In this video the best fog performance comes from the low beams. For dust, snow,fog the fog lights should be the lowest mounted light and they need a sharp horizontal cut off. For rally some of use to use LOW mounted pencil beams aimed right down the ditches because since usually other cars have gone down the road first it can be VERY dusty. A unique application. Hood mounted lights should only be long throw lights or else you get uncontrolled light bouncing off the hood and spilling into the particulate matter.
Running a clear lens with a yellow filter IS NOT the same. A true yellow lens is much brighter. ( Also your filter will freeze is snow and block the light output) I tried doing the same setup but wound up swapping later to a true yellow lens and it's MUCH better
@@getstuk87 the clear is a 6000k led with a yellow cover that's gives off warm but not yellow tone, a true " amber" is a 3000-4000k with a yellow lens that gives more of a GOLDEN yellow that work better is snow, fog, rain. I've owned both from D.D. and I'll choose a true yellow/golden setup hands down
@@SargeGhost putting a yellow lens on a white will give it a hyper yellow/ green tint . Go yellow /amber and buy a clear lens they use different led chips and it will be a warm yellow and warmer clear
Fog lights aren’t effective whatsoever if they’re mounted on your pillar. Fog lights are meant to be as low as possible on your car to get closer to the road otherwise your just throwing more light into the fog thus blinding you even further
I like the effort here. But to make a real comparison you’d have to test the SS3’s that are ordered with the Yellow (selective yellow) lens vs a set ordered with the clear lens. Trust me, there is a BIG performance difference between the actual SS3 selective yellow and the lens cover. The SS3 Sport and Pro when ordered with Yellow lenses used a 4000k LED while the clear lens options use a 6000k LED. The yellow lens actually filters the UV wavelengths out of the 4000k, but if you try it on the 6000k version it will look greenish. The SS3 Max uses a darker filtered lens that will filter the 6000k LED and is not available with a 4000k LED since there isn’t one on the market.
Good effort in demo’g the differences. I agree, I think your mounting location had a lot to do with the results. I think if you installed the amber lens on a light on the bumper or forward of your hood, it would make a difference. I think the hood HIGHLY affects the results of your light output and effectiveness. Again, thanks for the video and trying.
To "cut through" the fog, you cannot shine light directly at eye level. The water droplets will act like reflectors back to you reducing visibility. You have to shine light at the ground which then reflect up at the water droplets. This greatly reduces light reflection from the fog back to your eye. Amber or white doesn't matter much.
I would like to see the difference in tule fog. Here in California the fog gets so dense that you can’t see the lines on the road. Visibility is so bad you have to roll down the window to see, even with the wipers on visibility is 10 to 20 ft at best. I would also like to see the difference in a good snow fall. I live in the mountains, and when it starts snowing, visibility isn’t very good to put it mildly.
I'm in the Central Valley and I chuckled when he mentioned "heavy fog". Those days are when I load up the dirt bike and drive up to a nice sunny day of riding.
I've always ran a set of Amber's down low in the fog light position. I found that the amber cuts through heavy fog and snow ... I definitely don't suggest running them up high in the ditch light location .
That's exactly the problem with LED light. Halogen bulps have a almost inexistent blue part in their spectrum and has its peak far in the infra red that means visible halogen light starts to get useable in the yellow and peaks in red so a yellow lense can filter out all the blue light that is left and lets all the yellow and red light trough and therefore almost eliminate glare. White LEDs have a hughe spike at blue and about half the level from green to about amber and steeply drop in red so if you put a yellow lense on your LED lights, this blue spike simply overwhelms the yellow filter and a good portion still gets throug so you still have those unfavourable wavelenghts in your light. In order to make LEDs truly amber, you would have to filter out about 50 to 60% of the light which really isn't great at all. You then would probably be better of with a flashlight. So if you really have to drive in heavy fog all night long, you're better off with searching for some nice halogen lights for your roof and put an amber lense over them or equip them with yellow halogen bulps, if you can find some.
Two really great comparison videos you made while staying focused on the road. So glad I watched before jumping the gun on the Ambers. I see what you mean by the white light. Definitely looks like you can see more as a whole and less annoying to oncoming traffic vs the bright ambers.
You really can't do a comparison of color with one color in the ditch lights. Fog lights are meant to be low for a reason, any color in your ditch lights in the fog are going to perform horribly. Amber in your fogs would have looked a lot different in comparison.
Should ditch them out there actually SAE fogs where fogs go I have the pro ones are are awesome I have the yellow lens and clear covers love mine so much wish I got the max ones
Pretty awful to be honest. Just your low beams on was the best to my eyes. Maybe if you mount these in an actual fog light position, down low, they'd work better. Kinda of odd to use "fog lights" and mount them in the ditch light position. Too high.
yellow is better for off road then on road, Yellow will show the terrain contours and potholes better than a white light. I agree white seems to look better for most on road driving with SAE fog lights.
And those amber yellow covers or whatever they are called only reduces the energy of the light intensity which makes the focused and penetration weaker than if you would just buy the actual amber Light emitting diode replacement they sell online!!!! Common sense people!
Also those Hood lights are supposed to be a supplemental lighting and Not your main dust, snow, fog and rain lights at all period! Supplemental lighting people!!!
It's called a led chip. Light emitting diodes that come in many forms and intensity for those who don't know. They also have led optics which in my eyes should be illegal because they have a direct magnified light intensity and focus like a magnified glass and can cause harm to the eyes and possibly a car accident/death!
Bro those light would be better if you had them lower maybe where the original fog lights should of been, umm closer to the ground maybe perhaps. As a plant grower we go by PAR which is photo synthetic radiation!, the closer the light to the plant the more spotlight you get wich we call a light intensity focus on what you are trying to achieve and its called LIGHT PENETRATION AND FOCUS! Your lights are not in the right place for the actual proof of anything in this comparison! Those lights are way higher than where the should be my man. Thise lights on the hood are not as efficient as people think. Keep them closer to the ground with high intensity and focus and im sure u will get your results. Shit bro get a PAR meater!
Not sure why you think my setup looks terrible? You do realize it’s not setup for inclement weather, and the video was primarily for showing the glare of clear vs amber?
I think what he means is you have your ditch lights pointed inward towards your hood and so you're getting bounce back from your ditch lights. If you point your ditch lights outward away from your hood you may get better results. Thanks for the video.
OmG an actual light test with real foggy road & not using he's garage door!!
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In this video the best fog performance comes from the low beams. For dust, snow,fog the fog lights should be the lowest mounted light and they need a sharp horizontal cut off. For rally some of use to use LOW mounted pencil beams aimed right down the ditches because since usually other cars have gone down the road first it can be VERY dusty. A unique application. Hood mounted lights should only be long throw lights or else you get uncontrolled light bouncing off the hood and spilling into the particulate matter.
Running a clear lens with a yellow filter IS NOT the same. A true yellow lens is much brighter. ( Also your filter will freeze is snow and block the light output) I tried doing the same setup but wound up swapping later to a true yellow lens and it's MUCH better
I'm not so convinced a yellow filter is any different than a plastic lens with some color in it. They're both colored in a similar way.
then your a fool@@getstuk87
So you recommend just getting the yellow lense? Is the yellow lense still good for off roading in the dark?
@@getstuk87 the clear is a 6000k led with a yellow cover that's gives off warm but not yellow tone, a true " amber" is a 3000-4000k with a yellow lens that gives more of a GOLDEN yellow that work better is snow, fog, rain. I've owned both from D.D. and I'll choose a true yellow/golden setup hands down
@@SargeGhost putting a yellow lens on a white will give it a hyper yellow/ green tint . Go yellow /amber and buy a clear lens they use different led chips and it will be a warm yellow and warmer clear
Fog lights aren’t effective whatsoever if they’re mounted on your pillar. Fog lights are meant to be as low as possible on your car to get closer to the road otherwise your just throwing more light into the fog thus blinding you even further
I like the effort here. But to make a real comparison you’d have to test the SS3’s that are ordered with the Yellow (selective yellow) lens vs a set ordered with the clear lens. Trust me, there is a BIG performance difference between the actual SS3 selective yellow and the lens cover. The SS3 Sport and Pro when ordered with Yellow lenses used a 4000k LED while the clear lens options use a 6000k LED. The yellow lens actually filters the UV wavelengths out of the 4000k, but if you try it on the 6000k version it will look greenish. The SS3 Max uses a darker filtered lens that will filter the 6000k LED and is not available with a 4000k LED since there isn’t one on the market.
Good effort in demo’g the differences. I agree, I think your mounting location had a lot to do with the results. I think if you installed the amber lens on a light on the bumper or forward of your hood, it would make a difference. I think the hood HIGHLY affects the results of your light output and effectiveness. Again, thanks for the video and trying.
Tbh it looks much best with just the low beams and nothing else. 😅 thanks for the video tho much appreciated
To "cut through" the fog, you cannot shine light directly at eye level. The water droplets will act like reflectors back to you reducing visibility.
You have to shine light at the ground which then reflect up at the water droplets. This greatly reduces light reflection from the fog back to your eye. Amber or white doesn't matter much.
That was the whole point, that amber vs white isn’t really important, it’s more the positioning.
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Nice video. Thank you for the 4K video
I would like to see the difference in tule fog. Here in California the fog gets so dense that you can’t see the lines on the road. Visibility is so bad you have to roll down the window to see, even with the wipers on visibility is 10 to 20 ft at best. I would also like to see the difference in a good snow fall. I live in the mountains, and when it starts snowing, visibility isn’t very good to put it mildly.
I'm in the Central Valley and I chuckled when he mentioned "heavy fog".
Those days are when I load up the dirt bike and drive up to a nice sunny day of riding.
I've always ran a set of Amber's down low in the fog light position. I found that the amber cuts through heavy fog and snow ... I definitely don't suggest running them up high in the ditch light location .
As stated in the video, I said position matters more than color. Thanks for watching.
Very bright! I recognize those roads 😂
Nice! My cover arrives this Friday
That's exactly the problem with LED light. Halogen bulps have a almost inexistent blue part in their spectrum and has its peak far in the infra red that means visible halogen light starts to get useable in the yellow and peaks in red so a yellow lense can filter out all the blue light that is left and lets all the yellow and red light trough and therefore almost eliminate glare. White LEDs have a hughe spike at blue and about half the level from green to about amber and steeply drop in red so if you put a yellow lense on your LED lights, this blue spike simply overwhelms the yellow filter and a good portion still gets throug so you still have those unfavourable wavelenghts in your light. In order to make LEDs truly amber, you would have to filter out about 50 to 60% of the light which really isn't great at all. You then would probably be better of with a flashlight.
So if you really have to drive in heavy fog all night long, you're better off with searching for some nice halogen lights for your roof and put an amber lense over them or equip them with yellow halogen bulps, if you can find some.
I would've liked to see with just the Diode Dynamics w/o any lights. The glare you're seeing may still be coming from your headlights.
I’ll keep that in mind for the next video!
Two really great comparison videos you made while staying focused on the road. So glad I watched before jumping the gun on the Ambers. I see what you mean by the white light. Definitely looks like you can see more as a whole and less annoying to oncoming traffic vs the bright ambers.
Thank you! Glad it helped :)
yellow light is less likely to refract so the amber fogs are better
Thanks for the video comparison! Can you do a video comparison of just the yellow lenses on without white light ?
That would be difficult to do as you will always have white light from the headlights.
You really can't do a comparison of color with one color in the ditch lights. Fog lights are meant to be low for a reason, any color in your ditch lights in the fog are going to perform horribly. Amber in your fogs would have looked a lot different in comparison.
Ditch lights are also available in amber.
Should ditch them out there actually SAE fogs where fogs go I have the pro ones are are awesome I have the yellow lens and clear covers love mine so much wish I got the max ones
I don't think you have a clue what heavy fog is , that's not evening the same realm.
Pretty awful to be honest. Just your low beams on was the best to my eyes. Maybe if you mount these in an actual fog light position, down low, they'd work better. Kinda of odd to use "fog lights" and mount them in the ditch light position. Too high.
yellow is better for off road then on road, Yellow will show the terrain contours and potholes better than a white light. I agree white seems to look better for most on road driving with SAE fog lights.
Appreciate your insight!
the amber is definitely better
And those amber yellow covers or whatever they are called only reduces the energy of the light intensity which makes the focused and penetration weaker than if you would just buy the actual amber Light emitting diode replacement they sell online!!!!
Common sense people!
Also those Hood lights are supposed to be a supplemental lighting and Not your main dust, snow, fog and rain lights at all period!
Supplemental lighting people!!!
It's called a led chip.
Light emitting diodes that come in many forms and intensity for those who don't know.
They also have led optics which in my eyes should be illegal because they have a direct magnified light intensity and focus like a magnified glass and can cause harm to the eyes and possibly a car accident/death!
Well they are sold by Diode Dynamics so…
Bro those light would be better if you had them lower maybe where the original fog lights should of been, umm closer to the ground maybe perhaps.
As a plant grower we go by PAR which is photo synthetic radiation!, the closer the light to the plant the more spotlight you get wich we call a light intensity focus on what you are trying to achieve and its called LIGHT PENETRATION AND FOCUS!
Your lights are not in the right place for the actual proof of anything in this comparison!
Those lights are way higher than where the should be my man.
Thise lights on the hood are not as efficient as people think.
Keep them closer to the ground with high intensity and focus and im sure u will get your results.
Shit bro get a PAR meater!
Thanks for the video; but your setup looks terrible. Thumbs up.
Not sure why you think my setup looks terrible? You do realize it’s not setup for inclement weather, and the video was primarily for showing the glare of clear vs amber?
I think what he means is you have your ditch lights pointed inward towards your hood and so you're getting bounce back from your ditch lights. If you point your ditch lights outward away from your hood you may get better results. Thanks for the video.
@@joelesparza8812 Appreciate the input! They are angled outward, but I’ll try moving them a bit more. Always looking to maximize available lighting!
I am in San Francisco California Fog 🌫️