NEW Audi RS4 Competition: The LAST RS4 | 4K
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- The new Audi RS4 Competition is the last of its kind - Audi is discontinuing the model after this generation. Can it go out with a bang, and weigh in as strong as BMW’s M3 Touring?
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What do you make of the last RS4? ⬇
A bit underwhelming in all honesty you’d think they’d try to make it look like a last hurrah like they did with the TTRS. Do we know what production year they’ll be discontinue?
Audi have remained stagnant for the last decade. There's nothing really compelling here in any way shape or form.
Waste of time bmw m3 all the way
As a swan-song variant of a fairly decent performance type estate - disappointing. Only 75 cars coming to the UK, probably already snapped up by speculative buyers, sorry but AUDI appear to pushing these final editions out too quickly, before the advent of 100% EV models.
Epic car
Could have gone out with a bang and given it 500bhp, they had nothing to lose.
Or 510 like the competitiors
85 for a decade behind power.
Exactly.. sadly it’s going out with a Wimper..!!!!
it's just old stock trying to push the sales of the RS4. gearbox will have an ecu remapped not changed the box.
limited....lol
What’s the UK speed limit...unless your tracking car it’s more than enough, I actually ran An RS4 for two years and currently run an Alpina B5 because the M3 is to in your face for my taste, but in both cars Pace was never lacking
I remember when I first got into cars, the B9 RS4 had just come out with the V6 and Nardo Grey launch colour and I fell in love. Even 6 years later, on paper, I can’t think of a more rounded package for a motoring enthusiast. Not to mention her iconic predecessors too, B7 is especially cool, where RS took the fight to M properly for the first time. She will be missed.
B7 might be peak generation. I rive a B7 A4 but it's rock solid mechanically and still looks good.
Even more rounded would be a manual. Guess that "privilege" goes to Porsche for their new models. But it would be a more fitting farewell imo!
@@MdvK13979Let’s be real, nobody would buy it If a manual was available.
You might think you would, but the majority won’t and the people that actually would, can’t afford it or would rather have the M3/M4.
The worst part is that you can buy an M340i/M440i and it performs nearly as good for significantly less.
And if you modify it? The stock turbo record for the B58tu is 570awhp, so you can extract 50+hp in the B58 over the 2.9t when you max out the stock turbo.
Once you upgrade the turbo(s), both can make 800whp on the stock engine, but at that point, a G80 is doing that on stock turbos!
I love both cars and I’m not biased, but let’s be honest. Audi could’ve done much better, dieselgate definitely had something to do with it.
Wish they would go out with a bang and make cars like they used to. If their cars got the hype that the M cars did, just imagine how people would respond
I've been driving the RS5 competition plus for two months after driving a normal RS5 before that. Above all, the tires and the suspension make the car significantly sportier. The sound is also much more present. BUT I like the RS5 because it offers the seriousness in everyday life that an M3 doesn't have. Especially frequent long distances would be absolutely no problem. The competition is sportier, but loses suitability for everyday use.
M3 can definitely be an everyday car 😅
@@trcs3079 Sure it can be, got one for a test drive. For me it was really fun on the country roads. But my driving profile is 300km two times a week and a lot of meetings from the car. So the M was to stiff and nervous (like "give me spoooort" :D) for me on my long distance. Buz thats only my opinion :)
I am driving the new rs4 as dayly for month now. What a car. Short or long distance its a gem to drive. Its all i want in a car....lot of comments towards the new rs4 coming from peeps hardly seen one, that alone drive or own one
Thank you for the owner input. The only real points that matter.
It’s not being discontinued, it’s just being renamed to RS5 Avant.
Thot rs5 is the sportsback not the wagon?
@@maxaudi2804 avant means wagon in audi-language.
Really? Has Audi confirmed this?
@@KL-fl4th yes, it’s just a new naming strategy, odd number for ICE cars and even number for Etrons, so there will be a/s/rs 5 avant/sedan/sport back, but probably no coupe any more
@@KL-fl4th Yes it is confirmed, the next A5 will have a sportback, wagon, cabriolet and coupe version. The very same will happen with the A6, which will be fully electric but there will be an A7 wagon. However in both cases the classical limousine shape will be gone for good.
I have a lot to say about the RS4 competition. Since there already are BMWs with that name and do a lot of things way better. The RS4 looks cooler for me but i wish i could've had something like 480PS and the torque vectoring thing for drifting. Then it would live up to the Competition name i believe. But still, the M3 touring is able to beat an RS6 In a drag race🤣🤣
I'd still take the sound of a V8 over drag racing results; which is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Heart says RS6 but head says M3. Both great choices imo
Yeah the m3 may be quicker but really I couldn’t care. I’m still taking the rs6 every time.
M3 size wise is an RS4 for competition not an RS6. Plus in everyday driving you would be splitting hairs as to what would keep up with each other from point A-B. The new M3 with the buck teeth grill puts a lot of people off and speed isn’t everything unless you’re a Brummy doing pointless drag races on YT. I’d take an RS4/6 over an M3 all day long,
RS6 performance will destroy an M3 - as it should... it also destroys an M5 comp 9/10 times - thankfully Audi have returned to form with that car, as BMWs range of cars are equally frustrating, being all go, with no requisite show - ie hideous design and sub par build quality
@@BI-jp3tb - That's completely false, the M3 Touring is the fastest Wagon on the Nurburgring: 7:35.060. And it's also quicker at straight lines speeds.
You may want to do a bit of research instead of flat out shilling ;)
Reading the comments shows that they didn't do the "competition" justice in this review. You need to drive the old and new changes back to back to know what has been done. I've done that and understand what they've done, and it's brilliant!
Audi has added not 1, but a second differential to the rs4/rs5 competition and coilovers that can lower the car. What that translates to is a MUCH BETTER handling car. Think porsche when driving this new car, because the engine is their making, but the 2 differentials combined with the Quattro system moves power to any wheel in an instance. I've driven all the new cars and I'll tell you this, as a "fun" car, f80 M3 takes it for me, the new M3 is not as fun as the last one, loses the thrill you'd expect from it. But as a handling car, the RS4/RS5 competition cars are a step above when it comes to outright handling. The power could not be increased, that is Porsche's call, not Audi's, but what Audi has done here is nothing short of amazing!
Power is important. When an M40i model is nearly at RS performance, something is definitely wrong.
And once you throw in some basic bolt ons and max the turbo out, the B58 is making 50hp more than the 2.9t could.
Simple solution is give it larger turbos.
It would still retain the factory torque curve and be able to pick up serious power once tuned.
Instead, you have to push the turbos within 20-30hp of their limit just to be making stock S58 comp spec power.
/rant over.
It’s a great car, but I think we can all agree it could’ve been better. Imagine if the car had the hype of the M3 or even the M340i. The RS3 has plenty of hype behind it and everyone loves them.
It’s Audi giving the customers exactly what they want. The 8Y retained that with the new awd system that oversteers with ease.
Hoping the next gen gets the same upgrade that the Mk8R/8Y S3 got, the continental turbo is awesome. 200hp increase with a downpipe and tune.
@@PapiAndrey I agree about the power, but Audi has hit a wall here. The engine, as many know, is an engine from Porsche. It is not a choice Audi could make, Porsche had to give them the rights to increase power, which they won't. The alternative is Audi uses their own power plant, but that is a lot more R&D then they probably wanted to put into an "outgoing" model.
RS4 Competition ?! come on Roary !
lol I heard that too.Rory has finally come out as a BMW fan boy 😂
“Rory”
@@AutoTraderTV😂
That's what the car is called. They are using the name just like BMW do
Hands down the best ‘TH-cam’ car reviewer, period!
Audi don't care about their RS brand, especially in the UK, by not offering options that are readily available in other countries. The RS3 8Y was an example
£85k plus options £90 plus ....they'll be lucky to sell the 85 allocation. Most will be dealer demonstrators
Have a feeling electric cars wont last very long
A very disappointing last hurrah considering the price. I myself would buy a non competition model & go down to the local tuner for a stage 2 package & coilovers for 3/4 of the price.
I also just read that it is going to be continued as an RS5 Avant so hopefully they will pump up the figures & drivability to match the likes of the G81 M3.
Great review as always
totally agree tim
So first of all, I don’t like the fact that they’ve borrowed the ‘competition’ bit from BMW, it’s like BMW naming the M3 “M3 Black Series,” it just doesn’t go…
I’m so sad, though, that they’ll be discontinuing this beast. Always loved it on the scene, even though I’m a bmw fanboy and much prefer the m3 touring. Thank you for the memories rs4
RS4 “Competition” or “Performance”?
first thing i wanted to check as well
Competition
This audi RS 4 looks absolutely amazing especially in this black.
its sad to hear its last of its kind.
Any way,the review is awesome.
Hey since you Guy's do bike reviews please do a review on a royal Enfield interceptor 650.
Did this dude really just described the M3 with "great looks"?!
Yup it's the best looking performance saloon to exist. Those aggressive grills will let everyone know that your car isn't to be messed with.
I’m on board with that take. Shocking at first, but every single time I happen to see one in the car park on next to me on the road, I smile and go, wow that’s a beast. Everyone has preferences and we need to respect that. Don’t go slam someone for something you don’t agree with.
@@magnustan841 There is subjective and objective beauty. The M3 is objectively a bad car design.
I find its aggressive look very appealing. It's also one of the most shared and liked cars on Instagram, so there definitely is a market that appreciates its looks.
I ran RS4 for two years, currently an Alpina both cars are more subtle than an M3 Touring don’t get so manny Golf GTi drivers trying to beat you at the lights or on a B Road 😅
😊
The thumbnail is now the wife’s
Iv got a 2020 RS4 avant
The cs is 450bhp and it shows me a clean pair each time on b roads on way home to chipping Norton
I'm an Audi RS and V8 guy. I've owned my B8.5 Avant for years and will never sell it. Audi fully let the team down with this though. The last RS4! What we're they thinking? Go out with a bang and create something spectacular. The Beamer is the superior car in my opinion, hands down. Still, looks wise, the only way it looks the part is when it's been slightly modified. It is a bit of a pig stock.
Nearly a perfect ski-car! Am I wrong for trusting this more than BMW? Audi AWD systems are pretty fantastic. I would trust this more than any BMW system.
Yet again, Audi UK selling its customers short by not allowing its customers to have options given to their EU customer base. They're total muppets and it is costing them sales. I have an M3 Touring on order, owned several Audi RS cars, now switching to BMW. Audi have got too expensive and quality has dropped as well. Their customer service is woeful too.
How does a V6 push out 440 hp ? Even the A45 is a 4 cylinder but it pushes really close at 421 hp; Atleast a 500 hp RS4
Better looking imo than the M3 - RS4 gets my vote
I prefer the standard RS4 over this one. The advantage of RS4 over M3 is it’s a comfortable car for daily use and we can have some fun when we want to. I think this car can’t be used for daily commute as it’s suspension is too firm over standard RS4. By the way Rory, UK is in Europe. We are out of European Union not from Europe.
Just fine for daily driving. Have you driven one? I have 😉
I really enjoyed this review, thank you.
Even with the lower powered versions, driving quattro Audi’s is a pleasure
No es cierto, para placer es conducir un BMW
Love a good RS. What a car 🚀
RS4 comp ok, i just can't imagine anyone looking at an m3 touring is going to think no i'll go for the the RS4 instead that and the limited production. I believe your sentence toward the end said what we're all thinking 'Interior tech and the more up to date designs of the BMW'.
By the very fact that people compare the RS6 avant and the M3 touring and not the RS4 speaks for the M3's abilities
Great comment and in fact car wow showed the M3 touring beat the RS6
@@RS-jb1lfIt was basically even. They beat each other in different runs.
Regardless, one weighs 1000lbs more and only makes 30-50whp more, comparing the two is comical at best.
Would you compare the interior quality or size? How about the handling or other measurable metrics?
It makes no sense to compare the two
I just traded in my standard 2022 RS4 for an M3 Touring. I prefer the Audi.
I will believe it when I see it.....the B10 A4 is coming up soon and I would not be surprised if another RS4 comes out on the new platform......
The new M3, great looks?! Are BMW paying motoring journalists to say these things?
I wish we at least got the A3 hatch/A4 avant S line here in the states. Would love to tune an Allroad, but it's so cost prohibitive.
I am honestly loving that unique gearchange sound.
Rory, What a swansong! Always better than the RS6....every single model. Under the radar... as you say see you at Waitrose with the dog looking sick in the back. A lot of dosh, £85k starting and yet like you the BMW M3 Touring is the new benchmark. However Audi have a 'icon' on their hands here. Super car! Thank you again for superb, real world review.
this guy does his job well 🙂
i had a 2019 rs5 and these things have not changed. Tweaks dont matter. My one was a tad slow vs the other brands offerings and this competition is now also. pitiful
RS4 Competition, same old same old, by by RS4.
the fart at each gear shift lol
I'd get this over the C63 Estate Hybrid, but not over the M3 Touring.
This and RS6 are goals fr
From the parent company that bought the world the diesel-gate affair, we have a car that barely rates a change in it's last hurrah but warrants a rave review that suggests questionable value and very little advancement. In fairness to Labradors, is this the best way to treat man's best friend?
You SUV drivers are really killing off the car industry, all just to sit a bit higher up, which also means you're more likely to tip over in an accident
What car do you drive? 🤣
@@eal_pplnot an SUV that’s for sure
Exactly blame people for trying to show off
@@yes8032 so what exactly? VW Golf? :D Never been a much of a SUV fun, but when it comes to own a car - suv is the best choice for sure. Especially, if you have a family. Fast cars you can drive on track. Stunning cars you can rent to go for the beach. But when you need 4 wheel something for everyday - there goes a SUV for a choice.
@@eal_ppl honestly I’d rather own a golf over most SUVS station wagons are better family cars imo they’re just as practical as SUVs drive better way more fuel efficient better looking I do respect your preference too!
Why not 530 bhp lbs up by 50 would have been something wonderful with all those extra mods. Oh well will just have to mod it to 570 bhp 😂
The interior just doesn’t make sense. It’s so dry. I mean look at the vents. Its so 1990’s. And they just slapped a screen in middle. If only they followed up the design from outside to inside ie. the front grille and the vents
Why are they killing it off?? What a legacy, the v8s of old were sensational 👏 👌🏽 🙌🏽
I think they are just renaming it. If I remember correctly Audi said that from next generation all electric cars will have even numbers, for example A2, A4, A6... and all cars with internal combustion engines will be odd numbers, so A4 sedan and RS4 Avant will be A5 sedan and RS5 Avant, same thing will happen with A6/RS6.
So next gen RS6 will be fully electric while RS7 will come with a V8 (hopefully, and not some hybrid V6) and will be avaliable as a Sportback (same as current RS7 sportback), Avant and probably new RS7 Sedan.
Needs more power the M3 Touring has over 500 bhp that would be my choice and its priced way to high.
I would appreciate if you (specifically you Rory) would review the Toyota LC250 first edition next please
Darn, they’re discontinuing it before I can afford a new one 😢
:27 i just KNOW they’re not referring to the g80 m3 by great looks 😂
Not everything needs to be fitted with a 500hp engine.
It's good the way it is!
Give it rs6 powertrain and call it a day
I like your honesty!
Great review. He does a nice job.
Audis latest cars apart from r8 and rs3 are all so disappointing and underwhelming compared to the competition
This video is a nice way of saying it's worse than an M3
Great video by Rory shame its the Rs4
On thing I noticed is that they finally got rid of the plastic paddle shifters!
Why are they discontinuing the RS4? Does that include the RS6?
Nothing to fear from AMG. Nobody is buying the new C63 estate.
They should have at least unlocked the engine a bit to 480 or even 500HP
500 at a minimum, its 2023 after all.
@@buggerlugz6753 Yah Exactly! and don't forget that its weight holds it back as well
I'm pretty sure this isn't the last RS4, and a new one is fairly imminent, no? It's the last of this generation of RS4, but not the last RS4 ever.
All car manufacturers have started doing out with downsizing their engines, This call feels a lot more civilized than the outgoing beast
A minute of silence for the RS4… you were beloved 🙏🙏🙏
Outstanding review.
Just another failure RS4 Estate 😪.
I wish it was 510 HP, rather than 450 HP TT V6. Anyway, a still great good estate.
Still doesn't sound good, after they put Soft limits and OPF. 😐
I have a 2004 Audi S4 avant 6spd quattro black on black a b6. With a b7 rs4 exhaust. 🎉❤
…but Audi is fighting back ˢᵒᵐᵉʷʰᵃᵗ
Always prefer the Audi, don't think its worth it.what could it bean. Lasting generations should be the best and a legend
How I had to wait for you to review this 😊
don't forget the Mercedes C63 and E63 AMGs, and the Volvo Polestars, and Skodas V-specs, and Cupra Leon, and VW Golf R, and both Porsches Taycan and Panamera, and finally but not least the Ford Focus ST.
Could've shove the V8 from the RS6 in. Since it'll be a limited number and being last you might as well go mental.
LOL LOL LOL Man said Great looks, about the M3... with that front ?
I miss reviews like these Rory! Not sure why auto trader only seems to have EVs now a days......😢
So the question is what is better the RS6 performance or the M3 Touring?
M3 by a country mile
The m3 and m340i pretty much ended the rs4. Sadly.
@@idek_man007 a country mile, there just isnt that large a gap between them
Somewhat…. But, not enough; should have been how you finished your sentence. Audi is fighting back, but not enough. The M3 Estate will go down as one of the greatest last ICE wagons the world will ever see. Even though I prefer the RS-4‘s more understated design. Still waiting too see an M3 Estate in the wild here in SW Germany
The fact BMW compete their M3 Touring to Audis bigger sister the RS6 tells when it’s class should compete the RS4 tells you Audi just isn’t strong enough.
How does it handle the ever growing 20mph zones?
£85,000 for 440 hp estate with an iffy gearbox and sports seats ? Not good enough these days. No wonder they're only bringing 75 to the UK
Very underwhelming with the beast that is the M3 Touring. BMW really has Audi by the balls right now.
lol, so what. Loads of companies have said they are discontinuing something only for them to reverse course or for it to re-appear years later.
Really lovely car but pffft.
They'll very likely replace it with something that means this is all but forgotten or they'll bring it back if and when marketing suits.
10k more a gearbox map? 🤣🙄. This engine can make circa 550bhp with ease. 500bhp would be a start.
Compared to other cars this one is just (one word) Boring.
I mean even the interior looks like my Audi A3 E-tron I had 6 years a go. Nah.
Did the back box have dents in it already!?
They'll discontinue their flagship model , the RS4 , the car that helped quattro gmbh remain afloat ?!
Better discontinue the rs5 or 7 then...
Dw, the RS4 is just gonna come back as RS5 Avant in 2025. Possibly with more power.
They name will change in approximately 17mins lol
Isn't UK also a part of Europe?
At 3m 27s did you mean to say RS4 Competition, or did you mean 'performance'?
What time piece Rory's got on?
Looking dated up against it main rival 2023 BMW M3 Competition xDrive Touring at 84k
Discontinuing is the right thing to do vw should do the same with the golf cause what's the point if it's only gonna be electric.
How MANY people on here commenting have actually owned an RS4 ?
Personally I think it's a great car 😊
Yep…I own (from new) a June ‘20 RS4 Avant Vorsprung in Daytona. It’s a proper Q car (just an A4 wagon to the uninitiated) and that’s how I like it.
If your reading the comments Audi. Please bring them to the States!
It's better than the new C63 E Performance Estate. You can have that one Audi ;)
The RS4 shouldn't have been a wagon in the first place. It should've just been a sportback, a big version of RS3
Audi RS4 has always been a wagon. That makes it legendary.
Sadly audi stopped RnD on thair cars years ago due to electric. Just had refresh and small tweaks since B9 / 2017. This is why they fell behind BMW who arnt done with combustion just yet.
Last of the MohicanS 🤟🇧🇷🤟
Audi have said they wont be making ICE powered cars from 2030....how much will their profits drop?
I'm sorry but it can be the most technologically advanced V6 in the world, but £85,000, honestly, what planet are Audi on thinking this is offering any semblance of value for money?
Can you review the new Honda Cr-v hybrid sport ?
Esse carro é fantástico , e eu ja conheci um rs6 pior que ferrari , anda de mais