Arthur Hyman - What is Immortality?
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What would it be like to live forever? Immortality is the promise of most religions, thwarting the looming fateful finality of death. Everything in science screams ‘Impossible!’ Even the universe will not last forever. How then to understand immortality? Are the only arguments philosophical as well as theological? Could there be a chance?
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Arthur Hyman was a Professor of Philosophy at Yeshiva University. He was Dean of the Bernard Revel Graduate School and also taught at the Jewish Theological Seminary, Yale University, Columbia University, and Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
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True immortality is being remembered throughout history.
Living forever would be a nightmare
Exactly. Even eternal bliss (Heaven) would eventually become excruciatingly boring. And how would you grow yknow
Reincarnation?@@SamoaVsEverybody814
@@SamoaVsEverybody814 I think you're imagining being in a heaven the way you are now. It's more realistic to believe that if there was a heaven it'd be beyond your comprehension. Maybe the feeling of boredom doesn't exist?
@@abeahmed2581 The feeling of boredom not existing is either 1. Illogical, or 2. If possible it takes away our natural human ability to feel bored, and I don't wanna be a robot
Not really. Living forever sounds awesome, almost perfect.
Anyone hearing this interview will soon need to consult a psychologist.
I recommend Dr. Fraud. 😮
Lol why?
@@sprightlyrandom1550 Even in 21st century people are talking about resurrection.
@@sprightlyrandom1550 religion means hallucination.😮
@@sprightlyrandom1550 Fairy tales can make you nutty, that's why.
Its fascinating hearing a theologen speak on religion from a scientic perspective like this.. not all that dissimilar to how my mother would describe the easter bunny to me when i was a child.
Was there any scientific support or just references to other theological writings. I wrote an expanded comment to Robert on this notion of immortality and an afterlife above if you would like to comment.
Strait talk , strait answers on a very complex topic . . . without invoking the quantum or multiverse . Thank God
Fairy talk.
Abracadabra!
Straight talk?? I wrote a longer comment above on the fictional nature of religious teachings and a few examples of where it leads if you would like to comment.
the consciousness is going through cycles of birth and death continuously . it is passing through temporary human experiences and learning the lessons of love on planet earth .Thus the consciousness is evolving towards immortality till it realize pure love and compassion.
Are you sure of that!
What exactly is the point ?
So, you never die.
I would consider that to be a curse.
Like they say...it will be great for the first trillions, trillion years. Well unless you are brain dead.
His version of "an idealized world to come" sounds very much like simulated existence.
What’s that noise at 7:25?
Aldous Huxley said immortality is "participation in the eternal now". Because really - past/future are invented by brains as a tool for interpreting the world in terms of objects & events. But _really_ there is no past or future, it's just always right now and it keeps happening everywhere. Even in our limited toolkit we can explore the bounds, and see that space and time are relative - there is no absolute sequence of events, it depends on what you're nearer too, how fast you're moving, how big you are, etc. Immortality doesn't need to be a magical concept, it's just existence (maybe even experience) beneath, beyond, or outside of spacetime - I like Huxley's "eternal now". Most of the energy in the universe is probably "immortal" - mortality is probably the more interesting thing that only rarely develops.
How do human beings experience being immortal in a realm without space and time? If they don't experience it, (experience happens only in time) and just are, is that not like existence as a stone or a rock, in other words, not alive, but dead, so what becomes of immortality if we can't experience the bliss that Christianity or Judaism promises. A form of existence that can't experience its own being is not anything I equate with the promise of eternal life. .
@@dickwagenaar3684 I can imagine a situation where concepts like space and time are effectively meaningless - to an advanced being that conquered death millions of years ago, who can travel anywhere or even co-locate and be in many places at once due to their technology, is not limited by matter and mass, and doesn't really "live" in this physical space anymore like we do. Such an entity's experience would be fully abstracted from reality and unrelated to "things in time", and it got there using the same mechanisms we use to create symbols, language, culture, just to a much higher degree. To an experiencer "in time" like ourselves, such an entity might not even appear intelligent or alive, or may not be able to be detected by us. But I don't think experience becomes impossible without our specific spacetime orientation, limited lifespan and attention span, and so-on. Among emotion, intelligence, perception, etc. it seems that what baseline experience is "of" is already a symbol - already an abstraction. We experience "red" the color or a thing that's red, not the 700nm wavelength or anything happening in neurons, the experience is already abstracted, we already live in The Matrix so-to-speak, advanced technology will simply deliver more of that - seemingly impossible scenarios.
You can imagine anything or any entity you like, but it may not be real or true. It's just science-fiction type speculation about possible realities, not the one discovered so far by experience and science. .
@@dickwagenaar3684 You missed the point entirely. These concepts are philosophical mainstays for a reason. I disagree that just because we can project into an inevitable future that means it's impossible or fiction - it can also be a quite obvious eventuality and people accurately predict things all the time. Even what we think we already know is often wrong, "discovered by science" is still subject to the same speculation, if it's actually scientific
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Why would a being that is eternal, as well as beyond space and time, need to harvest human minds ?
It would be like us collecting bacteria for our private collection. So the whole idea seems ridiculous.
8:24 - "The main doctrine is it's an individual immortality because people get judged on what they do and they will be rewarded [...] or punished [...] individuality will be preserved."
Fascinating topic. I like the approach of the eastern religions better, because they don't require a "judge". You "judge" yourself, & you reincarnate into the context that matches what you've become. *They* call it "karma", I call it culture - there are some pretty hellish examples on our own mundane little plot of the solar system - heavenly ones, not so much.
All the old religions could do with some updating with new science. The way I see it, the nonlocality of self is the vehicle for reincarnating across the cosmos, no soul req'd.
Self = Soul
A good interview gentleman thank you! My view point; My / Our present understanding of God, and immortality is but a fragment of what is and what is to come. If, there is a personal unique existence beyond the physical existence, (and I believe there is), then and only then will we have or receive this all encompassing knowledge. Proof of a spiritual realm or existence has not yet reached our capacity to understand. I Want there to be a GOD. I BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD. Therefore without proof it is but a matter of Faith! I believe in the goodness of God and man and the evil of mankind!
I wrote a longer comment above on the fictional nature of and motivation behind religious teachings and a few examples of where it leads if you would like to comment.
Immortality is what You Can't See,
but Can Only by Known,
Your Self, You say I,
the body You see in mirror,
is Not older than 1½ year.
With which species does the soul start inhabiting? One cell organisms, worms, insects, fish, mammals, ancient ancestors of humans or just humans? If just humans, why ?
Good point re Soul arrival / insertion. I wrote a longer comment above with a few other examples of the human-centric point of view if you would like to comment.
@@datamatters8 I don't see your comment. Where is it?
@@ingenuity296 I posted it about an hour ago. i just looked. it's still there.
@@datamatters8 Found it.
have spiritual / religion do diplomacy between nations?
If there is no bad, there can be no good
Seems like it. Although the good is not dependent on anything, the notion of bad is but a condition. They teach that matter is necessitatively evil only because it lacks the good - as a shadow is dark only because it lacks the light. This realm we currently reside in is the shadow realm.
What is evil? Has it being? What are the principles of evil? What is the essence of evil? What is the energy of evil? From when has evil come?
There can be good without having bad.
God stated-"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
Therefore, I say unto you-because, daily, you live in fear of "good" and "evil" and believe and expect these more than you believe that God is abundant LIFE and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE within you, supplying you with all things necessary for health and well-being, it is your most feared "good" and "evil" experiences you attract into your life and body. Your beliefs in "good" and "evil" obscure-CLOUD OVER-all that God has in store for you if only you will believe in UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!
You judge your todays and expect of your tomorrows what you have experienced in the past. Therefore, are the ills of your yesterdays continually repeated in the future.
You are enslaved by your memories and your undeviating beliefs that what was past must return again and again to burden and wound you.
You do not need to heal your body or try to make your life better, you need to heal your beliefs!
Christ has told us there is nothing solid under the sun.
So if you can heal your beliefs, bring your beliefs into line with God's true Intention for you, the wrong beliefs governing your body and life, will dissolve like mist in the sun.
Your every circumstance will immediately come back to the Divine Intention behind all creation.
You will find that for every difficulty, for every lack of every kind, there is always a means to end the difficulty-there is always a filling of your basket to meet your need.
What did you think happened when the sick came to Christ and he laid his hands upon them?
Was Christ thinking about the illness? Was Christ wondering if the person will be healed? Was Christ afraid God may be sleeping or is so far away he cannot be heard?
No! If these were Jesus' disbelieving thoughts, there will be no healing.
When a person approached Christ for healing, he immediately rejoiced because Christ knew that the Power which is God active within him, is ready and waiting to heal the moment he ask. Christ gave thanks because he knew that God's is health, not sickness. Therefore, Christ prayed that God's Will be done in the sick person. As Christ removed the beliefs in sickness from the sick person's body and KNEW that God's Will of health is flowing into his system, so does the appearance-the appearance-of sickness change into the reality of Health and the body is made whole once more.
Sickness is nothing more than a lowering of vitality-a reduction of LIFE-within the affected part. Restore Life to the true Intention and Plan of your system and the entire system functions as it should.
You have been told that God sends sicknesses, plagues, famines, destruction to nations when they do not keep his laws and that you yourself are punished by an angry God for sins you have committed. What is punishment but evil-doing under the guise of goodness? Therefore, I say unto you-evil does not come from God. How can God be of two parts-good and evil?
It is only in your mind that you conceive good and evil, only in your heart do you think and feel it. These thoughts and feelings have nothing to do with God, which is active within you, bringing you every good thing if you will but believe this is so.
It is your beliefs in good and evil, and the good and evil in your heart-which brings you sicknesses.
In reality, we live within the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Kingdom of Heaven is within us, and we are governed by God, but because you believe in the punishments from God, or believe that a blood sacrifice saved you, or believe that you are heir to sickness, poverty, misery-or all the above-you create with your mind, the very things you do not want.
Be not downcasted-rejoice and be glad and know that those who experience lack, far from being "punished" and "abandoned" by God, even though they have "sinned," are truly blessed.
Robert -- You didn't ask if Mr. Hyman believes in this story of resurrection and immortality? And if so WHY does he believe this? I have long thought that the capacity of humans to create fictional worlds and experiences is boundless. See the fiction section of any library. There is tremendous appetite for fiction as entertainment and to explore dilemmas. How are the concepts of life after death and a resurrection, etc. any different from any other human created fiction? J. K. Rowling and Isaac Asimov are just two examples of creators of fictional worlds. How are these religious texts any different regarding their fictional content?
It is not hard to see how the gatekeepers and promoters of religious stories involving supernatural events and philosophy gain a benefit by promoting these beliefs and stories; control and status being just two (consider the example of the Catholic church and Galileo). It is also not hard to see how people who adhere to these beliefs also gain in the emotional comfort they get believing they will see their dead loved ones in an afterlife or their suffering in this world will be rewarded in an afterlife. Then there are adherents of religious beliefs who see them as some sort of absolute truth and want to impose their beliefs on others to the extreme of wanting to kill any apostate. This makes religious believers quite different and in some cases dangerous as opposed to a fan of Harry Potter stories.
Given the fossil evidence of dinosaurs and the 150 millions years during which they roamed the planet why would a supernatural being who presumably brought them into existence not protect them from destruction by a simple meteor impact? Why would a supernatural being create an Earth covered in 70% by salt water? Why would a supernatural being create organisms who preyed on each other? Would an engineer who created a fleet of robots to do useful work want them to prey on each other? The prime directive of autonomous vehicles is to not have them crash into anything.
Robert, do you really think you are getting "closer to the truth" by not challenging these religious leaders?
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*"There is tremendous appetite for fiction as entertainment and to explore dilemmas. How are the concepts of life after death and a resurrection, etc. any different from any other human created fiction?"*
... Religious texts are written to establish a set of morals, values and to keep believers on the same page. Much of this is based on an inward perception of the outside world. Most fictional stories are derivatives of what has already been penned within religious texts.
*"How are these religious texts any different regarding their fictional content? "*
... You have the cart before the horse (see above). "Star Wars" had "The Force" which illustrated a clear distinction between good and evil (Darth Vader / Luke Skywalker). Most movies and books capitalize on the struggle between good and evil. All of your Marvel characters are merely updated versions of Roman Gods, and we eat it up like candy. However, all of these stories and movies are derived from preexisting religious texts and modern-day entertainers and writers depend on them for their subject matter.
*"It is not hard to see how the gatekeepers and promoters of religious stories involving supernatural events and philosophy gain a benefit by promoting these beliefs and stories; control and status being just two (consider the example of the Catholic church and Galileo). "*
... There is motivation behind all propositions. Same applies to atheism. Atheists seek to establish intellectual superiority (control) over theists, and that's why they constantly challenge their beliefs. Atheism has an organized member base, websites, support groups, and a unified ideological position. That being the case, what makes atheism any different than a religion?
*"It is also not hard to see how people who adhere to these beliefs also gain in the emotional comfort they get believing they will see their dead loved ones in an afterlife or their suffering in this world will be rewarded in an afterlife."*
... Science and atheism offer no answers to what happens to the "self" after we die, so why should any believer in God agree to change their spiritual beliefs? I do not believe in any god(s), but the proposition that a self-aware consciousness can subjectively experience "Existence" through a lifetime of evolutionary experiences only to have it all stripped away (like they never existed at all) after they die is an *illogical proposition.* With a universe unarguably scripted in logic (mathematics), atheists would have to explain why the universe suddenly elected to become "illogical" after generating self-aware lifeforms.
*Question for you:* "Existence" is the set of all things that exist, and the "Nonexistence Set" is the antithesis of the "Existence Set." Therefore, everything that exists would logically belong to the "Existence Set" and anything that comes into existence in the future would also belong to this set. On the flip side, whatever is impossible to exist (square-circles, limited-infinity, married-bachelors, etc.) would logically belong to the "Nonexistence Set."
With "Existence" being diametrically opposed to Nonexistence, wouldn't it be *illogical* for the "Existence Set" to move any of its set members over to the "Nonexistence Set?" What does "Existence" have to gain by doing so since "Nonexistence" is its direct opposite?
“JK Rowling and Isaac Asimov are just two examples of creators of fictional worlds”? Did you write this essay for your sixth grade English teacher dude?
God is LOVE-pure UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! Therefore, immortality is the opposite of LOVE-pure UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
Immortality depends on the space it exists in
historically, the essence/soul/consciousness/information has been thought of as being immortal by many... so, how did all the information started or was it always the same, immortal 🤔
Eternal and unchanging. No beginning no end. Only the eternal now.
@@michaelstacey5298we experience change all the time... all physical matter seems to follow certain patterns regardless of what we think of it...
@@r2c3 haha. Rookie mistake but yes you're correct on a superficial level. We do observe physical things changing. In that sense I would go all the way to the other end of the scale as Buddhism points out ... Everything is changing. Ceaselessly. Change is the only So now comes the hard part which is to realize that the physical world is not the ultimate truth. Only a relative truth. Relative things change. Ultimate truth is unchanging. The tide may rise and fall. Waves will form and break. But the ocean is never not the ocean
@@r2c3mr. can I have a wack at the pinata?
the ancients used the metaphor of the wheel - back then the axel didn't turn, but the wheel did. And the wheel, because of the spokes, rested on the axel, that which allows motion but remains always unmoved.
And simple physics knows an effect is not its own cause; nor an attribute its own principle. Therefore, 'there can be no other way', that the principles and cause does transcend the temporal & spatial, time and space, mass & magnitude, and these universals, are what governs such things.
The transcendental, I think is easily grasped, if acknowledged as some thing our sense perceptions cannot detect, however, the intellect and Reason can.
@@michaelstacey5298 existence beyond the physical or objective reality is not easily provable... the furthest I go is their coexistence...
The self in the afterlife eventually dissolves into Oneness. There is no separation. There is no Robert Lawrence Kuhn. There is no Arthur Hyman. Ultimately, there is only Oneness, pretending.
What evidence is there for this resurrection from the dead?
I wrote a longer comment above on the fictional nature of and motivation behind religious teachings and a few examples of where it leads if you would like to comment.
@@datamatters8 thanks for the offer. But I'm asking for any evidence For not against.
You know there's never been any evidence of resurrection, and that it's a faith based claim. So why ask?
Immortal life,could mean infinite life with infinite possibilities in infinite worlds
How though? Like what current natural processes lead you to that conclusion? Simply having the ability to conceive of something does not automatically make it a possibility.
Will there be bowling? Both big balls and smaller balls?
Yes, how else are you going to get thunder.
@@tonyscalise4462 I’m not going to ask about rain.
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). . .... The Path that Leads to Truth is Littered with the Bodies of IGNORANT
How is anything individual if the average person is programmed at birth to carry a false consciousness aka interference by way of ill culture and tradition that is practiced throughout its life everywhere it goes? And I wonder why people expect someone beyond this realm to create heaven for them when they're capable of creating it themselves here.
As long as you get old, infirm, maybe sick and then die, there is nothing you can do to create a different result. There can be no idealized state.
No disrespect intended to the gentleman. But as a non-practicing Jew who honors his heritage, I find it difficult to fathom that an intelligent person could believe such stuff.
And if you born in a different country you may not no anything about this practice
😂
The body will be resurrected: Which age the body will be when it will be resurrected
The soul will be put back: at which age the soul will be at
Which individuality will be preserved? Yesterdays? Three years ago? The day you died?
Just getting started
Jesus Christ of Nazareth...
Man is not doing the walk to deserve it presently.
will the evil of political government be removed from world to come? so people can obey God's commands instead of human commands?
By, jove, is this what i've incurred in subjecting myself from criticising quantum? In all fairness, ye high preists of quantum, this sounds and is just as ridiculous as ye quantum quack.
...a delusion.
Guys shows lives after deaths are happy lands. However how guys figuret out imortality his NOT show true evidence is his living now. Honestly guys believes in imortality is open doors to evil because he knows imortality are waiting for them. Crazy guys shows bizarre fallacies dreams reality is not true.
Хахаха...!
Will clothing be immortal too? Or will they need tailors? 🤔
Let's see if this single, totally unoffensive comment can survive shadow-banning after a whopping 60 views.
*Immortality* is an abstract derivative of how the human mind interprets specific elements of "Existence." There is a combination of *two existential elements* that give rise to abstract constructs such as Immortality, Multiverse, God, Souls, and so forth.
*(1)* A minimalistic presence of intelligence (minimal orchestration) woven into the fabric of "Existence;" just enough to keep evolution pushing forward.
*(2)* Whatever information is produced within existence necessarily stays within existence. No data is lost during the process.
Existence is a data-driven operation. The quest for *new information* is at the very heart of "Existence," and the acquisition of new information is facilitated via evolution. Once new information is generated, that data can never become nonexistent. Nothing from the "Existence Set" can ever move over to the "Nonexistence Set" nor can the "Nonexistence Set" ever offer anything in return even if it could.
After 13.8 billion years of evolution, our self-aware human consciousnesses colorfully encapsulate the ever-present status of data as constructs such as "immortality," a "Soul" or "God," or a "Multiverse."
We either attempt to put a face on it (God, Soul, Spirit) or we create an all-encompassing scenario where all data can remain present without having to attach a face to it (Multiverse, Many Worlds, Pocket Universes).
*_"What happens in Existence stays in Existence!"_*
But what happens to human information if a meteor takes out planet Earth?
@@browngreen933 *"But what happens to human information if a meteor takes out planet Earth?"*
... The *materials* that make up our planet, our lives, the meteor, and all other related structures are recycled/repurposed to generate new information (like smashing a clay sculpture back into a ball of clay and then creating an all-new sculpture). ... However, the data produced during every data-generating cycle exists forever.
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC I get the recycling part. But I don't understand how the specific information contained, say, in a human produced book for example survives the meteor strike if the book itself is recycled as atoms and the human race that produced it too. What am I missing? Thanks.
@@browngreen933 *"I get the recycling part. But I don't understand how the specific information contained, say, in a human produced book for example survives the meteor strike if the book itself is recycled as atoms and the human race that produced it too. What am I missing? Thanks."*
... Okay, here we go!
At the fundamental level, information is nonphysical. True, a rock outwardly presents "physical information" (dimensions, texture, size, weight, volume, mass, etc.) that we can observe using other physical objects (eyes, touch, smell, brains, etc.) but the information that initially formed the rock is nonphysical.
It's all just "Existence" trying to resolve the nature of its own existence.
In regard to your book question, I have written a book that both *contains* and *projects* nonphysical and physical information, respectively. The information contained within it (the internal message) is nonphysical whereas the pages, covers, the ink, the plastic coating, its size, weight, and width are all physical information about what a physical book might typically present to us within our physical reality.
*Example:* I could take the "0" book I've written and make an exact duplicate. I could then rearrange all the pages and mix up every letter contained within it to where the two books are virtually identical except for how the pages and letters are arranged.
The size, weight, colors, fonts, character count, page count, etc. would all be exactly the same. They would both present the exact same amount of physical information, but only *one* of these two books would present the "nonphysical" information (the message contained within it) in addition to its physical information.
Nonphysical information does not require a physical storage device as would be required within a physical realm.
Nonphysical information is a self-contained, nondimensional structure that require no substrate. Physical substrates are things that nondimensional information merely exploits to generate new information. Once the information is generated and gleaned, whatever physical structure was used to generated it gets broken down and repurposed for other data-generating endeavors.
Every bit of information that's ever been generated throughout the history of existence is held within its own self-contained, nondimensional database. So, even if planet Earth were destroyed tomorrow, according to "Existence," every piece of information attached to my book would still exist. ... _It's recorded forever!_
When we die, our life's information is added to the collective database of "Existence" along with everything else that has occurred. Then we have access to all information that's ever been generated and equal access to whatever new information is generated going forward based on our contribution.
Our biggest concern should be *what type* of information we are adding to that collective database based on whether we are in line with whatever direction "Existence" is currently moving after 13.8 billion years of evolution.
In other words, the more inline you are with that direction, the more of that type of information you will have access to.
My reply is not showing up (as usual) *"I get the recycling part. But I don't understand how the specific information contained, say, in a human produced book for example survives the meteor strike if the book itself is recycled as atoms and the human race that produced it too. What am I missing? Thanks."*
... Okay, here we go!
At the fundamental level, information is nonphysical. True, a rock outwardly presents "physical information" (dimensions, texture, size, weight, volume, mass, etc.) that we can observe using other physical objects (eyes, touch, smell, brains, etc.) but the information that initially formed the rock is nonphysical.
It's all just "Existence" trying to resolve the nature of its own existence.
In regard to your book question, I have written a book that both *contains* and *projects* nonphysical and physical information, respectively. The information contained within it (the internal message) is nonphysical whereas the pages, covers, the ink, the plastic coating, its size, weight, and width are all physical information about what a physical book might typically present to us within our physical reality.
*Example:* I could take the "0" book I've written and make an exact duplicate. I could then rearrange all the pages and mix up every letter contained within it to where the two books are virtually identical except for how the pages and letters are arranged.
The size, weight, colors, fonts, character count, page count, etc. would all be exactly the same. They would both present the exact same amount of physical information, but only *one* of these two books would present the "nonphysical" information (the message contained within it) in addition to its physical information.
Nonphysical information does not require a physical storage device as would be required within a physical realm.
Nonphysical information is a self-contained, nondimensional structure that require no substrate. Physical substrates are things that nondimensional information merely exploits to generate new information. Once the information is generated and gleaned, whatever physical structure was used to generated it gets broken down and repurposed for other data-generating endeavors.
Every bit of information that's ever been generated throughout the history of existence is held within its own self-contained, nondimensional database. So, even if planet Earth were destroyed tomorrow, according to "Existence," every piece of information attached to my book would still exist. ... _It's recorded forever!_
When we die, our life's information is added to the collective database of "Existence" along with everything else that has occurred. Then we have access to all information that's ever been generated and equal access to whatever new information is generated going forward based on our contribution.
Our biggest concern should be *what type* of information we are adding to that collective database based on whether we are in line with whatever direction "Existence" is currently moving after 13.8 billion years of evolution.
In other words, the more inline you are with that direction, the more of that type of information you will have access to.
Fairy tales. Immortal Existence is all around us, but it doesn't obey the wishful fantasies of mortal man.
Resurrection of the body??? What a load of crap. What thinking person would believe in that? This is an OLD video that was produced years ago. Not new.
Quite absurd.
Immortality is an imaginary concept for dogs.
I believe my dog will live forever.
(joking)
Immortality is an imaginary concept for dogs.
I believe my dog will live forever.
(joking)