40,000 Miles in 2 Years with an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio: A Detailed Ownership Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2023
- Join me as I share my detailed, 2-year, 40,000-mile journey with my 2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. In this video, I cover everything from why I chose the Giulia Quadrifoglio over the BMW M3 to an in-depth look at the car's specs, exterior and interior, performance, and more.
Discover how much value this vehicle has lost after covering such distance, and learn about the various issues I've faced along the way, including the cost of maintenance and modifications. This all-encompassing review provides a real-world, comprehensive look at what it's truly like to own and drive a 2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio.
Timestamps:
00:01 Intro
01:00 Car Specs
01:58 Why Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio over BMW M3?
03:29 Exterior
04:07 Interior
05:10 Brakes
05:35 Driver Modes
06:33 Exhaust Sound
06:53 Suspension
07:17 Autopilot
08:10 Back Seats
08:36 Trunk
09:00 Modifications
09:45 Value Depreciation after 40,000 Miles
10:38 Alfa Romeo Issues
12:00 Maintenance Costs
12:48 Outro
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Alfa Romeo is better than a BMW Audi or M- Benz,plus more fun to drive.
Well, overall I would agree with you. But what do you mean by better? Fun to drive 💯
@@andriidemko I think they're better in every way. Styling, mechanically and simply awesome to look at. BMWs and the other Germans are rather boring, and you see one at every stop light. Plus Alfa's reliably has improved greatly. One other thing. Alfa were not among the top 10 in the world's most traded cars in the first year of ownership. It was the Germans and Nissan. Don't listen to people when they say Alfas aren't reliable. Fiat wasn't even that top 10 list.
@charlesclement383 There's a reason you see more BMW'S and Mercs than Alfas. People prefer them and buy them over 10x more often.
After owning an M3 and a Gulia I can easily claim that reliability is equal. But the ergonomics and performance of the M3 are vastly superior from BMW. Especially Xdrive cars that launch like bullets. Not to mention the price for the performance also skews to the Germans.
I have to say that ferrari derived engine sounds amazing though.
@@jaybomb5022 and they have bigger car pool to test and refine cars and infrastructure is there to fix cars. At the end it comes down to personal preferences. Both cars are great
My wife and I have owned four Alfa’s over 30 years including our 2018 Giulia🍀and they all capture your heart. True Alfa fans will commit to their cars as they would a close relative or friend.
That is so true, we love our car and there is something special about them for sure.
Which Alfas have you had?
@@andriidemko 1987 Milano (75) Verde, 1994 164 Super, 1970 GTV 1750 plus the newer Giulia 🍀.
@@scottbl8556 oh man, that a beautiful line up! Congrats! I also what all of them ❤️
16 straight years with Alfa 😊
Love to see people that doesnt like to modify a PERFECT car. Btw i think here in Europe we dont have those problems such as waiting for the pieces to replace cause almost every city (even the small ones) have an Alfa Romeos dealership
Really? Maybe it was a smart move from Alfa to focus on Europe, the market that they know and can serve better and faster. Tell me overall do you see many Alfas there on streets? And where are you from?
@@andriidemko yeah here its very common to see alfas, not the quadrifoglio but the normal one, is it even used as a taxi many times. I would say its almost as usual as its for you to see a Dodge (i think). Im from Spain, obviously in Italy you see alfas EVERYWHERE and there its the typical police car
@@WitKraai I would much rather see Alfas than Dodges on streets 😂
I do like hellcat though, it has it’s own character
Hey Andrew! I just watched your awesome video about your 2 years of car ownership, and I absolutely loved it! It was great to hear about your experiences and see how the car has been a part of your life. We definitely need more videos like this from you! It would be awesome to hear about other interesting journeys with vehicles, like epic road trips across the US, cool low-key mods like the vinyl wrap (which wasn't mentioned in the video for some reason 😁), or even some behind-the-scenes stories when you take the car to a dealer, for detailing, or a car meet! Keep 'em coming 😎
Thanks brother, there is actually a video about the wrap on the channel, in the next couple weeks I’ll release like 8-9 video about the rally that I was a part of. it would be pretty funny and interesting to watch, I promise! Thanks for your support, Vlad! 🙏🏻
One of the things that sold me on the Giulia was how well it handles. It is great that the car has double wishbone suspension. Some reviewers said the car was a bit twitchy but it really can be a good thing when quickly turning in.
Totally agree with you, now most of the cars, not including supercars that I drive has too soft of steering and I don’t like it. I think it’s one on the biggest selling points. As well as suspension. Whenever you need it soft it’s actually very comfortable and in race mode it’s firm and with right tires sticks to the road like a proper super car
@@andriidemko exactly
Just sold my 2019 QV, loved the car, but it no longer met my needs. Fortunately, I never had a single issue with the car.
Lucky you! I’m glad that you had such experience! But in the other hand you hadn’t had a true Alfa experience 😂
But honestly glad that it worked out for you 🚀
Really informative video 💪
Glad it was helpful!
Would love a follow up video on the issues encountered (how you detected the issue, at what mileage, and process for resolving). Great video.
Got it, I’ll do that! Thanks for the idea
Thank you for telling me more about it I already planned on getting one years & years ago always wanted one and now I will get one.
Do it! It’s a lifetime experience that you would remember for life!
Did you see Kevin Deal's TH-cam on the QV? It's a blast. The Auto Fanatic TH-cam
content and Kevin's helped me decide on trading my Giulia Ti Lusso for the QV.
@@larrychew1 I haven't seen Kevin Deal's channel. I've seen Auto Fanatics, it's just hard for me sometimes to go over a 50 minute video where he explains every single thing on the car. But he puts a really good content and I like his point. Also, I'm not a fan of mods for Alfa which he does a lot.
Great vid and much appreciated. Despite the costs nothing’s else drives like this car. The issues are just part of the experience. Dating a supermodel is much like owning this car. Always some problems but worth it.
Well said about a supermodel! 💯
Still love it and coming back to her every time and all the problems are worth it 🙏🏻
Great video, back in 1976 I bought a brand new alfasud n it had major quality issues. I am amazed still reliability is still the same almost after 50 yrs.
It’s still a small company right, compared to merc or bmw or vw group, i knew what i was signing up for but not to that extreme 🤣
You know there is a joke, range rover owners don’t greet each other afternoon as they already met at a dealer in the morning. So I literally had that experience with alfa
Great buyers guide there, thanx
Thanks brother
Original owner (custom ordered) 2017 Comp Red Giulia Quad w/ Carbon Ceramic brakes...every option except Racing Seats (same reason, sport seats are more comfortable than the Recarros and the sport seats have heat)...2017 were 1 inch lower from the factory........Many put 2017 springs on the later cars to achieve the proper ride height...40,000 wonderful miles...will never sell as Alfa will be all electric in the future...Giulia Quads will be collectables in the future ....as for BMW Buck Teeth ?
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
THE KING IS BACK !!!!
BMW WHO ????
Totally agree, and agree being a collectable. Not sure how much value will it preserve having 40k miles :)
But it’s for sure a very unique product that we won’t see in the future, last of it’s kind. And if yours doesn’t have that many issues I wouldn’t sell it easer!
🍀🍀🍀
Best car ever made in the last 20 years
For sure
Great review and I would love a quad so much, probably a Stelvio quad though. I am new to the Alfa world, bought a 22 Giulia Veloce last Sept and absolutely love it. I have heard similar as far as the maintenance cost go but feel like those prices vary greatly depending on where you live.
Welcome to the Alfa World! You will definitely love it. Believe it or not Veloce has a similar feel to quad, not that extreme obviously but I loved it when was driving. When quad was in service lol.
Also see the comments, in Europe people get better treatment, so it does depend where you live.
I got messages many never had any issues, it could have been bad luck as well. But man, giulias are great! So great choice!
Shop rates are very high in the SF Bay Area because everything is expensive, land, buildings, rent, utilities, insurance, labor - all of which is reflected in the shop rate. The local dealer is Maserati and Alfa Romeo so you're paying the $300 per hour Maserati rate. There's one mechanic certified / trained for the QV. Probably an extra wait if he takes 2 weeks vacation. I'm not looking forward to replacement of the serpentine belt. Replacement of the actual belt and tensioner is not bad. It's the removal and putting back of all the parts to get to the belt. You need to empty coolant, pump out the A/C, etc. and lots of parts removed to access the belt. The design is optimized for ultimate performance. Ease of maintenance is a secondary if not a tertiary consideration. Love the car. It is special. Also it can be very under the radar around non-car people. A white QV could pass for a white Camry Sport although the QV has a much more pronounced rear diffuser.
BTW the oil service is easy to do. The price of the oil filter is a bit shocking. Is it a very special filter? Perhaps it is really a Ferrari filter.
@@larrychew1 true that in the Bay Area everything is more expensive but it still shouldn't cost $1k, my friend, who is a certified alfa mechanic, says his dealer is charging $250 for qv oil change on the Bay Area. that's a bit low, need to see if that's true. but $500 is okay to pay.
yes you can do an oil change yourself, I just wanted to have all the paperwork in case of warranty repairs, I have all the proof that only alfa officials touched the car. So, if something goes wrong, and most likely it will, I have all the paperwork. that was my only reasoning.
Great and excelent Alfa Romeo car´s!!!
Thank you!
@@andriidemko You´re welcome!!!
@@andriidemko You´re welcome!!!!
Interesting video :) I own a Giulia QV 2018, and it's cool to see what the differences are. Also, I have not had any issues with my car, literally none. And parts come really quickly (had to buy break pads) but I live in Croatia, and Italy is really close, obviously.
Any part that comes is a 3 week wait. I’m glad that you haven’t had have any issues with the car. They are meant to be enjoyed for sure, when they work :)
@@andriidemko Oh damn that's a long wait time, for me it was 1 day. Came on a Monday to a licensed mechanic, they got the part on Tuesday. Sucks to have to wait so long :/
@@RumpledCode Looks like I need to move to Europe then lol
Parts could be more readily available in the U.S. if Stellantis gave Alfa Romeo the budget to stock parts or air freight the parts to the U.S. I believe there were only 2,500 QVs in the U.S. I'm unsure if that number is just Giulia QVs or if the Stelvio QVs are included. Much smaller numbers than M3s.
@@larrychew1 100% agree with you. In a nut shell Alfa is not as big as BMW, obviously, and people who buy these cars need to just be aware
You're right on so many things. I don't like the grill neither , thank you for this video. Greets from Israel
Thank you for the support 🙏🏻 glad you found it useful!
All other cars seem boring since I bought an Alfa Giulia.
Lol, that’s a great way to phrase that! 😂
I appreciate the honest info. I just wish it hadn't resulted in me scratching another relatively low-priced dream car off my list. And it was close to the top.
Sorry brother but that’s the truth, to drive my point across, i just found out that the rear passenger shock is leaking.
Get a Porsche
@@andriidemko yup, that's the one European manufacturer still on my list.
@@ribbles1699 what are the others that you consider?
@@andriidemko Cayman GTS or GT4 are the only cars in the running for my retirement. My kids aren't old enough to drive yet, so I really need 4 doors. There are no American cars that appeal to me (too big, too heavy, too obnoxious), and after finally realizing that lightness is everything, I'm actually considering the new Type-S even though it's wrong wheel drive. That's after trading an M240i xDrive for a '22 Si, which is actually more fun than the BMW was. I'd consider an E39 M5, but I don't have time for the maintenance.
@@ribbles1699 in terms of fun to drive, not sure there will be anything more engaging than alfa as a new car, e39 m5 is great but as you said, it’s pretty old. How about panamera turbo s? Or even urus? Or even split it into 2 cars, one as a daily and another one for fun
Andrii thanks for such a true great video! I've only had this car for 4 month and so far it's the perfect car for me. This car has enough power to beat any on the track, and the control and handling is incomparable, which is the best thing this car has, and I can really compare it with other ones because I already had two 911, one Viper, 4 Corvette C7 including one ZO6, one M3, and one Shelby GT350, and definitely this is the one(well, that's why I traded in my Shelby GT350 for this one..Lol). Exhaust sound is so amazing , same as shifting, and braking. In only 4 month I've been able to do with this car what I couldn't with any of the other ones! Sometimes I even feel like racing in front of the police to see if they can catch me! Just a feeling guys, I won't do it!
Love your story man! And a pretty great line up of cars! Alfa is and will be special always! Wait until they introduce in august 6C, that would be a very beautiful and fast car for sure! Love to see you that excited about the car! 🐍🍀
@@andriidemko I'm sure will love the new car but, not sure if will has such a great general performance as the Giulia Quadrifoglio. I live in Miami, where you can see a lot of exotic cars, but this Giulia QV is something else! ;)
@@rvega011 all the time I hit cars and coffee there is barely an alfa there. It’s a great conversation starter for sure!
Do you have any tracks there?
@@andriidemko Andrii let me know next time you go to Cars & coffee, we can met there. There is Homestead speedway track, and one in West Palm Beach which I believe is closed, but honestly I wouldn't do a track day with my Alfa, because one time I did a track day with a motorcycle (Aprilia RSV4), and a guy basically stopped with me in turn #1. Almost kill me, so no more tracking day unless there are very few cars!
@@rvega011 absolutely I’ll let you know.
Yes track days with many cars are dangerous, especially if peps don’t know how to drive
in europe you can buy them with 10year service plan and extended warranty, so for service you only pay for oil which is 200euros. Mine will be soon 4years old, 30kmiles, and absolutely no issues, but its a daily car not used on track at all.
Glad to hear you enjoy it everyday. I’m definitely moving to Europe in a few years. Apparently way different experience than in the US.
Glad to hear you enjoy it everyday. I’m definitely moving to Europe in a few years. Apparently way different experience than in the US.
5:00 for unknown reasons when the camera use the infotaiment as video output sucks, but my rear view camera it's connected to an additional box, running android for getting aftermarket android auto/apple car play, it's like a 2nd infotaiment you can access to, so when in R automaticaly switch to this "infotaiment" for show rear view camera and the quality it's far superior, litteraly like a cheap smartphone of those days.
Same thing was in my previous Audi, where it the video quality was like shit. I can’t believe it’s hard to fix especially nowadays
Well this video changed my mind about buying one......
I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing but hopefully you found some value in the video and got some answers to your questions 🙏🏻
@@andriidemko Definitely liked the video. I havent pulled the trigger yet on anything because I got a new GX460 but the maintenance comments has kinda pushed me away from this car :(
@@dubs04sti what’s your criteria? What are you looking for?
Hi, great video! I’m currently looking for a 23’, so maintenance is not included? Like oils changes and such?
I’m sure it’s not. Not like with BMW M, not sure about porsche but BMW M everything is included for the first 30k miles or 36k miles, something like that.
Maybe it depends country to country but not sure they would change the policy, my experience is in the US
The first oil service is free in the U.S.
Yes first others weren’t 1k that I paid, I think it’s my dealer problem. I think it’s usually $500
The base 2.0L turbo is even more reliable id say! Love my 2019 Giulia Veloce, Viva Alfa!
I would think so as well! And 2.0 with almost 300 hp, is pretty quick as well!
@@andriidemko plenty quick! 0-60 in 5 sec or less, pair that with precision handling & Brembo brakes, you’ve got yourself a hell of a car! Not to mention the best looking car on the road. Viva Alfa!
@@brey93 yep, I agree, when my was in service my dealer gave me the base model and I was very impressed.
Also, can’t wait for the 6C to be released soon, that should be an epic car!
@@andriidemko 6C is going to be epic, I better start saving money now! Lol
Tonale was horrible considering the dodge dart is a replica. Anyways, keep up the Alfa content man!
@@brey93 can't agree with you more brother! and thanks for the support! it really means a lot to me!
At 1:45 the option carbon seats are by Sparco (same as on GTA), not Recaro. The GTAm gets Sabelt.
Yes you are right
6:42 😍😍😍
Glad you liked it my friend 🚀
Your quad looks gorgeous but I really think the alloys would look even better if they were powder coating in anthracite grey ?
Thanks, I think that grey wheels are better on most of the cars as you actually see the rim. Good reminder, I’ll check with my local guys and see when I can make that happen, thanks for the reminder:)
Alfa Romeo will make you feel very different than other people it’s literally a 1 of 1 car only 2 models sold in america ! shit will make you feel different
💯 brother
I feel enthusiasts mostly buy this car and they rarely sell this car
That is absolutely true
If you went back in time, would you have bought the M3 instead? Thanks for vid
I would buy a 911 and a daily, the alfa is amazing don’t get me wrong but i tried to have 3 cars in 1, daily, racing and sports car but they should be different. i’m not going on track now, I have a daily and alfa, 911 would give better experience as a weekend car and won’t loose that much in value, that’s what I would do
Is that the montage at deer valley?
Yes it is! Good catch!
@@andriidemkoalso I don’t think any Alfa had autopilot. They have lane keep assist which is just an alert that you’re going over lanes. It’s on par with Porsches lane keep assist.
@@pksangavaram it's debatable how it's called but many dealers internally refer to this as an autopilot level 2, where autopilot is more like a marketing word than an actual technology. you are right. it's a fancy way of saying "lane keep assit"
Great video however the background music at the intro takes a bit away from your voice. With a good story to tell you don't need intro music 🙂
I forgot my mic, needed a script, and it was so windy that i was worried that about sound a lot but it was better to put it anyway I thought so just did it, if i want to do more content need to fix those things for sure
hi, Is it true that it usually has mechanical failures and the repairs are very expensive?
Well it depends right, many cars are totally good and owners had no issues. I experienced most of the time mechanical issues yes and in terms of being expensive… If you pay out of pocket and go to official dealer at least in the US then yes for sure. If the car is under warranty than it’s free but you need to have warranty
Dang you beat me! I’m doing about 17k-18k miles per year right now 😅 How long do you plan on keeping it going?
That’s some good numbers man! I’m planning to keep it for a while, for sure, what about you?
@@andriidemko Same here! I want to get it to 100k
@@Food_n_Driver365 do you know what’s the highest mileage qv out there? I don’t just curious
@@andriidemko I’m not 100% sure but I did see a one with 102k miles for sale on Rons Rides TH-cam channel.
@@Food_n_Driver365 we should hit 200k 🚀
Why did you have to change the turbos?
Because one broke and they had to replace 2. The car had check engine light and was stuck in normal mode. If it was not under warranty the job would have been $20k, which is mid blowing. The whole new engine is $30-$35k to replace.
As far as maintenance is concerned: NO, it won't cost you that much IF you have a good mechanic. My guy charged me $350 for oil, and new brakes (pads/rotors, LABOR ONLY) Whet Andrew was mentioning, was if you go to the dealer....then, yes, it's expensive. As far as depreciation, I think he's on the very low end....there's a 2018 MY for $51kish.
Well, if you do oil change yourself it would cost close to nothing, right but I’m just sharing what official dealers quoted me and what i paid for. I have an alfa mechanic who would charge most likely as you said $400 but it wouldn’t be an official dealer.
About depreciation, it’s one thing what you want to sell you car for vs how much it would be sold for. 40k+ miles would be considered as a high mileage quad. Even when it comes with extended warranty. So the price is determined not by how much you think it’s worth but how much peps really are willing to give you
How much has the car depreciated over the time you've owned it?
It’s in the video, check the timestamp
Bro in all fairness you drive it super hard racing rally. 🏁 good for you. With that activity you are going to abuse the machine . You mentioned belt for timing? I thought it is chain?
Fair comment, thanks brother! It was designed for this, should enjoy it in fullest 😎
Belt, every 30k miles it should be replaced, a major maintenance $3k…
Just put a deposit down on a ‘24 QV. Hoping they’ve solved some of the issues.
Bother you gonna love it! Still no regrets on buying and sticking to it. Next year you won’t be able to do the same. So congrats and nice choice!
As i have you here, as a new buyer what information would you be curious to know about the car?
@@andriidemko so many questions! Curious about tires, thinking of changing over to PS4s for summer and then a dedicated snow tire for winter (I’m in Canada).
Also curious about the power and RWD in reduced traction situations. Coming from a ‘23 Q4 Estrema which has been pretty great.
@@AP-cc1uw check the video about tires on the channel. basically if you don't track or track a few times PS4 is good. I'm not a good resource for winter only tires, but Continental DWS worked pretty good in winter in Philadelphia where I lived when bought the car.
Use A mode and you will be fine, it won't spin. On Pzero in winter the car will be undrivable in Race mode and D. N will work sometimes and A would work as it calculates the amount of traction you have and gives you just enough to go through.
But even on Continental DWS I never had any problems but I didn't go off reading either :)
@@AP-cc1uw hopefully this helps, let me know if anything else you are interested in
If you have 32 miles a gallon you multiply it with 1.6 to get km wich translates into 51,2 km a gallon and devide it by 3,786 and you get about 13,5 km a liter! That actually is very good on the highway!
Also the dealers in the USA charge way to much. Those numbers are crazy. 1000 dollar oilchange? That is criminal. Should not cost more then 150 to 200 max with the best oils. And if you do it yourselve under 100$. So you know the dealer rips you of. In Europe we don't have the parts issues so here it's easier to get parts if needed.
That was the perfect condition. Pretty much translated to 7.35 liter per 100 kilometers. Usual driving would be something like 12l/100km
A lot of things are super crazy in the US and that definitely one of them. Usually an oil change could be around $400. The problem of doing it yourself is that, when you would have a warranty claim, and they would know you did something to the car yourself, they can cancel your warranty on that part. Not a 100% rule, but I know that happened.
I should def move to Italy one day and stop dealing with all this nonsense one day 🚀
I saw one in Calgary Canada for Canadian $75000 (52000 Euro) with 35000 kms on it.
What an owner wants to sell it for and what a new customer will actually going to pay, would be different things. I got a concrete offer. If someone can sell it for that much, that would be great!
@@andriidemko For sale by Alfa Romeo Calgary.
@@mjor6406 with the current market they can hope to get Canadian $65k
@@andriidemko true - not many people are buying Alfa just the SUVs.
here would cost like 20% more at least
They should do the giulia quadriofoglio in AWD.
It would smoke m3 in no time 😈
Wait, was it snowing?
Lol, yes in Colorado and California there is snow now yes
I thought the MY2021 didn't have the carbon roof as standard(only as option, the exposed carbon)
Oh no, it’s standard on all quads
My MY21 does have a steel roof😊
Carbon was only available as an option
@@C-HBrons are you sure? Exposed carbon yes it’s an option but all quads as I know come with carbon roofs that are painted
@@andriidemko Alfa quietly deleted the painted carbon fiber roof as a standard item. Someone noticed that it was not listed on the Manroney sticker. My 2021 has the carbon roof. It was an April 2021 build.
@@larrychew1 Oh good to know, I didn't know that! thanks for the info brother
if it were red, I would be ready to forgive all the listed disadvantages
Dude, it’s red, see the door jams. I have been looking specifically for a red one for a long time and glad I found one.
Red is my favorite color
@@andriidemko so… why i see blue and white🌈?)
@@maksymkryvenko5711 Ever heard of a wrap?
@@brandonsing9434 ever heard of a sarcasm?
@brandonsing9434 Thanks brother, some people won’t just get it 🙏🏻
Man whoever did your maintenance on the car charged you double of what it should have been. I have the same car and the maintenance costs was maybe 35% of what yours cost.
Agree, already shopped around and found cheaper options. Because they say they are “Maserati and Alfa” dealer that’s their price, good luck to them. Never coming back. It takes time to find good mechanics who are trustworthy and charge reasonable prices in California.
Love the car, it's so versatile you can either do a track day or enjoy some shluhas in the backseat 🏆🔥
😂😂😂 love you bro
Would you have bought the car knowing what you know now?
It depends on my life at a certain point.
As if now, I would pay more to have a 2 cars a daily and a track/exotic car.
If you want to combine everything together and really really worried about maintenance I would buy an m3 (if you don’t care about the front grill)
If you care about the looks and want an alfa, I would buy a 2020+ model with 25k miles, and get an extended warranty after 50k miles.
There won’t be a car like this in the future, so I would enjoy it as we have still some time left before EV era
The only thing where the Germans have always been good was workmanship and material quality the rest is not better than other premium manufacturers like the Italian, the Italian cars are nowadays very well made, they are luxurious, premium quality very well finished beautiful design the Italians have the best design in the world, absolutely reliable cars, the technology in terms of digitalization or mechanics is in the Italians 1A, the German but all the time trying to copy the Italians...
Audi's designers are not German they are Italian, italdesign Giugiaro 🇮🇹 the Germans have never really been able to design, Volkswagen was broke and they went to Italy, Turin to italdesign Giugiaro 🇮🇹 and the Italians designed the first Golf 1 and that's how Volkswagen became famous before Volkswagen was completely broke volkswagen has never made a car except the first three which were a complete failure the Italians saved Volkswagen until today they make the cars at the Volkswagen Group, just like Mercedes there was also an Italian designer who revolutionized and saved Mercedes, the Italians and the English are the number one in cars, and BMW took the Giulia platform from Alfa Romeo and started to build cars because they couldn't do it the only thing they could do was the isetta 🤣 and after that Claus Luthe was inspired by Alfa Romeo.
That’s an overview! Thanks for that.
So you think that tech the alfa has is better than bmw, correct?
As for design, well Italians are on another level, that’s part of the country culture for sure. And a lot of manufacturers where coming to Italian design studios to get they products done
Great research
@@andriidemko Of course you have to compare the F82/80 M3 against ALFA GIULIA Q Alfa Romeo disassembles F82/80 M3 at the Nurburgring.
ALFA Giulia Q 7:32 Minutes
F82/80 M3 7:52 minutes, this is the real comparison, so 20 seconds faster tells you who is ahead, you can take the best driver he won't make it.
F82/80 M3 GTS 7:35 minutes, even the GTS didn't make it and you have to compare it to the Giulia GTA.
G80 M4 7:30 minutes is just 2 seconds faster, but that's the aftermarket generation which is ridiculous in the end....
Alfa Romeo is a serious opponent on the racetrack Alfa Romeo is not defeated on the racetrack so easily 😉
And the rest I have already said the technology in the interior is at a top level as far as class is concerned look at the facelift.
German cars are totally overrated, that's just in people's minds those are never the best cars.
The super sports cars are dominated by Italians strongest brand in the world is Ferrari!
@@andriidemko In the end, everyone has to decide for himself which brand he chooses, but that Italian cars are deliberately badmouthed is just pure jealousy!
@@KPSX1 That’s why I bought and have the Alfa because it combines design, utility and performance like no other car for sure.
Quad feels, and is engaging on a different level compared to m3.
Not sure I agree with technology, I do love my real speedometer and tachometer a lot, don’t want ti have it digital. The screen could have big bigger, the main one but as an owner I don’t care, that’s not what i paid money for.
Reliability is a question as I have had issues with the car, most likely would have issues with other cars as well.
The problem in my case here in the US is the infrastructure. Dealerships, mechanics, parts, that’s it. Nothing to do with the car as a product, everything to do with how the company is set up
@@KPSX1 if you take Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, and Mclaren they are all posited differently.
And yes BMW marketers are better as they created this brand that people are buying into as well as infrastructure. I wish Alfa would do the same one day.
Can’t wait for the August 30th to see the reveal of 6c finally.
And on a note of Alfa vs Maserati, I think Alfa is way way better, Maserati unfortunately is loosing it’s brand and Alfa with F1 has a stronger brand.
Also, fun fact 2017-2022 there have been only 2,003 giulias quadrifoglios that were sold in the US. That makes this car a rare find for sure
I wanted to buy a new Alfa Romeo Giulia but the Alfa dealer in my area does not open on Saturdays for sales, nor do they do repairs and maintenance on Saturday's as well. Their loss. I went and bought a JCW Mini Cooper and I love it.
Exactly. That’s unfortunate, these are blast cars but the infrastructure is killing them. Congrats on the JCW Cooper! Glad you enjoy it, it’s a great great unique drive!
Well the mini was one of the most unreliable on the list. Hope you fear better with yours.
@@charlesclement383 really? interesting. will see, now the car is in service again, rear shock was leaking :(
@@charlesclement383 You clearly have an outdated list. JD powers ranks mini as 82 out of 100 for reliability (which is great) and Consumer reports ranks it very reliable as well. With the gen 3 Mini 2016+ all previous issues have been addressed and resolved. The latest offering are bulletproof.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I had a friend who traded his mini for an Abarth. The mini was a total headache. The list is a recent edition of the reviews of ppl who got rid of their cars in the first year. Mini BMW and M-Benz were at top of the list.
Love the video but $1,000 for an oil change isn't right. Definitely agree that the dealers can be hit or miss but you're either exaggerating or your dealer is making a ton of money on you..
I'm in my 3rd year of ownership on my QV (also regularly tracked) and previously had an F80 M3 and Giulia TI Sport Q4 for reference. I also live in a major city.
Thanks for the comment, actually yes it was $1k, i can send you paperwork. It didn’t cost that much before, maybe other dealers charged less but in San Jose that’s what they charged me. Before that it was like $550
@@andriidemko so the dealer is charging you $500+ for labor on just an oil change?
@@raphaeledwards yep, because it's a QV. That's why I was pissed. I didn't have much time before my rally started otherwise I would have shopped around. It should cost $500 all in the most
@@andriidemko That's crazy, sorry to hear that. I was upset when the dealer charged me $500 on my QV for an oil change and I'm in Boston. I started doing it myself along with brake fluid flushes..
@@raphaeledwards do you know if it affects the warranty? that's what I was thinking as well doing.
It's not autopilot, it's adaptive cruise control.
I read somewhere that it was called an autopilot but in reality you are right it’s an adaptive cruise control with a lane keep assist system
I’m actually sad they gone away with the analog speedometers.
I’m with you here. I love my gages. And won’t trade them for anything else
@@andriidemko Would you go with Giulia again? Im living in Italy and have a Alfa dealer near me. But the reliability issue scare me. I will have GLE as a back up but it’s obviously an annoyance to deal with the shop all the time.
My other option is the Cayman GTS. Completely different cars but I’m definitely looking for something that has a great steering feel.
My favorite car was the E90s 335i and I’ve yet to find another car I’ve felt a connection to like that car. No new BMW although objectively better cars has made me feel as connected since that generation.
@@AndrewL31413 if I were you this is what I would do:
1. I would buy a used one with like 25-30k kilometers. Why? Alfa will depreciate as hell in the first, second year and with these miles. So you would still be under warranty and if something goes wrong, just sell the car.
2. I would buy a 2020+ model year as they have less issues than earlier models. Not my words, words of my mechanic who is Alfa certified and only works on them. Earlier models had issues with engines. Then they fix them. Don’t remember which exact issues but that’s a fact.
3. If decide to keep the car always have warranty if out of original warranty buy an extended one. You never know when this can go wrong.
4. Absolutely buy an Alfa because later in your life you would regret bot owning one. I don’t regret buying the car. I may move to other brands but not I know how it should feel and behave. Yes Porsche is a more logical buy and you may buy it later. But there won’t be more Giulias. It’s a unique car to have and it can do it all.
Hopefully it was helpful
@@andriidemko thanks for the advice. I think it might be hard to find a used one in Italy. Sadly I’ve never seen an actual Giulia QV on the streets here. You don’t see much Italian exotics cars in Italy compared to parts of the US.
There are tax police in Italy that will stop you if you drive a exotic cars so people stopped buying them as much to avoid having the tax authorities bother them.
@@AndrewL31413 wow, that’s interesting. I didn’t know that.
Try to find and if you don’t that’s fine as well.
Are you planning to track the car, daily drive, roadtrips? What are your criteria?
I have a ‘22 and I agree with almost everything you have said and some. Alfa resale is, simply, shit! The dealership network is, simply, shit! The car is a brilliant drive in every way but the reliability is a real concern. They say owning an Alfa is an “once in a life time experience” and this will be that once for me too😅
Well, said! Alfa will show you what owning a Ferrari is going to feel like. Most of Ferraris I see have a check engine light, with some stupid mistake, well, but it’s still there 😂 definitely love and hate relationship!
Curious to know what you don’t agree with?
@@andriidemkohonestly now that I have owned and probably the last one ever, I will not say that it’s more special than the M3 or C63 as all three are brilliant cars and charming in their own ways. Other than that, you are spot on with everything I have experienced and thought of. Nicely done!
@@davidoliu thank you brother, appreciate kind words! When I say special, obviously it's subjective but it's not just how the car drives but also how rare it is on roads. You can make an argument that for BMW fans M cars make them feel special, as well as Mercs. I still think M cars are better built, as well as AMG or RS. Honestly, all of them deliver amazing emotions, especially if they are driven and tracked not just being garaged.
@@andriidemko Truly so! Pity that mine ended up being garaged (1700km in 9 months), hence I’m trading it in for something that I can/will use everyday😉
@@davidoliu great point! Then don’t buy any Ferraris or Mclarens, those would be the worst lol, my friends always have check engines 😂
Bro I put 30k in 5 months in mine 😂
Wait what? Awesome man! What do you do with it? 😂
take literally a shagyy microfiber that is damp and rub your alcantara wheel with it and it will bring it back
slightly damp
Thank you 🙏🏻
you’re getting charged so much for maintenance my Alfa dealership is less than 50% of what you get charged
I know, right? I think it’s this deal in particular, other i hope other dealers are charging less, as it’s not normal. Also basically we are left with only 2 dealers in San Francisco Bay Area
i feel this car is a rip off compared to others at its price point... bmw m4, audi rs5/rs6 and c63 even... you get way less for this amount of money from alfa romeo
I can see that but if you drive it you will see the point. It is a great car trust me
"I rally it and race it" yeah duh you drive the car harder than most people would so you are going to break shit. 🤔
If compared to an average owner I think so but I can’t say that I do it all the time and the car was promoted a car that was the quickest 4 door saloon around the Ring when it was launched. Should be able to handle a lot of things