What is God's Eternity? | Episode 1108 | Closer To Truth
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- Does God exist in time, experiencing time's flow? Or is God eternal, existing outside of time, creating time? These questions help assess God's existence and discern God's essence. Featuring interviews with Paul Davies, Eleonore Stump, Gregory Ganssle, William Craig, Robert Spitzer, and Robert Russell.
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#God #Time
My brain is fried thank you very much.
Interesting 🧐 ! Free in what way towards to away From GoD 😵💫
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675 I don’t get sacrifice of something ELSE like a innocent lamb who don’t know WTF it’s head is being hacked off 😢 when it’s the SINNER (Oneself) who should sacrifice an ARM, LEG or something or ALL of THEMSELVES if anything! 😢
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Oh perfect. I clicked on the right video then
Sometimes overthinking isn't helping. Sometimes admitting we don't know is a sign of wisdom.
tell that to all theologians
Alexander, Theologians produce theories not facts. Don’t we all do that?
not everything can be explained. sometimes the easiest way is to accept something that we dont know yet..
@@shannon7002 Do theologians agree with you?
@@shannon7002 Scientists produce theories too.
Us praying to God is like a character in a novel praying to the author to change the ending.
"us" being you, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor?
There is very little point in using words unless they have some matching or corresponding experience, or are symbols of something that has actually been experienced, so it is meaningless to speak of "God's eternity" when there cannot possibly be any matching or corresponding experiences for either God or eternity- both are no more than vague generalisations or unfocused photographs or just blurs
@@vhawk1951kl What the f*ck are you babbling on about?
I don’t agree. Characters in novels are not real.
Nice how large chunks of the episodes are shots of Robert in contemplation, but we don't even care because he has such a perfect philosopher's look.
You can't do a series like this if you don't have the philosophers look :) Greetings to you, friend from a different life.
The more they try to explain faith, the more it becomes in utterly nonsense.
@@hlmco it’s called rationalization. You can bet your bottom dollar none of these professional theists came to their beliefs independently of their upbringing.
I also wondered why they fill so many scenes with images from space, almost as though implying these were created things.
Not to mention the deep musky voice of an elder philosopher. At 37 I'm still working on mine!
the good thing about religious apologetics is that one can invent any explaination to overcome whatever criticism or inconsistency or any nonsense in general.
Yup
@@rubiks6 that might as well be so with some!
You could replace the word "religious" with anything and it would hold true. "Apologetics" of any theory, thought, ideology, etc, by the very definition of being an "apologetic", will always "invent" ways out of any contradictions they create. You see it in politics, science, and theology (including atheism) all the time. And yes, atheism is itself a religion. It is a religion of nothing, with members of this way of thinking every bit as zealous as those who believe in a particular religion. It is just as difficult to explain the concept of no Creator, that everything just "is because it is", as it is difficult to explain an omnipotent Creator. Neither can be explained without some sort of pitfalls. The truth is we don't know and can't know.
We are all trying to get closer to truth and in doing so we argue for certain truths whether we are theists or atheists. As the Buddhist says, we are always searching and never quite finding.
This lady in the very beginning of this video, Eleanor, blew my mind! But at the same time made so much sense and personally I have conceived such a theory myself. To hear someone else finally voice that same thesis is like, WOW! Of course I think she’s brilliant. Only we exist in linear time, but in God’ perspective and reality there exist the now presence with what we would call past and future just being branches of a tree that’s constantly extending out, but the actual tree trunk itself remaining non changing, static. God, being unchanging can sees those branches at all intervals of its growth and each interval is accessible and remains there for him. As it would be for us to see and access any branch of a tree no matter how much that tree grows.
She was excellent in explaining it. It re-affirms Him.
Eleonore Stump is amazing and I recommend you seek her other videos on this channel and elsewhere!
It was a very odd hypothesis not really supported by anything. If anything there is no such thing as a now, and there may not even be a singular instant of any measurable time. At the Planck time (hypothetical but QM is incredibly accurate and predicts it) time loses meaning in fuzzy uncertainty below it's threshold.
What she had to say was really just a slightly more salient hypothesizing than what Deepak Chopra does on the backs of legitimate science.
The hubris of some of these theologians is sometimes comical.
It sounded either like a complete and meaningless word salad, or just God standing outside time and ‘observing’ (whatever that means in this context of non-time) a block universe where everything that had happened/is happening/will happen is present. Not very enlightening or original either way.
I always imagine a beautiful neon glowing tree in black darkness and God being the pruner. What you just explained is matching my own thoughts and my ideas are only from the Bible. I think he’s revealed it to his chosen.
"nothing becomes, becoming is" I liked that
I am happy to understand just one sentence in this entire video.
somebody should do a series about obsessive people who ask abstract questions that have no answers
robert : hold my beer
Wish the sound track on this video had been in time!...ABSOLUTEY ,all over the place!!
Lol
You sir, seem to ask all the questions ive been asking all my life, and a few more lol
you can only closer to truth if you turn inward not outward 🙏
God is inside me there is where he's at
It is like having a great mountain rising out of the plains. Well, everywhere you look at the mountain, it looks slightly different, depending on where you are looking. If you are up close, if you are far away, if you are to the north, the south, the east or the west-it all looks different, you see. But it is the same mountain. It has not changed with your perspective.
You may debate with others about the appearance of the mountain. You are looking from the north and they are looking from the south. Oh, the mountain looks so very different. You argue about its features and its manifestations. To someone up close, it is huge and monumental. To someone at a distance, it is just something out on the horizon. The experience is different. The perspectives are different. But the mountain has not changed. It has not adapted itself to people’s perspective or people’s position around it.
~Marshall Vian Summers
Thank you Rod!
Thank you, Rod.
Maybe we got it all wrong from the beginning with our understanding of time, space, eternity and even God.
Extremely true. I was thinking about it. Even our theories of physics are incomplete currently. May be when we have discovered a theory of everything, when the technologies would be advanced enough to gaze into the exact moments or couple of hundred years before the Genesis of this universe and when we have quantum computing maybe then we can answer this question
and maybe the concept of time, space, eternity and even god itself are true from the begining and after time to time have been perfected by religion . who knows..
@@batmanarkham5120 are you expecting to peer back n see God holding a sign saying I did this? The answer is simply faith!
@@flyingtime5501maybe we’ll see him holding that sign the day we die. Apparently He has a sense of humor.
Thank you Mr. Robert! 🌟
Yes, absolutely God is outside of time,
Variations on a theme of God that are impossible to reconcile. Tormenting. The ultimate mind-f*cker.
If it's tormenting try to stop thinking about it. You'll never figure it out anyway.
I find them quite easy... and fascinating too...
@@tomashull9805 me too :)
This is the most 'How Many Angels Fit On The Head Of A Pin?' conversation I have heard in along time....
By the way,the answer is 42.
Write in sequence events that happened to you in One hour.
Then put those on piece of paper at random. Then imagine those not happening but are just existing.
That's God outside of time
Even in the Bible, God gave people choices with ultimate results for either decision. Using the word " If ". This implies multiple realities depending on the individual's path, however, we can only experience the path we choose in the moment of now. What is amazing is that God can take our prayers from "now" and use the information to change our future.
A very good entry in the Series. The guests expound their arguments very clearly.
Good show ... gets the brain pondering on issues most ask about but cannot grasp the significance of such questions and the implications of answers that may arise
i still contend that God is not of our reality but outside of it ... or how else could he create it if our reality is creating him? or a part of him?
our reality consists of time, space and energy which from our perpective are infinite
But could be finite as per Gods creation
in math ironically we have 3 infinities too
you can count forever, subtract forever and 0 is infinite
and 0 is nothing
with reference to time ... that number line implies "now" could very well be infinite.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675i know all of your response ...
however God gave us minds of enquiry
I have not brought God into question but rather where he is in terms of reality or realms ... im of the belief he is outside of our reality and he created our reality
Hearing that it is resurrection of personality and not the body certsinly sounds more believable
More analysis for more topics please, very good
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
17:43,, time is timeless and god is a verb
She is a smart Lady. I liked it how she "stopped time" by stretching it out infinitely. In physics there is a smallest unit of time - for us not for god - but if it would not be there indeed one could divide time instances infinitely until everything stops. And that god can understand things that are simpler than himself (linear) time but we can't understand more complex forms of time, makes sense. For example we can understand a 3 D form and a 2 D form but not a 5 D form. But that does not mean that someone who has a 5 D form can't understand what for example a quube is.
I believe when we truely understand ourselves we will then know the theory of everything..As above so below..Consciousness is the source and that source collects the collective consciousness to expand universal eternal consciousness😊
I. Can somewhat grasp the notion
Of all time is now
It mskes
Sense
When did the past end and future begin
The one that created physicality was deep in thought, phisical matter is the fruit of that thinking. It cannot be named the amount and duration of that thinking but it can be understood to be beyond our understanding. When it thought about phisical matter it thought hard. Manifesting it all while outside of what we can call time.
One formulation I have read from some religious thinkers of the past is that the universe has "always been" emanating from God. There wasn't a time when it didn't exist at all. But what we experience as different points in time as we move through it, are all present to God.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
Hi Sir, I have a simple question. Inside a factory at the end of the shift a supervisor and his co-worker are counting the produced objects, the objects are approximately the size of a tennis ball. It is their daily routine,the worker counts the objects as he takes it from the production lot and puts it inside a bag. The role of the supervisor is to keep watch so that there is no mistake while counting. One fine day, before starting the counting process, the supervisor looks at the lot and writes down some random three digit number as quantity of the produced items, in short he assumes that the actual quantity would probably match with that number. Now the question is what are the chances of that actual quantity matching exactly with that random number?
OK FOLKS HERE IS THE ANSWER...READY?
NOBODY KNOWS...
GOOD DAY.
That's the best answer for all this craziness! But it's just human nature to seek answers about this life.
@@scottlouissmith2382And there is value in thinking about it and discussing it. Without reflecting on the topic, we cannot even know what we don't know.
@@SirLothian Isn't that what I just said?
@@scottlouissmith2382 Well yes and no. I assumed you meant it is not worth talking about since nobody knows. My point is that it is worth talking even if we don't know and never get an answer... Wasn't trying to be argumentative!
@@SirLothian Ok, I see! No harm, no foul!!!
It is such a logical contradiction to say that "Time Began". By definition, without time there can be no change like a "creation of the universe" or a "universe coming into being". Since we see change, it appears that there is this thing we call time. To me, being able to notice change indicates that time never started and that it was always there. I think we have an understanding of time because our mind create a model of it as a way to understand it.
Time in our reality can have a beginning ... if you take away from eternity ... eternity remains ... and if you take more you still left with eternity and if you eternally keep taking more you still have eternity to take from ... so the piont you start taking is the begining to a never ending increment
time is eternal from our perspective ...at least you can agree on that
Dennis, if there is time, can you inform me of its basic unit ?
The dual particle/wave property of matter serves as an aid to understanding God by analogy. God is both a principle (timeless, mental) and a person ( capable of interacting in real time).
That is , the dual nature of God.
I humbly see it this way, we experience time differently than God would, even in this universe we can experience time differently (theoretically) depending on speed and gravity. Working off the analogy that time is a river i would add that we are on rafts that go only
Downstream , we can never go back or look beyond the bends upstream but God can see the entire river all at once as from afar and could enter it at the beginning middle or end which for Christians would be the incarnation, ie Jesus jumping in the river at a given point, and is subject to time, whereas those on the rafts (us) only flow down stream. He can enter time or remain outside of it.
in my opinion.. we live in different dimension with god. for example.. we live in 3d and he live beyond it.. so theoretically at flow of time stream like past, present and future its not even relevant.. moreover it could be the time itself has another explanation beyond past, present and future.. who knows
when you use the word "we" you seek to convey or point to yourself, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor?
Perhaps you can help me with this: does "we" ever have a headache, and if so how do you know that "we has a headache".
Given that time is merely a cognate or synonym for the impression of change, how do you know that other creatures broadly similar to yourself experience change or one of its cognates and synonyms in a different way from the way in which you experience it? - How do you go about establishing that, or discovering it is the case or true?- on what direcct immediate personal do you base the other's experience of whatever you mean by time, or change or whatever differently from you? - How do you go about discovering that?- can you experience what they experience as they experience it?
It is demonstrably impossible for one man to experience one another man experiences, for were otherwise, when one man has a headache all men would have headaches, and they simply don't - therefore they do not and cannot experience what the other experiences, for if it were otherwise they would experience what the other experiences and they simply don't.
Do you suppose all men to be identical, or the generality of men homogenous? - What is your evidential basis for that if that is your supposition?
Assuming God has perfect, total knowledge of everything, that means God understands completely what it's like to be me, Robert Kuhn, my cat, or an insect on my wall. That means that God actually has to EXPERIENCE the totallity of my life, Robert Kuhn's life, my cat's life, and the life of an insect on my wall. Therefore, what we each are part of God's infinite consciousness because we are actually God living our limited life in the physical universe. This also means that God has CHOSEN to forget who he is when he lives each of our live's. There's no other way for God to have perfect, total understanding of who each of us are. Furthermore, it means God lives WITHIN time as each of us, as well as eternally outside of time as we know it. Because of this chain of reasoning, I've come to the same conclusion as the Nobel prize winning physicist Erwin Schrodinger: there is only ONE consciousness having an infinity of experiences.
namaste my friend.
I’m unclear how you reason that God has chosen to forget who he is when he lives each of our lives. The concept of superposition in quantum physics says that particles like electrons, photons and atoms can exist in multiple states simultaneously, so it may be that God can still remember who he is while he lives our lives as well.
Talking Quantum is Very-very close....to the Truth 😉
If god exists he’s there all the time
God=energy
I'm experiencing a hectic bound of existential crisis and its lasted for a few months now. Its quite uncomfortable in my mind. I just need relief
Life is simpler than we think. Follow simplicity. The truth is always In front of you. It is.
Greg looks like a hybrid of Zach Galifianakis and Nick Offerman.
What is present is Now 4:05. Nailed it! +1
For me Now is not exclusive to the Divine, or some special Saint. It is ubiquitous and there for all to experience.
Interestingly in meditation everything seems to slow down, you forget the past and the future, so now is now there too. And meditation can heal, perhaps because it is closer to the god mode.
When the light of God enters into creation it forms an arc. It is when the lesser light crosses itself that we begin to mark time. In the end, what we witness when we see a black hole is the unwinding of time or creation collapsing unto itself. Throughout this process the will of God is accomplished through the mystery of gravity. Gravity is transformative from time to timelessness and is what enjoins science and human spirituality. God's covenant, manifest in mankind, leads us out of time into timelessness. He was born of the spirit impervious to time.
Excellent interview with Eleonore Stump !
I see God as having four dimensional consciousness.
Revelation 22:13
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End".
@Stefano Portoghesi...no one can deny space, time and energy are infinite in our universe so it cannot be a construct of peoples wishful thinking .... eternity is REAL
Great! more words salad: Yummy :)
Why can't he be outside of time and yet enter into time?
You got to get RT Mullins on here.
It is easy to say something such as out of time but the problem is how would you describe or go around with such thing. When we talked of something it is not enought that we say something about but we should expound it in a way that we totally describe it to the easy understanstanding of everybody.
Não fique assim companheiro, como que perdido, Deus é tudo que vês e não vês !
I give R.L. Kuhn ALL the credit for asking good questions.....deep....but to try to get ANSWERS from other HUMANS is limited.....fruitless....
Why does our environmental circumstance cause biast in our religious preferences?
(Location,location,location)
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great questions, interview. thanks.
'Eternity' is an intuition of Infinitude, when we apply a 'time' concept to it..
So here is one of the main problems.. People have a very poor understanding of what the word 'infinite' actually means.. This is not any kind of 'fault', but just that we have evolved within the confines of what appears to be a finite environment, and we thus try to look at things in finite ways, also justifying those 'finite' thoughts. When I first approached the 'problem' I had the same difficulties, so it takes our minds a lot of effort to reach another perspective of understanding, but it IS achievable..
Firstly, there cannot be more than one 'instance' of infinitude, otherwise a secondary 'thing' would render them both 'finite'. So we are describing a 'oneness'.. Also, it can have no 'beginning' nor 'ending' as these would also necessitate a secondary 'thing' (or the utter nonsense of a 'nothing'!). Then, we have to admit that it can only be the one thing that interconnects all other 'things', and we deduce this to be 'Space', necessarily..
All references to 'size' or 'direction' do not apply to the nature of infinitude, and thus have no relevance to our understanding of the true nature of existence. 'Measurement' has limitations.. When we point to any position in Space, we effectively create a 'beginning' to any subsequent forms of measurement, which only has relevance to the entity desiring to understand said 'measurement'. This does not make it a feature of the nature of reality, only a desire from a Human perspective.
If time is integral to energy, then in our physical universe, all would stand still without the passing of time. Consider Einstein's theory of relativity that energy has time as a component of the speed of light.
Gods concept of time might be different from ours.
Depends how fast we are going.
I can't believe anyone believe in this delusion
God is this, God is that... no one knows... or is real... time this, space that...
Time and universe is within God.
God is formless, timeless but, can take any form at any time.
All it needs is sincere prayer.
That's how the words if Saints are word of God.
So it is a special pleading fallacy that you have with no proof. Timeless means that it simply does not exist in reality and you have a logical fallacy when you are suggesting that you know all about it.
How did you come to those conclusions? Please explain the data you analyzed and the methodolgies you employed.
18:23 later reference for myself don’t mind me
Real good channel.
How does God enjoy his life or spend his time?
Is he married?
Is not the simple reality that when God's Son came into the world He entered our time world and was here for 33 years of that time world that we live in . Jesus Christ experienced all the realities that relate to the vicissitudes of time even to death on a cross where His suffering must, ' at times' felt like an eternity.. I Love you Lord and I lift up my voice to worship you Oh my soul rejoice. Take joy my King at what you hear, let it be a sweet sweet sound in your ear. Praise God and bless His Holy city of Jerusalem. Amen.
So what about when a person dies and goes to heaven. There must be passing sequence of events in heaven for a person, so what time is that in relation to time in the universe?
Eternity is the atemporal attribute of reality. And that attribute is best explained without the fictitious agencncies of mythological deities.
You know that closer to the truth means closer to the God ... John 14:6 , the TRUTH...
Nonsense, truth necessarily requires demonstration to substantiate it, as no one can demonstrate any god you cannot assert it as any truth.
No wonder why God’s name is “I am” or in other meanings: to exist, to be, to call forth, to bring about. The one who designs. The tree of life grower, the pruner, the gardener who lives in the eternal now.
I have question..has love been eternal & if so that defenitltly exist within this realm as well as gods..its definitely abstract
Thats what i would think. Abstract ideas such as love, justice, happiness etc would have to be eternal in some sense atleast within the mind of god in his knowledge
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
I gaze at the night sky and realize:
I am the stars gazing back at me.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I now enter a state of consciousness that knows the oneness of all.
Now I am the diamond - not any one facet.
I am the diamond - the oneness of all.
I am no longer the fragmented mind of a man.
I am now Eternity observing my SELF - one of the denizens of Eternity's dream.
But it is not a switch of perspective.
It is what it is.
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
And the process repeats in a timeless existence.
Like a mirror within a mirror within another.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I am not my SELF anymore but only the oneness of all.
But nothing changes in Eternity.
There never is a change of perspective.
It is what it is.
There still is my SELF and Eternity,
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
Eternity so far beyond one has to probably experience to inform, a reason why God's son came into the world as Jesus. Main concern is to get to eternity from this world, leaving explanation of eternity to Jesus.
👉📣 If a human is able to do so many things we themselves can't believe, what can the creator do is just out of our span of thinking or imaginations 😊
God=Energy
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In the beginning there was a word/energy and the word was God
Universe created man and man created God in his mind
God knows the future,otherwise he gambled on creation,hence a risk taker?
Intuitively it seems impossible for there to be an infinite past because if there is an infinite past how would we ever have reached the present? It just seems obvious that time needs a beginning. I can easily conceive of an infinite future, but not an infinite past.
why use the word "infinite" where you have no experience of the infinite - which can only be some vague woolly idea with no corresponding experience that is not no more than a vague woolly idea? Do you notice how men use words and simply assume that they have the meaning of those words or some corresponding experience? - In plain language it is as if they say to themselves I have the word, therefore I must know what it means or how I understand it it", but if you actually ask them what the word means to them or conveys to them, they have no idea; it is as if words obscure rather than reveal- they act as mere proxies for something else, the nearest analogy being a pectoral photograph or painting of a piece of bread; it looks like a piece of bread but it is not in the sense that you cannot eat it as if it were bread, and the same goes for words; why bother with the meaning or import of a word if you have the word and never need to trouble yourself with what it means?
I would like to see any real evidence of what Eleonore Stump was saying. Somehow, I doubt that there is any.
What would count as evidence for her claim(s)?
@@joshheter1517 Anything that supports her claims and that can be verified. I'm sick and tired of every person or groups that make claims about God. God wants...blah blah blah...God is all...blah blah blah...God's eternity is...blah blah blah. It is BS like this that makes me confident that God is a stupid notion created by man kind that became popular.
The present is eternal, has always existed, will always exist, is everywhere and cannot be escaped from, even by way 'death'. We are immortal, with or without the physical vehicle.
cool, you should write a novel
YES!! GOD EXISTS!! I AM PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.
God has no beginning had always been there
What is ET's breakfast?
Eternity's most common name, is God,
Eternity is Name-less in it's own Eternal Nature.
Eternity is 'The Living', behind the Being.
God=Energy
Relationship of time to God likely different than human experience of time. Probably God work with all aspects of time at once, including before time, past, present, future, after time and beyond time.
TIME IS DEPENDING ON GOD, BECAUSE GOD IS TIME/LIFE FOR HIMSELF, GOD IS THE SPACE/SOUL/SPIRIT FOR TIME TO EXIST IN HIM, GOD IS THE ETERNITY. SO ETERNITY =GOD =LIFE =TIME, & HE IS JESUS/YESHUA/YHWH, ALWAYS THE SAME, YESTERDAY & TODAY & FOREVER, ALPHA&OMEGA AMEN! 😊🙏
Currently it’s approximately 85 years for a normal human.
What's God's Eternity? Alpha & Omega.
Let's assume there is no human left on Earth not one single song then what is God in relation to that ???
God put a cap on our brains similarly the way we limit machine abilities
You don't know that! You are just making it up.
This is a non question. Time is a characteristic of the geometry of the universe, if you somehow could be outside this region of space we call our universe, time would not be a thing. Also, even inside the universe, if you could move at speed of light, time would disappear to you.
Time is not real. Real things simply don't stop existing when conditions breach the capacity of their parameters. The construct of time is, however, very useful for human beings trying to understand the nature of reality. Such tedious arguments. We don't get to make up things and say that they are true, simply because they appeal to our incredibly limited perspectives.
Its like a bicycle wheel. When you are in the hub, you are wit part of god in the now. When you are in the tyre, you are part of god in time. Every event in time is connected to the hub. To the hub time does not flow. When you walk the tyre of time, the now passes by, out of your awareness. You are hiking a dream.
God=Energy
"But God then became trapped, never able to revert to God's timeless,eternal state." I often feel trapped in this temporal life. The strange thing is... who can unlock the trap?
The Devil?
@@ferdinandkraft857 I don't think the devil has the right key. Anyhow... even if he did, I think he wants us to remain trapped in our cages.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 c'mon, give the guy a chance!
I wonder during the 5 minute mark what she was writing they edited it so onviously to not show her writing on paper or the paper being just out of frame. It was so weird, why hide it?
I think you can push this question of a timeless God even further if what you mean by "God" is the wave function of the Universe. If the Universe has zero energy and a spherical topology, then both space and time are emergent, not fundamental. The only fundamental thing is the quantum mechanical wave-function, in which case that's all "there is". The wave function is not part of spacetime - it gives rise to both space and time. That's what God really is. It's also the simplest explanation possible.
I wonder why would anybody pay smart and imaginatively gifted people to speculate and hypothesize on stuffs that don't exist, won't exist or can't exist!
I believe in a nameless God
Time in infinite. Where's my Nobel prize
God is Time
Both and. The temporal manifests from the Eternal. The math of the Eternal has no time quotient as something without beginning nor end makes time irrelevant. The temporal manifestation is potential becoming, a process that defines time as ester defines an ocean.
PS Reference the experience of Harri Aalto.
From Hermeneutics, as above so below. See the tree, roots in the temporal soil for substance and sustenance, and a crown present to the Eternal infinite sky from which its life is sustained.
I love this idea, God felt in love to his creation, lose virginity and decide he will grow old and die together with us. Better than what was before creation, i guess. And it's not like universe will die any time soon, we have eternity to spend in a great company. God being what it is can make end of the universe meaningless, just return to his old primordial form or became something else, whatever.
It's all because this things around us are not a stone, atoms are not geometrical solids, have nothing to do with anything we can possibly imagine and aren't small at all, since they radiate and absorb energy of entire universe, even bend space time itself. An ordinary piece of sand can't do that, it's just an invisible lump of matter, detached from reality, if we stick to definitions. But since sand is not a small piece of something, we can see it, it bend space time and react to influences, no matter how small it seems for creatures like us. It's a strange contradiction, we can see a small dusty particle, but we think it's not really important because it's so small. But why do we see it than, if it's so small, perhaps it have a giant battery and powerful lamp installed somewhere at it's tinny core. I'm telling ya, reality is not things inside other things, it's way more complicated, complex and powerful than that.
And why do scientists say we can see back in time when looking at cosmos, not really, all we see is projection of light particles or waves, whatever. It just so happens that all we know about physical reality align at that maximum rate of change, but please mind we can detect only like 10% of everything that exist, according to same measurements and calculations. Why not travel faster than light, it doesn't make time go away, might brake fundamental laws of motion and energy maybe, but nothing really bad would happen, since every object in the universe depend of their elemental clock first. It's atoms, no matter where they are or in what state, they still signal their internal time space.
Here's where true magic begins, asking physical questions about divine force of nature will always lead us to same conclusions, everything is possible, if you have fairy tale powers. Because this is the only way God can be all those contradictions and paradoxes, he must be made from magic dust and can do everything we see in cartoons. So we have two choices, stick with physics and numb down personal intuition or believe in fairy tales and keep the faith sisters and brothers.
@Mark Coleman Absolute power of nature, sounds like a weapon of universal destruction.
It's interesting how modern technology is based on a work of a single man, Nikola Tesla believed we could use Earth's electric field to convey and store information from our conscious minds in that ether. He had visions of civilization based on electricity before people knew how to generate electric potential and route energy where is needed, but he couldn't know how exactly would that work and what do we mean by information today. Smart mobile phones are best example, 5 years ago average battery was around 2 amp hours, now it's 5 ah and modern circuits are times more efficient. This means smaller circuit perform more calculations and waste less energy to heath. Modern electronics can do much more work in less time and use less energy, because of that non intuitive rule human society is more efficient than ever before in history. But are we also happier with our lives, that's completely different question.
I believe imagination is most precious substance in whole universe and nothing we do as species can't compensate for pure biological potential of a dreaming conscious brain. This means every single healthy human brain can be more powerful than all the rest of humanity combined, because it takes a lot of imagination to come up with something completely new, no other human in history has though about before. We live in Tesla age now and we can't even imagine different kind of technologies, because electricity is the only power we can control to push our machines, just like steam engines were before that and same as future ideas will change this world again, making all this industrial power that exist today obsolete over night.
There doesn't seem to be any need to rationalize God's time. All you need to do is invoke magic and therefore God can do anything.
Human is mortal so it wants that, the universe is finite, actually human wants universe reachable.
Quantum mechanics allows (predicts) infinite dimensions... Should we assume that the Cause of the laws of physics that allow infinite dimensions is inferior? Or could God's Eternity consist of infinite dimensions?
Hey Tomas... I like your viewpoints. Very interesting.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thanks. I'm just trying to get closer to truth :-)
@@tomashull9805 Me too. I think we have to keep seeking the Truth all of our life.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Sure. We just have to make sure that we are not seeking the truth as we would like it to be...In other words, we have to remove our biases when seeking truth...
How can people have never met God explain things about him?
important read:
Even if for the sake of argument and speculation, something we chew to entertain the implausible, and we posit a rational concept of an ID creation, with a video game/simulation Creator to make some people around happy, such Creator either is an advanced creature, civilization, or AGI but never the ground of all being as it cannot justify itself or will itself to be before it is such that it has any freedom at its own nature. A Mind cannot will itself own nature into being before it is! It then must fall on a bigger more abstract domain, a bigger timeless Set of PROPERTIES. (It doesn't matter if such properties are from or own POV phenomenological as there must be an Ontology of all possible phenomena, and with this there goes Idealism down the drain). Anyway onward:
Minds are problem solving machines and for such they need to have a defined position in spacetime in order to have a specific informational interacting POV and lack other POV's by contrast...that is to say they need to be incomplete, not all encompassing and thus be dependent on a non personal entity, a domain of all domains like the Multiverse or complex Universe with different laws of Physics in different non local regions etc.
Such a rational, in a block Universe which is timeless and Unified in the Set of all that can ever be might be the kind of Ultimism that gave rise to the popular proto-concept of God that we over the centuries Anthropomorphized on the now dominant traditional religions we are familiarized with.