Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR | 6000 Mile Review | Would I Buy Again?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video I review the performance and mileage of my Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR Tyres.
6000 Miles but would I buy them again?
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Pros and Cons
Timecodes
00:00 - Intro
1:04 - What/who are they for?
2:54 - On Road Performance
7:51 - Off Road Performance
9:30 - Other Negatives
11:48 - Mileage
12:48 - Would I buy again?/Summary
13:32 - Outro
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Gear;
Helmets - Shoei RYD and Arai Tour X3
Summer Gear - Richa Daytona 60s and Revit Lombard 2 Cordura Jeans
Touring Gear - Halvarssons Walkyr Jacket and Wish Trousers
Boots - Daytona Roadstar GTX and Daytona AC Classics in Brown
Gloves - Knox Handroid Pod Mk2, Dainese Corbin D-Dry, Gerbing X12 heated gloves
Camera Set Up;
Main Camera - GoPro Hero 9 Black
B Camera - GoPro Hero 8 Black
Drone - DJI Mavic Mini (1st edition)
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Thanks from Australia for the awesome review cheers. Booked in to get a set on my Multistrada 1200....this should be bloody good fun 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice! You'll love them! Enjoy
Thanks for the review. I've just put one of these on the front of my Hornet 600S. One of the advantages I noticed is that the bike is better when cornering over patchy surfaces, which are common near me. A smooth road front feeds back all the little changes in surface, but the Rally STRs don't. This makes the ride smoother and gives confidence.
Definitely agree! It's great for confidence on the loose stuff
Great review Sam, im picking up a super tenere 1200 tommorrow and these tyres are on there, good to know they seem really good. Thanks again.
Thanks! Yes they are definitely worth trying out. They look really cool too
Excellent review Sir - many thanks and you've just made my new tyre choice for me,
I have a 1997 Honda ST1100 on which I'm running Bridgestone BT023's and in December I bought a 2008, 18,000 mile Honda Varadero 1000 after lusting after one for years.
The Varadero came with a spare pair of Avon 3D XM's which are on now but it arrived fitted with Scorpion Rally STR's which were worn enough to pick up an MOT advisory so I swopped to the Avons. I had Avon 3D XM's fitted to the Pan a while ago and hated the damn things - it just never felt "right". I've only done a few miles on the Varadero with the Avons so I'll have to reserve judgement for now.
Back to the Scorpions on the Varadero. It arrived by delivery courier on the 16th December and on the 18th December, me and the two hooligans I ride with did a days ride on damp, greasy, snotty roads and I'll admit to having been a little concerned - big, heavy bike, first time out on it, worn "trailie" tyres and less than ideal riding weather.
The Scorpions shocked me - no slipping, sliding, squirming - nothing, even on the really filthy slimy roads. On the return journey there's a decent stretch of what was motorway but is now downgraded to A road - hardly used, nice and quiet and even at 70MPH (+VAT.......) dead stable.
Unless the Avons piss me off like they did on the Pan, I'll wear 'em out and then go back to Scorpions.
Thanks again for the review - I've seen a couple and they all mirror what you're saying.
Ride safe.
Neil.
Thank you!
I've heard very mixed reviews about the Avons too so I think your thoughts are pretty accurate there!
The only other tyre similar that I'm quite impressed by is the Anakee Adventures. Review more recently on the channel. I have to say... I think I prefer the Scorpions though!
Thanks for watching! And ride safe
Great video! Thinking about getting these for Triumph Speed 400
I'm on my third set and think they're great - one thing, when half of the tread depth is gone after barely 2000 miles and you are thinking that you're not going to make it home from your extended tour without finding a new rear tyre, don't worry because the rate of wear steadily reduces with tread depth (tbh this may well be true for all tyres but in my experience is particularly noticeable with the STRs)
Yes!! I noticed that too! The first few thousand miles seemed to go really quick, but the rest was fine. Maybe because you're not as eager to pin the throttle when you think you have bald tyres 😂
The best bit was the impression of the tyre noise :) Good review, I'm planning to get some for my Mash 650x.
Haha! Might start a separate channel just for noises 😂
Definitely the best imitation of the noise these tires have when near 70 kmh. I was actually trying to reproduce your imitation for a minute or two, having to explain the sound I hear on these tires to my friend :)
Hahaha! I like the idea of people using this video and my noise to show their mates what the tyres sound like 😂 maybe I'm in the wrong career
finaly, a review for the STrs that isn't in some sun-scorched, Baja-esque setting, on ridiculously powerful adv, laden with rider aids and £1Ks worth of camera equipment
Haha! I wish I could afford 1k worth of camera equipment!
Worth the wait
Nice review mate, thanks. I had these on a BMW F800GSA, but I sold the bike before I really did proper mileage on the those tyres. I'm on a Tiger now and looking at either the STR's or the Michelin Anakee Adventures so this reviews been super helpful! Cheers
No problem! I've just fitted the Anakee Adventures to my KTM Super Adventure. I do like them but they are noisier than the Pirellis. Can't work out which I prefer! Both handle really well in the wet and dry though
Good review. I am going up Scotland and riding those single track roads with gravel and moss up the middle. That's why I will be fitting these.
Thank you! Yeah these will be ideal for that!
Thanks for this review! I'm considering these tyres for a 2stroke Husqvarna WR300 Supermoto build, just to have the option of going on gravel roads etc with some confidence. Sounds like they are just what I need.
You're welcome! You'll love them
Hi Sam, nice review again, it's interesting to learn what you think of the tyres, even though they are irrelevant to my current bikes. I like what you have done with the garage too,vi think I might get a bobber print or similar, it looks really cool. 👍
Cheers bud! You never know, you might find yourself going off road sometime haha! I'm so happy with it! Makes it feel so much better!
@@SamVBikes I have motorcycle desires and ambitions that considerably exceed my financial resources 😂
Haha wouldn't be worth doing if you didn't!
Great vid.mate on str rallies.They do seem to have the reputation of the best tyre out.I've got them on me '17strom650 & am more confident with them than ever after 6k.
Nice!! Yes, I really like them. I've tried a few others in the meantime and I still think these are up there. The only others that come close are the Anakee Adventures from Michelin
Fully agree with every point you made about these tires, I run them on a 99 wr400 on ktm 390 wheels so sumo trim effectively. They work brilliantly on the road no matter how much I push my lean angles they never seem to squirm or feel like they'll wash out. I've done some pretty intense green laning and again fully agree with your comments they're awesome on the dry hard pack and gravel ( the lads on road legal knobblys couldn't believe I didn't get stuck anywhere especially on 17's) but they definitely show their weakness in the sloppy stuff. What I really love about these tires is if you want to make them let go and spin the rear and float the front end and act like a tool they'll let you do it no drama, but if you back the throttle off abit they find the grip again smoothly and predictably. I wanted more off road oriented tires initially, but as you said on 17's your limited by choice. Glad I was frankly because these tires suit my riding style and type of surfaces perfectly. I spin up the rear alot just for fun frankly and they just don't seem to wear (light bike bere in mind) would definitely recommend overall and will keep running them on the wr400 for the foreseeable future!
Again great review mate
Agreed! They are great tyres. Thank you for watching!
Really enjoyed your presentation style and input. Thanks. I'll hook up a set on my Honda CB650F for a tour of Laos.
Thank you!
I got over 7500 miles on this tires on my Yamaha super tenere, about 200 miles in the desert. On the road they perform excellent
Was able to screap footpegs in the twisties. Never skipped a beat.
Nice! You did well with 7500 miles on a big bike like the super tenere! Really enjoyed them too
Used these on my KTM Adventure 390 which is a tiny ADV bike and only pumps out 45 Hp and even after riding it like a maniac on and off road, I got more then 9000 Miles out of these tyres, currently on my second set and can't think of changing to any other tyre
Nice! That's great mileage out of a set of semi-knobbly tyres!
Good review. I fancy these on my KTM SAS . Look great. Had Conti trail attack 3’s on the last two occasions, and they do 2000 miles of road touring. Still a bit left in them, but never enough to do another tour, which is frustrating. These I think would get me 4k.
I've just munched through some Anakee Adventures in 4k miles on my SAS, so I reckon these would be the same too!
Great video, I think I'm gonna get these on my Street Scrambler. My initial set of Metzelers is just about done.
Seen them on the scramblers a lot! They look cool too haha
@@SamVBikes yes they do!
May try these next up I’ve stuck with Avon Trailriders these work so well across all environments and are brilliant on road.
The Avons really surprised me before! Definitely a great tyre
I have 6.7k miles on the STRs on my Ducati DesertX. Thoroughly enjoyed them.
Have a set of Pirelli Trail 2s being installed next week. These are the OE tire on the Multistrada.
Looking to push the DesertX harder on the road.
Hello, love the video. I considerbuying the tyre for my KTM 790. I would like to know are they noisy at the speeds over 90km/h (60 miles/h).
Love them on my Caballero 500 on mountain winding roads.
Great aren't they!
I have a cfmoto 650mt and Im thinking on putting em on
sam, re-think if you want to consider the Michelin anakee Adventure tyres. They came with my new BMW r1250 GS. OK they warm up fast and the Grip is fine, but they are noisy as hell. A whine like a broken bearing which annoyed me to bits. I got rid of them and pleased to say that I then started to enjoy the GS.
Glad to hear you're happy with the change. I had some Anakee Adventures on my SAS. They were good but weren't perfect like you say! Only got 4k miles out of them too!
Hello, just fitted my pair of Str's, what presure do you run them?
Thanks, Bogdan.
hey bro, great review, i just got my sas 1290 and iam loving the bike, doing some offroad(the amout that the mitas will let me do). iam still learning the 1290, and when doing wheelies on the mitas they tend to spin more thrn grip and pull the front up. how are the pirelli rally and wheelies? :)
Congratulations on the new bike! I haven't had these on the Super Adventure yet, but they were fine on the Tracer!
@@SamVBikes thanks bro, and thanks for replying 💪
hi i have a benelli 502c and my stock pirelli angel gt tyre is almost gone on the sides at almost 6500km. I am planing to get this tyre what is ur advise??? i ride in hilly reason with mild off roading .....
Interesting that you say about the Michelin Road 5’s using green leaning, did you not get any punctures with them? I’m off to Morocco on hardback gravel tracks and hoping I may leave my road 5 trail on
I've never had a puncture off road luckily. Only ever nails from commuting into London. All dry gravel tracks you should be fine on!
@@SamVBikes excellent! Thanks for the prompt reply! Great vids!
Thank you!
planning on putting them on my 990 Supermoto for TET :D
Cant wait to do the TET!
👍
I can't decide between Road 6's, Rally STR's or Anakee Adventure, I do a fair bit of gravel and poorly maintained single track roads,
never had a problem with current Road 5's but they don't like loose gravel and chippings, I'd like to try an 80/20 tyre really. I heard the anakees aren't great in the wet and the STR's are slow to warm up?
leaning towards the STR's though.
You will be fine with either STR or Anakee Adventures. They are both really similar, grip levels, performance etc. I loved my Anakees, had no issues in the wet. STRs do take a little time to warm up though yes and they are a little bit more vibey due to the pattern. I still go in gravel trails with my Road 6s currently too.
Tires make a big difference, put on a pair of chunky rubber and any bike look like a badass tractor.
What is the weight of these tires?
I care about the front tyre
Does it have a good grip when the emergency brakes will apply?
On the road, yes. I had no issues at all with it slipping or not gripping when on tarmac/asphalt
Looking forward to seeing how long they last on your new bike haha
2000 miles tops 😂
Is that a spoiler ? What's the new bike then ? 😃
Haha! You'll have to wait until next Sunday to find out 😂😉
I'm looking forward to seeing your new bike too, I have been looking at older Yamaha xt models but they seem to be a bit pricey. I have visions of green Laning and exploring tracks in Scotland.
Don't worry bud, the new bike will make an XT look affordable! If you need help, I'm really good at justifying a non-essential bike purchase 😂
The sidewalls on the STR ain't that hard, did mine with just 3 tire irons as usual. Thought the Mitas E10 Dakar was a little more difficult, so you should probably don't try those if you think the STR's were hard. Will be interesting to see how fast they will get teared up on my KTM 1290 SAR 😂
But they should hopefully work fine on the Norway trip with the wife on the pillion. Will mostly ride on asphalt and some gravel roads.
I managed to bend 3 tyre levers trying to get them over the rim after they'd been sat in the sun, then heated with a hair dryer! Maybe something to do with the size I bought. Smaller sized tyres might be harder with less flex
How have they held up? Thinking about putting a set on my 1290 SAR as well.
On tenere 700 rally str on road found very good but off road (green lines) they are not good at all, on gravel, sand, if its little bit wet than is nightmare 😉.
My opinion.
Definitely! I found they were okay on some dirt tracks but as soon as the trail gets difficult, or wet, they give up!
So do they do a 120/70/17 for the front.
Not sure! Worth checking on their website. My Tracer had 17 inch wheels which were roughly that size I believe
These or p5s for the road all year round and how do they compare for milage
PR5 or PR6 every day of the week. These are great tyres but you can't compete with an out and out road tyre. I got double the mileage on the Michelins!
If you want the knobbly look, these are great and out-handle their competitors, but only get 4-6k miles out of a rear
how do you see these in comparison to the mighty Metlzer Tourance?
I do like the Tourance's. Found them consistent in all weather, but never amazed me. I do prefer these Scorpion Rally's. More confidence, more wet weather grip, and handle just as well in the dry going quick. I currently have the Anakee Adventure's on my Super Adventure which are also very good!
@@SamVBikes thank you for the answer! my idea is more clear now :D
No problem! Glad I could help!
Anake adventure is worse offroad. Way way worse. Especially the front is really unpredictable and unstable.
I am now running these pirelli str rallys and can confirm this is a better tyre all round. Michelin might be a tiny bit better on tarmack but the difference is not big.
I didn't find the Anakee Adv that bad off road. I thought they were pretty much the same, but then again, I tried them on different bikes
@@SamVBikes I just came from a 5000km trip with anake adventures and can confirm I’m never putting them on again :) The front just doesn’t have large enough grooves for my style of riding. It bounces sideways on even the smaller rocks and doesn’t give me any condidence offroad especially when it gets wet.
But I ride at least 50% offroad usually so I prefer to have a good offroad performance and descent tarmack performance is good enough for me.
I hard anakee wilds previously and probably when these pirelli str:s are done I’m going back to those again.
Ahh that makes sense. It sounds like you're riding is way more off road than most would dare to do on the Anakee Advs! I've just come to the end of a set of TKC80s which have been pretty good. Handle well on road until the end of their life when the start getting pretty squirmy. Anakee Wilds are a set I'd like to try
after 6000 km of mainly pavement, they were out. i had to replace it. thats bad.
bro, I have clocked 18750 kms on my 2019 950 multistarda with stock Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 🙊. Time for new shoes
Shall I opt for
Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR:
I like Rally’s thread pattern. But more concerned about mileage, road noise, efficiency & on cornering.
Or
Pirelli Scorpion Trail2:
Stock - as usual awesome, only thing is not adequate performance on slush.
🙏🏻
Sounds like a tricky decision!
I doubt you will get that mileage out of a set of Rally STRs, but they do handle really well!
Have you looked at tyres like Michelin Anakee Adventures? Or the Continental TKC70? They might offer you more mileage with less road noise.
The cornering and handling on these is fantastic for what they are though!
What's the hardest thing in the world? 🤣
I'm waiting for mine 😎
😂😂 yes they are great!
what is the optimum tyre pressure on the str's as i am having issues
I was running them at 33psi front, 36 rear, as that was the recommended on the Tracer. I normally aired them down a bit to high 20's for any prolonged off-road sections. I've heard people running them at 36F, 42R with no issues. What are you running?
@@SamVBikes thanks for your reply. I have these tyres on a varadero 1000cc. At first I tried with 40 r and 38 f. I had an issue in cornering. It was very hard to lower the bike and when it comes to a certain angle the bikes drops drastically Wich was very scary. Now I went on 36r and 34 front and made a huge difference, in fact the bike handles extraordinary now as if I am riding a racer cornering wise. I don't know if I can do better or not
I'd definitely recommend the lower pressures myself too, which is obviously what you've found. They seemed to handle better but did make a bit more noise on the motorway. Glad you've got them to handle better though!
@@SamVBikes cheers buddy. First time I've seen a review of your and really liked it. Waiting for the next one
Appreciate it! I've recently done one on the Anakee Adventures too. Need to see how long they last with my happy throttle hand!
How much noisy these tyres are ?
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My mistake, mate, everyone loves the tire . Only complaint low mileage
Yeah agreed, it seems to be a hit with everyone! I want to put them on my Super Adventure now but I dread to think what I'd get out the rear haha
Think you’ve sold these to me 🤔
Haha! Always worth a shot! I loved them