My climbing instructor once took me about 10 metres to the right of the normal and good route and I asked why and he said other climbers where above us. And yeah just minutes later they dislodged a rock and it fell right beside us
I don’t get why people comment things like this, as though climbing is an abjectly ridiculous thing to do. I’ve never felt that unsafe climbing and it’s given me some of my most rewarding life experiences and relationships.
@@talex3844 Because the rational thing to think is: (High Cliff + Climb) = can result in ( Big Fall + Death), which in case you were unaware is pretty detrimental to ones health.
@@princeofexcess actually, it depends on the person and his experience : some people have no fear from the start (sometimes too few) and some need to work on their apprehension of falls
As a long-haul truck driver I tap with my hammer on rims or beams of a underneath trailer and if one has crack you will hear it, there is completely different sound of broken, cracked metal, often you can't see the cracks.
When your livelihood is in your hands, you tend to be really careful. It's fun to take risks in life; to be in precarious places relying on your will is nice feeling compared to the usual safe monotony of life. That being said, it's no so much about the risk in and of it self - that's just a byproduct. It's about experiencing the world around you and feeling alive. Building up your confidence with preparation & practice paired with a safety mindset *minimizes* accidents... but you know what they say: shit happens. Source: I do this. If you drive a vehicle surrounded by morons driving their vehicles, you're already doing something more inherently dangerous and riskier than climbing on a rock... and it's likely more stressful than it is fun. Food for thought.
I once just climbed down a 4 meter cliff and accidentally grabbed a loose rock and fell down sprained my foot and all the rocks diffrent sizes came raining down on me and a broke my arm and got knocked out (I was 10 and alone) and woke up had to climb the cliff with a broken arm and go back to house so my grandad and uncle could take me too the hospital😐
at our local crags the basic rule is if it's bolted it's safe. People go out every spring with big metal spikes and crowbars to remove any loose rocks before the climbing season being.
This is why I'm now an indoor boulderer only. Outdoor climbing is fun but its also more dangerous, and more work to get in the same variety as the gym. Indoor climbing + hiking is the sweet spot in my opinion.
I free soloed for decades. One day at the pinnacles in California I had the climb under control skill wise and the hold on my right hand broke. I plummeted and broke my entire lower back, pelvis, coccyx and sacrum. Even if you have a climb under control, rocks can break
Didn’t see an x my first time leading sport and decked f before clipping the second bolt. Had a pretty memorable hike out and couldn’t walk for a couple weeks lol
Does it matter to you if it is a frequently climbed route or are you cautious like this on all climbs? Really curious because I did not yet got into the zone where I can have awarness of anything else then "dont fall... dont fall... dont fall..." yet... I tend to climb in very busy sportclimbing areas but have been on some multipitchclimbs and i loved it. So I think evolving a healthy habit like you example, could be a good idea! Any tipp how to shift your focus on anything else then the fear of falling?
@@MrBoubource it has happened to me. And there are many deaths attributed to rock fall cutting ropes in mountaineering and rock climbing. Depending on where you are climbing will affect the risk of it happening. Some areas are more prone to loose rock.
I was just thinking how tragic it is going to be if people are super careful while climbing. I see some videos of people climbing on stuff that looks doomed to crumble. I pray that people are safe when climbing.
I pulled out a human sized rock two weeks ago and took a 10m fall before the rope caught me. Since it was easy terrain I didn't have a free fall and hit the wall mid way, breaking my foot. Why did it happen? Because it was a well established route that is frequently climbed (there were people on it just ahead of us) so I didn't expect loose rocks. So I climbed too carelessly, even though bolts were about 5m apart and it was a clear no-fall zone. I'm really glad that no one got hit by the hundreds of kilos of rock that came down but I'm also glad that we were using a semi-automatic belay device even though it was a multi pitch route where people often belay using a munter hitch. Otherwise if the rocks had hit my belayer, we would have both died. So lessons learned? Be very aware of when it is ok to fall and when it isn't and climb super carefully if falling is not an option, even in easy terrain and even when you expect good rock quality.
I jammed my hand in a crack behind this big several hundred pound rock that was more or less over me on a cliff once and the whole thing moved out an inch or so. It didn't fall but I wasted no time skittering across the cliff to get the F out of there. The guy that followed me asked how I got across the more or less blank rock just past the loose rock and I couldn't tell him. I was too panicked to pay attention after I felt that rock move.
Usually TH-cam recommends videos where there's some twist, like he falls down after not listening to his own advice. Kinda bummed that didn't happen here.
The worst thing that can happen is dislodging a large rock that you've clipped into, because you and the rock will meet where the rope is tied to your harness.
All over the place in the US. I've been into Canada a bit and seen it too. Sometimes people X off things to fuck with people though. Luckily, X's typically appear on routes with lots of big holds, so you can just avoid them and be on your way. I almost always start checking rocks when I see an X on a route through. To me, it's a sign that there are probably bad rocks that haven't been found yet.
I X holds all the time. My son and I will use something like Presidential Boulder (Yosemite) and treat it like a moonboard…and play horse or something.
i think everyone who ever climbed in a warm/hot country has seen a few skinks scuttling away from them on the cliff. When I used to climb in Australia though, every time I saw a scaly tail poking out a crack/crevice I was worried it was a snake ... it never was but a few of my friends had tales of snake encounters on the cliff
that route looks like super choss! if you want to cut back on the risk of pulling blocks off the wall, maybe start by avoiding shitty ass routes like this one.
If you dropped your rope, you'd best call a rescue team! As a general rule, your rope should always be securely tied to someone or something until everyone is back on the ground. E.g. when the climber reaches the anchor and unties to belay the follower, they should clip their harness to the anchor (through a PAS), tie the rope to the anchor, untie themselves from the rope, feed the rope through the anchor and belay device, and then untie the rope from the anchor. Although the order of the steps can vary slightly, at no point in the process is the rope left unsecured, because if the leader drops the rope... well then they're stuck dangling from the anchor until help can climb up to save them :P
The X clearly means a treassure is hiding underneath.
you're probably right, how could I have missed it?
@@NoahKaneoof😅
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
@@NoahKaneby being the dumbass who climbs cliffs
If I saw the X I would’ve thought that it was good to grab 😬
well, now you know not to!
Good thing you don’t climb 😅
It's not a treasure bro 💀 😂
@@MrThidious 😂
yeah X says "I'm the one"
My climbing instructor once took me about 10 metres to the right of the normal and good route and I asked why and he said other climbers where above us. And yeah just minutes later they dislodged a rock and it fell right beside us
Him: Testing the rock with his hands to check the quality of it
Me: Yup that is definitely a rock 😂
get a job, hippy
have you ever actually tried though? It's very obvious when the rock is loose. Doesn't take an expert
I personally rely on not climbing up sheer cliffs to avoid that ever happening to me, like, ever.
Now this is what i'm talking about!
Another entry for me book: Irishmen Who Survived Climbing Sheer Cliffs By Not Climbing - In Alphabetical Order.
Wow what do you know I was thinking of doing the same thing
I don’t get why people comment things like this, as though climbing is an abjectly ridiculous thing to do. I’ve never felt that unsafe climbing and it’s given me some of my most rewarding life experiences and relationships.
@@talex3844 Because the rational thing to think is:
(High Cliff + Climb) = can result in ( Big Fall + Death), which in case you were unaware is pretty detrimental to ones health.
This is pretty scary I was like "please don't fall please don't fall please don't fall" the whole video
haha, thanks for the kind wishes!
Bruh he was lead climbing not free soloing
Still nerve-wracking that the x'ed hold still looked good
you should try it. You also go "please don't fall" when youre the one doing it. :]
@@princeofexcess actually, it depends on the person and his experience : some people have no fear from the start (sometimes too few) and some need to work on their apprehension of falls
Don't worry! If he were to fall he would of never posted the video and therefore you would never see him fall! *or see him ever again.*
We used to say “ climb it like you’re putting it back together “ on really loose pitches.
Jeseez
pretty nice guy , to mark that rock mid climb , i would be sceared shitless
Mark all the rock to trap a climber in one spot, then climb up his ass and mark the below rocks, climber will be trapped for eternity 😃
Be scared*
*scared , who would make such an easy spelling mistake 😂
Climbers: avoid questions from hikers at all costs
This guy: makes money educating those we ignored
“What are you kids carrying on your back? Do you sleep on that?”
It’s a bouldering pad, and yes.
As a long-haul truck driver I tap with my hammer on rims or beams of a underneath trailer and if one has crack you will hear it, there is completely different sound of broken, cracked metal, often you can't see the cracks.
I have no idea why people would ever do this voluntarily 😂 But I have big respect
When your livelihood is in your hands, you tend to be really careful. It's fun to take risks in life; to be in precarious places relying on your will is nice feeling compared to the usual safe monotony of life. That being said, it's no so much about the risk in and of it self - that's just a byproduct. It's about experiencing the world around you and feeling alive. Building up your confidence with preparation & practice paired with a safety mindset *minimizes* accidents... but you know what they say: shit happens.
Source: I do this.
If you drive a vehicle surrounded by morons driving their vehicles, you're already doing something more inherently dangerous and riskier than climbing on a rock... and it's likely more stressful than it is fun. Food for thought.
i just find it really fun
I once just climbed down a 4 meter cliff and accidentally grabbed a loose rock and fell down sprained my foot and all the rocks diffrent sizes came raining down on me and a broke my arm and got knocked out (I was 10 and alone) and woke up had to climb the cliff with a broken arm and go back to house so my grandad and uncle could take me too the hospital😐
I hoovered the landing today!
I usually stay inside the house to make sure I don't climb on any loose rocks
Good advice, man... you can see how many people who know nothing about climbing like to look at climbing videos. They're comments are pretty funny.
at our local crags the basic rule is if it's bolted it's safe. People go out every spring with big metal spikes and crowbars to remove any loose rocks before the climbing season being.
That was a spicy lead a couple years ago! Hopefully the extra bolts and fewer loose rocks have made this a little more enjoyable now haha
I just mark the good holds with big Xs. Especially if they're at the end of the crux. It's my answer to obnoxious ticking.
That hollow flop flop 😁
This is why I'm now an indoor boulderer only. Outdoor climbing is fun but its also more dangerous, and more work to get in the same variety as the gym. Indoor climbing + hiking is the sweet spot in my opinion.
Outdoor is cooler than gym though because it's real and you can go much higher 🤷♂️
I free soloed for decades. One day at the pinnacles in California I had the climb under control skill wise and the hold on my right hand broke. I plummeted and broke my entire lower back, pelvis, coccyx and sacrum. Even if you have a climb under control, rocks can break
Its good that other climbers mark it !
Wath was your biggest project for climbing in terms of grades?
never tried climbing a mountain before, i like trees though, often climbing up trees and napping on top of the branches cuz i felt like it sometime.
My older brother once had a massive bolder fall off and slide his rope he fell 30 feet broke him arm clean snap
Didn’t see an x my first time leading sport and decked f before clipping the second bolt. Had a pretty memorable hike out and couldn’t walk for a couple weeks lol
One of my worst fears. I can never so it
That x move is so smart
Always Remember Activate your Various Mindset.
wow its really nice of them to mark it
Does it matter to you if it is a frequently climbed route or are you cautious like this on all climbs?
Really curious because I did not yet got into the zone where I can have awarness of anything else then "dont fall... dont fall... dont fall..." yet... I tend to climb in very busy sportclimbing areas but have been on some multipitchclimbs and i loved it. So I think evolving a healthy habit like you example, could be a good idea! Any tipp how to shift your focus on anything else then the fear of falling?
Another consideration is that the falling rock can hit the rope and cut it. It happens more often than you'd like too 😬😬😬
i dont think a rock would cut a thick rope though
@@Keyurbhuta it's like winning the lottery or being struck by lightening, but it can happen
Has it ever happened ?
@@MrBoubource it has happened to me. And there are many deaths attributed to rock fall cutting ropes in mountaineering and rock climbing. Depending on where you are climbing will affect the risk of it happening. Some areas are more prone to loose rock.
@@marcusp863 oh my, the rock has to be big I guess. Let's not get out of the climbing gym now that I know that.
I only pull on rocks that have the no fall mindset 😎
X marks the spot, Time to grab!
I was just thinking how tragic it is going to be if people are super careful while climbing. I see some videos of people climbing on stuff that looks doomed to crumble. I pray that people are safe when climbing.
That's a glacier eroded rock, pretty sweet to climb on
my anxiety could never
that's a freakin' truckload of "Nope" right there
Good to know if I by some chance were to accidentally climb up a mountain. I admire people that are brave enough to do these sort of things.
ive had wireless holds before. havent fell from it though. last time i sendt a handfull of ruble towards my belayer, that was fukin scary.
Men you climb on such beatiful Rocks all the time where is that?
El potrero chico in Mexico!
@@NoahKane did you get around to El sendero luminoso?
when i climb, if i feel like a rock is unstable i use my anchor above me so that if it is unstable i dont plummet 3 feet where my last anchor was.
I pulled out a human sized rock two weeks ago and took a 10m fall before the rope caught me. Since it was easy terrain I didn't have a free fall and hit the wall mid way, breaking my foot.
Why did it happen? Because it was a well established route that is frequently climbed (there were people on it just ahead of us) so I didn't expect loose rocks. So I climbed too carelessly, even though bolts were about 5m apart and it was a clear no-fall zone.
I'm really glad that no one got hit by the hundreds of kilos of rock that came down but I'm also glad that we were using a semi-automatic belay device even though it was a multi pitch route where people often belay using a munter hitch. Otherwise if the rocks had hit my belayer, we would have both died.
So lessons learned? Be very aware of when it is ok to fall and when it isn't and climb super carefully if falling is not an option, even in easy terrain and even when you expect good rock quality.
My name is Noah too so I liked your vids
Simply have a "no break mindset" and then youre good 👍
Bro I am scared of heights and I’m still watching you I am terrified right now
I hate when autoplay puts rock climbing videos on and I end up not being able to scroll cause my hands started producing sweat for grip.
where are you in this clip?
For me every one of those rocks has a giant 'X' on it in a bright red flourescent color.
thats some fucking level 10 shit right there.
Is that chalk water proof?
Where is this location? Palm trees growing out of a cliff is awesome
I jammed my hand in a crack behind this big several hundred pound rock that was more or less over me on a cliff once and the whole thing moved out an inch or so. It didn't fall but I wasted no time skittering across the cliff to get the F out of there. The guy that followed me asked how I got across the more or less blank rock just past the loose rock and I couldn't tell him.
I was too panicked to pay attention after I felt that rock move.
I fell off a mountain in 2010 and broke my back due to a half a car sized rock falling off the wall.
I would hate to rely on bolts where there are loose blocks. Plenty of pro placements on that line.
Usually TH-cam recommends videos where there's some twist, like he falls down after not listening to his own advice. Kinda bummed that didn't happen here.
Your bummed that a man didint fall from what i can only assume is a 150 feet?
These guys are VERYCOOL!!!
What is the scariest thing that ever happens to you while rock climbing?
Just watching that scares the begeezus out of me
That is sick
Imagine a German climber seeing that 'X'
*Natzi flashbacks*
X marks the spoooooooooooooooooooooooooaaagggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooot!
Mountain climbers: I fear no mountain. But that... Thing... It scares me.
Just press E fast enough and you will catch every fall.
All the video games say grab the x rock
dude my feet turn numb when i look at this
Maybe I'm missing something but what is the point of marking a rock. Just grab it and throw it away if it is THAT unsafe.
Well you usually have your belayer under you, who you probably don‘t want to kill
If there's no-one below... Give'em a throw!
Yes when engineers check rock faces near roads to make sure they’re safe they just slap the rock and say it should be fine
The view down is a big nope for me.
Not relying on any particular hold is only possible on very easy routes...
I usually take the stairs
That Potrero rock quality can be scary
EEEH. One time I grabbed a loose hold in a climbing gym and IT *SPUN.* Its safe to say I very much fell.
I would grab the X rock anyway to test that theory.
What do you do if the cliff yells out in pain?
I saw the height and immediately get my hand sweating immensely 😣
Do People ever purposefully knock off or break a loose or sketchy rock? Is this frowned upon or is it something you would appreciate?
Yes, but it is rare that you come across something that is loose enough to drop it on purpose.
The worst thing that can happen is dislodging a large rock that you've clipped into, because you and the rock will meet where the rope is tied to your harness.
nobody is going to put a bolt into a lose rock
I don't trust X marks outside. Anyone can go up and start putting Xs everywhere
That X is sweet. I’ve never seen a hold marked like that. Is marking like that universal or unique to your crag?
All over the place in the US. I've been into Canada a bit and seen it too. Sometimes people X off things to fuck with people though. Luckily, X's typically appear on routes with lots of big holds, so you can just avoid them and be on your way. I almost always start checking rocks when I see an X on a route through. To me, it's a sign that there are probably bad rocks that haven't been found yet.
He's climbing at El Potrero Chico in Mexico, it is something known at least in Nuevo León state
I've seen it in Europe as well.
I X holds all the time.
My son and I will use something like Presidential Boulder (Yosemite) and treat it like a moonboard…and play horse or something.
Potrero? 🤩
Cool!
Portrero!!
Do not grab me. X
Is that will the wolf survive in Potrero Chico ?
hands are fucking soaked even watching this short vid
We’ve got different definitions of worse. Me falling to my death is way worse than someone dumb enough to be below me while rock climbing
He’s on a rope
The person belaying you counts as someone below you while climbing…
Ummm…without “someone dumb enough to be below” you…you’re not climbing in the first place, so….
Huh, that’s interesting. I personally would have wrote a skull symbol to indicate that but to each his own I suppose.
That whole wall looks loose....
You ever come eyeball to eyeball with any reptiles
i think everyone who ever climbed in a warm/hot country has seen a few skinks scuttling away from them on the cliff. When I used to climb in Australia though, every time I saw a scaly tail poking out a crack/crevice I was worried it was a snake ... it never was but a few of my friends had tales of snake encounters on the cliff
Did you not clip right away on purpose for the video?
Maybe the previous climber wanted a slow burn game of noughts and crosses with you
I mean, when you're sport climbing bolts like that I'm normally not too concerned about falling
Someone below: is that a monkey?
that route looks like super choss! if you want to cut back on the risk of pulling blocks off the wall, maybe start by avoiding shitty ass routes like this one.
Do Everest.
Where is this spot
I thought it meant press X on controller to climb higher
What happens if you drop your rope? How would you get down?
If you dropped your rope, you'd best call a rescue team! As a general rule, your rope should always be securely tied to someone or something until everyone is back on the ground. E.g. when the climber reaches the anchor and unties to belay the follower, they should clip their harness to the anchor (through a PAS), tie the rope to the anchor, untie themselves from the rope, feed the rope through the anchor and belay device, and then untie the rope from the anchor. Although the order of the steps can vary slightly, at no point in the process is the rope left unsecured, because if the leader drops the rope... well then they're stuck dangling from the anchor until help can climb up to save them :P
@@denniszhang9278 that or they’re free soloing to the top and hoping there’s a walk off route. Ask me how I know 🤣
My technique for loose rocks is not to climb outside at all because it scares the living crap out of me