2021 2022 2023 2024 KTM 1290 Super Adventure Pirelli STR Rally Almost Killed in 2000 miles 😮
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- A short video to follow up my initial review on my first set of STR Rally tyres used on my 1290 Super Adventure.
I still love these tyres and are my favourite choice. However for a big powerful bike like the 1290 these won’t last long if you constantly ride hard on the throttle 😂😂😂😂
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Hi Ricardo,
Thank you for all the interesting videos about the KTM 1290 SAS, I watched all! Now I bought a new one myself, with most options. Here’s my question, since I am tall, 1.90m:
1) is there a special option to further increase the height of the bar? (I already have +5cm as per Powerparts)
2) is there an option to lower the foot pdals etc to have more room for the legs?
Greetings from Switzerland- if you are close by, let me know
If you are mainly doing rd and a bit of dirt get yourself some Dunlop Trail Max's.Good luck with the new job.Cheers.
Hiya Bruce! Cheers mate on the congrats.. I kept it quiet for a while but given the amount of people already that knew and my boss put me o his TikTok for the dealersip.. the cat was already out the bag. As for the Dunlops.. yeah I hear good things. I just need to decide on whether to go more sport biased. (for short time ayway) :)
good unfaithful ricardo
You don't need so many explanations of your private life.
It's clear that you don't work at ktm but someone gets bored, they don't know how to bother you and don't pay attention. Thanks for sharing
By the way my cat is black too laughs.
Salu2 of your most faithful infidel Pako
Hi mate haha yes I agree... But at least now all is clear I work for KTM dealer now. So no misunderstanding... I already removed some DickHead comments :) As for cats...Jack is a cool cat and follows me everywhere. :)
Hi Rick, Beautiful jacket 💪,
Tires are like women's ass, each one has their own 😂
Hiya Teso.. Yes is a lovely looking Jacket cheers :) As for Tyres... Each tyre has their own personality :)
Where are the Pirelli's made? I heard these are prone to a lot of punctures too when they get a bit worn? subbed.
Hello mate. I have no idea where they are manufactured sorry. Probably a few places around the world if I had to guess and not just one place. No idea... However I have had a couple of sets and have used them hard and never experiences a puncture. Even on low tread.
Probably the best all rounder I have used and will go back to it I think once I am done with these Anakee Wilds I am burning off. :)
Thanks
Ric
I have a question, I have a SAS, Never ever go offroad, Need sport tyers, have done some research, I m considering the Metzeler M9RR or do you recoment another tyer? I can t see the forrest true the trees. Help wanted. I m from belgium, we have nice twistys in the Ardens, Luxemburg and the Eifel (Germany)
Hiya Bart!! Thanks for the message! Good question as I too have considered some proper sport tyre and I would buy the m9RR. I nearly did buy some but with my current type of road riding I needed a more touring based tyre for my road wheels.
For pure fun and twisty roads I would not hesitate to get the Metz M9RR. Friends have a set and they love them. 👍👌
There isn’t really anything else I would probably get if I were to be paying premium price for a sporty tyre. I actually am fine with the stock mitas but that’s just me 🫣😆👍
@@RicardoYeep thanks for the reply, i m going for them.
I Will let you know how good they are. 👍🏻😎🤠
KTM 1290 Super Adventure - Ultimate Protection Combo Outback Motortek
So Rick….. you must have had your SAS over a year now. Any electrical gremlins, what’s your mileage, what’s your average mpg like. Went to order one but my local dealer in Hemel Hempstead do T have any. So waiting for next seasons 2023 model, or the SDGT if the big K but radar on it. Will you be doing any update reviews on your bike or any other stuff soon ?
Hiya Jon how’s it going! Yes your right I’ve got a lot to catch up on and planning some stuff coming up. I’ve not been around as having a difficult time family illness. But for sure am looking at a long term review. In short still the best decision I made 👍
Long term review, spoked rim’s review, new decals yet again plus other stuff.. just not had the time of late but back on it soon
@@RicardoYeep family first, best of luck to you all
Cheers Bud!
is this the tyre called Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR...??? coz even i am planning for the rear of my benelli 502c...??? my bike is much heavier then urs in dry weight... on no what should i do 😮
Hello yes it is the Pirelli STR Rally. It’s great tues but wear out fast 👍
@@RicardoYeep thanks for ur reply. Oh no seems it wont give good mileage then the stock Pirelli angel GT. Did u ride solo or with heavy saddle bags..???
On the STRs they always ran solo.. no luggage or pillion.
@@RicardoYeepthns for ur reply n ur time
Congratulations on a great new job.
Thanks for the sample, I just wanted to buy these pleumatics at 1290 SAS, so I'll choose some others. But it's hard to vote to be at least partially offroad.
Hi RaYama.. Cheers mate for the congrats :) And great to hear you foud the little video useful. I agree the tyre is a hard one to beat. Especially if you want to also do trails.
Hi Rick, you can consider also Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires which great performing on the road but also has great off road grip. I can’t tell you more about the mileage but in the reviews I can see 10-12,000 miles for a heavy adventure bikes. I’m using them on 1190s and have been very pleased with their performance and wear.
Hiya Maciek. Thaks mate.. Yeah they do get a good mention quite a lot as you can see. Mileage looks good too... Sorry I have to say I did like the stock mitas though :)
Congrats on the job change. It's funny how some people look for a hidden meaning in what you do. You have been a wealth of info for a lot of us KTM lovers. I could not care less if you were Affiliated with what ever brand. It shows in your video that you just love moto and riding. I say thanks fir your friendship from Australia. Enjoy the new job and if you ever come to Oz look me up for a ride. Cheers.
Hiya Frank! Cheers mate for that mate. Yeah as you said it I just love bikes and and thing related. I just so happened to have been brought into the fold by being offered a job and coincidence it is a multifranchise dealership and one being KTM :) I will still say ity how it is shoud I be unhappy with anything. And try not to become a Problem channel for everyone now to just discuss issues lol.. However I at least have a stock of toys to play with myself and get some in depth knowledge from the other side now! And cheers for the offer in the event I see myself in Oz for a while again at some point! Cheers Ric
Ric for your next full on road tires try the ContiSport Attack 3. I've tried different brands and models for my 1290 SAS and the ContiAttack 3 are by far the best for twisty roads and highway I've used. Give them a try, you won't regret I promise. Haven't tried the Attack 4, after I'm done with the 3's I'll try the 4's and let you know. Greetings from Mexico!
Hiya Guillermo! Good shout there! I actually loved the Trail attack II and 3s... I have never tried Sport version... If they are even the same as the Trail attacks I would be happy. I have them on a previous bike and found them to be excellent. I assume the Sport Attacks will even be more impressive! And great to hear from another Mexican today :)
I had an Indian FTR 1200 Rally that came with the STRs. The rear lasted 3k miles. The front looked great. I just replaced the rear. I had been considering these for my 1290 SAS, but knowing how fast the rear will wear I will be considered other options. The STR isn't 'cheap' either so it can get pricy changing out that rear so often.
Yeah I am with you on that... they are not cheap by any means.. however still a dam good all round tyre. If you plan on riding at pace often and only on tarmac then you would do with a better option both for feedback on the road and cost for sure!
Hi Rick, I did 6700 km with my first rear tire and I did a road trip last week across the Pyrénées and the rear tire is close to the end after 3500 km.
Front tire seems still ok.
I still like very much this tires and I was able to drive in a same way than with sport tires, even on wet roads, the behavior is really good.
I am not sure to do really more with a sport tire when the bike is heavy with luggage and a lot of nice winding roads 😊
So, I will continue with this tire and specially because the price is cheaper than a sport tire.
hey Austro! Nice to see you again mate.. I agree the tyre is so good its hard to want anything else. It does ride well on road.. But for me if I was touring with luggage I would definately go full road performace tyre instead. They would last longer and also handle better as that what they are designed for... STRs are great on road "for road/off road" biased tyre. If I was ot plannig on doing any offroad then I would not bother with STRS personally! But we are all different and thats what is great :)
hi riccardo best wishes for your next job,
for the tires I mount your same tires but I have the R, they are fantastic tires, the next ones I have already booked, I will mount the dunlop trialmax mission, let's hope
always good🤞
Hey Ric! Thank you for the well wishes. Appreciated mate! Yes the STRs are awesome tyres. I just will have a short break from them for a while I think. You are another supporter of the Trailmax Missions the lol :)
we hope to positively support these trialmax😁
Vai Ric in bocca al lupo… io ho montato delle Dunlop Meridian e mi sto trovando benissimo 😉.
Un abbraccio a presto
Grazie amico, apprezzo il supporto! :) E' bello vederti ancora in giro! Tutto il meglio, Ric
I´m absolutely loving the METZELER SPORTEC M9 RR on my 1290! Grip on track is great, also in colder weather (where the standard Mitas is not perfect). My next set of tires will be the Dunlop SportSmart TT, just to try something different.
Hi Torben.... Now your talking my kind of tyres I think... I am looking at the sharper edge of sports/Sport Touring and not a mixed bias tyre. At least over summer anyway... I will check them out for sure thanks :)
Try Conti sport attack 4s or Michelin pilot road 6 trails, both stunning road tyres
@@jonelvidge9191 thanks mate! Went for the PR5 to test out on my road rims… now have anakee wilds on my spoked. Still think I’ll go back to STR rally’s next 🤣
It is tough finding tires that can handle the power this bike puts down on the street and still return decent mileage. I have a RallZ rear on now and while it is great in the dirt it is a fairly drastic difference in traction on the road compared to the stock AX41 included with the R (still one of my favorite 50/50 tires). It looks like the new Metzler's have deep tread, but a relatively soft compound so it will be interesting to see how they fare.
Hiya William! Yeah I’m with you on that one mate. I’m running road tyres right now for the time being. Missing my STR rally’s though. Maybe back on them sooner than expected. Yeah mate had the RallZ great off road but Woah… on cold damp autumn tarmac they are scary 👍
@@RicardoYeep Ironically they added silica to the RallZ which the Adventure did not have (which in theory should have made wet traction better), but it does not seem much different to me.
Yeah added silica you would expect better wet weather grip. However given tread pattern they will always be a little on the sketchy side compared to a more road biased tyre. Even on road tyres in the wet I still ride carefully not even inducing that yellow TC light if I can help it :)
That's a defect in the tire. Take them back
Hello mate that’s along time ago now mate. And to be fair on the tire I did hammer it a lot on tarmac on motorways also. It’s not really made for that kind of stuff. But just goes to show you can ride them hard if you want. Still my fave all round tyre 👍
Ploit 6. That’s what I have.
Nice one Jon thanks.. I have heard raving reviews about that tyre too. Will have think on that but I am wanting as close to a full on sport tyre I can get (which is either limited or nil...) So will have to do some research.
I use my 1290 SAS on road and on dirt/gravel. I put a Continental TKC 80 on the front and a TKC 70 Rocks on the back. The TKC 80 on the front gives me the confidence I need on gravel but it is extremely noisy on pavement at highway speed.
Hi Craig thanks for the reply and advice. Yeah I have had sets of TKC80s over the years and K60's too. Mix and match on my 800XC. But the issue for me is I am not even entertaining a biased tyre for the time being. I am going full tarmac for a while I think.. So almost Super Moto stylie :) So I dont need block tread.. I am more towards ouotright performance ZR rated tyres.. :)
Hi Ric, I'm also in an office working 8 hours a day with 2 screens in front of me watching me and my helmet next to me...one of these days I'll do the same as you: I'm going to feed chickens on a farm and make videos for TH-cam! 😂😂
HAHA Hiya Guille sounds goo mate! Thats the plan... Always starts with a plan... My wife wants chickens but that is a sore point as I cannot stand chickens and I know I would be the one cleaning the pen.... As for making TH-cam videos lol.... its more work than going into the office!!!! :)
Good evening Rick , maybe you have to reconsider about the street only tyres. With an 80/20 pair of tyres you keep your bike's advance to ride on a light gravel surface(if needed) not loosing much on paved roads exept maybe the track days , but i suspect that if you don't have time for off road "games" you will either have for "motogp races"
Evening mate. Thanks for the advice. I know what you mean by keeping options open. I will see whats out there. To be fair these performance road tyres are not something I have been interested in for some time and a lot has changed. I dont think I will be able to get an outright sport tyre anyway due to the 19 front.. But will see. I do like the Stock tyres which I felt were really soft and quite liked them. Might even get another set possibly
I can't see why anyone would think you had been a KTM shill. I'm running Road 6 now, but I actually wanted Me1 but couldn't get them (damn you Putin) as I'm 100% road. You continue to keep it real 🙂
Cheers mate appreciated! yeah just had to get that one out there :) As for your tyres thanks yes I think I am going to consider the road 6 too. Even going back to the stock tyres as I did like them personally :). Thanks again bud!
Cheers
Ric
greetings from merida yucatan mexico, congratulations on these job changes, you leave one and start a new one and I think the truth is that you are passionate about what you like and congratulations keep it up, since once I asked you what you wanted a ktm motorcycle and at not having a store in my city, you recommended that I not do it for service or warranty reasons, that speaks of the great ethics you have, congratulations, we hope for more videos from you, good routes
Hey Carlos! How are you mate! Thank you for the message and kind words boss.. Yes I remember our conversation very well. And that you were an incredible distance from any dealer should you require any repairs or servicing. I will always be straight up and say it how it is. Ride Safe :) Ric
Nice honest review there Ric. Good luck in the new Job. Living the dream!
Hiya James!!! Thanks mate yeah definitely a change thats for sure... So far so good! new pastures and all! :)
Would pay you to have a second set of spoke wheels with off road tyres on , do a nice review on those lovely powerparts wheels
Hi Ian... Thanks for watching and dropping a good comment. Despite what I said on a previous video that I would never be interested in spoked rims from KTM. I have actually got a set on order given I now started working for them a few weeks back and can get my hands on a set at a slightly "incentivised" cost if you know what I mean. Unfortunately I am in the queue with everyone else.. I wont see these until Decemeber unless there are some cancelled orders :) So Until then no review lol. Cheers Ric
I'm sure that having 150 hp available at the twist of the wrist has something to do with that tyre wear! You may look into the Michelin Road 5 GT for your pavement only tyre. But any performance tyre is going to wear down faster than a touring tyre. Longevity means giving up some traction, which I don't think you'd be happy with....
I just read Thor Blom-Bakke's comment. I hadn't been aware that Michelin has come out with a successor to the Road 5. Definitely check out the Road 6 GT, as he suggests. [GT versions of the Road series of tires are just constructed to deal with the mass of the big ADV bikes.]
Hello Hung! Nice one mate and I think you know me already.. I think that knowing I will only be on road for while I dont mind sacrificing longevity for performance... The thing with the STRs wasnt the longevity issue alone. It was the fact I was not getting either longevity nor maximum performance for riding purely on tarmac. As it was never the plan and was intending to get another dirt day sooner. So I am all for an outright performance tyre or as close as...even if it means sacrificing longevity.. I will just replace a tyre when it needs to. I would by Super Corsas for summer if I could get a front tyre in the 19" but that not happening. So I am yet to see but sure the Mich 6 has good reviews for sure!
I think I will get about 5000km out of my STR rear on a SAS 2021. 95% onroad. But 5% gravel roads always full throttle with spinning wheels. 😬
The Mitas lastet around 6000km onroad but with a lot more high speed runs on the autobahn. I try to be a little bit more gentle on the throttle onroad with the STRs.
Maybe the Dunlop Trailmax Mission lasts longer.
Hiya Max good to see you again! Yeah with you completely on the Mitas and to be fair I would go back straight on them. I really liked them as a road tyre! I still may..... And definitely the trailmax Missions would be better than the STRS for longevity. They are a bit more road biased and tread pattern too more contact patch. But still a compromise tyre. As I am fully on road for a bit I will get a performance tyre as I am not ruling out a trackday :)
Update: 4000km and rear tire is finished. 🙈
@@Verknechter 😂😂😂😂😂👍
La tienes preciosa, felicidades. Espero que te vaya muy bien en esa nueva etapa y tu nuevo trabajo 😉
¡Hola, amigo mío! Gracias por el mensaje. Sí, he trabajado muchos años en la carrera de ratas en la ciudad. Tengo mucha suerte de haber encontrado este papel perfecto ahora y sin ningún esfuerzo. Puro todos los astros deben haber alineado y la suerte jugó un papel :) Gracias por los buenos deseos.
Todo lo mejor
Ric
Out of interest what road focused tyres would you use?
Hiya Bob!! Good hearing from you again mate.. I have not yet determined a tyre yet but something that is more about performance than longevity. I wouldnt mind fitting in a trackday possibly haha.
@@RicardoYeep why not, sounds like fun. Would you use the metzler roadtec 01 SE? Had this on the old XR and loved it. Now comes in SAS sizes
Interesting! I will check them out too thanks!
Rick, Have you ever noticed a shimmy at the front at low speeds ( 30mph approx) with top box on only and the STR's? Like take your hands off the bars and it head shakes like crazy or standing up rally style over the front?
Hi Paul... Yes but not at the low speed you are talking about. Also I cannot say it has anything to do with the STRs... The SAS or SAR are known to have steering wobble anyway. I had it on my stock Mitas and managed to reduce most of it through trial an error testing. I also get some with the STRs.. But mainly at high speed.. Not low speed... Hmmmmm
@@RicardoYeep Thanks for the reply mate. How did you eliminate it in the end?
@@cummomoto hiya Paul. I have not completely eliminated it mate. There will always be some wobble and have come to terms with that.
Main things for me was making sure both wheels were balances, I swapped the large screen for a SAR screen, swapped the standard stem wing mirrors for some small bar end mirrors, make sure I ran in sports suspension and / increase preload a bit more than normal, pinch up the triple clamps, make sure not top box during the test.. did a run and got 145 nice and steady and could have taken it another 2k rpm that was left.
However the minute you add a top box with weight it will remove weight from the front end so will affect handling. This bike is the most sensitive bike I have ever owned when it comes to weight distribution and suspension setup. I think they could have done a better job on this aspect 🤦♂️😂👍
Also one size does not fit all… just because this helped my bike doesn’t mean it will have same impact on yours (from what I have read over the last year) 🙏
@@RicardoYeep Thanks mate. I have tried a few things and removing the Top Box altogether is the easiest solution.😂 I will balance the front wheel again as you suggested because i refitted it recently after pulling off a TKC, problem may be there. It was strange how fuel changed thedynamicc though, when the tank was full the wobble was clear ( no hands) when it was empty it was gone which is kinda the opposite of how i would have imagined it to be. Anyway, Thanks again enjoying your content as usual.
No worries matey, Anytime happy to help! Your doing the right thing and trial and error. One solution on one bike doest mean it will be same on another ! Cheers Ric