Hi, I came across a post you made in reddit on noise gates, which led me to here, which then led me to ISP's site, and to see it on Sweetwater. It was one of those rabbit hole days on the computer, lol, and so glad I came across your post in that forum. I have tried everything to get rid of some electrical hum noise in my signal in my small home studio (no amp, but lots of gain types of pedals on a large board using Voodoo labs power supplies, RME interface, monitors, and computer) , and while I have had some success, there are still lingering annoying noise issues. I have a Decimator G II on my board and use the multicable method, which is fine as a noise gate, but, the hum and other noise is still there while you are playing. I have tried a bunch of solutions along side the Decimator, such as the Ebtech Hum Eliminator input output box and also their AC adapter plugs, all at the same time, and alone, and nothing has worked. Old house with sort of old wiring. I've had an electrician friend (also a guitar player) check things out for ground issues and such, but he could not find anything wrong with the wiring. This unit just might be the thing. Yeah, it is expensive, but hell, I have already spent that much on the above equipment trying to solve this, and I can sell those things online pretty easily, as while they are good pieces of equipment, like you, I have an issue that they cannot get rid of. And, being a Sweetwater customer, if it turns out it STILL does not fix it, then returns are easy with them. I will know in 5 minutes if it doesn't work, lol. I had no idea they came out with this, so thanks for putting this out there. Rock on!
So glad you found this, and that I could provide some context. I’d be very curious to hear if it works for you. I’m also open to trying to address any questions you may have. I just got the unit set up with my “clean” rig that I use with single coil guitars. The noise is pretty unbearable without the ISP unit, so I’m glad it works as well as it does!
@@mofongotron It will be a little bit to pony up for this, but I will certainly report back. Not only for your curiosity, but for anyone else who comes across this, to see if it solves both our bit different problems :)
Thank you for the Demo! I have a Fuzz Face and I Play with single coils. Since the Fuzz Face is pretty noisy on its own, I was wondering if it removes the noise while playing with the Volume Knob rolled down. Is there a way for you to test this? If it removes the hum from the single coils as well as the noise from the Fuzz Face while playing, then my search for a solution to this issue is finally over! Thank you in advance!
Hello! Unfortunately that's tricky; as you roll your guitar's volume down, the gate portion of the pedal will be more prominent and will choke the signal (all gates will do this basically). Still, I think it may be worth tinkering with!
@@mofongotron Thank you for your reply! Isn't it the point of the 4 cable method though that it adapts as you lower your gain and you don't need to change the gate settings? Let's say you find one setting that works, does it really kill the noise while you're playing and holding a chord? Cheers!
@@boooooogi that’s a great question. I BELIEVE you’re correct in this case, but still, lowering the input volume at the level of the guitar may behave fundamentally differently here. Regarding your second question, in my experience yes: it does actively filter out noise “behind” your playing. I assume there are certain types of noise that this will not work for, but the harmonic noise I’m experiencing (a harmonic of 60 cycle hum) is what the pedal seems designed to tackle. Happy to answer any other questions!
@@mofongotron Thank you! This helps a lot. I guess I need to get me one as well after all. No matter what, I hear it's the best solution on the market anyway. If this doesn't remove everything, nothing will. Cheers, mate! Enjoy the silence! ^^
@@mofongotron One more question that just popped up: does it also remove noise "behind" the playing with Humbuckers and crunch tones? I'm asking because I was curious about how much of an effect the Hum suppression has compared to single coils. Thanks!
Is this good for palm mutted staccato kind of playing? Trying to find a noise gate that eliminates a certain kind of hum or buzz after you mute the strings, currently using a boss ns2 which isnt getting 100% of the hum, almost but not eveything
@@jesusangeles19995 it sounds like you’re asking for something that can get really choppy/staccato, and most noise gates should be able to do this. For the NS-2, have you tried increasing the threshold and also decreasing the decay?
I really want to try one of these, but I tried the EH HumDebugger and it adds what sounds like a chorus effect, making it unusable. I guess it's because of the way it cancels hum, removing certain overtones if I remember correctly. I wonder of the ISP Hum Extractor does it the same way.
The ISP is a much more sophisticated piece of gear (I've heard pretty mixed reviews about the Hum Debugger). You are right however; there is a subtle chorusing effect when you run your hands along the muted strings, but it is VERY subtle. I basically don't even notice it. My advice would be to try one and see if it works for you, and if not, return it.
FINALLY!! SOMEONE DOES A DEMO ON THIS WITH A DAMN MESA. MY 2001 TRIPLE REC HAS BEEN SERVICED THROUGHOUT ALL IT'S YEARS TO THE "T" AND THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO KILL THE NOISE FIELD ON CH. 3. I KNOW IT'S HIGH GAIN, BUT I'M NOT EVEN TO HALF GAIN ON THAT CHANNEL. BEEN USING A HUSH-SUPER C RACK FOR YEARS, HATE IT. KILLS MY TONE, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BETTER WAY TO GO. DID YOU MAKE A DEMO WITH EFFECTS INVOLVED IN THE LOOP TOO?
Did you set up the filter tracking or just adjust the hum extractor and decimate settings? The instruction manual isn’t very clear and there isn’t much info on how to exactly set this up.
I agree that the instruction manual is not clear. In this case, I actually spoke to Buck from ISP over the phone and he walked me through it. Truthfully, it was hard to tell if I was doing it correctly, but the end result is great either way!
@@TH-cam372a honestly kinda hard to say. The manual could be more clear. I called ISP directly and Buck provided me a lot more specific detail over the phone that didn’t really appear in the manual. Consider giving them a call, they were super helpful!
Oh interesting! How do you have the unit connected to your Mark V? Assuming you're in the US, do you have it set to 60Hz via one of the switches at the top?
@@matthewcarter5993 Let's try this first. Guitar to channel 1 input on the ISP. Channel 1 output to the input of the Mark V. Channel 2 input into the Mark V effects loop send. Channel 2 output into the Mark V effects loop return. Let's try that basic setup first to see how things work, and then we can go from there. Let me know!
@@matthewcarter5993 of course! I’m happy to help with his however I can; just let me know! We can discuss how to use your pedals once we confirm that this works.
Very, very transparent. I have tested it in and off many times. If ANYTHING a there’s a slight high end roll-off, but that may actually have to do with how the filter tracking was set.
Honestly not really. If it does, it’s so, so subtle. There is a way to set it up to maximize transparency (it is already very transparent), but it it not well explained in the manual.
I get an ugly in phase sound that removes some mid range. And it turned my Laney tube amp into a red solo cup sounding monstrosity. Completely unusable even when it wasn't active.
That sounds like there’s something wrong with the unit, it’s setup, or something else. I’ve tested the hell out of this thing and can’t hear any tonal difference of when it’s on vs off. Have you tried contacting the folks at ISP? They were super accommodating when I had questions.
I was ok with it, got rid of the hum. But this thing is really incredible with the filters set up correctly.
Hi, I came across a post you made in reddit on noise gates, which led me to here, which then led me to ISP's site, and to see it on Sweetwater. It was one of those rabbit hole days on the computer, lol, and so glad I came across your post in that forum. I have tried everything to get rid of some electrical hum noise in my signal in my small home studio (no amp, but lots of gain types of pedals on a large board using Voodoo labs power supplies, RME interface, monitors, and computer) , and while I have had some success, there are still lingering annoying noise issues.
I have a Decimator G II on my board and use the multicable method, which is fine as a noise gate, but, the hum and other noise is still there while you are playing. I have tried a bunch of solutions along side the Decimator, such as the Ebtech Hum Eliminator input output box and also their AC adapter plugs, all at the same time, and alone, and nothing has worked. Old house with sort of old wiring. I've had an electrician friend (also a guitar player) check things out for ground issues and such, but he could not find anything wrong with the wiring.
This unit just might be the thing. Yeah, it is expensive, but hell, I have already spent that much on the above equipment trying to solve this, and I can sell those things online pretty easily, as while they are good pieces of equipment, like you, I have an issue that they cannot get rid of.
And, being a Sweetwater customer, if it turns out it STILL does not fix it, then returns are easy with them. I will know in 5 minutes if it doesn't work, lol.
I had no idea they came out with this, so thanks for putting this out there.
Rock on!
So glad you found this, and that I could provide some context. I’d be very curious to hear if it works for you. I’m also open to trying to address any questions you may have. I just got the unit set up with my “clean” rig that I use with single coil guitars. The noise is pretty unbearable without the ISP unit, so I’m glad it works as well as it does!
@@mofongotron It will be a little bit to pony up for this, but I will certainly report back. Not only for your curiosity, but for anyone else who comes across this, to see if it solves both our bit different problems :)
@@muffkat I’m more than happy to address any questions you may have regarding how the unit works!
@@mofongotron Appreciate that!
How is it working for you?
Thank you for the Demo! I have a Fuzz Face and I Play with single coils. Since the Fuzz Face is pretty noisy on its own, I was wondering if it removes the noise while playing with the Volume Knob rolled down. Is there a way for you to test this? If it removes the hum from the single coils as well as the noise from the Fuzz Face while playing, then my search for a solution to this issue is finally over! Thank you in advance!
Hello! Unfortunately that's tricky; as you roll your guitar's volume down, the gate portion of the pedal will be more prominent and will choke the signal (all gates will do this basically). Still, I think it may be worth tinkering with!
@@mofongotron Thank you for your reply! Isn't it the point of the 4 cable method though that it adapts as you lower your gain and you don't need to change the gate settings? Let's say you find one setting that works, does it really kill the noise while you're playing and holding a chord? Cheers!
@@boooooogi that’s a great question. I BELIEVE you’re correct in this case, but still, lowering the input volume at the level of the guitar may behave fundamentally differently here.
Regarding your second question, in my experience yes: it does actively filter out noise “behind” your playing. I assume there are certain types of noise that this will not work for, but the harmonic noise I’m experiencing (a harmonic of 60 cycle hum) is what the pedal seems designed to tackle.
Happy to answer any other questions!
@@mofongotron Thank you! This helps a lot. I guess I need to get me one as well after all. No matter what, I hear it's the best solution on the market anyway. If this doesn't remove everything, nothing will. Cheers, mate! Enjoy the silence! ^^
@@mofongotron One more question that just popped up: does it also remove noise "behind" the playing with Humbuckers and crunch tones? I'm asking because I was curious about how much of an effect the Hum suppression has compared to single coils. Thanks!
Is this good for palm mutted staccato kind of playing? Trying to find a noise gate that eliminates a certain kind of hum or buzz after you mute the strings, currently using a boss ns2 which isnt getting 100% of the hum, almost but not eveything
@@jesusangeles19995 it sounds like you’re asking for something that can get really choppy/staccato, and most noise gates should be able to do this. For the NS-2, have you tried increasing the threshold and also decreasing the decay?
Been having the same type of problem with amp sims. Wonder if this would work... Computer seems to amplify some noise into my humbuckers...
I really want to try one of these, but I tried the EH HumDebugger and it adds what sounds like a chorus effect, making it unusable. I guess it's because of the way it cancels hum, removing certain overtones if I remember correctly. I wonder of the ISP Hum Extractor does it the same way.
The ISP is a much more sophisticated piece of gear (I've heard pretty mixed reviews about the Hum Debugger). You are right however; there is a subtle chorusing effect when you run your hands along the muted strings, but it is VERY subtle. I basically don't even notice it. My advice would be to try one and see if it works for you, and if not, return it.
👍🏼 great demo👏🏼👌🏼
FINALLY!! SOMEONE DOES A DEMO ON THIS WITH A DAMN MESA. MY 2001 TRIPLE REC HAS BEEN SERVICED THROUGHOUT ALL IT'S YEARS TO THE "T" AND THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO KILL THE NOISE FIELD ON CH. 3. I KNOW IT'S HIGH GAIN, BUT I'M NOT EVEN TO HALF GAIN ON THAT CHANNEL. BEEN USING A HUSH-SUPER C RACK FOR YEARS, HATE IT. KILLS MY TONE, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BETTER WAY TO GO. DID YOU MAKE A DEMO WITH EFFECTS INVOLVED IN THE LOOP TOO?
Hello! This is connected to the effects loop of the amp. I believe I describe the signal chain at some point in the video.
Did you set up the filter tracking or just adjust the hum extractor and decimate settings? The instruction manual isn’t very clear and there isn’t much info on how to exactly set this up.
I agree that the instruction manual is not clear. In this case, I actually spoke to Buck from ISP over the phone and he walked me through it. Truthfully, it was hard to tell if I was doing it correctly, but the end result is great either way!
@@mofongotron so how do you set the filter tracking then? I tried my best but as you said it was hard to tell of it was doing anything.
@@TH-cam372a honestly kinda hard to say. The manual could be more clear. I called ISP directly and Buck provided me a lot more specific detail over the phone that didn’t really appear in the manual. Consider giving them a call, they were super helpful!
Can you do a video on how to set the parameters? I have this and I cannot get it to do anything. My mark 5 is still loud as a jet about to take off.
Oh interesting! How do you have the unit connected to your Mark V? Assuming you're in the US, do you have it set to 60Hz via one of the switches at the top?
@@mofongotron I have it like this guitar to pedal to overdrives to amp. I just don’t have channel 2 hooked to the effects loop. Is this a mistake?
@@matthewcarter5993 Let's try this first. Guitar to channel 1 input on the ISP. Channel 1 output to the input of the Mark V. Channel 2 input into the Mark V effects loop send. Channel 2 output into the Mark V effects loop return. Let's try that basic setup first to see how things work, and then we can go from there. Let me know!
@@mofongotron I’ll give it a shot tonight! Thank you!
@@matthewcarter5993 of course! I’m happy to help with his however I can; just let me know! We can discuss how to use your pedals once we confirm that this works.
So this stops constant hum , does it also stop feedback?
Any noise gate will stop feedback if the level of the feedback is less than the threshold of the gate. What exactly are you trying to achieve?
It's very interesting to hear a clear sound after Hum Extractor. Is it still transparent ? ))
Very, very transparent. I have tested it in and off many times. If ANYTHING a there’s a slight high end roll-off, but that may actually have to do with how the filter tracking was set.
im buying this NOW
Hi..so where do i put my delay pedal?
It depends! Do you use your effects loop for time based effects?
does this cut off your high ends
Honestly not really. If it does, it’s so, so subtle. There is a way to set it up to maximize transparency (it is already very transparent), but it it not well explained in the manual.
@@mofongotron does this affect your pinch harmonics/ squilies on the high e string
@@echy I don’t really do pinch harmonics on the high E, so unfortunately I can’t comment. I don’t see why it would though!
You are a ballar mofongotron!
I get an ugly in phase sound that removes some mid range. And it turned my Laney tube amp into a red solo cup sounding monstrosity. Completely unusable even when it wasn't active.
That sounds like there’s something wrong with the unit, it’s setup, or something else. I’ve tested the hell out of this thing and can’t hear any tonal difference of when it’s on vs off. Have you tried contacting the folks at ISP? They were super accommodating when I had questions.