gets it, the hardship he has endured until 2018 for his first cup, and now he is so close to being the player with the most goals scored in the league
I was looking at this a few weeks ago lol
Still pretty amazing that Gretzkys records have held up for this long
I read something on Reddit that talked about CCM not making is spec sticks anymore, apparently he found an off brand to building him what he needs.
I know he will be the new all time leader, I would love to see the next Gordie and someone hit twine in their "golden years"🤙
21 goals per year should be achievable unless unforeseen injuries occur. Most likely he will pass Wayne in the last year of his contract, I don't see him scoring 42 next year. But it would be if he scores 41 or 42 next year and then I guarantee that the NHL would schedule WAS-EDM as the season opener.
He's definitely getting it. Even if he doesn't get it before the end of his contract, the Caps will resign him to 1-year deals until he gets it, even if it takes another 10 years. It would take a career ending injury to stop him at this point.
obviously, 895 would be amazing...but I wanna see him break 900. Just because "Mr. 900" would be a legendary nickname to easily encapsulate the achievement. The only 900+ goal scorer in league history.
He'll get it midway through 25-26 season
I think Ovechkin will get the recordl, but Gretzky himself has said you cannot compare players from different eras. He has also said you will never convince him he's a better than Gordie Howe.
Watching the Caps offense in 2023-24 was brutal.
Ovi had Backstrom on his side for most of his career. Without Backstrom's playmaking, the offense became one of the most pathetic in the league. And his career is more or less over.
They need a first-line center really bad. Can Pierre-Luc be the next Backstrom?
People are worrying too much. He’ll get it in 2 season.
I'm sure he breaks the record, I don't personally want him to because that is all he is playing for and has been for a couple of seasons now. If he were playing to really try for the cup again I'd be okay with him breaking it. However I think before long we will be discussing McDavid breaking Ovi's record, so it won't stand long I don't think.
mcoverrated wont break the record cause hes a playmaker and doesnt have the longevity. Cope cause ovi will break it and no one will ever break his or at least not for decades to come
I wouldn't overanalyze his performance in the Rangers series. The Caps were always going to get blown out.
he had a major stick issue-Spencer Carbery, once he got it figured out he scored at a 0.69 goal pace from jan-april, im not saying he will get 42 next season but he'll get close minimum
He'll get it, and im sure his teamates will set him up, dish it to him more, help him get the record 👍
He's got one more 50 goal season comin up
On his last season January 19, he will score his last goal to break wing Gretzky goal record
Give me December 17th, 2025 against a division rival with a 2 goal game to tie and break the record
He can do it but mark my words the moment he gets close some young Canadian (Like Rempe) is gonna put him out of commission.
oH, he will tag the record for sure... come on!
Theres no question if he breaks it, save for serious injury or such.40-something goals is two, max three seasons for him. Or one, if he keeps the phase he had sicne all stars break..
He will break the record in 783 days
I genuinely want to see him break the Great One's record!
He gets it. But 8 years later McDavid smokes it, then 8 years later Bedard smokes McD's. Over 1000 by then
Ovi will break the record and retire north of 900 goals. The question in the '24-'25 season is how many puck handlers are the Caps bringing in in the offseason. Losing Backstrom put a heavy burden on Ovi as the Power Play especially needs that Backstrom style yo-yo artist to lure the PK formation away from Ovi. Also, Backstrom didn't need to swing the puck to the QB before getting to Ovi, sometimes he'd sauce it to the where 1-timers might ruin a goalie's mask. All that said, Washington needs help.
He'll break it by a handful of goals and call it a career. It will take a couple seasons but the games leading up to the record are going to be watched by the whole world
well if he tries something different and actually sticks to working out he can probably come back a recharged man. If he slacks he'll definitely come short of the record next season and will have to play the 25-26 season as slowvechkin.
Gretzky scored a lot more goals in his prime than Ovechkin, true, there was just plain more goals being scored altogether during those years but when Gretzky got his career high 92, he had 44% more than 2nd place Bossy, when Ovi got his career high 65, he was 25% ahead of 2nd place Kovalchuk. I also believe Lemieux, probably Richard and Howe were better goal scorers than him but Richard and Howe played during the original 6 and Lemieux was always hurt. 2 things that were remarkable about Ovi is that he never had a major injury that caused him to miss a good chunk of any season and unlike Gretzky, who got his last 50 g season at age 28, Ovi kept scoring 50 a year til his mid 30s.
Ovi will break the record in 2 years & he will become the only player to make the 900 goal club!
His dad only passed a year ago. Breaking the record without him here, maybe he just lost the drive for the first half of season. I can’t imagine it not affecting him.
I say he gets the 43 this year 2024-25 season & may just stop caring after that if the Caps suck.
I'm gonna say game 79 of the next season. He's gonna have a bit of luck with bounces combined with an extreme appetite for the back of the net.
I think he'll get about 35 next season, unless he gets injured of course. Even a minor injury could tank his production. Hopefully he doesn't strain something in the off-season.
He scored 31 last year, and there was a long enough drought that I don't think this year's gonna be *too* much slower. He probably scores around 27 or 28, leaving him with 14 or 15. As long as he doesn't have a major injury, that's pretty realistic.
Mostly, I just don't think he's going to crush the record anymore. He probably retires with between 10-20 goals over the record, depending how healthy he is.
He's joked that he'll retire the same day he breaks the record, which would be hilarious.
Ovechkin is gonna play till he gets the record
Wasn’t he without backstrom the entire season? Once he gets him back, I expect goal scoring to increase
Washington should trade for Marner. And sign another playmaker. Put a couple playmakers on that line and let him rip. Sacrifice futures or whatever you need to do to get this guy his record. The franchise can take a hit to get this guy what he deserves.
The Most un Hockey thing i have ever read.
@@johanjotun1647 just learned how to read this week? Good for you fella!
I wonder if in team practices, if Ovechkin stands at the blue line or faceoff circle with his basket of cherries while his teammates do the real work OR is that just his playoff basket he fills.
Gretzky tried so hard to get the puck to his teammates so they could score while Ovechkin has every teammate trying to get him the puck and goals. It was disgusting watching him in the playoffs. Lazy or just tired, he hurt his team by being on the ice.
Gretzky could have played longer and scored hundreds more goals, if he was greadily chasing someones record.
Butt-hurt Canadian. It doesn't matter if he's hurting the team. The Caps are basically rebuilding. They exist right now to give him a chance to beat the record. Him beating that record will be the biggest thing that's happened in the sport in quite some time. And no one expected the Caps to win that playoff series. They limped in, and Ovechkin was clamped down because the team has no other real scoring threats. Do something.
Gretzky was a much more active player then Ovi, but he retired at 39 as a 9 goal scorer. He has seasons of 23 and 25 before that. He would have had to play to 47 to hit hundreds more goals at that pace
clearly you are a new fan otherwise you know how much recency bias you have
He’s a goal scorer it’s stupid to compare a playmaker center to him. His job is to score goals. And btw he got a lot of assists this year. I think he lead the team in assists out of the forwards
@@morrisalanisette9067 thank you i mean yah he has nearly 700 assists to go along with his 850+ goals am i right?
His shooting percentage was so low for the 1st half of last year that it screamed anomaly. I predicted that his shooting percentage would come closer to his mean at some point, and he'd start scoring. He did just that. If Ovi maintains a ridiculously low shooting percentage, which he has never done, he wont break the record. Id bet money that next year, he returns to his mean, and ends the season with the record broken.. or just a few goals away.
"im going to do something different in the offseason"
aka "yeaaaaa im fat and outta shape i gotta do something"
-my opinion lol
I'm sorry but at 1:18 you can literally see his 33 goal season in 16 17
my guess is 20-30 goals next season, wish for more, but you cant fight age.
It may be a little early to say but I think Matthews is going to beat this record at around the age of 35 and right around 1100-1200 gp
People seem to forget Gretzky only scored 10 goals in his final season. Even the great one hit the wall, he may just come up short.
I like him. A lot. If he breaks Gretz's record, so be it. But I don't think he plays much longer. Father time has spoken.
He's already confirmed he's planning on retiring NHL hockey after his contract expires. He's going back to Russia to play out his last days to experience where it all began for him.
backstrom back he will score 50
Can u rate hockey arenas again?
Go OVI
I hope he breaks the record but I think the nhl will stop that😢😢
bettman has said many times he wants him to do it and gretzky himself too
i hope he doesn't score another goal.
you talk about era adjusted, but how about Russian ped adjusted?
If he has a good offseason he could get 35 goals next year.
March 21st, 2025 Goal #42
This may be a hot take, but comparing generations is dumb...yes it was "easier to score" because of athleticism, equipment and training but it goes both ways.
Would it also not have been harder to score because forwards crushed beers between periods and everyone had wooden sticks...not to mention the no 2 line passes, no touch icing and the like?
I could be off base but just take the stats on face value and whoever comes out on top is truly the cream of the crop🤷
exactly each era had its own style
Here's what I say to anyone: Athletes are like technology. They only get better. The best players to ever play this sport are playing it right now, and there's no sound argument to the contrary.
@@jon8004 So you think every hockey player today is better than Wayne Gretsky? If they truly "only get better" and "the best players to ever play the sports are playing it right now," that would be the case; but anyone with any sense knows that is false. Sit down, Waldo.
@@jlmoses16Gretzky is not the greatest hockey player of all time, he was great for his era.
@@LaSTBlazin You completely missed my point. If Gretzky would even be a DECENT player in today's NHL, Waldo's argument falls flat.
He’s going to do it
He will beat the record in March of 2026.
I'm thinking he will need majority of the next two seasons unless he gets some help, it's hard to replace Nik.B.
Ovie can play until he's 50
He needs to hire Gary Roberts in the off season
He will play until he breaks the record.
50/50 at best for him to break the record.
Mock draft?
Gretzky retired at 38. If Ovi doesn’t get the goals before he turns 39, then it doesn’t matter.
Gretzky has played more games than Ovi has. The retirement age is meaningless considering Ovi played through two lockouts and a pandemic, meaning he would have already surpassed his record by now if he was able to play full seasons.