I’m not a runner but my god the Hoka Clifton 9s are so damn comfy. I have ran in them briefly and they felt fantastic because the cushioning almost propels you forward. Easily one of my favorite shoes I’ve ever worn. Hoka has gained a fan in me :)
I bought both shoes a week apart, the Clifton 9 but the Pegasus 39 because it was only $70. It was my first pair of Hoka shoes and I was initially disappointed because they were supposed to be the Holy Grail. About three runs in I discovered I like them and began to enjoy them. It wasn't a break-in period, it was just getting used to the cushioning. I alternate with Nike shoes which has a bit more traditional cushioning. They have their distinct personalities when you start a run but a mile or two into a run their differences are diminished. I'm only running 9:30-10 min/mile so I'm not a speedster anymore but I think these shoes will serve me well.
I’m a huge Clifton fan from Clifton 5 and each time it takes me about 60+km to start to love them, but then I do really really love them!! They are still my go-to for anything over 25km when I’m not going for PBs… I recently did my first ever 50k in them!!
I am a new runner. I just got the Pegasus 39 for about $20 so well worth it and also have the Clifton 9. The Clifton 9 is more comfortable but they are both good for me so far so I switch between them.
i started runing 2 mounth ago, i ran in like random sports shoes so my family decided to buy me some runing shoes for my birthday. They bought the nike pegasus 39 and when i got them i was really happy^^ i had no problems fitting into them tho i thought that this shoes felt quite "hard" on the ankles. I have to say, i have no background in runing so my feet, ankles, tendons, basically everything down there wasnt used to all this incoming force. The first view runs i felt really good but like after 2 weeks and way too many KM (for a beginner), i got some serious ankle and achilies problems. I found out (the hard way of course) that i actually needed some max stability and max cushion shoes. I needed to take a break for 2 weeks then i started with some light weight training, a little bit of stretching wich actually helped me recover from this. i bought the Hoka Arahi 6 shoe wich was a really good choice. I am still using this shoe and maybe later on, when my feet get a bit stronger, iam gonna carefuly try the pegasus shoe again. i got my ankle problems from multiple problems but i still feel like the pegasus shoe is quite firm 😎
The way I see it is that technology has allowed other shoes to surpass the Pegasus. The fact that it hasn't changed much, has hurt it. I see it more as a track shoe, or a cross training shoe to take to the gym and maybe used for the shorter runs. I would not use it as a daily trainer or for long milage runs, there are just much better shoe options out there now. I feel like since it didn't adapt enough, it got left behind. Unless you are a legacy user of the shoe, or just loyal to Nike, I would not recommend it.
@@ChrisfromDevelopment Asics Nimbus and Cumulus 25, On Cloudsurfer, Mizuno Waverider 27, Brooks Glycerin, Saucony Triumph 20, Diadora Atomo 7000, Altra Rivera 3 and Torin 7, New Balance 1080. I would recommend any of these before the Pegasus. But my favorite go to is the Asics Novablast 3.
I would absolutely recommend the Clifton over the Pegasus any day … such a reliable comfortable shoe with a nice light rocker and a low drop that lasts reasonably well!!
Very good review; the Clifton is my choice and I recommend it based on various runs. And by the way, please, please buy Nick a decent microphone ! Sounds like he is using his iPhone as a mic source and if he is using a proper mic, then it needs replacing! Not the first awful audio quality video from Nick - it is constantly bad! Sort it boys!
Any comments on the footbed? Is the Pegasus a flatter platform? I have had trouble with Hoka in the past because of my wide forefoot and had discomfort because the sidewalls push up on the edges of my foot.
Hoka Clifton and Bondi is known to have that problem if your medial hovers over the medial plain of the shoe. It's like a bar that you feel under your foot. It's hit or miss, not everyone experiences it; but it is a thing. How wide are you? Are you 2E Wide? Else, I would recommend something along the lines of a New Balance, Mizuno, or Brooks Glycerin. They come with a wider toe box, and lock in the mid foot well.
@@ericobarrera6580 I’m probably a 2E forefoot, but I have a high arch and narrow heel. Currently I’ve got wide versions of the Ride and Kinvara. On both, I skip some lacing near my metatarsal heads to give a little more space.
@@andrewflynn4306 Wide Forefoot with a narrow heel is a tricky one. If you go wide, it's probably too loose in the heel. What else have you tried? Have you tried New Balance 880? Or the Altra Torin 7?
@@ericobarrera6580 tried the 880 wide, and it had heel slip. Tried on a pair of Torin 6. They were OK, but felt snug on the lateral edge of my foot. I have a tailor’s bunion on my pinkie, likely from too many years of narrow toe boxes. That’s mostly where the space is required.
I mean that's over 300 miles which is the average life expectancy for running shoes to my understanding. I think you got a good bit of use out of them.
Triumph 20 for me. It gives more of an energy response. And the sock liner also includes the Power Run Plus cushion that's in the midsole. But both will give you the support you need for your runs.
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I’m not a runner but my god the Hoka Clifton 9s are so damn comfy. I have ran in them briefly and they felt fantastic because the cushioning almost propels you forward. Easily one of my favorite shoes I’ve ever worn. Hoka has gained a fan in me :)
The Pegasus outsole is way better for slippery conditions so that was my easy choise over Clifton.
I love my pegasus 40"
I bought both shoes a week apart, the Clifton 9 but the Pegasus 39 because it was only $70. It was my first pair of Hoka shoes and I was initially disappointed because they were supposed to be the Holy Grail. About three runs in I discovered I like them and began to enjoy them. It wasn't a break-in period, it was just getting used to the cushioning. I alternate with Nike shoes which has a bit more traditional cushioning. They have their distinct personalities when you start a run but a mile or two into a run their differences are diminished. I'm only running 9:30-10 min/mile so I'm not a speedster anymore but I think these shoes will serve me well.
I’m a huge Clifton fan from Clifton 5 and each time it takes me about 60+km to start to love them, but then I do really really love them!! They are still my go-to for anything over 25km when I’m not going for PBs… I recently did my first ever 50k in them!!
I’ve been using the Pegasus for all my tempo work usually up to 10k and my Clifton for everything longer and slower I thing it’s an amazing rotation
I am a new runner. I just got the Pegasus 39 for about $20 so well worth it and also have the Clifton 9. The Clifton 9 is more comfortable but they are both good for me so far so I switch between them.
Puma Velocity 2 mentioned at 10.38. I knew he was going to say that! 🙂
As a footballer I love the Pegasus because it is responsive like a football boot on the grass, especially the mercurial with the air zoom pocket
i started runing 2 mounth ago, i ran in like random sports shoes so my family decided to buy me some runing shoes for my birthday. They bought the nike pegasus 39 and when i got them i was really happy^^ i had no problems fitting into them tho i thought that this shoes felt quite "hard" on the ankles. I have to say, i have no background in runing so my feet, ankles, tendons, basically everything down there wasnt used to all this incoming force. The first view runs i felt really good but like after 2 weeks and way too many KM (for a beginner), i got some serious ankle and achilies problems. I found out (the hard way of course) that i actually needed some max stability and max cushion shoes. I needed to take a break for 2 weeks then i started with some light weight training, a little bit of stretching wich actually helped me recover from this. i bought the Hoka Arahi 6 shoe wich was a really good choice. I am still using this shoe and maybe later on, when my feet get a bit stronger, iam gonna carefuly try the pegasus shoe again. i got my ankle problems from multiple problems but i still feel like the pegasus shoe is quite firm 😎
The way I see it is that technology has allowed other shoes to surpass the Pegasus. The fact that it hasn't changed much, has hurt it. I see it more as a track shoe, or a cross training shoe to take to the gym and maybe used for the shorter runs. I would not use it as a daily trainer or for long milage runs, there are just much better shoe options out there now. I feel like since it didn't adapt enough, it got left behind. Unless you are a legacy user of the shoe, or just loyal to Nike, I would not recommend it.
What shoe would you recommend as a daily trainer?
@@ChrisfromDevelopment Asics Nimbus and Cumulus 25, On Cloudsurfer, Mizuno Waverider 27, Brooks Glycerin, Saucony Triumph 20, Diadora Atomo 7000, Altra Rivera 3 and Torin 7, New Balance 1080. I would recommend any of these before the Pegasus. But my favorite go to is the Asics Novablast 3.
@@ChrisfromDevelopmentsaucony endorphin speed 3 is an amazing do it all shoe, Hoka Mach 5, Puma Deviate Nitro 2
thouse are speed shoes not daily trainer@@lmozza4402
Lol very wrong. It’s a daily trainer, not a super shoe. It’s been a staple for 40 years in the running community and will continue to be.
I would absolutely recommend the Clifton over the Pegasus any day … such a reliable comfortable shoe with a nice light rocker and a low drop that lasts reasonably well!!
My choice is Hoka Clifton 9. It passed its test quite well 👌🏼😊
Very good review; the Clifton is my choice and I recommend it based on various runs. And by the way, please, please buy Nick a decent microphone ! Sounds like he is using his iPhone as a mic source and if he is using a proper mic, then it needs replacing! Not the first awful audio quality video from Nick - it is constantly bad! Sort it boys!
Nick was on a set of crappy earbuds. Thus the crappy mic.
To me the pegasus 40 is more stable than the hoka Clifton 9. The pegasus 40 is my go to shoes"
Which Nike running shoes does the Gaviota 5 DIRECTLY is comparable with??
I like the pegasus for the office, never used for runs. Haven't tried Hoka yet but I'm tempted.
I always like hoka for theor wide toe options.
Does nike running shoes have wide toe?
Narrow toe shoes don't work for me
If you're a daily runner, get the pegasus, you're gonna be paying a lot of money for shoes every couple months
What's the point in the clifton when the best cushioned shoe already exists with Mach 5?
Any comments on the footbed? Is the Pegasus a flatter platform?
I have had trouble with Hoka in the past because of my wide forefoot and had discomfort because the sidewalls push up on the edges of my foot.
Hoka Clifton and Bondi is known to have that problem if your medial hovers over the medial plain of the shoe. It's like a bar that you feel under your foot. It's hit or miss, not everyone experiences it; but it is a thing. How wide are you? Are you 2E Wide? Else, I would recommend something along the lines of a New Balance, Mizuno, or Brooks Glycerin. They come with a wider toe box, and lock in the mid foot well.
I have the same issue! Similar trouble causing blisters with Puma shoes that also have that annoyingly curved footbed.
@@ericobarrera6580
I’m probably a 2E forefoot, but I have a high arch and narrow heel. Currently I’ve got wide versions of the Ride and Kinvara. On both, I skip some lacing near my metatarsal heads to give a little more space.
@@andrewflynn4306 Wide Forefoot with a narrow heel is a tricky one. If you go wide, it's probably too loose in the heel. What else have you tried? Have you tried New Balance 880? Or the Altra Torin 7?
@@ericobarrera6580 tried the 880 wide, and it had heel slip. Tried on a pair of Torin 6. They were OK, but felt snug on the lateral edge of my foot.
I have a tailor’s bunion on my pinkie, likely from too many years of narrow toe boxes. That’s mostly where the space is required.
Compare to Nike React Infinity 3 please!
Just notice runners don't shave their legs, what's that?
Nick made it almost 11 minutes without saying jack shit about the Puma Velocity Nitro 2.
Impressive.
To be fair, the Puma is cheaper, better for running in and more durable.
@@grantmckay7014 it aint cheaper than the peg
Before I make a review, which manufacturer paid for your promotional video. I hope you don't mind me asking young chap.
got clifton 9 my first running shoes: they
seem dead after around 500km. looking for more durable shoes
I mean that's over 300 miles which is the average life expectancy for running shoes to my understanding. I think you got a good bit of use out of them.
Clifton or Triumph 20/1?
Triumph 20 for me. It gives more of an energy response. And the sock liner also includes the Power Run Plus cushion that's in the midsole. But both will give you the support you need for your runs.
Triumph!
Pretty easy call: get a pegasus 39 for eighty bucks
Same price for the Clifton 8!!