Jeb Garcia Bikes are dangerous since most drivers are distracted or damn near blind on the roads today. Heck, many morons in SUVs barely see me in my Mustang.
@@angelgjr1999 .. My Dad had a Mustang. You have no worries in that car.. They run like the wind. Dad use to race teenagers in their Modified Street Machines. He would back off at about 90 mph. Not bad for someone who was in their 70s. He loved that car.
John Wahan Yeah man I love my car. Has a few mods including gears. I can get to 70 mph in like 5 seconds. It’s fast for an “old” 2003 Mustang GT. I had to fix it up a bit but that makes a project car fun.
@@TomTheCat. if you get your car serviced at an official repair shop its recorded on carfax. Private shops don't update. Worked for a used car dealer for a while. You would be suprised how many cars had accident damage not on the carfax that was repaired privatly.
Traded in two cars with new car dealerships this year and both dealers wanted me to leave mileage blank on signed over title. Needless to say I filled in correct mileage on title. I was not going to let them fill in mileage after I left! Don’t let them do that to protect yourself from being sued for odometer fraud!
@@mikehawk1673 General rule of thumb is a 20% loss in value (mostly referring to american made cars). For a $30k car that's a $6k loss. GENERALLY it's true. Yes there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule (Toyota, Honda, Lexus etc) but also every new vehicle loses thousands of dollars in value in the first year. That's one reason leasing is becoming more popular. For my 2019 Tacoma I bought 4 months ago for $33k, it's now worth $28k-$30k and it hasn't even been on the road for long.
FrEdDiE as someone who details cars at a dealership (I’m in no part connected to the sale of them) I can 100% vouch for this. Stay safe and just Facebook/Craigslist your cars, you’ll save so much more money just taking it to a shop for whatever repairs it needs rather then buying at a dealership
I see some ignorance in these comments lol car dealerships are so regulated by the state .. there's not a new car that would take such a chance...lot of these dummies doing this s*** rolling back don't realize that you get about five years in prison for I personally know somebody who did at a old dirt lot .... Everybody should be happy for car they bring a lot of money to your town and convenienceyou might not realize what they do for your town but if every car dealership in your town left you be no town USA ... And furthermore whenever you see people Sue car dealerships 90% of the time they lose because there's an old saying in the car dealership..... Buyers are liars... And it stands so true
Damn, I use the mileage on my vehicles as a testament to how I take care of them (both have over 200k on them now). This is an utterly useless fraud nowadays. I'd rather have a car with a bunch of miles that was well taken care of than a car with less miles that was neglected.
Many years ago, my car's speedometer quit working. Then I noticed the odometer wasn't registering either. I drove it for like 5 more years with no miles counted. Finally it got wrecked and ins adjuster said wow, only 70k miles...lol it really had about 150k. True story.
Yeah the Ecm doesn't store miles. The newer models store oil change history. If your able to gain access to the motherboard of the ecm you can decode the oil change intervals and get a ball park estimate of the miles but not accurate.
Ughh okay ? So you're glad that your 20 + year car that you think you bought with 120,000 on the odo, really has 1,200,000.. because it's exempt ? YOu're still getting screwed... and possible more. lol
That happened to my 1996 Honda Accord, until I replaced the speed sensor. The few hundred miles it didn't register makes little difference when the car has over 300K miles.
Imagine screwing over the dealership by changing the odometer, trading it in for higher value, only for them to sell it for 2x the value you put on the odometer, only to now purchase a car for 4x the actual value....vicious cycle.
TFAY first of all, your typo in English didn’t give viewers some assurance for your English level. What is this, “ completley” ?! completely is the correct spelling! Second is your reading English level. What do you think “ odometer adjustment” actually meaning here? This word actually was shown in BOTH of the items as well, so don’t say “ completely” unrelated because this is one of the relation already. The odometer doesn’t need any assistance from any machine to change anything because there is no button (except a button to press down for clear out the “ mileage” of driving distance) on the odometer at all. If any machine like this video shown at 1:45 and 1:51, which means using OBD2 related plug, is the way they use it to “ adjust” the odometer, that is automatically illegal and against the law just like the video said already. Only scan is alright, but if the title of advertisement shows” adjustment” while it is not legal to, well...you guess it. Illegal dude!
You are wrong ! I looked up the OBD 2 tool on eBay that was shown and it does adjust odometer miles !!! See for yourself !!! Many listed for $200 or less from CHINA !!!
2:40 how is someone supposed to know if their car has an altered odometer? Will the buyer get charged for this crime even though they never knew anything about this? I feel this is a crime that should charge car salesmen wether at a dealership or at a mom and pops small car lots and not the ppl that drive them to work
One thing to keep in mind with Carfax is that it doesn’t always tell the whole story. I once had a hand me down Volvo wagon that was passed through the family since it was 1 year old. I took it to an inspection station when it had 232000 miles and they accidentally transposed the numbers are reported it has having 322000 miles. It was a mess to get it corrected but luckily I had all the service records all the way back to the check my grandfather wrote for the down payment.
One time I went to a dealership to look at a van that supposedly had 60,000 miles the seats were worn out the van looked worn out had metal shavings in transmission fluid and carfax disputed the mileage the dealership tried to play it off like the person who sold it to them was in dispute with carfax how can you dispute physical evidence
The manufacturer has a feature that lets you see how many miles it's been since the check engine light was reset. Seems logical the odometer would have the same functionality.
What do you do if/when you need to legitimately program the mileage ie: the original gauge cluster fails for whatever reason analog or digital and needs replaced?
Any local shop or online vendor that repairs instrument clusters can legally program the correct mileage on to the cluster, if the repair requires it. Case in point... when I bought my 2004 GMC Yukon years ago, the instrument cluster needed repair and the dealership replaced the complete assembly under warranty, but I was responsible for paying the labor to program it. What this video doesn't make clear is if the people rolling back odometers are also manipulating the vehicle's BCM or ECM as well. I am under the impression that one or both of these modules stores the mileage as well as the cluster. So if you change one but not the others then it is a good way to get caught.
Damn folks...miles show up on things like rubber on break pedal. Seat wear. Door jamb scuffs...j could go on and on but just use common sense and look for obvious signs of extreme mileage.
You cannot under any circumstance reset the mileage on a vehicle, period. If you replace your engine you must then maintain your mileage manually otherwise you are breaking the law.
The mileage is supposed to reflect chassis mileage. You can't legally "reset" it for an engine change, but it is legal (at least in my area) to "correct" used parts such as an instrument cluster to display the actual chassis mileage of the vehicle they're being installed into.
The computer shows the actual mileage. The display on the gauge cluster is just a display and that’s what they are changing but the computer will have the mileage stored
@Goddess Sky that car is on the lemon list so your lucky it has low km wait till you get to 60.000 miles and every thing will brake if it didn't by then
Just an FYI, these devices are intended to change the mileage if you change the gauge cluster. Many vehicles only store the mileage in the gauge cluster, so if you have to replace the cluster, this tool allows the cluster to show the correct mileage
Happened to me here in California.. found out 6 months later it was rolled back about 100k, then I sold the car to someone else. It was a Honda so it was an easy sale.
Doesn’t anybody notice how he started to laugh as well as the person in the car when he stated that there are people working to protect customers from this type of fruad
So here in my state when you buy a vehicle, the title Is presented to DMV, for registration with the sell/ purchased mileage recorded on it...so since the state/government require us for Personal ID info, proof of insurance, personal property taxing,etc., so would it seem logical for DMV, an government ran system could red flag any vehicle when entering the vin# where as the mileage shows a decline since last sell/purchase.Just a thought🤔
No surprise.. Jacksonville has this issue... this town has issues with car prices already.. my last 2 purchases were 150 miles from this city.. there has been a car issue in jax for some time..
Most of them are in the gauge cluster unfortunately. You can even get one from the junkyard and swap it out and they'd never know except for what they said, smog records and stuff
Depends on the car. BMW, for instance, does store the mileage in more than one ECU which makes them more difficult to "roll back." Additionally the chip that stores the mileage in the cluster generally can't be reprogrammed without physical access to the chip itself so it is much more difficult to do than what is shown in this video. It can still be done but requires a significant amount of technical knowledge and to some extent, equipment.
Funny thing is my wife has a 2015 honda accord and her actual miles are 40,389 we bought the car in 2015 with 427 miles on it , thing is if she were to trade it in would this question come up and what steps do they or will they do to prove it
My nephew worked at a Chrysler dealership that actually owed an odometer rollback device, it was his job to roll back to odometer on used cars that didn't have previous records that could be traced back, thus the dealer making bigger profits on some of the used cars being sold. My nephew didn't work there long as he didn't like doing their dirty tricks anymore and he quit after just a few weeks.
I have found that Carfax does not report all accident claims VIN specific, in fact it would be in the governments worst interest to allow insurance companies report to a 3rd party company as these actions would only inform and benefit potential buyers. Inspect your used vehicles thoroughly.
It is ridiculous how easy it is to changed an odometer. The old mechanical ones were actually really easy to change also. However, they took some time to change. The digital odometers take almost no time to change. They are easier to change than the mechanical. The serial interface is super easy to use with a terminal programme, a smartphone, and a Prolific USB to serial adaptor. I changed my odometer when I changed my instrument panel. I changed it to match the old one.
Happened to me twice. I bought a caddy in Miami and they took over 100K off it. Only found out because the car ended being totalled about two months later. The Insurance company found out. Nobody could find that guy. Another time was a Chevy van in Maryland not far from Baltimore. Both times was from a road side used car business. The one in Maryland came with a carfax. No problems. When I went to sell the car THEN carfax branded it. Yea, big help carfax. They both ran fine and I had no problems with either of them.
Buy from a private seller where you can speak the the person about the car. Negotiate a price and make a calculated decision on what’s best for you. If something doesn’t add up just keep looking.
Can get in trouble for owning one with a roll back. So you buy one and don't know then sell it and end up in jail. Sounds like a law made in California
When I was a teenager my mom had an 03 Avalanche with 200k and the gauge cluster crapped out so I bought a used on online and and when I hooked it up all the gauges worked but the truck now only had 80k... my mother traded in the vehicle shortly after and we told the dealer the miles were inaccurate but it would have been easy to pass it off private party because the truck was garage kept and in immaculate condition
I know a dealer in my area that does this often. He sells his cars cheap though. I bought a car from a private party recently it said 134k miles but looking at the csr and from experience i knew it was over 200k. Then when i saw the title the dealer was the same guy i just talked about who basically rolls back most of the odometers of the cars he sells. I bought the car anyways cuz the engine and trans were great and it was a Toyota. I later checked the carfax and it said 260k miles LOL. Like come on man i dont mind if you roll it back like around 50k miles but 130k miles roll back is just too much .
@@mitchellwilliams4242 yeah i am sure it would . If its maintained well these things can last forever. I have a toyota fj ceuiser with over 270k still runs like new.
You can look at the interior and tell if it’s been driven a lot. Look underneath around the oil pan and transmission. Low mileage cars shouldn’t have gunk build up
Check service history. Any high mile car should have a service history. If there is no service history you probably dont want to buy it regardless of mileage.
My '98 Suburban got rolled back about 90,000 miles, but I didn't find out until after the fact when I did a carfax report. I only paid $900 for the truck, so I wasn't too worried (also the person I bought it from wasn't responsible). It's currently sitting at 309,000 miles on the original engine and still running strong.
My Grandad used to make my dad turn back mileage on cars he was selling when he was a teenager and to tell you how long it's been going on my dad was 70 when he passed away in 2016
What can I do to get justice? That’s the real question what can we do? Who do we call because that just happened to me and they gave me the title two weeks after saying auto meter not correct but they didn’t tell me any of that when I bought it they completely scammed me, so what do we do?
Buying brand new car, they rolled back odometer , sell the cars more money and the government getting more taxes on that extra money,,why government try to stops this crime ,,that would be stupid
Some OBD scanners can read both Odometer mileage and total distance driven stored in ECU and if they differ there's a problem. However ECU can be altered as well 🤷🏽♂️
They are not allowed to, if they did and they were caught doing so the dealership could get in serious legal/financial troubles as such would be breaking privacy laws.
Check the carpet near gas pedal. There is no way to fix that unless you replace the carpet which will be a glaring red flag. That said, my father has a 2003 Yukon with 190000 miles and it almost looks new.
@@twoeightythreez That does not prove anything either. I buy new cars every 4years and I always put extra carpets on my floor board. My carpets always looked brand new when I traded it in. My steering wheel and seats get extra covers. Go figure.
I saw the comments before I watched the video. Daaamn you people are funny. I busted out laughing when the guy in the truck😳 popped up on screen!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I bought a car 2 years ago for $7,000, to later find out that the odometer was rolled back almost 100k miles. I contacted the guy that sold me the car and told him that if he didn’t buy the car back from me for MORE than what I bought it for, then I was going to report him to the police and that he’d face jail time. He ended up buying it back from me for $9,000. 🤣
Miles on the car are not for the engine only. Transmission, suspension, seats.. etc. Just because you changed the engine doesn't mean you have to adjust the miles for the new engine.
This doesn’t work in New York every year you must do an emissions inspection and your odometer reading has to be inputted after they scan your registration can get around
Sad part is I've had this done to me someone just swapped out the whole gauge cluster literally had evidence of everything that was done to the car i bought it off a scum bag. I ended up going to police and all they said the vehicle was older than 10 years we cant do anything about it.
Yeah that’s the sad part. Many police departments don’t care about citizens getting ripped off. They’ll do 100 mph just to catch up to you and give a speeding ticket though. Pigs.
Never heard Anyone go to prison for this crime, looks like is win win situation 8000 pays more tax than 3000.,, would be stupid to stops this benefit criminals .
My wife did this with her body count
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Ok boomer
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Hillary clinton called- she wants to know how
This reminds me of the movie Matilda when her father was at the car shop doing this same stuff
It’s been years since I’ve seen that movie!
Thank you!
Throws the sawdust in the transmission "that'll keep her running smooth for a couple of miles"
@@matthewsteinert1002 "Daddy thats cheating"
"Of course it's cheating, nobody ever got rich by being honest"
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But Matilda taught him a lesson
Oh well you get f***** buying a new one and you get f***** buying a used one.
Get a bicycle. Or even better a scooter, less moving parts.
Jeb Garcia Bikes are dangerous since most drivers are distracted or damn near blind on the roads today. Heck, many morons in SUVs barely see me in my Mustang.
Buy off Scotty Kilmer.
@@angelgjr1999 .. My Dad had a Mustang. You have no worries in that car.. They run like the wind. Dad use to race teenagers in their Modified Street Machines. He would back off at about 90 mph. Not bad for someone who was in their 70s. He loved that car.
John Wahan Yeah man I love my car. Has a few mods including gears. I can get to 70 mph in like 5 seconds. It’s fast for an “old” 2003 Mustang GT.
I had to fix it up a bit but that makes a project car fun.
when that mannequin in the drive seat started blinking....freaky
Photo Booth Start Up 😂
D'Juan Poole .. ikr? 😂
Photo Booth Start Up : Dude You Beat me To It I Was About To Say Is That A Mannequin Behind The Reporter, Sitting In The Truck
@@sergioson2001 lmao I was staring at him the whole time
Photo Booth Start Up he’s very white and pasty.
This is one long commercial for carfax.
Carfax is not reliable at all
It is also 70$ it is not free 😂
Chris D what do you mean?
@@TomTheCat. if you get your car serviced at an official repair shop its recorded on carfax. Private shops don't update. Worked for a used car dealer for a while. You would be suprised how many cars had accident damage not on the carfax that was repaired privatly.
Yup. Bring the vehicle to a mechanic you trust.
The dealerships has been doing this for decades. They are the biggest culprits.
D4rt *you’re.
D4rt you’re*
Traded in two cars with new car dealerships this year and both dealers wanted me to leave mileage blank on signed over title. Needless to say I filled in correct mileage on title. I was not going to let them fill in mileage after I left! Don’t let them do that to protect yourself from being sued for odometer fraud!
When you rolled out the dealers your new car automatically devalues like 10 grand now tell me that is not a scam.
it should apply to test driven cars also
Not true, depends on the car
@@mikehawk1673 General rule of thumb is a 20% loss in value (mostly referring to american made cars). For a $30k car that's a $6k loss. GENERALLY it's true. Yes there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule (Toyota, Honda, Lexus etc) but also every new vehicle loses thousands of dollars in value in the first year. That's one reason leasing is becoming more popular. For my 2019 Tacoma I bought 4 months ago for $33k, it's now worth $28k-$30k and it hasn't even been on the road for long.
The immediate depreciation is the PROFIT going to the dealer and the manufacturer.
@Serpentaria No, people are crooks!
I thought the guy on the truck was a mannequin until he blinked his eyes 😂
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when the guy was taking about them working hard lol the guy in the back looked like what ?????????????????? 3:11
I wouldn't trust this shop because of their fake mannequin. They almost fooled us with their fake mannequin.
for real i am like. who the f is behind him, why is there a model. oooo hes alive!
What's up with the bald dude in the truck just awkwardly sitting in there and staring?
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he's rolling the miles back on the truck 🎰
He probably farted and is waiting for it to dissipate out .
Yea thought he was going to talk or show us something but he just awkwardly sat there
I didn't even think he was a real person til he blinked lol.
Dealerships rip people off way more than this ever will
FrEdDiE as someone who details cars at a dealership (I’m in no part connected to the sale of them) I can 100% vouch for this. Stay safe and just Facebook/Craigslist your cars, you’ll save so much more money just taking it to a shop for whatever repairs it needs rather then buying at a dealership
Dealers use these mileage ‘reducers’.
Two words, or one word connected, .... Stealerships!
Womb Raider :^)
I see some ignorance in these comments lol car dealerships are so regulated by the state .. there's not a new car that would take such a chance...lot of these dummies doing this s*** rolling back don't realize that you get about five years in prison for I personally know somebody who did at a old dirt lot .... Everybody should be happy for car they bring a lot of money to your town and convenienceyou might not realize what they do for your town but if every car dealership in your town left you be no town USA ... And furthermore whenever you see people Sue car dealerships 90% of the time they lose because there's an old saying in the car dealership..... Buyers are liars... And it stands so true
Damn, I use the mileage on my vehicles as a testament to how I take care of them (both have over 200k on them now). This is an utterly useless fraud nowadays. I'd rather have a car with a bunch of miles that was well taken care of than a car with less miles that was neglected.
Pft so much effort...they should have just put it in reverse....
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Atlas Reign It doesn’t work that way.
papa Tutti He’s just kidding :)
suckerzezper I know but I just had to say that.
papa Tutti WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
i want someone to look at me like that guy in the truck looks at the car fact guy.
Second that!😂
Same 🤣🤣🤣
Many years ago, my car's speedometer quit working. Then I noticed the odometer wasn't registering either. I drove it for like 5 more years with no miles counted. Finally it got wrecked and ins adjuster said wow, only 70k miles...lol it really had about 150k. True story.
Is anybody going to say anything about how well kept that truck was?
That's what I'm saying 😂😂😂
Truck would bring 8000 around where I live with 230000 people love those here in Missouri
@@shawnreppert1493 I got an 06 with a 123k,I can get like $6k here in California,trucks sound pricey in over there
ed cstl ya people love trucks here and seem to pay a good amount for a good shape older truck yours would be a hot one around here to sale
@@shawnreppert1493 it's good to know,now I have another reason to leave California for a while if I need to
The computer will store the actual mileage in alot of vehicles
Lets format the computer lol.
Yeah the Ecm doesn't store miles. The newer models store oil change history. If your able to gain access to the motherboard of the ecm you can decode the oil change intervals and get a ball park estimate of the miles but not accurate.
@@KyndVybes my 03 gmc does if I take it to a gm garage and they plug it in it will pull it up
@@wallyfronzaglio372 do you do a memory save when you change batteries?
Virtually all OBD compliant ECUs keep track of mileage, it’s part of the standard.
Back in the '60s, Chrysler Corp. game out with a 5/50 warranty. The dealers would roll back miles so the customer would get a warranty.
I'm glad I always drive 20 + year old vehicles that are exempt
A Mercer I think he completely missed the point of this video lol
Ughh okay ? So you're glad that your 20 + year car that you think you bought with 120,000 on the odo, really has 1,200,000.. because it's exempt ? YOu're still getting screwed... and possible more. lol
I had a f250 with a speedometer that didnt always work. When the speedo didnt work neither did the odometer.
That happened to my 1996 Honda Accord, until I replaced the speed sensor. The few hundred miles it didn't register makes little difference when the car has over 300K miles.
Ferrari owners do it, by driving their cars backwards. Lol
chris corona not exactly 🤣 look what happened to Ferris B. ‘s day off
The_Goochie_Bison clearly thats what he was referencing
Imagine screwing over the dealership by changing the odometer, trading it in for higher value, only for them to sell it for 2x the value you put on the odometer, only to now purchase a car for 4x the actual value....vicious cycle.
sounds like what matilda dad did in the movie lmfao
the tools shown and the video shown in the example were completley unrelated, they showed standard scan tools
Of course they would do that.
Obd reader with abs scan haha jokes
I can use my hp tuners speedometer wizard to roll it back .
TFAY first of all, your typo in English didn’t give viewers some assurance for your English level. What is this, “ completley” ?! completely is the correct spelling!
Second is your reading English level. What do you think “ odometer adjustment” actually meaning here? This word actually was shown in BOTH of the items as well, so don’t say “ completely” unrelated because this is one of the relation already.
The odometer doesn’t need any assistance from any machine to change anything because there is no button (except a button to press down for clear out the “ mileage” of driving distance) on the odometer at all. If any machine like this video shown at 1:45 and 1:51, which means using OBD2 related plug, is the way they use it to “ adjust” the odometer, that is automatically illegal and against the law just like the video said already.
Only scan is alright, but if the title of advertisement shows” adjustment” while it is not legal to, well...you guess it. Illegal dude!
You are wrong !
I looked up the OBD 2 tool on eBay that was shown and it does adjust odometer miles !!! See for yourself !!!
Many listed for $200 or less from CHINA !!!
I add miles to my vehicles so no one will steal them
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That mechanic talking is the biggest Crook of them all.
2:40 how is someone supposed to know if their car has an altered odometer? Will the buyer get charged for this crime even though they never knew anything about this? I feel this is a crime that should charge car salesmen wether at a dealership or at a mom and pops small car lots and not the ppl that drive them to work
One thing to keep in mind with Carfax is that it doesn’t always tell the whole story. I once had a hand me down Volvo wagon that was passed through the family since it was 1 year old. I took it to an inspection station when it had 232000 miles and they accidentally transposed the numbers are reported it has having 322000 miles. It was a mess to get it corrected but luckily I had all the service records all the way back to the check my grandfather wrote for the down payment.
This is why I don't like buying used cars, too many surprises!
still good deals though
One time I went to a dealership to look at a van that supposedly had 60,000 miles the seats were worn out the van looked worn out had metal shavings in transmission fluid and carfax disputed the mileage the dealership tried to play it off like the person who sold it to them was in dispute with carfax how can you dispute physical evidence
The manufacturer has a feature that lets you see how many miles it's been since the check engine light was reset. Seems logical the odometer would have the same functionality.
“If your buying from a dealer, contact the previous owner” how is that even possible. Pretty sure it’s impossible...
Its possible and pretty easy quite frankly
Donald Trumpet do tell
Chris R title
Kade Lubensky ok 99% of us are going to need step by step directions
@@hg2blackcat411 Google your vin . Past owner history is easy to get .
What do you do if/when you need to legitimately program the mileage ie: the original gauge cluster fails for whatever reason analog or digital and needs replaced?
Any local shop or online vendor that repairs instrument clusters can legally program the correct mileage on to the cluster, if the repair requires it. Case in point... when I bought my 2004 GMC Yukon years ago, the instrument cluster needed repair and the dealership replaced the complete assembly under warranty, but I was responsible for paying the labor to program it. What this video doesn't make clear is if the people rolling back odometers are also manipulating the vehicle's BCM or ECM as well. I am under the impression that one or both of these modules stores the mileage as well as the cluster. So if you change one but not the others then it is a good way to get caught.
The guy sitting in the truck at 0:43 has no soul
LOL
Who else here went on Amazon looking for the code readers?
marijuanapuffs just happed to me 100000 thousand roleback on my car
Maserati FAM did you do the secondary mileage recorder system?
@@anthonymolina7416 loco yo soy Dominicano tambien. K lo k ✌
Damn folks...miles show up on things like rubber on break pedal. Seat wear. Door jamb scuffs...j could go on and on but just use common sense and look for obvious signs of extreme mileage.
Randy Prevette thanks for the obvious tip that I never thought about
*laughs in Danny devito*
So If i put in a new engine in my truck can I change my odometer and not get in trouble or would I still get in trouble?
No I don't think so check though in your area to avoid any trouble just check
You cannot under any circumstance reset the mileage on a vehicle, period.
If you replace your engine you must then maintain your mileage manually otherwise you are breaking the law.
Or put not actual mileage on pink slip.
💯% illegal
The mileage is supposed to reflect chassis mileage. You can't legally "reset" it for an engine change, but it is legal (at least in my area) to "correct" used parts such as an instrument cluster to display the actual chassis mileage of the vehicle they're being installed into.
is there any device that can they identify if a car has had its meter rolled back digitally?
The computer shows the actual mileage. The display on the gauge cluster is just a display and that’s what they are changing but the computer will have the mileage stored
At some point the ECU computer will refresh the display computer with the real milage.
will be like it we can know what is the real miles
Buy new and drive for 30 years.
Good luck with cars now a days only last until high payments and interest are paid if that
Maybe in the 1990s
Good-luck with those new cars man.
Then sell it to the car dealers and they roll down the odometer for the next buyer.
@Goddess Sky that car is on the lemon list so your lucky it has low km wait till you get to 60.000 miles and every thing will brake if it didn't by then
Just an FYI, these devices are intended to change the mileage if you change the gauge cluster. Many vehicles only store the mileage in the gauge cluster, so if you have to replace the cluster, this tool allows the cluster to show the correct mileage
It’s not always “fraud” Toyota Matrix and vibe can only go to 300k and they have to be reset
I always wandered that cause I seen 2 of them with 299k, and I kept driving it trying to get it to 300 and it never did
There doing this alot in chicago they got me and my brother in law
Anything happened afterwards, or just take the loss. I just got had, didnt know if it was worth fighting.
Cast a Couple unfortunately they got me too.
They got me too but the truck was 300$ still runs fine but it has 300k I suspect. 2000 Silverado 5.3
Not surprised lotta shisters in chi rack live in the subs outside n DNT bother nomore make sure u have s machine with u while buying
Happened to me here in California.. found out 6 months later it was rolled back about 100k, then I sold the car to someone else. It was a Honda so it was an easy sale.
Doesn’t anybody notice how he started to laugh as well as the person in the car when he stated that there are people working to protect customers from this type of fruad
3:14
Yeah I noticed that to.
So here in my state when you buy a vehicle, the title Is presented to DMV, for registration with the sell/ purchased mileage recorded on it...so since the state/government require us for Personal ID info, proof of insurance, personal property taxing,etc., so would it seem logical for DMV, an government ran system could red flag any vehicle when entering the vin# where as the mileage shows a decline since last sell/purchase.Just a thought🤔
No surprise.. Jacksonville has this issue... this town has issues with car prices already.. my last 2 purchases were 150 miles from this city.. there has been a car issue in jax for some time..
Used car lots buy dash clusters from low mileage wrecked vehicles @ junkyards.
Easy Peasy...
I buy mine certified, 2 to 4 years old,with less than 30,000 miles.
Saves me about 10 grand
isn't the milage of a car also kept on some on board computer?? Or is it ONLY in the gauge cluster?
Lucky Goose only in the gauge cluster, at least on chevys.
Gauge cluster for now tragiclly. That's how this scam is done.
Most of them are in the gauge cluster unfortunately. You can even get one from the junkyard and swap it out and they'd never know except for what they said, smog records and stuff
Depends on the car. BMW, for instance, does store the mileage in more than one ECU which makes them more difficult to "roll back." Additionally the chip that stores the mileage in the cluster generally can't be reprogrammed without physical access to the chip itself so it is much more difficult to do than what is shown in this video. It can still be done but requires a significant amount of technical knowledge and to some extent, equipment.
MrPland1992 No all modern vehicles store it on the computer as well
Even if the Silverado had 230,000 miles on it, I would see them going for a high price
Always keep in mind low mileage means soon you will be replacing thousands in repairs on parts that have not been replaced yet!
Mileage?? O don’t worry about that this is one great car just take my word for it 😎
Whats even a bigger fraud then rolling back odometers is cutting tags off of mattresses😲🤣
That's a federal offense. Put you in jail for 3 years at least
Doesnt the MV have record when stickers are purchased ??
0:42 dude was still like a mannequin.
Very realistic!
Have you seen Hopper the Grass Hopper move?
I wish I could do this with my weight!
You could but you need to put more miles on the treadmill 😂
Funny thing is my wife has a 2015 honda accord and her actual miles are 40,389 we bought the car in 2015 with 427 miles on it , thing is if she were to trade it in would this question come up and what steps do they or will they do to prove it
My nephew worked at a Chrysler dealership that actually owed an odometer rollback device, it was his job to roll back to odometer on used cars that didn't have previous records that could be traced back, thus the dealer making bigger profits on some of the used cars being sold. My nephew didn't work there long as he didn't like doing their dirty tricks anymore and he quit after just a few weeks.
so many women have wealth taken from them because of this.... lord ha' mercy
Cant they put stickers on the parts like the xbox 360 days tamper stickers?
I have found that Carfax does not report all accident claims VIN specific, in fact it would be in the governments worst interest to allow insurance companies report to a 3rd party company as these actions would only inform and benefit potential buyers. Inspect your used vehicles thoroughly.
Where can you report someone who does this scam? This happened to my son in the Bentonville Arkansas area.
It is ridiculous how easy it is to changed an odometer. The old mechanical ones were actually really easy to change also. However, they took some time to change. The digital odometers take almost no time to change. They are easier to change than the mechanical. The serial interface is super easy to use with a terminal programme, a smartphone, and a Prolific USB to serial adaptor. I changed my odometer when I changed my instrument panel. I changed it to match the old one.
Happened to me twice. I bought a caddy in Miami and they took over 100K off it. Only found out because the car ended being totalled about two months later. The Insurance company found out. Nobody could find that guy. Another time was a Chevy van in Maryland not far from Baltimore. Both times was from a road side used car business. The one in Maryland came with a carfax. No problems. When I went to sell the car THEN carfax branded it. Yea, big help carfax. They both ran fine and I had no problems with either of them.
Buy from a private seller where you can speak the the person about the car. Negotiate a price and make a calculated decision on what’s best for you.
If something doesn’t add up just keep looking.
Can get in trouble for owning one with a roll back. So you buy one and don't know then sell it and end up in jail. Sounds like a law made in California
When I was a teenager my mom had an 03 Avalanche with 200k and the gauge cluster crapped out so I bought a used on online and and when I hooked it up all the gauges worked but the truck now only had 80k... my mother traded in the vehicle shortly after and we told the dealer the miles were inaccurate but it would have been easy to pass it off private party because the truck was garage kept and in immaculate condition
I know a dealer in my area that does this often. He sells his cars cheap though. I bought a car from a private party recently it said 134k miles but looking at the csr and from experience i knew it was over 200k. Then when i saw the title the dealer was the same guy i just talked about who basically rolls back most of the odometers of the cars he sells. I bought the car anyways cuz the engine and trans were great and it was a Toyota. I later checked the carfax and it said 260k miles LOL. Like come on man i dont mind if you roll it back like around 50k miles but 130k miles roll back is just too much .
I bet it still last another 100k easily had bought one with 462k on it and drove perfect
@@mitchellwilliams4242 yeah i am sure it would . If its maintained well these things can last forever. I have a toyota fj ceuiser with over 270k still runs like new.
You can look at the interior and tell if it’s been driven a lot. Look underneath around the oil pan and transmission. Low mileage cars shouldn’t have gunk build up
How would one know if the car have odometer roll back?
Check service history. Any high mile car should have a service history. If there is no service history you probably dont want to buy it regardless of mileage.
They used to do it with a drill. Now I guess they use an OBD scanner?
I baught a new car and rolled the odometer back to a -50,000 miles.I sold it back to the dealer for more than I paid for it.
My '98 Suburban got rolled back about 90,000 miles, but I didn't find out until after the fact when I did a carfax report.
I only paid $900 for the truck, so I wasn't too worried (also the person I bought it from wasn't responsible).
It's currently sitting at 309,000 miles on the original engine and still running strong.
Our cars have over 250k on them, and I look at them as troopers, survivors, I wouldn't ever want the mileage reduced
In Ontario Canada we have to buy a vehicle registration with the car tells you the miles every time the car is sold right from new.
My Grandad used to make my dad turn back mileage on cars he was selling when he was a teenager and to tell you how long it's been going on my dad was 70 when he passed away in 2016
So the 1997 Chevy truck I bought with 25k original miles could be 250k?
What can I do to get justice? That’s the real question what can we do? Who do we call because that just happened to me and they gave me the title two weeks after saying auto meter not correct but they didn’t tell me any of that when I bought it they completely scammed me, so what do we do?
Buying brand new car, they rolled back odometer , sell the cars more money and the government getting more taxes on that extra money,,why government try to stops this crime ,,that would be stupid
Is it legal to rollback an odo if you roll it right back to the real value?
Some OBD scanners can read both Odometer mileage and total distance driven stored in ECU and if they differ there's a problem. However ECU can be altered as well 🤷🏽♂️
This is disgusting. Then they proceed to tell you how to do it.
You can only change it on speedo the milage and vin is burned into the ecu and body computer and cant be changed
Watch the old movie USED CARS. The movie begins with the main character rewinding the odometer. 😆
That was a hilarious Movie!
Dealers won't give previous owner information
They are not allowed to, if they did and they were caught doing so the dealership could get in serious legal/financial troubles as such would be breaking privacy laws.
Theres a app were you type in your vin and it shows you alot of info on the vehicle i cant remember what its called
Check the rubber pad on the brake pedal, if the car is supposed to have low mileage but that rubber is heavily worn something’s up.
Tbf that is more a indication of heavy/hard breaking. People who tend to speed or are just horrible drivers in general tend to use the brakes allot.
Check the carpet near gas pedal. There is no way to fix that unless you replace the carpet which will be a glaring red flag.
That said, my father has a 2003 Yukon with 190000 miles and it almost looks new.
@@twoeightythreez That does not prove anything either. I buy new cars every 4years and I always put extra carpets on my floor board. My carpets always looked brand new when I traded it in. My steering wheel and seats get extra covers. Go figure.
I didn't know you could roll back a odometer. Did they use the Ferris Bueller method?🤔😀😂
My cousins did this once and I don’t think they’ve ever done it again. They resell countless cars
@0:56 Dude in the truck star struck or stage fright🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
there's equipment that can check if the odometer was rolled back, it's useless doing this and if found it will result in a fine
I saw the comments before I watched the video. Daaamn you people are funny. I busted out laughing when the guy in the truck😳 popped up on screen!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know some cars store the actual mileage in multiple computers in the car.
Just drive the car in reverse should lower the miles in no time.
We get a free car if odometer is messed with. That's what the odometer statement is for. It protects us. Plus we get a free car out of it
Matilda's dad was ahead of the game
Great report deserves millions of views make one on craigslist scams
I bought a car 2 years ago for $7,000, to later find out that the odometer was rolled back almost 100k miles. I contacted the guy that sold me the car and told him that if he didn’t buy the car back from me for MORE than what I bought it for, then I was going to report him to the police and that he’d face jail time. He ended up buying it back from me for $9,000. 🤣
what about if u have an engine swap? with less miles
Miles on the car are not for the engine only. Transmission, suspension, seats.. etc. Just because you changed the engine doesn't mean you have to adjust the miles for the new engine.
This doesn’t work in New York every year you must do an emissions inspection and your odometer reading has to be inputted after they scan your registration can get around
Sad part is I've had this done to me someone just swapped out the whole gauge cluster literally had evidence of everything that was done to the car i bought it off a scum bag. I ended up going to police and all they said the vehicle was older than 10 years we cant do anything about it.
Contact the Dept of Motor Vehicles. They have a fraud dept. that would love to hear from you.
Yeah that’s the sad part. Many police departments don’t care about citizens getting ripped off. They’ll do 100 mph just to catch up to you and give a speeding ticket though. Pigs.
This is easy in places like Florida because they dont have annual or safety inspections where they record mileage.
Never heard Anyone go to prison for this crime, looks like is win win situation 8000 pays more tax than 3000.,, would be stupid to stops this benefit criminals .
How do I do this