On bikeforums, many members said that this bike frame was more a mtb frame than a true road bike frame but still great craftsmanship from Cinelli. A friend of mine rides a steel lugged Cinelli Super Corsa in Columbus Neuron with Dura Ace, a very fine bike he has.
WOW ITS A BEAUTY I have lost track of all the bikes you have so far your happy with your new creation and that's great love the video Luis keep safe Sir.
Ive got a Vigorelli Road with some deep section Deda wheels, absolutely love it, like you say it eats the miles and certainly performs when you put the effort in.
Absolutely STUNNING build! This build is begging for a Growtac Equal brake set, much more sleek design and most likely lighter than your chosen brake set.
@@chinaskibukowski7747 we talked about that when I was building my gravel bike. I was looking at Paul klampers and the growtacs are awesome as well, but in the end just saved some money and went with the Juin F1s. It’s totally flat here and you’re really only using your brakes to dismount after you’re done on the levees. The braking force of the single piston juins is more than we’ll ever need here. If we had descents or rollers it’d be worth more consideration
@@trevekneebone369 Agreed and the mechanical actuation design makes for an incredibly powerful brake. They're small, lightweight, beautiful and highly functional. The perfect caliper as far as I'm concerned.
Thanx for making us fall in love with "alternate" material bikes. That's a beauty you built there. On my wish list is still either a Titanium or Steelie bike!🙂
I've recently coverted from alloy to hiten steel, since they can only make the perfect frame size for me hiten steel. I've installed modern components, including carbon wheels and at least alloy fork, and boy it has been the best rides of my life!
I built up a Rondo Ruut ST, little chunky at 18.3lbs (w/ power meter, pedals, GPS mounts, etc.) w/ 50mm deep, 28mm tires. 46t 11-46t. I love the thing, perfect amount of compliance and still does very well at speeds. Perfect for city riding and gravel. I haven't done road group rides yet (I'm from MTB) and looking forward to your video.
Great cinematography here 😁. And good luck with this steel bike build for gravel. Recommend Specialized Pathfinder Pro tires, for both gravel and road.
Never had a steel bike or rim brake bike before. Always been riding disc brake aluminum and carbon bike. As a mountain biker transitioned to road riding, I got my Ritchey Logic Road with rim brakes. The Ritchey bike is so comfortable. I went with all around Ultegra with Chris King headset and BB. I really like enjoy the quality of the ride than my carbon trek bike.
Imma def gonna follow this one. Sounds like fun. Im especially interested in the all-road concept. Not sher how new the concept is, but I like it. I see gravels taking on more duties as a mtb alternative when they start adding suspension to em. Looking forward to the next videos
A bit off topic but I have those JuinTech hybrid brakes on my fat bike/29er plus. I rate them highly but with certain conditions: use at least a 160mm rotor, use compressionless housing, use sintered brake pads and set them up so there is a little tension on the brake arm when it is at rest, giving a snappier feel at the lever.
I'm made my main bikes a custom steel and a titanium frame. I've sold off all but one of my carbon bikes and went with more classic metal frames. Carbon bikes change so much that it's easy for them to look outdated after just 2 years. With a modern metal frame with classic geometry, if just has a look that holds up over time. I'd rather be riding me Speedvagen than be another Specialized on the road. It's one of a kind, built to my measurements and component specs, and it rides so smooth. My top speed is the same as my carbon bikes but it might take a little more work to get there, but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the ride not race to get off of it.
I like steel, but I also like lugs. I have top of the line two bikes from the very early 80s and two Rivendell bikes from 2011 and 2018 . . All with incredible lug work.
@@thegoodwheel. I have owned two Carbon bikes. Bothe tall dollar pioneers with proper lugs. The lugs survived, the bikes did not. Carbon is just another status symbol in my opinion and observation. For the majority of riders, not wannabee racers, carbon is just another object of wealth and status. Another pound or two on a proper lugged bike won't affect performance for most situations. Guarantee carbon bikes will not be revered in the future as are well made lugged steel bikes. Just my observation. I don't ride to be seen, I ride to see.
I have an essentially never used Jamis steel frame (Reynolds). No paint. Just lettering and a clear coat with a psuedo titanium tint. And very eye-catching. This winter's task is to add a NOS Bontrager carbon crankset, NOS carbon-wrapped side pull brakes and derailleurs, and as many high-end NOS/excellent-condition parts as I can find. Even have NOS Askium Race wheels and I put new Panaracer Evo Race on them (I love skinwalls). :) PS My first quality bike was a mid-1960s Raleigh Supercourse I used all through college and grad school. And I still have it. Thus I am again looking forward to a "new" high-quality steel bike.
Steel is real. Ive been bringing out my 1990 MASI quad butted steel framed bike for rides, instead of of my Canyon Endurace. I dont go any slower on the MASI. Not even climbing is slower.....................descending though, the MASI is fast and easy, its always been that way. Had it since the frame was new. So then I put my carbon road wheels and 28mm tires on my Reynolds 853/GRX 810 gravel bike. It makes a nice road bike. Takes bumps really well and is super stable. Maybe Im a steel frame guy despite buying a full carbon Canyon.
@luis scott I have a complete carbon wheelset, (2) sets total along with a rim brake group set. I just need to find a nice steel frame made for endurance riding 📌
The only thing i don't like about the Cinelli Nemo Tig is the pinch bolt for the seat post. It should be a collar design. It just seems to be a step back, and is strange when you look at the drop outs, they appear to be the same as the Cinelli Starship (for those of us who are older). The Starship was a good racing bike, and also had a collar seat post clamp.
Looking at steel for my next ride. I don't race, so carbon has less of an appeal to me. I haven't ridden steel but channels like yours have me interested in the ride quality. I'm prioritizing durability and comfort for long rides. I'm also seeing some nice Aluminum frames coming out too.
After the 2023 unbound midget, we saw pictures of carbon frames with holes ground in them by the Kansas grinding goo mud-rare instance, but steel should have better longevity with that failure mode.
Love the channel man, looking forward to seeing the all road build. I noticed you’re using a carbon fork, and that seems to be pretty common with higher end steel builds. What does that do to the feel/performance compared to a steel fork? Maybe a good topic for a future video 😅
I have the same bike, same color, with ekar group and levante wheels. I consider it a gravel or endurance bike, the only problem I have is that 40 mm tyres for gravel are too narrow for me. I have another steel bike with record that is more reactive on the road, but the Cinelli one is definetly my confortable bike for easy rides. Be aware that 40 mm tyres are really the maximum you can have on this bike, and most 40 mm tyres are actually larger than 40.
I do have my steel bias but DANG if this ain’t a stunning modern steel build! That’s the only thing lacking with vintage steel is the darn tire clearance issues and riding on 32c and up is way more enjoyable. Also, you mentioned “maintaining” speed and I don’t really see that discussed. I love that feeling because feeling like you’re constantly decelerating due to you light a bike is I strongly dislike that characteristic.
For a comparison with other good steel frames, the Ritchey Outback (L) is 2175g, Ritchey Swiss Cross (L) is 1950g. Fork weights are similar to the Cinelli.
@thegoodwheel yeah I have a Road Logic Disc (1945g btw) and it's a delight, especially downhill,, so I expect the Swiss Cross and Outback are great too
Great video and nice bike but 2.2kg is far too heavy! Spirit is a very thin-walled tube-- about 0.6/0.4/0.6 if you bought the tubes from Columbus for a custom build. When I make a Reynolds 631 frame, with 0.8/0.5/0.8 walls it comes in at about 1.6 to 1.7kg (for a 55.5cm frame). A Spirit frame should be about 50g less (accounting for the oversize tubes). Not 500g more! On Cinelli's website they say something about these tubes being "custom drawn to the performance and design criteria of Cinelli". Are they getting Columbus to draw much thicker tubes for them so they pass ISO testing easily? To achieve that kind of weight you would need something like 1.1/0.9/1.1 which is mountain bike tubes. So if you're tempted to ride your Cinelli down the stairs or anything then just send it-- it'll be fine!
Gotta ask what bars you're using they look like they have some length on the drops. The frame looks good . I'll watch to see what you run for gravel wheels
Watching the video of you riding, looks like the Q factor is a bit narrow. Maybe move cleats in a little if possible? Steel might be ok where you live, but here in the wet UK, rust never sleeps😊
The best test for the steel frame argument, is to build the BEST steel bike, decked with the best groupset, and let the top pros ride it in serious competition against the rest. That will prove the viability of steel as a top notch material.
It is made with Spirit, probably not entirely of Spirit. The stays and seat tube have to be a thicker steel, and this is where they can use Zona, Life, Cromor or something else. The welding looks nice and am surprised the cable brakes work with rim brake levers.
Yes my next bike will be steel! Because I dont want carbon or aluminum and already have too many titanium frames. I do have 1 steel frameset hanging with reynolds 520. Is there really any differences between the reynold tubings?
Is it a 2023 frame? Cause the newer gravel frames have a different chain stay? But I like the bike though. I would consider a road version of this as my next bike.
@ that explains it. Cause I have been looking at these and on the gravelframe they changed the chainstay. I am thinking about this and the Standert Triebwerk.
Do you fit on a 58/59? This would be a cool build to compare to my Space Horse. It's super comfortable and easy-riding, but slooooow. I think it's the wheels.
there's a reason that top-of-the-line bikes were basically the same for about 30 years (lugged steel double-triangle, rim brake, downtube shifter) before aluminum frames gave way to carbon and now we have $10k bikes that wont last more than 5 years of regular use at best.
So - Could you do this with an older frame? You said your bike felt like rim brakes. With an old frame, it would be rim brakes. Is it possible that the old frame could even be a little lighter than your build?
The thing i dont understand about carbon is how do you know which companies have a good quality control program? You pay a pro enough they will ride anything. The bike industry is a lesson in the power of marketing. Just because a pro rides it doesnt mean the frame is any good. I dont have the technical skills to separate the good frames from the bad. Another thing about this mkt, the more people spend the more likely they believe they are getting a quality frame. This could not be further from the truth. The big brands know this. Give me steel w a threaded bottom bracket.
I had the the no 1 marketing professor in the world. He said there are two reasons to do marketing: the first is to eliminate the social risk and two to convince people made the right decision after they made it.
Semi-internal cable routing is an absolute no go for me, it combines the disadvantages of external and internal cable routing, it's just stupid. It also looks silly.
Weight is negligible. It only plays a part if you're going up steep hills or you're a pro in the Tour de France. Buy lighter components (wheel set) & Lose the gut weight.
Steel is just classic and dependable- always my go to.
N heavy
On bikeforums, many members said that this bike frame was more a mtb frame than a true road bike frame but still great craftsmanship from Cinelli. A friend of mine rides a steel lugged Cinelli Super Corsa in Columbus Neuron with Dura Ace, a very fine bike he has.
I like this since I ride a Cinelli Vigorelli and I would like to build a Gravel bike. Gorgeous bike you have there.
Thank you, Sebastian!
I have one (same color), but with sram since march. It is very confortable and fast off and on road. The tyres are schwalbe all round 35 mm.
Thanks for sharing. I am going to go with 40s for my first go round on the gravel build. It should be fun.
WOW ITS A BEAUTY I have lost track of all the bikes you have so far your happy with your new creation and that's great love the video Luis keep safe Sir.
Thanks David. Glad you like them!👍🏾
Right up my alley. Subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing, I hope you enjoy the videos!
Ive got a Vigorelli Road with some deep section Deda wheels, absolutely love it, like you say it eats the miles and certainly performs when you put the effort in.
Great video. I am a huge Cinelli fan. I purchased a Supercorsa 2 years ago and it is incredible. If I were buying gravel, this would be it.
Absolutely STUNNING build! This build is begging for a Growtac Equal brake set, much more sleek design and most likely lighter than your chosen brake set.
Thanks! I'll definitely look into it👍🏾
I second this brake has been amazing
@@chinaskibukowski7747 we talked about that when I was building my gravel bike. I was looking at Paul klampers and the growtacs are awesome as well, but in the end just saved some money and went with the Juin F1s. It’s totally flat here and you’re really only using your brakes to dismount after you’re done on the levees. The braking force of the single piston juins is more than we’ll ever need here. If we had descents or rollers it’d be worth more consideration
Recently installed them on my bike. So far so good. Won't miss faffing with hydraulic fluid and bleeding!
@@trevekneebone369 Agreed and the mechanical actuation design makes for an incredibly powerful brake. They're small, lightweight, beautiful and highly functional. The perfect caliper as far as I'm concerned.
Thanx for making us fall in love with "alternate" material bikes. That's a beauty you built there. On my wish list is still either a Titanium or Steelie bike!🙂
Appreciate you! I hope you build one soon. 👍🏾
I've recently coverted from alloy to hiten steel, since they can only make the perfect frame size for me hiten steel. I've installed modern components, including carbon wheels and at least alloy fork, and boy it has been the best rides of my life!
I built up a Rondo Ruut ST, little chunky at 18.3lbs (w/ power meter, pedals, GPS mounts, etc.) w/ 50mm deep, 28mm tires. 46t 11-46t. I love the thing, perfect amount of compliance and still does very well at speeds. Perfect for city riding and gravel. I haven't done road group rides yet (I'm from MTB) and looking forward to your video.
That’s a great setup. I bet it puts a smile on your face👍🏾
Great cinematography here 😁. And good luck with this steel bike build for gravel. Recommend Specialized Pathfinder Pro tires, for both gravel and road.
It will be interesting to watch the progress
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
I've been riding a Columbus steel EL-OS tubing gravel bike, which is quite nice.
Great tubeset
Beautiful bike! I love Cinelli
Love steel , Niner steel gravel and Ritchey road logic. The Nemo is a beauty classic forms its all you need.
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
1:18 belissima! Love it !
Never had a steel bike or rim brake bike before. Always been riding disc brake aluminum and carbon bike. As a mountain biker transitioned
to road riding, I got my Ritchey Logic Road with rim brakes. The Ritchey bike is so comfortable. I went with all around Ultegra with Chris King headset and BB. I really like enjoy the quality of the ride than my carbon trek bike.
Imma def gonna follow this one. Sounds like fun. Im especially interested in the all-road concept. Not sher how new the concept is, but I like it. I see gravels taking on more duties as a mtb alternative when they start adding suspension to em. Looking forward to the next videos
The concept is definitely growing. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
A bit off topic but I have those JuinTech hybrid brakes on my fat bike/29er plus. I rate them highly but with certain conditions: use at least a 160mm rotor, use compressionless housing, use sintered brake pads and set them up so there is a little tension on the brake arm when it is at rest, giving a snappier feel at the lever.
Wow what a lovely build and amazing looking bike 😊 10/10 Luis.. as others have mentioned worth checking out the Growtac brakes 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍😍
Brilliant 👏 video Richard.
Thank you! Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Luis that’s a really nice build great work 👍🏽
Thank you. 👍🏾
I'm made my main bikes a custom steel and a titanium frame. I've sold off all but one of my carbon bikes and went with more classic metal frames. Carbon bikes change so much that it's easy for them to look outdated after just 2 years. With a modern metal frame with classic geometry, if just has a look that holds up over time. I'd rather be riding me Speedvagen than be another Specialized on the road. It's one of a kind, built to my measurements and component specs, and it rides so smooth. My top speed is the same as my carbon bikes but it might take a little more work to get there, but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the ride not race to get off of it.
Sweet!!!!!! Bike!!!!
I like steel, but I also like lugs. I have top of the line two bikes from the very early 80s and two Rivendell bikes from 2011 and 2018 . . All with incredible lug work.
It's definitely hard to beat a classic lugged frame.
@@thegoodwheel. I have owned two Carbon bikes. Bothe tall dollar pioneers with proper lugs. The lugs survived, the bikes did not.
Carbon is just another status symbol in my opinion and observation.
For the majority of riders, not wannabee racers, carbon is just another object of wealth and status. Another pound or two on
a proper lugged bike won't affect performance for most situations.
Guarantee carbon bikes will not be revered in the future as are well made lugged steel bikes. Just my observation.
I don't ride to be seen, I ride to see.
I have an essentially never used Jamis steel frame (Reynolds). No paint. Just lettering and a clear coat with a psuedo titanium tint. And very eye-catching. This winter's task is to add a NOS Bontrager carbon crankset, NOS carbon-wrapped side pull brakes and derailleurs, and as many high-end NOS/excellent-condition parts as I can find. Even have NOS Askium Race wheels and I put new Panaracer Evo Race on them (I love skinwalls). :)
PS My first quality bike was a mid-1960s Raleigh Supercourse I used all through college and grad school. And I still have it. Thus I am again looking forward to a "new" high-quality steel bike.
That’s a great winter project! 👍🏾
Beautiful bike.
Thank you!
Steel is real. Ive been bringing out my 1990 MASI quad butted steel framed bike for rides, instead of of my Canyon Endurace.
I dont go any slower on the MASI. Not even climbing is slower.....................descending though, the MASI is fast and easy, its always been that way. Had it since the frame was new.
So then I put my carbon road wheels and 28mm tires on my Reynolds 853/GRX 810 gravel bike. It makes a nice road bike.
Takes bumps really well and is super stable. Maybe Im a steel frame guy despite buying a full carbon Canyon.
I think you can ride and love both. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@luis scott I have a complete carbon wheelset, (2) sets total along with a rim brake group set. I just need to find a nice steel frame made for endurance riding 📌
It takes a bit of searching, but they are out there.
The only thing i don't like about the Cinelli Nemo Tig is the pinch bolt for the seat post. It should be a collar design. It just seems to be a step back, and is strange when you look at the drop outs, they appear to be the same as the Cinelli Starship (for those of us who are older). The Starship was a good racing bike, and also had a collar seat post clamp.
Looking at steel for my next ride. I don't race, so carbon has less of an appeal to me. I haven't ridden steel but channels like yours have me interested in the ride quality. I'm prioritizing durability and comfort for long rides. I'm also seeing some nice Aluminum frames coming out too.
You’ll definitely enjoy the ride quality of steel.
After the 2023 unbound midget, we saw pictures of carbon frames with holes ground in them by the Kansas grinding goo mud-rare instance, but steel should have better longevity with that failure mode.
Waiting for your impression of how it rides on gravel
Chorus 12s disc, choices for road or gravel gearing would have been my choice.
👍🏾
My favorite bike material. Keep up the great work, Luis 🤙🏽
Appreciate you! Thanks for watching 👍🏾
assuming the bike is designed around a larger tire size? curious if your steering comments will change with larger tires/more trail
Love the channel man, looking forward to seeing the all road build. I noticed you’re using a carbon fork, and that seems to be pretty common with higher end steel builds. What does that do to the feel/performance compared to a steel fork? Maybe a good topic for a future video 😅
Thanks for watching. The carbon fork takes a lot of weight out of the build, mostly.
A comparisson would be a good idea👍🏾
No concern with the internal cable routing causing a steel frame to rust inside?
I have the same bike, same color, with ekar group and levante wheels. I consider it a gravel or endurance bike, the only problem I have is that 40 mm tyres for gravel are too narrow for me. I have another steel bike with record that is more reactive on the road, but the Cinelli one is definetly my confortable bike for easy rides. Be aware that 40 mm tyres are really the maximum you can have on this bike, and most 40 mm tyres are actually larger than 40.
That sounds like a nice set up. I appreciate the heads up. I will see how I get along on the 40s.
Imho the Fairlight Secan is the best Steel Gravel bike on the market right now.
I do have my steel bias but DANG if this ain’t a stunning modern steel build!
That’s the only thing lacking with vintage steel is the darn tire clearance issues and riding on 32c and up is way more enjoyable.
Also, you mentioned “maintaining” speed and I don’t really see that discussed. I love that feeling because feeling like you’re constantly decelerating due to you light a bike is I strongly dislike that characteristic.
You are absolutely right, tht characteristic changes the ride completely 👍🏾
For a comparison with other good steel frames, the Ritchey Outback (L) is 2175g, Ritchey Swiss Cross (L) is 1950g. Fork weights are similar to the Cinelli.
Good suggestion on the Ritchey. I'll have to get on one soon.
@thegoodwheel yeah I have a Road Logic Disc (1945g btw) and it's a delight, especially downhill,, so I expect the Swiss Cross and Outback are great too
Great video and nice bike but 2.2kg is far too heavy! Spirit is a very thin-walled tube-- about 0.6/0.4/0.6 if you bought the tubes from Columbus for a custom build. When I make a Reynolds 631 frame, with 0.8/0.5/0.8 walls it comes in at about 1.6 to 1.7kg (for a 55.5cm frame). A Spirit frame should be about 50g less (accounting for the oversize tubes). Not 500g more! On Cinelli's website they say something about these tubes being "custom drawn to the performance and design criteria of Cinelli". Are they getting Columbus to draw much thicker tubes for them so they pass ISO testing easily? To achieve that kind of weight you would need something like 1.1/0.9/1.1 which is mountain bike tubes. So if you're tempted to ride your Cinelli down the stairs or anything then just send it-- it'll be fine!
No doubt... it is certainly robust 😂😂😂.
Thanks for the detailed information 👍🏾
Gotta ask what bars you're using they look like they have some length on the drops. The frame looks good . I'll watch to see what you run for gravel wheels
It's an OEM Chinese bar. Can't remember the brand. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Beautiful frame 🫶 Wonder where all the extra grams are coming from?
Good question! I don't believe all of the tubes are Spirit. The entire rear triangle feels different.
@thegoodwheel that would explain it
Watching the video of you riding, looks like the Q factor is a bit narrow. Maybe move cleats in a little if possible? Steel might be ok where you live, but here in the wet UK, rust never sleeps😊
Thanks for the tips!
This is what I'm talking about. Feel the steel😂
😂😂
The best test for the steel frame argument, is to build the BEST steel bike, decked with the best groupset, and let the top pros ride it in serious competition against the rest.
That will prove the viability of steel as a top notch material.
Agreed. Rapha Condor team did this but not at the World tour level. I think Continental Pro.
It is made with Spirit, probably not entirely of Spirit. The stays and seat tube have to be a thicker steel, and this is where they can use Zona, Life, Cromor or something else. The welding looks nice and am surprised the cable brakes work with rim brake levers.
Yeah, I am pretty sure there is a mix of tubing on here. It is likely to be Zona... but they don't mention that anywhere that I have seen.
Bring it north for some gravel
Wouldn't mind that at all👍🏾
@thegoodwheel April 12th come on up
Three Scott's have a Cinelli Nemo. 🤔
Yes my next bike will be steel! Because I dont want carbon or aluminum and already have too many titanium frames. I do have 1 steel frameset hanging with reynolds 520. Is there really any differences between the reynold tubings?
I don't think there is a huge difference in ride feel, but certainly in weight.
@thegoodwheel thanks that might save me alot of money lol
Is it a 2023 frame?
Cause the newer gravel frames have a different chain stay?
But I like the bike though.
I would consider a road version of this as my next bike.
Yes, I specifically wanted the 2023 version.
@ that explains it.
Cause I have been looking at these and on the gravelframe they changed the chainstay.
I am thinking about this and the Standert Triebwerk.
Wow❤
I know right?!
Do you fit on a 58/59? This would be a cool build to compare to my Space Horse. It's super comfortable and easy-riding, but slooooow. I think it's the wheels.
Depends on how low that seatpost can go. I'll try👍🏾
there's a reason that top-of-the-line bikes were basically the same for about 30 years (lugged steel double-triangle, rim brake, downtube shifter) before aluminum frames gave way to carbon and now we have $10k bikes that wont last more than 5 years of regular use at best.
Wont last 5 years?🤔
@@the.communist if an aluminum or carbon frame has gets a crack, it's trash. no one will fix it or it will cost more than a new one.
Is this bike frame a new frame or used?
The red calipers on the blue bike look schmick!!
So - Could you do this with an older frame? You said your bike felt like rim brakes. With an old frame, it would be rim brakes. Is it possible that the old frame could even be a little lighter than your build?
Hi Daniel, I have done road builds with older rim brake steel frames several times. Yes, they were much lighter 👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Thanks - Given the high price of road bikes and the many available old steel road bikes, I may give that a try.
8,39 kg for a steel bike with disco brakes? Thats mid range Specialized or Trek weight. Nice build and a beautiful bike.
Thanks Alberto 👍🏾
I have the Nemo Tig Rim road frame in Moonshine Yellow, if you want to buy it let me know… I want to replace it with another Titanium bike. 😅
Ha ha. I've seen your video on that. Bike is special... you should keep it👍🏾
nice sir... i also ride Steel and Ti.. i sold my carbons :) my steel bike is handmade in Japan. name is Svecluck Mudman....
Nice! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
is that a chirstmas tree up already? hahah
Early October... every year, Wife puts it up😂
SEXY BIKE!!!
Thank you!
The thing i dont understand about carbon is how do you know which companies have a good quality control program? You pay a pro enough they will ride anything. The bike industry is a lesson in the power of marketing. Just because a pro rides it doesnt mean the frame is any good. I dont have the technical skills to separate the good frames from the bad.
Another thing about this mkt, the more people spend the more likely they believe they are getting a quality frame. This could not be further from the truth. The big brands know this. Give me steel w a threaded bottom bracket.
Cycling marketing methods can be taught at the University level for business 😂
I had the the no 1 marketing professor in the world. He said there are two reasons to do marketing: the first is to eliminate the social risk and two to convince people made the right decision after they made it.
@@javiersmith2216
Semi-internal cable routing is an absolute no go for me, it combines the disadvantages of external and internal cable routing, it's just stupid. It also looks silly.
i wonder at the end of life,cycling. What was most important! not the bike let me tell you!!
If I buy another gravel bike, I am buying chromoly! No more new aluminium for me.
support your sponsor?
why?
Problem with metal bikes is the weight
Weight is negligible. It only plays a part if you're going up steep hills or you're a pro in the Tour de France. Buy lighter components (wheel set) & Lose the gut weight.