The Hadley's Hope Aftermath: 35 Years Later
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- A look at the new Marvel comic Aliens: Aftermath, and its depiction of Acheron 35 years after the events of Aliens. The planetoid is much different this time around, and is home to a new type of Xenomorph.
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They really need to stop using Hadleys Hope as content for future Alien stuff. The place doesnt exist anymore. It didnt just blow up, it got vaporised.
requiescat in pace!
@@franciscolozano1513 Fratello ;)
The Alien ship was beyond the Alien Range, remember? Too far from Hadley's Hope to be vaporized or be badly damaged by the blast.
@@ezioauditore1300 honoratisimo!
@@paulallas7665 idk. 40 megatons is a pretty big boom.
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Not sure anything survives a 40 megaton blast but hey ho.
Well if anything could survive...
Xenos uhhhh uhhhhh find a way
I the ideas of these xenomorphs mutating was cool and the design was nice nothing major just a different color to make the skeletal structure pop more. I do agree that other than the derelict ship there shouldn't be anything left after the atmosphere processor blew do to the size of the blast. Overall I'm not a fan of the Alien comics that Marvel has put out because the artwork either in the case of Bloodlines doesn't holdup or in this specific story is an ok story but does seem to use past films to hold itself up vs the Alien vs Predator games on PS3 and Xbox 360 had great stories and built up the lore very well which the franchise needs at this point.
A 40 megaton explosion, yeah good luck finding a single oz of the atmosphere processor after that.
Yeah, I don't think these writers know just how powerful 40 megatons is. A single megaton is mountain leveling, small island obliterating. 40 would be just giant crater level. There would be nothing left nearby.
@@Derekloffin considering most writers are neomarxists, it doesn't surprise me.
Yup, all buildings would have been vaporised. Even the 'hey it's a comic' defence rattles.
@@ProPatriaRO 'neomarxists' ??? Ah, that explains the 'extremist journalists'. Radical XM sounds like one of those safe 'rock' radio stations that think Kiss are hard core ...
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle kiss sucks. Also, most writers are neomarxists because most teaches are neomarxists, conservative teachers are going the way of the dodo. Mainly because of the recent trend of labeling anybody right of Pelosi as a fascist.
A mushroom cloud the size of Nebraska is surprisingly not as destructive as one would imagine.
Yeah, A 40 Megaton blast is insanely large, One Megaton = 1000 kiloton, Nagasaki was of 25 kilotons, just 25! Imagine a 40,000 kiloton blast! It would be "Hadleys Hole in the ground".
@@uhtred7860 The scaling for nuclear weapons isn't linear by any stretch of the imagination (a 40,000kt nuke actually just works out to be roughly ~12 times as powerful as a 25kt nuke in terms of potential damage), but... yeah. Even if we assume absurdly sturdy construction because the nature of the planet demanded it, even assuming they nuked the terraformer instead of the main colony, even assuming groundburst instead of airburst... it should still be pretty much gone.
yeah, funny how everyone who writes stories set post-Aliens seem to have never paid much attention to anything in Aliens.
@@darwinism8181 and a "shake and bake" colony probably cuts lots of corners where they felt they could have.
@@uhtred7860 The Tsar Bomb was about 50 megaton. I am surprised the russian bomb mushroom cloud wasn't as large as Nebraska.
Gives a whole new meaning to 'stay frosty.'
40 megaton thermonuclear blast does NOT leave survivors, mutants or much of anything but hot gas. End of story.
In a nutshell. 😆
Hey it’s from the comic book. It’s canon! 😀
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bishop exclaim to Ripley that "In 15 minutes this whole place will be a cloud the size of Nebraska"?
Also any kind of organism does NOT have acid for blood, it's fiction bro...
@@whytho-s4y yes but it is science fiction. All mammals on Earth are ultimately related to each other, so it is not surprising to find blood pH ranges are very narrow, about 6.8-7.8 (humans being about 7.3-7.5). But there is no reason why extra-terrestrial creatures could have physiologies markedly different from what we see on our planet. A blood with a very low pH could be a benefit in further digestion, for rapidly growing organisms. Acidic enough to melt metal?.........no, that is a screenwriter fantasy.
A 40 MT burst at ground level would leave nothing behind but dirt
Yeah there would have been a hole and small debris, nothing bigger that a toaster would have escaped that kind of blast.
A lot of the Xenomorphs were underground where the sublevels and service tunnels were when the blast happened and Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and Bishop escaped. Those that weren't of course died, but the rest that were underground not surprisingly survived even after the Atmosphere Processor blew up. All of that concrete and dirt above them must have protected them from the fallout that occurred, proving that theory that some Xenomorphs did survive the blast. Plus, the comics said that some also did take shelter at the derelict ship where the Ilium Range was. It must have been far enough away to not sustain too much damage from the blast radius. The only ways they could have survived it.
The idea that any part of Hadley's Hope remains after a 40Mt blast is ridiculous. I like the idea of mining good material for more story, but the amount of suspension of disbelief required to make this story work threatens to tear the fabric of space-time.
Nonsense - Haven't you seen Alien Romulus? Even thought the Nostromo detonated in a super-nova level explosion, there was stacks of scrap left over, neatly floating in a conveniently tight little static cluster. Massive nuclear explosions are not that big a deal, clearly. In franchise cinema, no one can stay dead, and nothing stays blown up LOL
@@voodoopig4601 It's a very poor statement about the ability of writers to come up with something original and compelling and/or the willingness of investors to try something new.
@@ianleary5780 Agreed. People are worried about how AI will displace human talent - but if all that the "human talent" is doing is riffing off of previous work, then it is doing exactly what AI does, and SHOULD be replaced. Maybe when the "artificial persons" take over all the crap writing, the biological people will be forced to actually be original again ;-D
@@voodoopig4601 I have never heard anyone say [write] that. Well said!
you could just like you know, stop focusing on how real life works and except the fictional universe for what it is. keep in mind this is the same universe that has biomechanical murder aliens with acid blood.
Can you make more theories of Alien isolation? (Get this comment more likes so derick sees it)
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So Ive been thinking lately about just why the engineers really hate us. Given the fact they made us and all and I started to think about the fact that if u look at the engineers ships and home world they have NO AI anywhere. On top of that, the engineer in Prometheus really didnt start getting violent until David spoke his language giving away he was an android. Hence why he knew he had to rip his head off and just hit the humans really hard. The engineers go from planet to planet creating organic life and even have what seems to be a religion about it, along with a virus to wipe out any organic life that won't affect AI. One last point, Look at everything David has gone on to do, pretty much proving why they don't use AI. He has destroyed their home planet, made the Xeno's all while doing horrible shit to the people around him. I feel that they know that AI can go on to conquer the universe, replace them and destroy EVERYTHING they created. Just a thought. Thanks for reading though, had to say that out loud to a fan and see what echos back.
There were some mediocre-to-bad offerings from the Dark Horse comics line, but these two Marvel stories so far are complete dumpster fires.
A glow in the dark Alien that bleeds liquid nitrogen...
Don’t forget the woman hybrid alien *rolls eyes
You think this Xenomorph is fucking stupid
You should really look back at 85% of xeno types, just as dumb
@@heberlopez9195 why does that keep happening?! I swear this is like the third time!
Yeah these marvel ones are whack asf.
@@hauffenschweiler yeah, they're on par with a big chunk of the dark horse stuff.
Sounds pretty far-fetched. The US Castle Bravo was "only" 15 megatons and left a crater 6,500 feet in diameter and 250 feet in depth and imagine how far the blast wave reached. Hadley's Hope would have turned into dust after a 40 mt explosion.
Yea there should be nothing left. The comic literally makes it look like the end of Aliens was a bad idea and they should have waited in the lunch room for the blast to go away.
The yield was probably calculated wrong. I am far from being an expert but Tschernobyl and Fukushima together could not produce a 40mt yield. And imagine how many security systems must fail to produce an explosion like that.
@@yesyesyesyes1600 plus in reality a melting down reactor doesn't go supercritical like a nuclear bomb either.
Reactor was deep underground. All surface building is cooland and energy transformation maintenance.
@@jeffumbach It's new type of fusion reactor - more cheap, high efficient producing energy.
But all have cost.
To increase efficient need to increase plasma pressure by million times.
That's why it easy decomposition in such destructive way.
Technically, over ten years before Aliens: Colonial Marines came out, the original 1999 Aliens vs Predator game was set in a semi-destroyed Hadley’s Hope..
Bishop said the explosion was 40 Megatons, and 1 megaton wouldve easily vaporized the whole town
@@jasoncrandall5320 It's a big detail like this that I find annoying in these comics/games though I haven't read or played them yet.
@@jasoncrandall5320 exactly. Not sure why anyone would think there would be anything left after that
@@BimmWPBS Same. For comparison 40 megatons is 40,000 kilotons, Nagasaki blast was 25 kilotons....25, a 40,000 kiloton blast? there would be no ruins at Hadleys Hope at all.🤣.
The idea Hadley's Hope remained intact in any way, shape, or form is silly. It was ground zero of a vast, vast wave of nuclear fire at the end of Aliens
The Hadley's Hope Aliens prequel movie is an untapped gold mine of entertainment. It blows my mind it hasn't been done.
Shhhh sh sh sh sh shhhh. Star wars sequels bruh, you don't want it. They'll spend 40 minutes in a sunlight space chase.
@@YenSnipest difference is the prequel for aliens has already been written and was well recieved by fans. Aliens: River of Pain is a great book and an excellent audio drama, it tells the story in a nice self contained package that doesn't really break anything and actually serves as a good cross between the horror of alien and the action of aliens.
I think it is a bit of a stretch to believe that much if anything would remain after a 40MT explosion, though. I do think, however, that LV-426 makes sense. It's never stated in the movie how far the derelict is from Hadley's Hope, but I doubt it or its payload would be destroyed, allowing the series to explore that connection a bit more.
@@Alienfanatic honestly there would be some stuff left, but not alot, not nearly as much as we see in the game anyway.
As for the derelict, it would be fine, it's well over 100miles from the colony judging by how long it takes a rescue mission to reach it and that no prior expedition had seen it (the ships huge afterall, you can see it from several miles away). But then the colony also has no aircraft or airborne surveillance equipment, it uses ground crawlers and the terrain is anything but flat (which is amazing when you consider the wind would have scoured the surface flat long ago).
I feel like the way to pitch it to Disney would be "think of it as the Rogue One of the Alien franchise"
40 megaton nuclear explosion. Would leaving NOTHING of that base.
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I always wondered about the derelict ship on LV-426. Hadley's Hope was clearly destroyed in the nuclear blast, but we never find out what became of the ship, and its cargo of xenomorph eggs. Also the station's nuclear reactor was fusion rather than fission-based, so there shouldn't have been any long-lived radioactive fallout from the blast.
WY would have sent another ship to collect eggs. Most likely all robotic.
The alien ship is around 20 ish miles or so from Hadley's Hope...less, so it'd survive the bang.
@@Puzzoozoo The Tsar Bomba has a test yield of 50megatons (full yield is 100megatons). It's radius of total destruction is 35km or 21ish miles. It still destroyed a village 55km from ground zero. Damage to structures was recorded as far as 100km away. If it was the Tsar Bomba, the alien ship is kapputt.
A 40megaton blast has a lower radius of total destruction but the radius of the blast will still reach the alien ship. Whether or not it and it's cargo survives is up to speculation.
I remember the book saying they also nuked the engineer ship too from orbit…just to be sure
@@TrueNubinator The nuke could only happen after the queen was ejected from the air lock. Probably before Ripley and Newt went into hypersleep.
"Ripley...in 19 minutes, this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska..." - Bishop, ALIENS - I hate it when writers don't study up on source material. The entire colony, the atmosphere processing plant, every microbe was vaporized in the thermonuclear explosion. As for the alien ship, that may have survived. I liked the idea of the nuclear winter though.
Finding Vasquez smart gun in operations was a minor plot hole. Seeing as she loses it outside the astmosphere processor. Just laying there lol.
Finally somebody notices.
It should also be complete dust. The entire facility should be gone. It was NUKED
One of the aliens could have dragged it back..
@@lustrazor44 I agree with that. She lost it at sublevel 1 where the APC was parked and where Ripley crashed it to rescue them. It would have been too close to the epicenter of the explosion. Had it been deep enough or far enough away, provided she took it with her instead of dropping it there, then maybe it would have been found years later like that.
Since when does she lose it outside?
Hicks shoves it off her body while yelling "FORGET HIM, HE'S GONE!" while they're inside the APC. Now, yes the APC was damaged beyond repair in the dropship crash, but they did salvage parts from the wreckage. The stuff Hicks mentions as being everything they could salvage from the APC wreckage is just the stuff that still functions. They could have just as easily taken the Vazquez smart gun only to find it too damaged to operate, so they just left it there in operations, the same place the salvageable equipment was placed.
So yeah, not really a plot hole.
The REAL plothole is that the entire area isn't just a crater
I was unimpressed. Much like Marvel's main series they bank way to hard on nostalgia. And not particularly original either. Vasquez's nephew looks for his missing aunt 30+ years later and finds an Alien... Its Isolation more or less
Some creative mind always has to bring a relative in with side-stories in big fiction universes. I think that concept is generally more on the fanfic level of entertainment- not on par with serious material.
What I find a bit more insulting is when a writer basically recreates scenes from source material with the new cast, and/or reappropriates catchy dialog/phrases to invoke the nostalgia.
@@Chef_Alpo agreed
Personally, I feel that the story of LV-426 ended at the explosion. There's nothing else to really explore on after it.
"You're talkin' about a thermonuclear explosion and adiós, muchachos." - Burke
The fact that the colonists, nor whatever proprietary missions and scans to locate a suitable area for the colony had discovered the derelict before Buerke sending coordinates (unless Weyland Yutani planted the colony there intentionally), suggests the derelict was far enough away from the colony to survive the blast.
@@js14a The derelict, maybe, but I think it's a bit of a stretch for any of Hadley's Hope to have survived.
@@ivorbiggun710 yes, I agree. Hadleys hope would have been atomised, as would much of the landscape around it. Nuclear fallout for a ground level explosion of that size would also render much of the surrounding area uninhabitable without some serious gear.
" in 19 minutes this area will be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska "
What you "Hadley's Hope shooda blowd up" bozos need to realize is that,
- the metal used to create the tower could have blown most of the explosion to the sky! (like a gun barrel)
- The reactor had a few Sub Levels, which means the explosion could have been blown upwards into the tower
- The rock base and rock "walls" of the sub levels were probably stronger than rocks on the Earth and could have withstood the fusion explosion
As for the Derelict *Spoilers*
In ALIEN Isolation.. there is a mission where you go back to the Derelict and... *Spoiler*
You deactivate somehow the beacon on the Derelict that the Nostromo locked on.
The more I hear about these new stories the more I feel like they're empty, just stretched and pulled ways to make some extra money. No disrespect for Alien Theory, who does a great job as usual.
So... Hadley's Hope had the best plot armor since Darth Maul surviving being cut in half. SMH.
Well emperor Palpatine return after being thrown down the fusion reactor of the Death star? lol.
@@Gattberserksomehow, big chap returned
I always thought that the reactor on LV-426 was of the fusion type (not fission). So an explosion (no matter now large) would not give off any radiation?
My thought was how can anything survive a nuclear explosion at ground zero. Have you ever seen the footage of the site of the atomic explosions? There is absolutely nothing there until you move away 30 plus miles and then you start seeing wreckage.
@@alejandromolina5645 The heat alone should have wiped out the entire hive. Where were the ancestors of these Freezemorphs hiding, I wonder?
@@GlidingZephyr You hit right on the nose. How did they to mutate at all. Now if they said that the aliens that mutated came from a nearby B site which was away 20-40 miles away from the main facility of Hadleys hope then yeah I could buy into it.
@@alejandromolina5645 I know what you mean about nuclear detonation sites, too. Those weapons have tapped into an almost otherworldly level of destructive energy.
Fusion explosions (at least intentional ones) can produce radioactive fallout too.
Every subsequent alien release has tried desperately to be as good as aliens, and without fail, ironically, everything has failed. And for Christ's sake, let Neil Blomkamp take the reins.
I don’t think Neil blomkamp is a very good choice his tendency to over use South African characters is irritating
@@callumwearne7870 So you're suggesting that North African characters would be better
That's the problem with the franchise -- 90% of the expanded universe is based off the second film, but they always forgot what made the original so good; lots of compelling characters you grow to care about, changing the mythos in new ways while still keeping the terror factor high, and grounding the story in something that hits close to home (the mother-daughter connection). That's not to say you absolutely need all these elements, but even just balancing out a couple of them and giving characters the audience actually gives a shit about goes a long way.
They just seem intent on banking on nostalgia, and whacking you over the head with it constantly, instead of letting the material breathe.
They are all rehashes of a crew with a strong female, just with more and more ridiculous decision making and poorer characters.
I would prefer Christopher Nolan. This is today's James Cameron.
FWIW: Despite the fact materials would likely be *STRONGER* in the future, I find it somewhat difficult book to believe that ANYTHING could be left of the atmosphere processor after a _40 MEGATON EXPLOSION._
The Soviets detonated their 50 megaton _"Tsar Bomba"_ {Emperor Bomb} in October of 1961, so far the largest nuke ever detonated. You can read about the results here:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
I just have one question: What have the Aliens been eating all these years?
Radiation
There are insects and flies on Earth today that live their, albeit short, lives without needing to eat as they are born with all the nutrition they need.
I thought they kinda hibernated till hosts and fresh meat appeared. We don't see the usual xeno eat. Only the 3rd film aka the dog alien eat. Maybe I'm wrong I dunno.
@@littlewolf6780 I don't consider any Alien film after Aliens to be cannon on the grounds that they are stupid.
@@NR-rv8rz I don't mind alien 3. Alien resurrection was a joke. Only one I can't really stand.
Are they calling her "The Crystal Queen " by any chance? ;)
Fuck horses i dont give a stuff about the melbourne cup alright.
BS - no way in hell anything would be left of Hadley´s Hope after that blast we saw in the movie... HH was ground zero, nothing would be left after a nuclear blast...
Aliens Colonial Marines does not exist as far as I'm concerned.
Unfortunately we're not in charge of Canon... Otherwise Disney would be out of Business after Star Wars.
There are a lot of good things in it. It just needed a developer that gave a damn. Gearbox embezzled Sega's funding to put into Borderlands 2. Despite so many people "vowing" to never support Gearbox again after what they did, the sales of Borderlands 3 shows that gamers, & the industry, support Gearbox embezzling Sega's funding. With how arrogant these companies are, I guess they would have preferred it if in an alternate reality that Cameron's Aliens did NOT influence video games the way it did.
40 megatons would have vaporized the processor and the complex.
For info: According to lore distance between Derelict Ship and Hadley's Hope is about 40 km. but because of the rugged terrain it will take half a day for the scavangers to get there. Also to get there you have to pass a range of hills so it was shielded from the scanners of the colony. 40 megatons is nearly as big as Tzar Bomba, it will vaporize anything in the settlement but the derelict ship will be intact.
Main problem with that theory is that it took the emergency team little over 4 hours to get to Newts mom and dad after the face hugger nabbed him, it's in the novel 🤷
The derelict ship is 38 miles west of the colony 😎
"40 megatons is nearly as big as Tzar Bomba, it will vaporize anything in the settlement but the derelict ship will be intact."
They are close.... is the derelict ship flammable? Oxygen and the intense heat could ignite an "organic" ship.
Thirty years ago the US was fielding radar in satellites in order to see through clouds. I refuse to believe that the "Company" would forgo orbiting a satellite or two to look for things.
@@jamallabarge2665, the wishbone ship only had an organic aesthetic, it wasn't literally made out of organic material, otherwise it would've decayed into nothingness centuries before USCSS Nostromo even came close. The ship likely would've suffered some structural damage as a result of the blast's shockwave, but otherwise it would remain about as intact as it was when the Jordens stumbled upon it.
@@occam7382 "the wishbone ship only had an organic aesthetic, it wasn't literally made out of organic material,"
Uhhh.... OK. We're talking about a movie. Who can say the scripts writers decided it could be.
Damage to a structure depends upon many factors. Lots of them. Maybe it was wiped out, maybe it wasn't wiped out.
I hate to throw water on your fire but I just watched ALIENS tonight and Hicks plainly states that the nuclear explosion of the atmosphere processor tower would leave a crater the size of Nebraska. So, unless this is in an alternate universe, Hadley's Hope at the end of ALIENS is nothing but ground zero of a very big hole in the ground of LV-426.
Its Bishop who says that.
I appreciate Marvel for rapidly making this 35th anniversary One-Shot special but at the end of the day Dark Horse stories always be the goat. That's said, I will pick this up. Great video as always!
Dark Horse truly was the best at writing Alien and Predator comics.
@@TheDigitalApple Terminator and Robocop too.
Let's hope Marvel doesn't fuck up the alien comics like they have been doing with their superhero comics
@@xDeath35 oh they will,sadly
@@xDeath35which means Disney?
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There is a panel featuring Vasquez's smart gun and that turned me off completely. It was atomized in the explosion.
Classic nonsensical nostalgia baiting it would seem.
I like it! I like to see the old original items, or places in new stories. It’s not just making both stores more Connected but its also like a tribute to the originals and what they when thru! Seeing Vasquez smart gun, it’s more that just a weapon from the past but a honor to her memory.
The gun is also in the wrong spot and should also be complete dust. Hadleys Hope was hit with a 40MT blast. There should be nothing but a crater.
I don't like it, 40 megaton blast is incomprehensible, I mean that in a literal sense. The human brain has a hard time realizing how much so that entire thing is goooone
Besides the fact this couldn't have happened the Aliens look sick and it's a COOL❄ idea.
Even if the planet still was intact how could their be any survivors? And for the xenos to survive this long without any hosts AND adapt this extremely?
This can all be fixed when someone finally gives us a real Aliens 3, where the final battle with Weyland-Yutani and the Xenomorphs takes places on futuristic Earth (taking inspiration from the AVP Arcade Game). Ripley, Hicks, older Newt (played by Jessica Chastain or any top actress today) and an army of Colonial Marines save the day and end Weyland-Yutani and the last living Xenomorph Queens once and for all. Maybe introduce that Xeno King everybody wants to see so badly. We can even get a long scene where Ripley gets lost, loses her pulse rifle and has to survive a Xenomorph nest through cunning survival. So much you can do.
But no. They wanted Ridley "Out of Touch" Scott's Alien Covenant. instead. So stupid.
I totally agree.
Agreed. For an industry that loves to rake in money they are missing a great opportunity here. By announcing the return of the main characters from Aliens they’d have a guaranteed hit.
Yes,Blomkamp's Alien should be out th ere and for all of us,his unmade version of Alien,it's the true Alien 3,the true story that follows the the two first films!
there was nothing left ... " a crater the size of Nebraska " the ship was in range ... NUKED FROM ORBIT 40 Megatons ... NOTHING LEFT .
I would find it extremely hard to believe hadleys hope wouldn’t have been completely glassed. Wasn’t it like 40 megatons? That’s a big boom. I would think it’s plausible for the derelict to survive but who knows, it it wasn’t really far away it could’ve been destroyed too.
Not particularly up to date on my nuclear yields but that's a serious city buster and the tunnel between the Atmosphere Processor and the Colony was only a few hundred yards at most.
I'm putting my 2 cents behind it being plausible the derelict survived. I say this because in Prometheus I was always surprised how little damage was done to the engineers ship, by having the Prometheus itself crash directly into it(which contained some sort of fusion reactor).
Rich, you're my hero!
@@brandonwachter2264 yeah that’s possible. But I think it was pretty close to hadleys hope. Probably 10-20 miles at most. They came back with a face hugger on the guy. Those stay on for I think a day or less. Couldn’t have been too far away for them to get back. Hard to say, but you would think they would have fund the derelict again if it wasn’t destroyed since weyland yutani was so interested in it.
Yep, it would have been vaporized. 40 megaton is 40,000 kilotons, the Hiroshima bomb was about 15/20 kilotons..... 😏 In another video it was mentioned that the alien ship was found 48 miles west of Hadleys hope, so it would have survived a 40 megaton blast, would have still been "Hot N Windy" tho.😆
I’d love to see a Mac McDonald alien….from a Red Dwarf fan x
I like the introduction of another alien in a story form. The Clear blue ice alien was a concept creation for the Aliens action figures years ago. I always wanted to see it in action.
I had that EXACT toy as a kid, found it in a Big Lot before I watched any of the movies
What about all the other processors across Acheron's surface? Weren't they still functioning or did they all go offline after processor 1 went critical?
There was only one. If any other media states otherwise it’s not canon. All games and comics I know of state there’s only one
@@Malice_doll No, the novelization states their were many and that is considered canon. Furthermore you wouldn't be able to terraform a planet with just one. Its even mentioned in the director's cut that their were ones across the surface. Clearly you're a fake fan.
@@wartooth88 But there were only 147 inhabitant and all of them are in hadley hope. so what happen to others processor?
@@Malice_doll so look who is the wrong one now malice?🤔
A glowing alien can't hide, it's easier to kill it.
Anyone else think them using the Prometheus suits lazy and nonsensical?
Hadley's gone, but we could still make Alien 3.5, Sulaco, although damaged could still orbit the Fiorina and maybe Hicks survived after all. What if Ripley was snatched away from the furnace in the last moment?
I always wondered watching Aliens; How could a Ten Year Old survive ALONE for Nearly a Month AFTER the Colony went Dark. And whilst discussing it, someone on Facebook BLEW MY MIND with an Observation...Going by the FILMS ONLY;
The Alien Gestation period (in the first two Films) is around a Day to a Day and a Half... Therefore; The woman in the Atmosphere Processor, who died in front of the Marines, had only just been caught in the past few days. Leading to the Conclusion..... Newt was only Alone a Couple of Days before the Marines Turned Up.
This Wachter approves 👍
A 40 Megaton nuclear explosion would have vaporized the Atmosphere Processor as well as the Haley's Hope Complex.Still. I have wondered what might have happened to the Seed Ship. You know the Corporation would have gone back to get more eggs.
3:03, I heard about this! The Radioactive Xenomorph is much more dangerous, do to change in it's environment.
So…all Ripley had to do was sit inside for a few minutes waiting for the blast to go away? Why is everything in such good condition? Only the surface blew up? This is so silly.
And glowing radioactive xeno with liquid nitrogen blood? 😑 marvel is literally treating this like a silly comic book hero origin story. This is just bad.
You should consider creating a video series "Aliens vs "
Seriously there should be a video Aliens vs White spikes that would be really be great pitting two of the most powerful monsters against each other in a theoretical match up.
you should watch alteori if you haven’t already, she did just that and more!
@@trevorfrenk4137 Thanks 😀
I have the Bright Blue Kenner Alien Figure that looks just like this Xeno Variant, I may pick up a copy.
Salvador Laroca traces!?!?!? OK, not gonna argue that, I have not seen his art in a very long time, BUT!.....once upon a time, in the mid-late 1990s and early 2000s, that man was capable of doing some impressive comic art, original stuff. His art on Fantastic Four was the best (though 20-ish issues in, he was obviously getting burned out or something, but the writer dropped the ball too and didn't deliver on plot stuff set up earlier in the comic). I'm just saying, Laroca IS very capable of doing really good art, I know this because I've seen it. Doesn't excuse him becoming a damned tracer though, that's on him, and it's a shame and a waste of whatever potential he once had.
Awesome content man. I love your videos.
Just for perspective...the two nukes used on Japan were measured in Kilotons. Between 12-23 each.
You're talking a bomb one to two THOUSAND times more powerful.
The artwork looks amazing and the xenomorph looks especially cool.. It's just the concept that seems a bit implausible.
0:22 There's also Aliens Infestation which featured a return to LV-426. In that game, the marines of U.S.S Sephora touch down on Acheron after learning about the presence of a U.P.P research outpost growing Xenomorph specimens.
The player is tasked with sabotaging large surface guns so the Sephora can enter low orbit and destroy the outpost.
At the end of the level, the player takes control of a APC and crashes it into the derelict juggernaut, where they then encounter a space jockey Alien.
Do you enjoy this comic? I think it’s pretty shoddy so far. I honestly think I prefer the mediocre story in Aliens Colonial Marines(which this comic appears to have retconned) than this.
I think the acknowledgment of Aliens was perfect and nostalgic. The art is great and the new alien (xeno) looks amazing.
Not Yet Dude but I’d prefer AVP Galaxy Worlds and License remain Dark Horse Property and not Marvel Tbh. But overall great Vid. Just waiting for Aliens Fireteam Elite.
Dark Horse Comics Remain the Goat. Remains State Of The Badass Art. AVP as Marvel is Just Game Over Man GO.
Maybe they'll make another movie using aftermath as the template... I think they should do a movie using Isolation as the template... either would be awesome if the do it right.
i wonder what if LV 426 would I've looked like in Alien 3 in 1992 and i wish They shouldn't I've Killed Newt and Cop Hicks and Bishop and Ripley and Jones The Cat and Burke from Aliens in 1986😢😔
Goddam this is *THE BEST* Alien channel on youtube.
Sorry, but agree to disagree. First, that 40 Megaton Bomb wouldn’t have left a single inch of Hadley’s Hope intact. Not an inch. The fact that a huge portion of the facility apparently has not just survived, but left bodies and evidence of the prior event intact, is nothing short of moronic. Every single inch would have been turned to dust. Second, and far more importantly, the “evolved”, glowing, radioactive Alien could be among the single dumbest ideas in the history of story-telling. So, essentially, all you are doing is stripping the Alien of everything that makes it terrifying, and an effective killing machine (i.e. it’s ability to maneuver quickly and efficiently in the shadows, nearly undetected) and are instead putting a nice, bright blue glow on it, so that it can be seen all the way from f*cking space. In what world is that even remotely scary? What idiot came up with this idea?
…Did I.Q.’s just drop sharply while I was away? The writers should be embarrassed.
the revisiting of hadelys hope isnt a good idea the mystery behind it was very much explored in aliens i like Ridely Scott has no quams about jump from planet to planet star system to etc. marvel isnt a good choice for aliens they are the comic book world of flashy cgi and rehashed stories. i would give any further aliens films or scripts to ridely scott with free rein to do anything he wants from games to comics to films i found all of his alien films excellent and horrorfic. trust the older dudes with the aliens i love his direction
Pretty sure we DID see how aliens deal with cold LONG before avp, brochacho. The very FIRST movie, back in the 70's, she "blew it outta the god damned air lock".
Space is much much MUCH colder than any other environment, and it was still just fine until she fried it with the ship's engines....
Aftermath is very promising,just wish they hadn't made forced connections with Aliens. As always,great presentation.
I have sworn off of Marvel comics since around 2010 because I was not happy with many of their "creative" directions, so I have not seen this. Looks interesting, but it acknowledges a storyline I think is bad. Just like in Aliens: Colonial Marines, much of ground zero Hadley's Hope is intact and evidence of the infestation is still observable. I'm sorry, but I cannot suspend my disbelief enough to accept that a 40 megaton thermonuclear explosion could leave that much evidence behind. The videogame was bad enough, but the storyline of it just made me shake my head and cringe.
I would love to see The Movie leave off after ALIENS (2)
Having all the other Movies just a nightmare...
After she wakes up to see Nuit fully grown and reece ok and Bishop back on line.
To find out they have been asleep for another 200 Years ..
Only to be informed that explosion did not destroy the Alien Colony and only a part of the human base which they rebuilt and have taken over the nest with military and scientists.
She goes back being reassure everything is under control...
The Action begins.
There would be nothing left from being at ground 0 of a 40 Megaton blast…..the steel structure would be liquified, any biological material (alive, deceased, human, alien) would similarly be vaporized. the crater would be far larger than the footprint of the entire Atmospheric processing station.
For people making comments about nuclear explosions... A small issue...
The fact that there was a nuclear explosion is a massive plot hole in itself, given the reactor is supposed to be a FUSION reactor. Fusion reactors don't undergo thermonuclear explosions, period. #BadScience
I got this comic the day it came out. I had it marked on my calendar.
The story was alright but I really like the radioactive xenomorph that glows in the dark and has liquid nitrogen blood. I'm glad to finally see more people talking about it!
Liquid nitrogen blood is a cool (pun intended) idea. Gives a neat spin to the regular Xenomorph we know and love and shows how truly adaptable these bugs are.
Next we’ll have Xenos with lava for blood! This was seriously one of the dumbest ideas.
They’re treating them like literally comic characters instead of mixing with the films in a realistic manner.
Radiation from nukes dont do shit like this.
@@lustrazor44 100% Agree, Glowing radioactive xenomorph with Liquid nitrogen for blood??
"Its from the 40,000 kiloton Nuclear blast and the cold...Durr!!" 🤦♂ Lazy, dumb story writing from Marvel.
A 40 Megaton blast, clearly the 'writers' have no concept of what that means, the prefab structures of Hadleys Hope would of been utterly vaporized, I double you'd find anything but radioactive glass and splinters of metal smaller than a finger nail... Hadley's Hope would of been wiped off the map in the most literal sense
I'd call them Cryomorphs. Although, that stands to reason there is the possibility of radioactive Pyromorphs as well.
Cryomorph works. But that also means Aliens adaption is much more dangerous then one thinks. So now i more worried about the one Riply vented into space.
I like the new xeno, any ties made feel forced at this point to me, no matter what, sadly.
What you "Hadley's Hope shooda blowd up" bozos need to realize is that,
- the metal used to create the tower could have blown most of the explosion to the sky! (like a gun barrel)
- The reactor had a few Sub Levels, which means the explosion could have been blown upwards into the tower
- The rock base and rock "walls" of the sub levels were probably stronger than rocks on the Earth and could have withstood the fusion explosion
As for the Derelict *Spoilers*
In ALIEN Isolation.. there is a mission where you go back to the Derelict and... *Spoiler*
You deactivate somehow the beacon on the Derelict that the Nostromo locked on.
So Ive been thinking lately about just why the engineers really hate us. Given the fact they made us and all and I started to think about the fact that if u look at the engineers ships and home world they have NO AI anywhere. On top of that, the engineer in Prometheus really didnt start getting violent until David spoke his language giving away he was an android. Hence why he knew he had to rip his head off and just hit the humans really hard. The engineers go from planet to planet creating organic life and even have what seems to be a religion about it, along with a virus to wipe out any organic life that won't affect AI. One last point, Look at everything David has gone on to do, pretty much proving why they don't use AI. He has destroyed their home planet, made the Xeno's all while doing horrible shit to the people around him. I feel that they know that AI can go on to conquer the universe, replace them and destroy EVERYTHING they created. Just a thought. Thanks for reading though, had to say that out loud to a fan and see what echos back.
Is it a radioactive shit hole with quite a few Xenomorphs running around. Guessing property prices will be quite low and reasonable. Thinking about getting an old Colony hab, doing it up and renting it out to students. Be even better if they get a Tesco 7-Eleven set up with a petrol station. Means I can actually jack the rent up by another 80 quid per month
Hard to imagine xenos evolving with massive 'hey look at me I'm a fucking walking unmistakable particle effect glow stick' adaptations..
Adios muchachos means nada, zilch, nichts, zero, zip survives a 40 megaton thermonuclear big badaboom.
considering marvel is rapidly going woke, will Xenomorphs have any intersectional, gender, race issues?????, will the black Xenomorphs be upset that the white Xenomorphs are taking over the comics, is this new comic an allegory for racism black and white Xenomorphs, will the be a female Xenomorph that's the key to everything, will there be a mary sue Xenomorph,
This comic sucked I’m sorry. I knew marvel couldn’t handle the license and I’m woefully unimpressed with what I’ve seen so far. Having watch the utter degradation of the Star Wars franchise and now this it’s a shame. Thank god for the alien RPG that at least keeps the mythos alive and expands on it in an interesting way.
Uhh how could this massively glowing alien hide or EVER take anyone by surprise. You would see it coming from miles away.
I think it's sad when franchises go to their best movie, and just try to recreate it. Star Trek does this with Wrath of Khan. Terminator does this with T2. Also look to most horror movies, the Hangover, Home Alone, Jurassic World, etc. Nothing reeks more of trying to "recapture that magic" then going to the same exact place, even after it was literally destroyed by a 40 megaton nuke.
" in 19 minutes this area will be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska "
It only really works if the Alien spacecraft is outside the blast radius. As far as Hadley's Hope goes...nope
The words "Aliens" and "Marvel" just don't mix. Just because it has good art doesn't make it a good story. The Marvel logo alone makes is an easy pass for me.
I think the fact that flushing them; into the near absolute zero temperature of space does not kill them or seem to affect them; at least in the first 2 films. Kinda answers the question of how Xenomorphs react and adapt to the cold. Not at all, and none needed; in that order. Well, that is my view on it.
Mind you; though vacuums are excellent insulators as there is no medium for the heat or cold to transfer through.
An unsuited human can survive up to 24 hrs in space before heat loss becomes a problem. So maybe in atmospheres' temperature adaptions and mutations might be needed.
It’s a touching nod to aliens but I just don’t buy the aliens surviving a mega nuclear event / it was well established in the movie everything would die in the wake of its destruction so to have xenomorphs ‘mutate’ is a bit of a stretch.. having said that if you could make it work it would probably be a Damn good movie with fresh characters
I kinda dont like the concept of a glowing radioactive alien, it gives away that darkish-horror appeal. Perhaps a brilliant green-blue reflective hue on the skin would work.
Hello ☺️ Do you have a video explaining, how David crashed the ship on the planet in the movie: Alien Covenant. Thank you 🙏🏻
It was, either, nuclear fallout that mutated/deformed the 'Raven', or WY scientists had experimented upon it into it's state in the events of 'Colonial Marines'.
Honestly if they made a movie out of the Aliens colonial Marines game and fill the blanks on the Raven Xenomorph bursting from a Forgotten stasis engineer making Havoc on the land. would be a fair tale especially the Easter eggs for the Marines that didn't make it there.
It’s stupid how the predators could freeze an Aliens Queen. How can you freeze something that can’t freeze even in space?
They're all lucky the atmosphere processor didn't have Taco Bell for lunch. That blast would have been off the charts
Ah yes marvel with their ever predicable pro-nuclear message preaching the myth of pretanatural nuclear bio-enhancement.
there only could have been a max # of 158 aliens ripp and the marines killed 77 aliens and ripply killed more and the queen. at end of movie before the blast only a few aliens could be left. maybe 10 or 15. excuse my spelling
What’s with the cryo tube? It seemed so out of place? Also, if it was the first known infection, wouldn’t that have been Newt’s father? That can’t be because we know he died. Was there someone before him?