@@jmurray1110As much as I would hate for Matpat to be right about this one, Id Fantasy's latest video does have me inching closer towards that camp, though I'm still safely 3 miles away from that line. It just feels like a narrative regurgitation to have Michael, Crying Child, and Elizabeth to be around, again.
@@jmurray1110 Don't care for that either. If the Mimic is suppossed to be a thing in Ruin, hopefully it'll take his place, as more of an unrelenting force.
I love the cutaways of WWE Springtrap beating the hell out of an obese child while talking about the murders. Really emphasizes how much child related deaths there is in the franchise.
"If Michael is the main character of FNAF 4, why does he have toy robots all over the ground" Excuse you, it's called collecting Bionicle sets, and it's a very grown-up hobby, have you heard the word of our lord and saviour Mata Nui yet, Jack? Would you like to?
Vanny and Vanessa being the same person was something that I believed until Freddy said something along the lines of “Vanny sounds like Vanessa and bunny” which is so stupid that they pointed out the obvious connection and didn’t even leave a little room to speculate that I thought they were trying to use reverse psychology. The game’s story is so bad that it’s hard to tell if they’re gaslighting us or not
@@genericname2747 I know that Vanny and Vanessa are the same person and I did before the game came out but when the way Freddy pointed it out made it so obviously a red herring that for a bit I categorized it as evidence that the two were separated because no one who actually attempted to write a well thought out story would ever write a line like that unless they were stupid or trying to trick you… Steel Wool is just stupid
@@sunthorn4782 I mean, you say that but there is also the fire escape ending where Vanessa can be seen on top of the Pizzaplex right after Vanny was thrown off of it... some people say it's a ghost, some people say that it's proof that they're two different people, short answer is that it's unclear... that might as well be the catchphrase for the entire series at this point.
@@lukasruston8618 I knew I remembered there being a weird complication that was the main reason I thought they weren't the same person! Thanks for reminding me. I was like "no the reason people don't believe they are the same was something way more obvious than a lack of blood but I don't remember, despite that I remember it being so obvious I'm surprised you missed it"
@@veganmeatball6780oh trust me these kinda people will hold a grudge over people they’ll never meet in their life for centuries, I bet most people who are angry at Scott probably wouldn’t be affected by his decisions in the slightest
"Dark Springtrap" is still the single stupidest thing in this franchise. The books have a LOT of stupid shit, but the fact that Funko just looked at a silhouette of Springtrap in a cutscene, called it "Dark Springtrap" and made a funko, and that, somehow, that's CANON? THAT is the peak of stupidity.
Whoever decided that Willy charred black, crispy and dying counted as a Clipped Wing Angel form is gonna be involuntarily donated to science when they die, so we can study their brain to figure out where it all went so wrong.
Admittedly, I do like the idea of whenever weird obscure stuff that's more based on mistakes than actual canon can be pretty cool when done well, one example being Starline form the Sonic IDW comics being based on the "Wechnia" from Sonic Chaotix. This though? This ain't it.
Fnaf 1-4 was a nice vase. Sister Location accidentally bumped into the vase and it fell on the floor, getting cracked in the process. Pizzaria Sim and UCN came and sealed up the cracks with paste. The vase is now a little bit uglier than before but it’s still fine it works. Help Wanted then came in with a hammer. Then Security Breach was hired to make a brand new vase but instructions were mixed up and we ended up with a plate. Does this metaphor make sense? No? Well good, it represents the fnaf storyline perfectly then.
Makes more sense than the FNAF storyline. What? Who said that? No but I totally agree, though I think lorewise the game fell off with the release of 4, but FFPS and UCN did in fact seal up the cracks. It was cleaned up the best it could be. And if Help Wanted had stuck with being a VR experience without adding new lore (maybe clarifying previous lore would've been cool, but Glitchtrap is…stupid), it would've been perfect. A nice little bow to wrap up the gift of the franchise. Alas.
Oh no, I'd say that Security Breach was more of a woodchipper into make a plate with the powder and that disgusting apple core from centuries ago on it because fuck continuity i guess
William Afton went from "slightly silly but grounded deranged child murderer" to just Master fucking Xehanort he keeps coming back, he planned for literally everything despite being dead for much of this series, he takes multiple vessels and followers into his evil schemes, etc etc if the next FNAF game is about WIlliam Afton inventing time travel to vibe check even more children and make sure his younger self knows how to vibe check them in the future i'm taking someone hostage
@@Vee_Sheep There is one Michael. He was a human, then a corpse, then possibly a ghost in Glamrock Freddy. But only one. The better question is how many canon Jeremys there are. Jeremy in the books (1) Jeremy, the missing children's incident victim (2) Jeremy, Fitzgerald, the widely accepted Bite of '87 victim (3) And finally, Jeremy, that dude that sliced his face off to escape Glitchtrap, who is...AI? Ghost? I don't know anymore...
18:40 i like the idea that the minigames are also caused by michael hallucinating while low on oxygen springtrap is walking in circles following noises while michael is punching the wall over and over trying to put in a code
William taking over the Blob was not something I considered but it makes too much sense. They should add Donkey Kong to FNAF, he would definitely kill William Afton for good
Sometimes it feels so strange how little control of the story afton actually has despite it being pretty much ABOUT him. Things just happen to him that happen to be beneficial or fail to impede him. After killing the kids, he got stuck in the springlock suit and became immortal. He then got trapped for 30 years in a backroom which pretty much is never brought up in the games even though this is probably one of the only times that someone actually succeeded at 'stopping' Afton. He then got released at random, burned alive a few days later, wasn't hindered at all, got lured into another place where he got burned again, only to be brought back as an AI and become even stronger again, again without him plotting anything, he possessed the two testers, one of the only things he actually intentionally did for the longest time, then after getting himself back into his old suit, for some reason, gets beaten by a kid and immediately gets eaten by the blob and inevitably will become more powerful again. Afton is in so little control of his own rise to power he's not even a villain by this point, he's just a lucky guy who's trying to pretend like he knows what he's doing.
>only to be brought back as an AI ...to spite a pissed off child ghost who wanted to do the "30 year hell" thing again, but longer (it wasnt)* And yeah, pretty much. Peepaw Willy accidentally stumbles into another situation after he became a Furry
Well now we know Burntrap/possibly other incarnations of Springtrap weren't Afton but a heretofore unknown animatronic called the Mimic so it's even more all kinds of confusing.
"Morally purple." Also, yeah, if Michael was self aware of who he is while posessing Glamrock Daddy, "what the hell I'm not even Foxy" is legitimately something he'd say at some point and that's as hilarious as it is stupid.
13:01 When the first FNAF came out, I always just chalked the Bite of 87 as one of those company public embarrassments. Just some term that blue collar workers throw around, like "The outage back in May" or "The flooding of '03". Never really considered it more important than just suggesting the animatronics are known dangers. But the burgeoning fandom had little to no lore at the time, so naturally they clung unto what little there was and tried to make em out to be the biggest things ever. So naturally Scott just ended up going along with it and giving em what they wanted.
One of the biggest problems with FNAF's timeline is that it's actually. Four timelines. Because it essentially got soft-reset thrice. Once by FNAF 4, once by Sister Location, and then once the torch got passed over to Steel Wool Studios. When Scott made FNAF 1, there was no overarching story, it was just a game with a defined setting and a hidden story about murdered children hidden in rare in-game events. Nothing too complicated, and he didn't expect it to become that big of a hit. It became a *HUGE* hit. So he made FNAF 2, and when he made FNAF 2 he actively had FNAF 3 in mind as a finale. One story with a beginning, middle, and end. FNAF 1's hidden lore established the murders, FNAF 2 gave us a glimpse at the killer, and FNAF 3 both showed his death and had you face him down yourself to end him for good (or did you?). And that was the end of the story, one complete package. But then people didn't like FNAF 3's death jumpscare. So Scott, disappointed, made FNAF 4, then subtitled The Final Chapter, with the nightmare animatronics, and an audio-based survival gameplay to get you in prime position to get jumpscared. And in FNAF 4's minigames, judging by Scott's cryptic hints during MatPat's streams, was meant to re-contextualize all of the others in one way or another. Whether you choose to believe it or not, taking only the first 4 games into consideration, Dream Theory (FNAF 1-3 were all the dreams of a scared child) actually seems like it was a very reasonable theory at the time. For example, "Why would the toy Chica be missing her beak?" That implies that the reason Toy Chica in FNAF 2 has no beak when she's chasing you is because the child saw it on the playground and it entered his nightmares. But Scott wasn't happy with some elements of FNAF 4 so he made Sister Location which retconned all of that previous implication from 4 into making everything in the series definitively true, and also hijacking concepts from the (then) new FNAF novel, The Silver Eyes, into canon. This is where Afton got his name from. Though the actual events of the novel trilogy itself isn't canon, the concept introduced there-in, such as Remnant, are, putting it in a really weird semi-canon state. Sister Location was marketed as being a separate, new storyline. But it wasn't. And it turned the killer from a mysterious unknown child-murderer to an evil mad scientist. People didn't really like the new hard sci-fi direction it took the series. So Scott kinda retreated into hiding for a little over a year while he developed Pizzeria Simulator in near-total secrecy, shadow-dropping it disguised as a really cheap-looking free old-timey style game which quickly shed the facade into being the proper finale to the timeline. Pizza Sim's story did a lot of hard work in course-correcting what happened with Sister Location and tying up all the loose ends, and has the absolute best piece of story content in the series with its true ending. Ultimate Custom Night was originally meant to simply be a custom night DLC for Pizzeria Simulator but the project grew so large that Scott decided to make it into its own separate thing. It was a cute epilogue send-off as Afton suffers in his own personal hell for all eternity. But then Scott passed the IP off to Steel Wool Studios who hard-soft-reset the timeline entirely but I'm less familiar with their work and I'm getting tired from typing but. Yeah, Steel Wool could have taken the story in such an interesting direction if they'd focused on someone truly new, a story of corporate greed not being willing to let go of the past. But in servicing the brand they just can't let go of the past.
Yeah I think this is the only sane way to look at the series. Scott's "vision" for the story changed rapidly from game to game and he's admitted this himself. FNAF 1 to FNAF 3 - "The Purple Guy" story FNAF 4 - Crying Child's story, "Dream" Theory (The box was definitely something to support dream theory but was scrapped because ending a multi-million dollar franchise on "it was all a dream lol" would have been super disappointing.) Sister Location, Pizzeria Simulator, and UCN - The "Afton" story FNAF VR + Security Breach - Tried to set up the "Vanny" story as a new villain which would have been cool but fucked it up by relying on William Afton again.
@@Kurtlen it’s honestly why when working on this fnaf vhs storyline that I’ve brainstormed and worked on the costume for almost a whole entire year… I wanna make sure the fnaf story I’m making is planned out and understandable in a sense while complex and filled with mystery while being engaging. For a bit I was thinking to maybe keep the aftons and fredbears family diner but I rethought on some things and think it’s better to do a “Blum house Halloween trilogy” if that makes sense. Basicallt reboot the whole dang story and have the events only connect to the first game, but build off of it and make a whole new story that’s also inspired by the rest of the franchise while doing its own thing. Hoping for the first episode I’ve been working on comes out by April I mainly am saying this cuz well, as frustrating as the fnaf lore can be as well as frustrating and sometimes hits hard at you seeing everybody else’s frustration on the franchise that it makes you sometimes question on your love of the series, it has so much material that it could actually make many good au’s (with Scott even making some of his own) Main thing I’m hoping is when I finish one of the costumes for the project of mine, that people could feel that it’s kinda a celebration of bonnie and animatronics, including the slight uncanny factor
You've done really well documenting all of this, but I'd just like to point out one thing regarding the passing of the torch onto SW studios: SW have said in an interview (I believe it was Dawko's) that they were not in charge of the story. Or at the very least, Scott had them implementing things that they had NO idea how it connected to the story. (An example of this being the room with the SL TV and the cryptic message). Perhaps now that Scott has retired he's completely hands off of the story. But when Help Wanted rebooted the series, it was Scott's story still then. He chose to reboot the canon again in order to fit what the VR game was going for, instead of just letting it be it's own thing. If anyone has extra info in that though feel free to say because that's pretty much the extent of my knowledge regarding it.
Admittedly, important to note... >But then Scott passed the IP off to Steel Wool Studios who hard-soft-reset the timeline entirely but I'm less familiar with their work and I'm getting tired from typing but. Yeah, Steel Wool could have taken the story in such an interesting direction if they'd focused on someone truly new, a story of corporate greed not being willing to let go of the past. But in servicing the brand they just can't let go of the past. He actually DOES still retain total control as far as the Lore goes. He signs off on pretty much every decision more or less. And to add, Silver Eyes WAS meant to be paired with FNAF SL. Both of which at the same time introducing several new concepts, though the book of course went much deeper... And as Scott put it more or less, Books 100% Canon, completely different Continuity. Now the Fazbear Frights series... there's definitely elements of Important Lore, and even Parallels, but it's FAR reduced from the Trilogy series.
Given the fact we've never seen how William killed people I chose to take this video as fact and believe old Willy went WWE on kids and brought a steel chair to Cassidy and crew
I was gonna say he's more Weil by Security Breach, being essentially a corpse kept intact by a robotic body. Now whether or not his story will end with him fusing with a doomsday weapon to drop it on Utah, I can't say
I like to think William never got married and that each of his children were the products of various one night stands because Afton's FazGoo is very fertile.
Scenes such as “afton manages to get them in a back room and give them all pile drivers” made me laugh a lot, just seeing springtrap vs random kids doing the specific moves
I remember once I asked my friend if they understood the FNAF storyline and they responded with "there's a storyline?" I have never been so envious of a person's lack of knowledge in my life.
The only good explanation for how the SL animatronics can exist when they do is if somehow, someway, Willie got access to knowledge he was never supposed to have
Yeah it's like how advance of zeta mobile suits and the rest of the horsemen despite being prototypes not only look way more advanced than their in series counterparts but also like the only thing more advanced than them in the entirety of universal century is unicorn. I get it though you can want do a prequel but not want to lower the stakes. At least advance of zeta is like a spinoff and not mainline tho lol
Charles Lee Ray- main antagonist of the Child's Play/Chucky series- has gone from a serial murderer who used a long voodoo chant to possess a doll as he was dying so he could keep on murdering people only for the doll body to turn more human as he spends time in it and can only be killed by having his heart destroyed, to someone who has mastered voodoo from a website and can use a much shorter chant to split his soul and possess a whole army of the same kind of doll body with no ramifications to himself, bodies which can be killed by other means besides having their heart destroyed even when they make no sense compared to some other shit they go through and survive(decapitation doesn't work but strangulation does I guess), and is so crazy prepared for anything that he had his therapist who became his accomplice when he was a child prepare a doll body for him to possess in a safe in her office as WELL as one that he had already possessed and perfectly disguised as the same kind of doll he forced his ex-girlfriend/wife into after he killed her and had given to an extremely impressionable and probably autistic little girl he whispered to as a doll JUST so that, after he decided he really wants to kill her for real this time because she betrayed him to the cops on the night he died for the first time, he can have her take the girl and the disguised doll away from the protagonists of the series and foil her attempt to possess the doll he's already taken up residence in so he can get the drop on her and kill her except not really because no way the show's going to kill one of the most beloved characters in the franchise as the resolution to a cliffhanger. And that STILL isn't as stupid as all the shit that went on with Willy Aftface because at least it's self-aware about how fucking absurd it's gotten.
Oh yeah, I didn’t even mention when his exorcised soul possessed one of the guys involved with the exorcism and made him _explode_ by sheer force of will. Like I said, they know how ridiculous it’s gotten and have fun with it.
Horror Villains are notoriously hard to take seriously if they're reoccuring. Myers had an incest baby with his niece, Jason went to Manhattan and Space, Sadako went from "7 Days" to being a canonical TH-camr and a victim of self-aware mutant smallpox who just wants to be a popstar. Funny enough I'd say Sadako is the closest to Willy A than anything else. They both made people give birth to clones, both keep getting weird powers every time they come back, both for some reason have now used computers even after death for google/youtube, and both at some point went completely digital (VR for Afton, Sadako went full "the universe is literally a simulation and I am in control") You either die on your first or second outing, or you become an absolute gag of a character that nobody takes seriously. You might recover a little with a really good reboot, but you'll fall back within 2-3 outings. Sometimes they reboot and the reboot is immediately impossible to take seriously.
Not to mention he's anatomically correct and has a canonical british, gender fluid child who escaped his abusive puppet master that literally named him "Shit Face."
I will give FNAF this, it fully encapsulates the downfall most relevant long running horror move franchises go through. Starts off as a new, fresh IP with all sorts of iconic mystery, characters and horror, faffs about slowly being consumed by its own weight of it's own branding and iconography, looses the plot of the kind of story it was even telling in the first place as the creator waffles between new idea after new idea each entry, manages to have it's come to jesus moment around its presumed final chapter(no, not the fourth one) meant to cap things off once and for all before essentially rebooting itself and carrying on, basically spitting in the face of everything that came before for the sake of keeping the franchise going because much like its iconic antagonist we can't just let this shambling undead spirit rest.
Seriously, having William Afton come back as a digital apparition all because some incompetent game devs scanned his corpse because of time crunch is The Batman Who Laughs-levels of stupid!
after the hit that was "which punch out character is the biggest cheater?" and "which tf2 mercenire commited the most warcrimes?" we need "which fnaf animatronic commited the most felonies?
The kid just getting slammed into the ground every few minutes or so in wrestlemania broke me edit: oh my god the kids beating the shit out of springwhatever im done
I just wanted to say thank you for being funny in your videos. Ive been going through bad things recently and your videos can still make me laugh while also distracting me
"Umm Actually" Action Park IS still around. They rebranded three times, the second time BACK to action park in like... 2014-2016, when I visited it, and now they are Mountain Creek Water Park. So, it's not impossible for "death entertainment" to still be in operation, especially if it is just different companies buying the rights to the name.
It's funny, of all the FNAF summaries on the internet, the one that's just a guy ranting and complaining while giving a basic summary is one of the most followable
I appreciate what you said about Afton in how no one knows his goals. Some people see him as a sympathetic villain trying to get his kids back, when that is just insane considering he is so willing to murder other children to do it. That whole “I’ll put you back together” really messed up Afton as a character by turning him into a confusing mess. All he needed to be was a child murderer, literally the worst thing a person could be. It makes FNAF 3s ending a perfect ironic ending for a truly evil villain. Then FNAF 4 comes in and suddenly he’s humanized, like we should feel bad for him. That is so unsatisfying, and it really detracts from the impact of the previous games ending. Then FNAF 5 comes, and it confuses things even more by making him some kind of super genius with a group of robots that kill children for… some reason??? It’s never explained why he needs to kill more children, at least in an obvious way. For remnant? Why does he need it? For immortality? Is he still trying to bring his kids back? What the hell does he want??? WHAT is his MOTIVATION??? NO ONE KNOWS! Tldr, I miss when Afton was just a mysterious evil child murderer and that’s it. No children, no overly complex family drama, just an absolutely horrible purple monster.
I actually don't. Just because he has motives and is somewhat sympathetic, doesn't mean we're supposed to feel sorry for him. My take of him, he is sympathetic, but he never really was a good person.
@@sunnyisabunny1479 Hell, if some theories about SB are true, then he manipulated and threatened his own children so he could get them to make his wife look bad during their divorce case.
How a promising villain turning…lame is a major point of interest for me, and I think the way you describe William is on the money. He’s not scary anymore, his status as someone who gets revived and humiliated and revived again is something that damages him both in-universe and out-of-universe. When Sister Location was initially a “fully fresh start”, Ennard felt like a far more fresh and distinctly “Sci-Fi” villain character(s) with tons of potential for various new forms and gameplay mechanics, and he was *literally* thrown into the garbage. He was done dirty in the grand scheme of things, like the shadow animatronics, and the puppet, and Baby, and most likely the Security Breach peeps like the Daycare Attendant and Vanessa. Probably one of the reasons why FNAF has a freakish amount of fan content surrounding it is because the “real” storyline and characters are a trainwreck. It’s the Sonic situation of the fans making more satisfying and coherent stories and characters than what the official people give us. I hope you get to review/discuss something you ENJOY sooner or later, man. Nice work.
Yeah Afon when from a semi-realistic serial killer villain to that demon that really annoying because it refuse to take a lose as an option. Trying to make a ganondarf villain(a villain refused to die and keeps coming back )on your series isn’t usually a good idea.
I totally agree with how Ennard should've been the main villain going forwards; Afton should've died in Fnaf 3 and Ennard should've been the villain from then onwards. Just as proof of this; the Incident Logs fan project shows just how creepy and terrifying Ennard could've been; it can come from anywhere and considering the absolute mess of souls within its body, it acts more like a feral beast than a calculating killer which I feel would've been a perfect replacement for Afton after Fnaf 3.
@@starmaker75Well, Ganondorf makes far more sense for an action-fantasy series where several of the same characters end up being reincarnated, not JUST him. The Link from one game is the descendant of Link from some other game. Plus, I don’t recall Demise ever saying “THIS time, I want to bring him back in a goddamn USB drive!”.
THANK YOU FOR REFERRING TO GOLDEN FREDDY AS SPRING FREDDY I'm not saying it's more correct than golden Fred or anything, I just like the name symmetry better
Since Arkham Knight got mentioned, I went in with no spoilers and didn't know Jason Todd was the Arkham Knight going in. Then I looked in the extras menu and saw that there were Jason Todd costumes I could unlock for him so I got spoiled that way.
My personal theory about T H E B O X is that there's nothing in it. There was never anything in it. This isn't a lore thing tho, it's just that Scott probably didn't know what to have in it, and rather then, you know, put something in it, he just got disappointed in the community about something and fixed that problem for himself by never opening the box because of it.
Guess what!? Shifting into the Virtual Reality of the FNAF Matrix, through using the Vanny Mask, as a means of getting through solid objects and even *teleporting* through the physical world USING the Digital One, is now canon to FNAF! Remember when this franchise so simple and down to Earth, Mat Pat give a play by play visual recreation of the Real Life deaths of Chucky Cheese Employees, to explain that he thought FNAF was based off that?
You're finally going to tackle this beast, huh? You're going to break down the most convoluted, in depth lore in the history of gaming since _Kingdom Hearts._ The game MatPat pretty much built his career off of. Well, it was nice knowing you, Jack.
The game he pretty much built his career on? This game IS his career. And it shows considering how much of a nose dive he took after the game's relevance dried up.
I love the new UCN canon ending of William Afton moonwalking himself out of Hell while flipping the double bird to Golden Freedy and everyone you added Bumbles
Having now returned to this after thr recent lore reveal of "Oh, Glitch and Burntrap aren't actually William. They're actually in reality just and AI built in *whenever the first one in the timeline took place* that watched the murders and is now mimicking them along with William." This has gotten even more funny.
@@corporalregicide5248 I mean... Which franchise that killed his main villain thrice only to bring him back again and again isn't a joke? At least Dragon Ball change villain once in a while
@@leonel392 I'm just gonna say it I don't think William coming back is as much as an issue as people like to think it is especially since it ties into FNAFs themes
@@corporalregicide5248 FNaF themes? I thought the theme was about scary guy that we are trying to defeat, not a fucking Phoenix-man that comes back from the ashes every time we burn him down, so, the villain is pathetic, the games (even if it is controversial) are pathetic and the fanbase is even more pathetic. What good is left in this franchise? The Funko Pops?
@@leonel392 I mean the themes are there again you just need to give enough of a shit to find them because believe me, it's possible, I've done it and i used to be a lot like you in terms of attitude
"If it's not for me anymore.... That's fine" I hate how nobody is talking about that. Most reviewers really harp in on negatives, and he does too, but there's always some regret in there. The man wants what he's talking about to be good, it just isn't
banger of a video, jack, i giggled and tee hee'd a lot also this definitely helped me understand the lore a lot more after the clusterfuck of a call we all had trying to put together the pieces of this godforsaken series-
Five months later, and now apparently ScrapTrap was actually just a yandre cosplayer. That is not me phrasing things wierldly that is literally what the Mimic is. I refuse to accept any other view.
About the whole why the Daycare Attendant has a murder mode thing. In a supreme case of stuffing details on books so they can make more money off them. In Tales From the Pizzaplex book #5 it's stated that he was originally the main attraction of the theater next door. Sun was the good guy, Moon was the bad guy. Eventually due to people quitting on mass. They just said "Fuck it, let's put this random ass animatronic not ment for this job in the daycare." They just didn't take out the Moon part for whichever reason because uhh Fazcorp cheap funny I geuss?
@@genericname2747 I'll take the L one this one if I'm wrong (like we're even going the get an answer lmao) I believe it's more or less implied that the the SB animatronics don't kill you if the jumpscare you. They capture you and take you to Vanny. But who fucking knows at this point.
@@ThatPearlKid I want to believe that Moon just grabs you and throws you into a sleeping bag, and refuses to let you leave until you get a goods night sleep.
@@ThatPearlKid >They capture you and take you to Vanny. But who fucking knows at this point. I know. *PILEDRIVER.* *Oh shit here comes Vanny with the Steel Chair*
At this point, especially after the new info from the books, (fuck the books, all my homies hate the books) I have decided, much like Scott cawthon, that canon is whatever I feel like that day
The "Michael situation" never made sense to me at all, but I read a TH-cam comment once that explained it just a bit: After Michael got scooped, he was used as a costume for the amalgamation called ennard, once his body wasn't useful anymore ennard escaped, technically, this means Michael's body was a animatronic suit for a while, because it carried ennard inside of him for a long time. So Michael, in the chaddest move in the entire series, probably decided to *HAUNT HIS OWN DEAD BODY* to revive himself.... So the Michael we see from this point onwards is just the ghost of Michael haunting his own corpse... That still doesn't makes sense, but it's better than nothing
I can easily see in like 8 to 12 years steel wool doing an interview and they admit that Gregory is a robot, but after the backlash, they decide to scrap any future plans of it
Android Gregory has been the dumbest theory since "Phone Guy is William because bad ending alternate timeline." so sure, Steel Wool could try to canonize that _if they wanna get lynched...!_
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 you’re talking about a series where a man builds futuristic animatronic suits so they can gather children and harvest their soul energy
I can’t wait for the entire timeline to be entirely changed because of a single line of dialogue in the DLC, making this, and every FNAF lore video wrong.
Damn, this was a great ass video. Not only did you manage to make a comprehensive timeline of events but also brought stuff that has been bothering me for years. Also I am of the belief Afton is still in hell, glitchtrap is just an AI replica of him. That's the only way the ending of FNAF 6 is not ruined since that would mean everyone is resting in peace (except Mike, the poor bastard) and William is still being tortured in hell.
>That's the only way the ending of FNAF 6 is not ruined Except the (actually kind of awful) ending's plan was doomed from the start, and Henry is a fucking moron :V
Yeah, thats the story where a game dev gets so angry at his own game's ai, he forces it to run around for hours without anything to do, and he ends dreaming about said ai (which is suppossed to be a Springtrap model) stabs him in the stomach, and some time after the dream, the dev's stomach starts swelling, til he realizes something is moving around in there, and he gets so desperate to remove it, he literally cuts him self open, revealing the thing in his stomach is a FLESH AND BLOOD, CHILD-SIZED SPRINGTRAP! This is basically example #29 of why we should NOT use the Fazbear Frights book for trying to figure anything out. It opens a door to a room filled with boxes upon boxes of canned worms.
The WWE 2k14 footage was one of the funniest things in this video, reminds me of playing (the atrocious) online and trying to do the most ludicrous spots with friends.
I just really miss the days of FNAF 1-4, the series started falling off after that and never really recovered, theories today are getting more and more ridiculous and I'm glad the fans are actually making spooky content again focusing on the FNAF 1-4 era of creepiness and the story from then.
I work off the idea that William made a Faustian deal with a demon (Nightmare) to become a master of robotics, but after a few years of success the demon came back to tell Will that his success was just a free trial. To keep his success going, he has to pay the demon in human souls or else things will go to hell… Say what you want at least it makes more sense than the current timeline
@@superraptor1086 It can also help explain why the Funtimes are so advanced despite having been built in the 80s: Willy had access to forbidden knowledge which effectively made him the world leader on robotics. As for the Nightmare’s motives, well that’s quite easy: it traps innocent souls in a perpetual limbo state and feeds off their terror, with the animatronics acting as said traps.
@@NoahDaArk I actually really like that a lot. Now you can remove Golden Freddy from UCN and have it be that Hell just opened back up for William after he fell off the deep ends with his killings for the demons to torment him with the very thing they managed to trick him with in the first place: His success.
@@OutOfNameIdeas819 Meanwhile the Nightmare is still roaming around Fazbear Entertainment, starved and desperate to find a new slave to do his dirty work… enter Vanessa. Now why is he taking on the form of a fur suit spring Bonnie? Either as a sign of respect to Afton or as a means to deliver one last mocking blow to his former slave. Take your pick
Are you the Puppet? Because this whole video (especially your crumbling sanity interspersed with clips of Springtrap piling driving Balloon Boy) gives me life.
To be fair, Chica saying she was the first was probably meant to be her way of saying that when the 5 kids went missing, she was the first one that William murdered from the group. Not that she was killed before Charlotte, but that between her, Gabriel, Jeremy, and Fritz, she was first. Edit: I assumed Moon was so aggressive and Sun wasn't because he had security protocols and Sun didn't. Like, Moon might have been in charge of keeping the Daycare kids safe, and Sun was made to just care for kids. Maybe those security protocols gave the virus something to latch onto and crank up to 100 to make them go from "incapacitate threat" to "kill any intruders". But one of the books says that Sun and Moon were originally the hero and villain actors in the Daycare Theater, before they were moved to the Daycare itself. So that could be why too.
Don’t know why they’re so obsessed with bringing William back constantly. He’s not even that captivating of an antagonist. I wish they just kept the animatronics as the main threats. The souls of restless children who were massacred will always have more of an impact.
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The story of FNAF is that Scott Cawthorn really likes driving Mattpat and Markiplier insane.
And money. He really really likes money.
I don't think Markiplier gives 2 shites about FNAF lore
FnaF lore makes anyone and everyone insane.
mark never cared lol
I love the fact that everyone wrotes his name wrong. *Cawthon* It is not "...thorn"
"Some of us are inches from figuring it out! And some of us think Gregory is a robot" That is probably the statement that better summarizes this video
And yet the robot theory is annoying plausible
@@jmurray1110As much as I would hate for Matpat to be right about this one, Id Fantasy's latest video does have me inching closer towards that camp, though I'm still safely 3 miles away from that line. It just feels like a narrative regurgitation to have Michael, Crying Child, and Elizabeth to be around, again.
@@Mike_Dubo I’ll remind you how often William comes back
@@jmurray1110 Don't care for that either. If the Mimic is suppossed to be a thing in Ruin, hopefully it'll take his place, as more of an unrelenting force.
@@Mike_Dubo it’s a lose lose either way
Either William is back or those fucking books matter
My friends, we're gathered here today to pay respect to Jack's sanity, who unfortunately passed away due to the FNAF timeline...
It’s just like the queens music at this time “and anothe one goes”
It happens to most people when going through this franchise
@@CoolerMike not me. I'm a survivor. Because I always come back
It probably died around the time of sister location, whenever that is
It's taken another victim, first MatPat's sanity and now Jack's.
I love the cutaways of WWE Springtrap beating the hell out of an obese child while talking about the murders. Really emphasizes how much child related deaths there is in the franchise.
Then he gets bodied by three Balloon Boys off the ropes like he was a fresh jobber.
@@galaxycamerataTypical Vince, having a fresh guy who *just* got a big push do the J.O.B. to some jobbers. Real sad thing to see, ain't it?
It's so informative
@@MidnightMan04Vince: Listen Springtrap your to popular with the fans so now were gonna make you into a jobber to Roman Reigns 😂
AND SPRINGTRAP WITH AN RKO OUTTA NO WHERE
“What the hell, I’m not even Foxy!”
I don’t know why, but this line got me way harder than I should have.
XD
I mean he wasn’t called foxy bro for nothing
"If Michael is the main character of FNAF 4, why does he have toy robots all over the ground"
Excuse you, it's called collecting Bionicle sets, and it's a very grown-up hobby, have you heard the word of our lord and saviour Mata Nui yet, Jack? Would you like to?
Oh really, you're a bionicle fan?
Name every Mask/s
I read this comment while sorting my bionicle parts... thank you so much this made my day
Bed bath and bionicle is a must listen podcast.
Kidding aside bionicles look like totally something jack would be into
@@DotWat Maybe we can convince him to do a bionicle lore video next.
14:02 "Hit the yoinky-sploinky Freddy, it doesn't matter if you didn't get a childhood." will definitely go down as a quote of all time
its the sheer anger in the line that really sells it for me personally
Vanny and Vanessa being the same person was something that I believed until Freddy said something along the lines of “Vanny sounds like Vanessa and bunny” which is so stupid that they pointed out the obvious connection and didn’t even leave a little room to speculate that I thought they were trying to use reverse psychology. The game’s story is so bad that it’s hard to tell if they’re gaslighting us or not
that or they figured literal babies couldn’t put two and two together
Vanny is short for Vanessa. They're trying so hard to overcomplicate this
@@genericname2747 I know that Vanny and Vanessa are the same person and I did before the game came out but when the way Freddy pointed it out made it so obviously a red herring that for a bit I categorized it as evidence that the two were separated because no one who actually attempted to write a well thought out story would ever write a line like that unless they were stupid or trying to trick you… Steel Wool is just stupid
@@sunthorn4782 I mean, you say that but there is also the fire escape ending where Vanessa can be seen on top of the Pizzaplex right after Vanny was thrown off of it... some people say it's a ghost, some people say that it's proof that they're two different people, short answer is that it's unclear... that might as well be the catchphrase for the entire series at this point.
@@lukasruston8618 I knew I remembered there being a weird complication that was the main reason I thought they weren't the same person! Thanks for reminding me.
I was like "no the reason people don't believe they are the same was something way more obvious than a lack of blood but I don't remember, despite that I remember it being so obvious I'm surprised you missed it"
“Can you carry remnant in a bucket?”
And in under 10 words, I have lost any sliver of hope that scott actually has a timeline in his head.
@@billcipher3180 honestly i thought everyone just got over it by now
@@veganmeatball6780oh trust me these kinda people will hold a grudge over people they’ll never meet in their life for centuries, I bet most people who are angry at Scott probably wouldn’t be affected by his decisions in the slightest
Though the answer is yes
"Dark Springtrap" is still the single stupidest thing in this franchise.
The books have a LOT of stupid shit, but the fact that Funko just looked at a silhouette of Springtrap in a cutscene, called it "Dark Springtrap" and made a funko, and that, somehow, that's CANON? THAT is the peak of stupidity.
Whoever decided that Willy charred black, crispy and dying counted as a Clipped Wing Angel form is gonna be involuntarily donated to science when they die, so we can study their brain to figure out where it all went so wrong.
Admittedly, I do like the idea of whenever weird obscure stuff that's more based on mistakes than actual canon can be pretty cool when done well, one example being Starline form the Sonic IDW comics being based on the "Wechnia" from Sonic Chaotix.
This though? This ain't it.
@@DeltaOdyssey Like Scourge and Surge that were based on the Asura Glitch!
Daniel and cooler Daniel energy
Disagree dark springtrap is peak
Fnaf 1-4 was a nice vase. Sister Location accidentally bumped into the vase and it fell on the floor, getting cracked in the process. Pizzaria Sim and UCN came and sealed up the cracks with paste. The vase is now a little bit uglier than before but it’s still fine it works.
Help Wanted then came in with a hammer. Then Security Breach was hired to make a brand new vase but instructions were mixed up and we ended up with a plate.
Does this metaphor make sense? No? Well good, it represents the fnaf storyline perfectly then.
this is brilliant
Makes more sense than the FNAF storyline.
What? Who said that?
No but I totally agree, though I think lorewise the game fell off with the release of 4, but FFPS and UCN did in fact seal up the cracks. It was cleaned up the best it could be. And if Help Wanted had stuck with being a VR experience without adding new lore (maybe clarifying previous lore would've been cool, but Glitchtrap is…stupid), it would've been perfect. A nice little bow to wrap up the gift of the franchise.
Alas.
if by "came and sealed up the cracks with paste." you mean "further smashed the vase bits into oblivion" then your analogy would actually be accurate
Oh no, I'd say that Security Breach was more of a woodchipper into make a plate with the powder and that disgusting apple core from centuries ago on it because fuck continuity i guess
@@GoodGirlLuna3 that was already ffps
The line 'Micheal is physically purple, William is just morally purple' sent me for no reason
Came for the punch out people being criminals, stayed because Jack is funny as hell
Same
Came for the TF2 war crimes, stayed because Jack is funny as hell
@@Znae629 same
Same
William Afton went from "slightly silly but grounded deranged child murderer" to just Master fucking Xehanort
he keeps coming back, he planned for literally everything despite being dead for much of this series, he takes multiple vessels and followers into his evil schemes, etc etc
if the next FNAF game is about WIlliam Afton inventing time travel to vibe check even more children and make sure his younger self knows how to vibe check them in the future i'm taking someone hostage
Oh God would that mean that Michael is Sora or something in this analogy?
@@kreatona4219 i guess
how many canon Michaels are there?
@@Vee_Sheep there's him as a normal human, him as a purple husk, and he COULD be Glamrock Freddy (though I really fucking hope not)
Purple guy norted Vanessa.
@@Vee_Sheep There is one Michael. He was a human, then a corpse, then possibly a ghost in Glamrock Freddy. But only one.
The better question is how many canon Jeremys there are.
Jeremy in the books (1)
Jeremy, the missing children's incident victim (2)
Jeremy, Fitzgerald, the widely accepted Bite of '87 victim (3)
And finally, Jeremy, that dude that sliced his face off to escape Glitchtrap, who is...AI? Ghost? I don't know anymore...
18:40
i like the idea that the minigames are also caused by michael hallucinating while low on oxygen
springtrap is walking in circles following noises while michael is punching the wall over and over trying to put in a code
Springtrap makes something happen just so Micheal will stop punching walls
Honestly, i love the fact that Ooftroop's timeline also featured that EXACT gag...
micheal afton being a raging schizo is my headcanon now
William taking over the Blob was not something I considered but it makes too much sense.
They should add Donkey Kong to FNAF, he would definitely kill William Afton for good
I can’t believe Donkey King ding dong’d Afton off the top of the stage at the end of Security Breach 2. That story leak was crazy.
I mean DK is strong enough to punch the moon, I don't have any better ideas ATM.
If Willy does take over the Blob, it'll no doubt result in The Agony from the Fazbear Frights books becoming canon in the games...
Sometimes it feels so strange how little control of the story afton actually has despite it being pretty much ABOUT him. Things just happen to him that happen to be beneficial or fail to impede him. After killing the kids, he got stuck in the springlock suit and became immortal. He then got trapped for 30 years in a backroom which pretty much is never brought up in the games even though this is probably one of the only times that someone actually succeeded at 'stopping' Afton. He then got released at random, burned alive a few days later, wasn't hindered at all, got lured into another place where he got burned again, only to be brought back as an AI and become even stronger again, again without him plotting anything, he possessed the two testers, one of the only things he actually intentionally did for the longest time, then after getting himself back into his old suit, for some reason, gets beaten by a kid and immediately gets eaten by the blob and inevitably will become more powerful again.
Afton is in so little control of his own rise to power he's not even a villain by this point, he's just a lucky guy who's trying to pretend like he knows what he's doing.
It's the very definition of "failing upwards".
>only to be brought back as an AI
...to spite a pissed off child ghost who wanted to do the "30 year hell" thing again, but longer (it wasnt)*
And yeah, pretty much. Peepaw Willy accidentally stumbles into another situation after he became a Furry
A cosmic plaything that believes he's a puppet master.
Real lucky to be trapped in agonizing pain for 30 years and then some
Well now we know Burntrap/possibly other incarnations of Springtrap weren't Afton but a heretofore unknown animatronic called the Mimic so it's even more all kinds of confusing.
"Morally purple."
Also, yeah, if Michael was self aware of who he is while posessing Glamrock Daddy, "what the hell I'm not even Foxy" is legitimately something he'd say at some point and that's as hilarious as it is stupid.
please for the love of all that is still holy in this hellish world NEVER utter the term "Glamrock Daddy" again
this is probably the most concise way the FNAF timeline is ever going to be explained
I agree, but a youtuber named Wendigoon made a video about the entire storyline of fnaf up to pizza simulator and it's really good too
@@sleepybeef2412 haven't heard of them
@@lavenzavantas They make content related to real life events, conspiracy theories, and horror media stuff like fnaf :)
(also, based pfp)
@@sleepybeef2412 not my thing, but glad they have public (also thanks)
HOW THE FUCK DO I ALWAYS FIND YOU WHAT
Can’t believe you forgot the most important FNAF character…
old/withered Aran Ryan
"NOOOOOO- wait which one?"
"Elizabeth"
"NOOOOOOOOO"
cracked me up
13:01 When the first FNAF came out, I always just chalked the Bite of 87 as one of those company public embarrassments. Just some term that blue collar workers throw around, like "The outage back in May" or "The flooding of '03". Never really considered it more important than just suggesting the animatronics are known dangers.
But the burgeoning fandom had little to no lore at the time, so naturally they clung unto what little there was and tried to make em out to be the biggest things ever. So naturally Scott just ended up going along with it and giving em what they wanted.
They took a simple noodle incident and turned it into full-blown spaghetti.
I agree with this sentiment. I feel like the bite was just meant to be a spoopy event that made the pizzaria scary and it got blown out of proportion
I see what you mean, like the Sleigh Crash or '87 from Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas. Or was it '97... or '94?
One of the biggest problems with FNAF's timeline is that it's actually. Four timelines. Because it essentially got soft-reset thrice. Once by FNAF 4, once by Sister Location, and then once the torch got passed over to Steel Wool Studios.
When Scott made FNAF 1, there was no overarching story, it was just a game with a defined setting and a hidden story about murdered children hidden in rare in-game events. Nothing too complicated, and he didn't expect it to become that big of a hit. It became a *HUGE* hit. So he made FNAF 2, and when he made FNAF 2 he actively had FNAF 3 in mind as a finale. One story with a beginning, middle, and end. FNAF 1's hidden lore established the murders, FNAF 2 gave us a glimpse at the killer, and FNAF 3 both showed his death and had you face him down yourself to end him for good (or did you?). And that was the end of the story, one complete package.
But then people didn't like FNAF 3's death jumpscare.
So Scott, disappointed, made FNAF 4, then subtitled The Final Chapter, with the nightmare animatronics, and an audio-based survival gameplay to get you in prime position to get jumpscared. And in FNAF 4's minigames, judging by Scott's cryptic hints during MatPat's streams, was meant to re-contextualize all of the others in one way or another. Whether you choose to believe it or not, taking only the first 4 games into consideration, Dream Theory (FNAF 1-3 were all the dreams of a scared child) actually seems like it was a very reasonable theory at the time. For example, "Why would the toy Chica be missing her beak?" That implies that the reason Toy Chica in FNAF 2 has no beak when she's chasing you is because the child saw it on the playground and it entered his nightmares.
But Scott wasn't happy with some elements of FNAF 4 so he made Sister Location which retconned all of that previous implication from 4 into making everything in the series definitively true, and also hijacking concepts from the (then) new FNAF novel, The Silver Eyes, into canon. This is where Afton got his name from. Though the actual events of the novel trilogy itself isn't canon, the concept introduced there-in, such as Remnant, are, putting it in a really weird semi-canon state. Sister Location was marketed as being a separate, new storyline. But it wasn't. And it turned the killer from a mysterious unknown child-murderer to an evil mad scientist.
People didn't really like the new hard sci-fi direction it took the series.
So Scott kinda retreated into hiding for a little over a year while he developed Pizzeria Simulator in near-total secrecy, shadow-dropping it disguised as a really cheap-looking free old-timey style game which quickly shed the facade into being the proper finale to the timeline. Pizza Sim's story did a lot of hard work in course-correcting what happened with Sister Location and tying up all the loose ends, and has the absolute best piece of story content in the series with its true ending.
Ultimate Custom Night was originally meant to simply be a custom night DLC for Pizzeria Simulator but the project grew so large that Scott decided to make it into its own separate thing. It was a cute epilogue send-off as Afton suffers in his own personal hell for all eternity.
But then Scott passed the IP off to Steel Wool Studios who hard-soft-reset the timeline entirely but I'm less familiar with their work and I'm getting tired from typing but. Yeah, Steel Wool could have taken the story in such an interesting direction if they'd focused on someone truly new, a story of corporate greed not being willing to let go of the past. But in servicing the brand they just can't let go of the past.
Yeah I think this is the only sane way to look at the series. Scott's "vision" for the story changed rapidly from game to game and he's admitted this himself.
FNAF 1 to FNAF 3 - "The Purple Guy" story
FNAF 4 - Crying Child's story, "Dream" Theory (The box was definitely something to support dream theory but was scrapped because ending a multi-million dollar franchise on "it was all a dream lol" would have been super disappointing.)
Sister Location, Pizzeria Simulator, and UCN - The "Afton" story
FNAF VR + Security Breach - Tried to set up the "Vanny" story as a new villain which would have been cool but fucked it up by relying on William Afton again.
So basically in other words: the Halloween franchise or the leather face franchise
@@Kurtlen it’s honestly why when working on this fnaf vhs storyline that I’ve brainstormed and worked on the costume for almost a whole entire year… I wanna make sure the fnaf story I’m making is planned out and understandable in a sense while complex and filled with mystery while being engaging.
For a bit I was thinking to maybe keep the aftons and fredbears family diner but I rethought on some things and think it’s better to do a “Blum house Halloween trilogy” if that makes sense. Basicallt reboot the whole dang story and have the events only connect to the first game, but build off of it and make a whole new story that’s also inspired by the rest of the franchise while doing its own thing. Hoping for the first episode I’ve been working on comes out by April
I mainly am saying this cuz well, as frustrating as the fnaf lore can be as well as frustrating and sometimes hits hard at you seeing everybody else’s frustration on the franchise that it makes you sometimes question on your love of the series, it has so much material that it could actually make many good au’s (with Scott even making some of his own)
Main thing I’m hoping is when I finish one of the costumes for the project of mine, that people could feel that it’s kinda a celebration of bonnie and animatronics, including the slight uncanny factor
You've done really well documenting all of this, but I'd just like to point out one thing regarding the passing of the torch onto SW studios: SW have said in an interview (I believe it was Dawko's) that they were not in charge of the story. Or at the very least, Scott had them implementing things that they had NO idea how it connected to the story. (An example of this being the room with the SL TV and the cryptic message).
Perhaps now that Scott has retired he's completely hands off of the story. But when Help Wanted rebooted the series, it was Scott's story still then. He chose to reboot the canon again in order to fit what the VR game was going for, instead of just letting it be it's own thing.
If anyone has extra info in that though feel free to say because that's pretty much the extent of my knowledge regarding it.
Admittedly, important to note...
>But then Scott passed the IP off to Steel Wool Studios who hard-soft-reset the timeline entirely but I'm less familiar with their work and I'm getting tired from typing but. Yeah, Steel Wool could have taken the story in such an interesting direction if they'd focused on someone truly new, a story of corporate greed not being willing to let go of the past. But in servicing the brand they just can't let go of the past.
He actually DOES still retain total control as far as the Lore goes. He signs off on pretty much every decision more or less.
And to add, Silver Eyes WAS meant to be paired with FNAF SL. Both of which at the same time introducing several new concepts, though the book of course went much deeper...
And as Scott put it more or less, Books 100% Canon, completely different Continuity.
Now the Fazbear Frights series... there's definitely elements of Important Lore, and even Parallels, but it's FAR reduced from the Trilogy series.
Given the fact we've never seen how William killed people I chose to take this video as fact and believe old Willy went WWE on kids and brought a steel chair to Cassidy and crew
To double-down on the Wily analogy, Afton goes from being Wily in the classic games to just flat-out being Sigma by Security Breach.
I was gonna say he's more Weil by Security Breach, being essentially a corpse kept intact by a robotic body. Now whether or not his story will end with him fusing with a doomsday weapon to drop it on Utah, I can't say
More specifically x3 Sigma, since his new body is made by someone he posessed
Im callin it now. Hes gonna be a biometal by fnaf 10.
@@timthornton759 ...sonofabitch there's even a Model A in ZX Advent
When can he be Ninja Wily?
I like to think William never got married and that each of his children were the products of various one night stands because Afton's FazGoo is very fertile.
thanks i hate it
@@higueraft571 you’re welcome >;)
Okay but was William the pregnant one?
Remember back when it was just the phone guy might be the purple guy, and that for some reason people said the purple guy’s name might be Vincent
And Vincent liked toast
he may have gone insane covering the timeline but god damn Jack knows how to cook a pizza
Eh, _does_ he? All I saw him put on it was sauce and cheese. Do people really eat completely toppingless pizza?
@@Nyahahameha Yeah, some people eat cheese pizza I think
I do, plain cheese is pretty good
I also eat plaim cheese
Huh. Well I guess I learned something from all this.
Scenes such as “afton manages to get them in a back room and give them all pile drivers” made me laugh a lot, just seeing springtrap vs random kids doing the specific moves
I remember once I asked my friend if they understood the FNAF storyline and they responded with "there's a storyline?" I have never been so envious of a person's lack of knowledge in my life.
That bit with mike walking down the street has gotta be the funniest fnaf-related thing i have ever seen
“Sister location made him dr wily”
That’s actually true nowadays considering in most of his appearances he’s always a villain
Not a FNAF fan but the Sister Location advanced technology paradox sounds similar to Metal Gear Sahlenthropus existing before REX.
The only good explanation for how the SL animatronics can exist when they do is if somehow, someway, Willie got access to knowledge he was never supposed to have
Yeah it's like how advance of zeta mobile suits and the rest of the horsemen despite being prototypes not only look way more advanced than their in series counterparts but also like the only thing more advanced than them in the entirety of universal century is unicorn. I get it though you can want do a prequel but not want to lower the stakes. At least advance of zeta is like a spinoff and not mainline tho lol
“Hit the yoinky sploinky, Freddy. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t get a childhood” best moment of this video.
Charles Lee Ray- main antagonist of the Child's Play/Chucky series- has gone from a serial murderer who used a long voodoo chant to possess a doll as he was dying so he could keep on murdering people only for the doll body to turn more human as he spends time in it and can only be killed by having his heart destroyed, to someone who has mastered voodoo from a website and can use a much shorter chant to split his soul and possess a whole army of the same kind of doll body with no ramifications to himself, bodies which can be killed by other means besides having their heart destroyed even when they make no sense compared to some other shit they go through and survive(decapitation doesn't work but strangulation does I guess), and is so crazy prepared for anything that he had his therapist who became his accomplice when he was a child prepare a doll body for him to possess in a safe in her office as WELL as one that he had already possessed and perfectly disguised as the same kind of doll he forced his ex-girlfriend/wife into after he killed her and had given to an extremely impressionable and probably autistic little girl he whispered to as a doll JUST so that, after he decided he really wants to kill her for real this time because she betrayed him to the cops on the night he died for the first time, he can have her take the girl and the disguised doll away from the protagonists of the series and foil her attempt to possess the doll he's already taken up residence in so he can get the drop on her and kill her except not really because no way the show's going to kill one of the most beloved characters in the franchise as the resolution to a cliffhanger.
And that STILL isn't as stupid as all the shit that went on with Willy Aftface because at least it's self-aware about how fucking absurd it's gotten.
Oh yeah, I didn’t even mention when his exorcised soul possessed one of the guys involved with the exorcism and made him _explode_ by sheer force of will. Like I said, they know how ridiculous it’s gotten and have fun with it.
Horror Villains are notoriously hard to take seriously if they're reoccuring.
Myers had an incest baby with his niece, Jason went to Manhattan and Space, Sadako went from "7 Days" to being a canonical TH-camr and a victim of self-aware mutant smallpox who just wants to be a popstar.
Funny enough I'd say Sadako is the closest to Willy A than anything else.
They both made people give birth to clones, both keep getting weird powers every time they come back, both for some reason have now used computers even after death for google/youtube, and both at some point went completely digital (VR for Afton, Sadako went full "the universe is literally a simulation and I am in control")
You either die on your first or second outing, or you become an absolute gag of a character that nobody takes seriously. You might recover a little with a really good reboot, but you'll fall back within 2-3 outings.
Sometimes they reboot and the reboot is immediately impossible to take seriously.
So basically any long running horror franchise can get really ridiculous.
@@ouch9129 wait I'm sorry what
Not to mention he's anatomically correct and has a canonical british, gender fluid child who escaped his abusive puppet master that literally named him "Shit Face."
Remember when the story used to be “A man murdered five kids and those same kids now possess the animatronics” and that was all?
I will give FNAF this, it fully encapsulates the downfall most relevant long running horror move franchises go through. Starts off as a new, fresh IP with all sorts of iconic mystery, characters and horror, faffs about slowly being consumed by its own weight of it's own branding and iconography, looses the plot of the kind of story it was even telling in the first place as the creator waffles between new idea after new idea each entry, manages to have it's come to jesus moment around its presumed final chapter(no, not the fourth one) meant to cap things off once and for all before essentially rebooting itself and carrying on, basically spitting in the face of everything that came before for the sake of keeping the franchise going because much like its iconic antagonist we can't just let this shambling undead spirit rest.
Not quite
This one went to space twice
I love the fact that in some parts of the video, spring trap is absolutely decimating children in a WWE ring and it’s fucking hilarious
Seriously, having William Afton come back as a digital apparition all because some incompetent game devs scanned his corpse because of time crunch is The Batman Who Laughs-levels of stupid!
after the hit that was "which punch out character is the biggest cheater?" and "which tf2 mercenire commited the most warcrimes?" we need "which fnaf animatronic commited the most felonies?
Springtrap, 100%.
@@higueraft571 Bonnie, literally defies the laws of physics.
The mf canonically teleports.
It's not a felony but still.
Metaphysical law?
The kid just getting slammed into the ground every few minutes or so in wrestlemania broke me
edit: oh my god the kids beating the shit out of springwhatever im done
14:43 "Morally Purple" sounds like the name of a mid 2000's emo band.
I don't know how this guy just NAILS the delivery of every single line to make it ten times as funny. Love this kind of content so much.
I just wanted to say thank you for being funny in your videos. Ive been going through bad things recently and your videos can still make me laugh while also distracting me
Keep your head up buddy. I know you're gonna come out fine
Thank you
@@captinciyro1503 how are you doing?
@@bumblesmcfumbles Now that's a nice touch. Glad to know you're in our corner
I'm doing very well now @bumblesmcfumbles. I really wish I would get notifs for these.
"Am I in Hell? Purgatory?.. Chicago?"
Not even 15 seconds in and I'm already laughing. Never change and keep up the good work man🔥🔥
"What the hell! I'm not even Foxy"
I laughed so hard 💀
I feel like the single quote “does that make sense? The correct answer is no” describes 99% of FNAF lore
This line paired with that image of Freddy is so underrated
"Umm Actually"
Action Park IS still around. They rebranded three times, the second time BACK to action park in like... 2014-2016, when I visited it, and now they are Mountain Creek Water Park. So, it's not impossible for "death entertainment" to still be in operation, especially if it is just different companies buying the rights to the name.
It's funny, of all the FNAF summaries on the internet, the one that's just a guy ranting and complaining while giving a basic summary is one of the most followable
Consider:
Ooftroop's timeline
I appreciate what you said about Afton in how no one knows his goals. Some people see him as a sympathetic villain trying to get his kids back, when that is just insane considering he is so willing to murder other children to do it.
That whole “I’ll put you back together” really messed up Afton as a character by turning him into a confusing mess. All he needed to be was a child murderer, literally the worst thing a person could be. It makes FNAF 3s ending a perfect ironic ending for a truly evil villain.
Then FNAF 4 comes in and suddenly he’s humanized, like we should feel bad for him. That is so unsatisfying, and it really detracts from the impact of the previous games ending. Then FNAF 5 comes, and it confuses things even more by making him some kind of super genius with a group of robots that kill children for… some reason??? It’s never explained why he needs to kill more children, at least in an obvious way. For remnant? Why does he need it? For immortality? Is he still trying to bring his kids back? What the hell does he want??? WHAT is his MOTIVATION??? NO ONE KNOWS!
Tldr, I miss when Afton was just a mysterious evil child murderer and that’s it. No children, no overly complex family drama, just an absolutely horrible purple monster.
I actually don't. Just because he has motives and is somewhat sympathetic, doesn't mean we're supposed to feel sorry for him. My take of him, he is sympathetic, but he never really was a good person.
@@Jedi-ge6lr that’s fine, but I prefer the old purple murderer before he had a name
fr if he needed dead kids he could just hang around a pediatric hospital's hospice wing
@@sunnyisabunny1479 Hell, if some theories about SB are true, then he manipulated and threatened his own children so he could get them to make his wife look bad during their divorce case.
How a promising villain turning…lame is a major point of interest for me, and I think the way you describe William is on the money. He’s not scary anymore, his status as someone who gets revived and humiliated and revived again is something that damages him both in-universe and out-of-universe.
When Sister Location was initially a “fully fresh start”, Ennard felt like a far more fresh and distinctly “Sci-Fi” villain character(s) with tons of potential for various new forms and gameplay mechanics, and he was *literally* thrown into the garbage. He was done dirty in the grand scheme of things, like the shadow animatronics, and the puppet, and Baby, and most likely the Security Breach peeps like the Daycare Attendant and Vanessa.
Probably one of the reasons why FNAF has a freakish amount of fan content surrounding it is because the “real” storyline and characters are a trainwreck. It’s the Sonic situation of the fans making more satisfying and coherent stories and characters than what the official people give us.
I hope you get to review/discuss something you ENJOY sooner or later, man. Nice work.
Yeah Afon when from a semi-realistic serial killer villain to that demon that really annoying because it refuse to take a lose as an option.
Trying to make a ganondarf villain(a villain refused to die and keeps coming back )on your series isn’t usually a good idea.
I mean, the two videos before the last one were about things he enjoyed.
I'm betting on Ultrakill Act 2 as his next video
I totally agree with how Ennard should've been the main villain going forwards; Afton should've died in Fnaf 3 and Ennard should've been the villain from then onwards. Just as proof of this; the Incident Logs fan project shows just how creepy and terrifying Ennard could've been; it can come from anywhere and considering the absolute mess of souls within its body, it acts more like a feral beast than a calculating killer which I feel would've been a perfect replacement for Afton after Fnaf 3.
@@starmaker75Well, Ganondorf makes far more sense for an action-fantasy series where several of the same characters end up being reincarnated, not JUST him. The Link from one game is the descendant of Link from some other game.
Plus, I don’t recall Demise ever saying “THIS time, I want to bring him back in a goddamn USB drive!”.
I don’t know or care if this accurate, I just found this hilarious, especially to listen to while working
This was a delightful counterbalance to the insanely over serious game theory timeline, well done as always
I suggest Ooftroop's timeline :V
@@higueraft571 the only correct timeline
THANK YOU FOR REFERRING TO GOLDEN FREDDY AS SPRING FREDDY
I'm not saying it's more correct than golden Fred or anything, I just like the name symmetry better
Since Arkham Knight got mentioned, I went in with no spoilers and didn't know Jason Todd was the Arkham Knight going in. Then I looked in the extras menu and saw that there were Jason Todd costumes I could unlock for him so I got spoiled that way.
My personal theory about T H E B O X is that there's nothing in it. There was never anything in it.
This isn't a lore thing tho, it's just that Scott probably didn't know what to have in it, and rather then, you know, put something in it, he just got disappointed in the community about something and fixed that problem for himself by never opening the box because of it.
Dark Springtrap (Full Power) (Delusion Unleashed) (Enrage Timer Active) (On His Last Health Bar for Thirty Years)
Guess what!? Shifting into the Virtual Reality of the FNAF Matrix, through using the Vanny Mask, as a means of getting through solid objects and even *teleporting* through the physical world USING the Digital One, is now canon to FNAF!
Remember when this franchise so simple and down to Earth, Mat Pat give a play by play visual recreation of the Real Life deaths of Chucky Cheese Employees, to explain that he thought FNAF was based off that?
You're finally going to tackle this beast, huh? You're going to break down the most convoluted, in depth lore in the history of gaming since _Kingdom Hearts._ The game MatPat pretty much built his career off of. Well, it was nice knowing you, Jack.
Don't lose hope. If anyone can survive it, Jack can.
I think he survived... barely.
Clearly you haven't heard of Kirby lore
The game he pretty much built his career on? This game IS his career. And it shows considering how much of a nose dive he took after the game's relevance dried up.
If you think that's a tangled mess of a story, just wait til we get to Metal Gear!
In an odd way jack managed to make the most sense among everyone of the FNAF community. Including and not hard to beat. MatPat...
What about Ooftroop? Smh
I love the new UCN canon ending of William Afton moonwalking himself out of Hell while flipping the double bird to Golden Freedy and everyone you added Bumbles
Having now returned to this after thr recent lore reveal of "Oh, Glitch and Burntrap aren't actually William. They're actually in reality just and AI built in *whenever the first one in the timeline took place* that watched the murders and is now mimicking them along with William." This has gotten even more funny.
The lore of FNAF is more difficult to piece together than the parts of Norse mythology that were Christianized.
only if you don't care enough to even try
which I imagine most people here don't because they only see this franchise as a joke
@@corporalregicide5248 I mean... Which franchise that killed his main villain thrice only to bring him back again and again isn't a joke? At least Dragon Ball change villain once in a while
@@leonel392 I'm just gonna say it
I don't think William coming back is as much as an issue as people like to think it is
especially since it ties into FNAFs themes
@@corporalregicide5248 FNaF themes? I thought the theme was about scary guy that we are trying to defeat, not a fucking Phoenix-man that comes back from the ashes every time we burn him down, so, the villain is pathetic, the games (even if it is controversial) are pathetic and the fanbase is even more pathetic. What good is left in this franchise? The Funko Pops?
@@leonel392 I mean the themes are there again
you just need to give enough of a shit to find them
because believe me, it's possible, I've done it
and i used to be a lot like you in terms of attitude
Ok but Fredbear/Nightmare being manifestations of Michael's guilt is actually raw as hell and is now what I believe thank you
"Am in hell? Purgatory? Chicago"
I thought you lived in Slamtown USA living next door to Cool Dad Don Crenshaw.
“Does that make sense? The correct answer… is no.”
haha I don’t think there is a better summary of the FNAF lore
“That hasn’t happened yet, but I’m so certain it will I’ll treat it as fact” is a great way to futureproof the ending of any fnaf game
"If it's not for me anymore.... That's fine"
I hate how nobody is talking about that.
Most reviewers really harp in on negatives, and he does too, but there's always some regret in there.
The man wants what he's talking about to be good, it just isn't
"What the hell, I'm not even foxy"
-everyone who has been isekai into an animationic
banger of a video, jack, i giggled and tee hee'd a lot
also this definitely helped me understand the lore a lot more after the clusterfuck of a call we all had trying to put together the pieces of this godforsaken series-
Five months later, and now apparently ScrapTrap was actually just a yandre cosplayer.
That is not me phrasing things wierldly that is literally what the Mimic is. I refuse to accept any other view.
About the whole why the Daycare Attendant has a murder mode thing. In a supreme case of stuffing details on books so they can make more money off them. In Tales From the Pizzaplex book #5 it's stated that he was originally the main attraction of the theater next door. Sun was the good guy, Moon was the bad guy. Eventually due to people quitting on mass. They just said "Fuck it, let's put this random ass animatronic not ment for this job in the daycare." They just didn't take out the Moon part for whichever reason because uhh Fazcorp cheap funny I geuss?
I like how they bothered explaining all of that, but still didn't explain WHY Moon kills people. Like, was Moon killing people on stage??
@@genericname2747 I'll take the L one this one if I'm wrong (like we're even going the get an answer lmao) I believe it's more or less implied that the the SB animatronics don't kill you if the jumpscare you. They capture you and take you to Vanny. But who fucking knows at this point.
@@ThatPearlKid I want to believe that Moon just grabs you and throws you into a sleeping bag, and refuses to let you leave until you get a goods night sleep.
@@ThatPearlKid >They capture you and take you to Vanny. But who fucking knows at this point.
I know.
*PILEDRIVER.*
*Oh shit here comes Vanny with the Steel Chair*
That’s the best explanation they could muster up and it still sucks lmfaoooooo
At this point, especially after the new info from the books, (fuck the books, all my homies hate the books) I have decided, much like Scott cawthon, that canon is whatever I feel like that day
Me too, for me Fnaf 4 has and will ever have the Bite of 87, Mimic is just an failed Animatronic from Henry and Glitchtrap and Burntrap is still Afton
The "Michael situation" never made sense to me at all, but I read a TH-cam comment once that explained it just a bit:
After Michael got scooped, he was used as a costume for the amalgamation called ennard, once his body wasn't useful anymore ennard escaped, technically, this means Michael's body was a animatronic suit for a while, because it carried ennard inside of him for a long time. So Michael, in the chaddest move in the entire series, probably decided to *HAUNT HIS OWN DEAD BODY* to revive himself.... So the Michael we see from this point onwards is just the ghost of Michael haunting his own corpse...
That still doesn't makes sense, but it's better than nothing
I can easily see in like 8 to 12 years steel wool doing an interview and they admit that Gregory is a robot, but after the backlash, they decide to scrap any future plans of it
Like Scott with his Dream Theory of "FNAF 1-3 were only a dream"? :V
@@higueraft571 yes
Android Gregory has been the dumbest theory since "Phone Guy is William because bad ending alternate timeline." so sure, Steel Wool could try to canonize that _if they wanna get lynched...!_
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 you’re talking about a series where a man builds futuristic animatronic suits so they can gather children and harvest their soul energy
I can’t wait for the entire timeline to be entirely changed because of a single line of dialogue in the DLC, making this, and every FNAF lore video wrong.
2:09 Saying Scott Cawthon has answers is a BOLD claim.
Damn, this was a great ass video. Not only did you manage to make a comprehensive timeline of events but also brought stuff that has been bothering me for years. Also I am of the belief Afton is still in hell, glitchtrap is just an AI replica of him. That's the only way the ending of FNAF 6 is not ruined since that would mean everyone is resting in peace (except Mike, the poor bastard) and William is still being tortured in hell.
>That's the only way the ending of FNAF 6 is not ruined
Except the (actually kind of awful) ending's plan was doomed from the start, and Henry is a fucking moron :V
Nice. Mentioning that Afton had that "go away" heat made me subscribe
The most sane explanation of the fnaf lore
This video is my new comfort video
I thought I was the only one who loves to revisit this video to comfort me when this franchise gets under my skin lmao
I love listening to him rant
Wait, male impregnation?
What does the most logically questionable fetish...?!
Yeah, thats the story where a game dev gets so angry at his own game's ai, he forces it to run around for hours without anything to do, and he ends dreaming about said ai (which is suppossed to be a Springtrap model) stabs him in the stomach, and some time after the dream, the dev's stomach starts swelling, til he realizes something is moving around in there, and he gets so desperate to remove it, he literally cuts him self open, revealing the thing in his stomach is a FLESH AND BLOOD, CHILD-SIZED SPRINGTRAP!
This is basically example #29 of why we should NOT use the Fazbear Frights book for trying to figure anything out. It opens a door to a room filled with boxes upon boxes of canned worms.
The WWE 2k14 footage was one of the funniest things in this video, reminds me of playing (the atrocious) online and trying to do the most ludicrous spots with friends.
Screw the lore, I just look up p0rn of the animatronics.
I just really miss the days of FNAF 1-4, the series started falling off after that and never really recovered, theories today are getting more and more ridiculous and I'm glad the fans are actually making spooky content again focusing on the FNAF 1-4 era of creepiness and the story from then.
Now that you day it.
A lot of fnaf fangames are based on the og series of 1 through 4 (and also ffps).
I surely wonder why \s
The story is so bad fans have to take it into their own hands 🤕 @flow185
Ya know what? I waited so long for this video it can replace Christmas this year.
I don't think I've ever had so much fun watching a FNaF timeline. Well done man... Well done. 🤣
Imagine being the manager of one of the pizzerias and the new employee you hired is a rotten corpse
Ehh doesnt smell any different from our animatronics
I'm sorry but I was really distracted for the rest of the video after seeing you dice the onion without peeling it.
So long as theorists and Scott Cawthon keep smoking crack while coming up with ideas, we may never get a concise timeline of Fnaf events.
I work off the idea that William made a Faustian deal with a demon (Nightmare) to become a master of robotics, but after a few years of success the demon came back to tell Will that his success was just a free trial. To keep his success going, he has to pay the demon in human souls or else things will go to hell…
Say what you want at least it makes more sense than the current timeline
@@NoahDaArk this is a very unique take on Williams motives,and a very cool take on who(and what) is Nightmare,i like it a lot!
@@superraptor1086 It can also help explain why the Funtimes are so advanced despite having been built in the 80s: Willy had access to forbidden knowledge which effectively made him the world leader on robotics.
As for the Nightmare’s motives, well that’s quite easy: it traps innocent souls in a perpetual limbo state and feeds off their terror, with the animatronics acting as said traps.
@@NoahDaArk I actually really like that a lot. Now you can remove Golden Freddy from UCN and have it be that Hell just opened back up for William after he fell off the deep ends with his killings for the demons to torment him with the very thing they managed to trick him with in the first place: His success.
@@OutOfNameIdeas819 Meanwhile the Nightmare is still roaming around Fazbear Entertainment, starved and desperate to find a new slave to do his dirty work… enter Vanessa.
Now why is he taking on the form of a fur suit spring Bonnie? Either as a sign of respect to Afton or as a means to deliver one last mocking blow to his former slave. Take your pick
This storyline is the epitome of "I'll just make things up as I go along."
glamrock Freddy being Michael is dumb, obviously, but I kinda love the idea of Micheal as Foxy, ironic, like Grampa Willie and the yellow rabbit
23:53 Thanks to this video i discovered how to cut onions properly, thank you Jack
This was just a simple game series... AND THEN THE BOOKS GO INTO MALE PREGANCY, TIME TRAVEL AND FAZGOO
Tying to make a cohesive story out of FNaF lore is like dumping out the contents of a paper shredder and calling it a jigsaw puzzle.
Every line in this is golden, hit after hit
Are you the Puppet? Because this whole video (especially your crumbling sanity interspersed with clips of Springtrap piling driving Balloon Boy) gives me life.
To be fair, Chica saying she was the first was probably meant to be her way of saying that when the 5 kids went missing, she was the first one that William murdered from the group. Not that she was killed before Charlotte, but that between her, Gabriel, Jeremy, and Fritz, she was first.
Edit: I assumed Moon was so aggressive and Sun wasn't because he had security protocols and Sun didn't. Like, Moon might have been in charge of keeping the Daycare kids safe, and Sun was made to just care for kids. Maybe those security protocols gave the virus something to latch onto and crank up to 100 to make them go from "incapacitate threat" to "kill any intruders". But one of the books says that Sun and Moon were originally the hero and villain actors in the Daycare Theater, before they were moved to the Daycare itself. So that could be why too.
Don’t know why they’re so obsessed with bringing William back constantly. He’s not even that captivating of an antagonist. I wish they just kept the animatronics as the main threats. The souls of restless children who were massacred will always have more of an impact.
"Popular TH-cam content creator has a mental breakdown over the existence of FNAF Sister location"
im not popular come on man
@@bumblesmcfumbles I know but Its better than saying "Not very well known youtuber"
@@bumblesmcfumbles You cannot fit a thousand people in a sandwich, so that is a lot of people