Winch'in Wednesday; Featuring the X-Bull 13000LB Winch and Warn Medium Duty Winching Accessory Kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- I have had a lot of questions into the quality of a budget winch like the X-Bull winch, so I am doing a series tests with the X-Bull 13000LB winch to see how it stacks up against its dramatically more expensive counterparts.
Really like how you did this video. You do a great job explaining everything you are doing .
you can use the tool bag as a winch dampener. I keep a 5' length of chain that I wrap around the winch line. people might freak out because you're not supposed to use chains for recovery,but keep in mind no energy is being applied to the chain,it's just wrapped around the winch line.. the chain can also be used to wrap around an axle or the frame of a vehicle with no recovery points.
People freak out over everything if it works for you who cares
I’m a newb to recovery thank you for the insight .
Your welcome!
The bag IS the winch blanket. Put a shackle thru the handles and hang it on the cable with the shackle.
No shackle! Feed the hook thru the handles. And add a few rocks or chunks of wood for weight if you want. Never add metal shackles unless absolutely necessary. One less thing to get slung thru the windshield, grill or into a person
watching the water start to squeeze out of the rope was badass.
Good video! My only recommendation would be to remove the hook completely and use a shackle when connecting the winch line to the tree saver. I’ve had/seen more than a few hooks fail and have never seen a shackle break. It is a more positive connection when you are really using your winch.
I agree with you, however for testing I want to use the OEM part to test for durability. Normally I would have already replaced the hook. Thanks for watching and for your input, one of the main reasons I like doing YT videos is to interact with a like minded community.
Just so you know, when all your wheels are rolling freely, on level ground your resistance is only 25% of the total weight wich in your case is probably around 2000lbs. You can multiply the grade by vehichle weight in tons. In your case this only adds about 1000lbs to the pull. So your overall pull weight was somewhere in the ballpark of 3000lbs.
Just so you know, you were not pulling 9000 pounds when you are rolling on the wheels. 9000 pound pull would be the entire truck off the ground.. Great video though, thank you.
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If the winch is truly rated at 13K pounds, then it should be able to lift 13K lbs vertically. I've always been suspect concerning winch ratings since they are quick to say that they are not to be used for vertical lifting. If your vehicle was truly 9000 lbs and at a 30 degree angle, then the lift would have to be able to pull 4500 lbs since the force needed is equal to the weight of the object times the sine of the angle. From looking at the photos though, I doubt it was 30 degrees. In practice though, it would be a bit more than 4500 lbs since there is a certain amount of rolling resistance of a vehicle even over a smooth hard surface. Air up your tires to the maximum and park your truck on a level smooth parking lot and you'll still be able to push it by hand even at 9000 lbs.
Grumpy OldMan they aren’t designed for vertical lifting due to the braking mechanism. Vertical lift winches have a mechanical brake.
Looking forward to more tests. Just ordered this winch from Ebay.
hey how was your winch so far?
wondering the same, sakima's? how its been so far?
You dont need a winch blanket with a synthetic cable
You are supposed to use the bag as a winch dampener. Run the line threw the handles or shoulder strap. For the price it's a pretty nice set. Good video tho and hope you keep making more.
Umm yea I'll always use a shackle in a tree saver. The hook will always fail before the shackle assuming you have a quality shackle. And the shackle will have a larger bearing surface to help resist damage to the strap. If you are worried about the shackle flying dont. Use the correct size Crosby, Campbell, or new holland shackle with a 5:1 safety rating that would make your hook much weaker then the shackle. Attach the hook with the mouth facing up so if the hook breaks the energy is directed downwards. You also should use a weighted blanket on the lines that are pulling towards the truck. So many offroad rigging companies use the safety rating as the full working load this is foolish. Shockloading the winch line, having abrasive surfaces, and bad sling angles all amplify tension on the components.
Great video. Where did you get the wrench truck mount? Did you have to do any fabrication of any kind to make it wrench fit properly?
It’s the Westin winch tray, no fab required, you just bolt on. You can find it on Amazon.
Do you know how much your vehicle weighs? I just found your channel. Staying tuned for more videos. Hope to stay connected.
Why do people think the weight on a rolling vehicle is their weight of the vehicle? Like on level ground a person can push it. Maybe 100lbs. This tests only that the winch moves around.
Lock the brakes via foot and then try it.
The vehicle was on an incline, it was probably a 15° incline that you can’t really tell on camera. But 500 people have made the same comment so welcome to the club.
@@PrestonGladd I seen. I guess it’s not a common knowledge. I wonder why though.
@@johnmadsen37 if you consider probably 1% of the entire population even has a winch, and only one percent of that one percent probably has ever used it l, and of that one percent probably only 1% knows anything about winches and loads. So yeah, your average person wouldn’t know.
Put your foot on the brake and see if it drags you, thats a test.
Exactly I agree
I have same winch on my car trailer! works very good for me !
Hey bud I see your doing overlanding videos now, how is the winch holding up over the past three years? Or have you upgraded since you uploaded this video? Thanks in advance, yall have a good one.
So far is holding up great I still have the same winch and every time I’ve needed it it’s work just fine. I can recommend it for a budget winch.
@@PrestonGladd That answers my question. 👍
im leaning towards the xbull with the synthetic line, still doing alright for you? how far would you say wireless goes
Marcus Farias yeah, weather has been bad and hard to get out and film, going to do another video soon.
As far as the range goes, I have not tested how far away it will go, but I will include that in my next video.
Preston Gladd cool beans, thanks for sharing your experience, in a time of endless online info, this product has nearly none!
Looks like the same winch being sold under the Orcish brand. Check out the vid I did a couple of weeks ago and see if it looks the same to you.
Where did you get the hitch mount? Does it attach where the factory tow hooks were. I want one. Thanks
I got the Westin winch plate on amazon. You can go to the Westin website and see which one you need for your truck. They bolt on the factory tow hooks.
Can you tell me how you mounted your winch to your Cummins? I’m not seeing much of anything out there to mount a winch on the ctd models.
I used the Westin winch tray. They bolt up where your tow hooks are.
just use the bag as the rope blanket when winching
you say you have a 13k winch.. you wanna test 9k of its capacity ? ( you say your truck weighs about 9k in static/dead weight..)
pull your truck vertical up a tree.. the you can say it's a decent winch.. till then, you only have "rolling resistance" maybe about 500 lbs of force being used..
And then....
I was sorta looking for a review of someone using a winch
fishhuntadventure then watch my overland festival video and you will see it in major action.
Nice video. Do you keep the winch covered when not in use? I have read other company's suggest synthetic rope replacement every year? What's your opinion.
JACcreations I recommend covering if you can, I don’t, and visually inspecting the rope quarterly. If it looks like it needs replacing, then replace, otherwise keep using it. Additionally, just carry a back up with you and use the one you have as long as you can, then your covered and your saving money.
Replace rope as needed. Depends on how much its used
Can’t find the other videos how did it hold up over time? Ever use it to get unstuck?
The other videos were taken down because I got tired of armchair recovery specialists, here is a video of me using it about halfway through this the video I get stuck. It has held up just fine. It’s a budget winch though, so keep that in mind. I just got rid of it this year when I fitted my truck. 2019 Mid Atlantic Overland Festival; 10,000LBS + Steep, Slick Trail = Bad Idea?
th-cam.com/video/Cf0ZzYsQdtk/w-d-xo.html
have you had any problems with the bumper shifting? if you search youtube you can find videos of the ram trucks bumpers shifting when pulling with the tow hooks. and the westin mount seems to connect to the same points as the factory tow hooks.
thanks,
Mike.
mavucci not so far, but I am due to do another video in the winch so I will pull it at an angle both ways and test it.
Success!
Great video Preston. Sent you a PM via Instagram about this mount.
I may be buying one as well.
Thanks for the video.
What type of winch mount are you using and who manufactures it, and did you have to modify the stock bumper?
here is the video link to that winch tray, th-cam.com/video/vZvGQMFU9Qs/w-d-xo.html
Is there any way to keep your winch secure from thieves?
RebelViking912 not exactly, they are very heavy and would require quite a large amount of work to steal. You could spot weld the bolts where they attach, that would then require them to use a grinder, but at that point nothing would stop them.
Yes. There is a bolt lock kit that you can get. The other method is some tack welds on the bolt heads.
@@wvjeepguy8178 Don't spot weld the bolts. Stitch weld them. It's basically a half inch weld but makes sure you run that welder hot.
I welded mine. Just about an inch of weld on one edge of the hitch. It ain't going anywhere, but I always have a grinder with me.
Just a question I bought one like two months ago it came with the two wireless remote but I am not sure if it comes another piece just for the remotes or kind a switch to insert it in the same place where you hook up the long wire remote or you don’t need it and it works just with remote?
Jose Lopez You can use the wire remote and plug it in or you can use either one of the wireless remotes and it will work, I keep the wire remote just as a back up in case the wireless fails. But technically they’ll all work independent of each other. I hope that answered your question.
Gladd Overland thank you yes I just went to try and it works appreciate it for answer me thank and have good night
How is the winch holding up?
Its holding up great, I have used it several times under heavy load and had zero issues. You can see it in action in my recent Mid Atlantic Overland Festival video where I got in a very muddy situation.
Isn't x-bull made in Australia?
No, China
Do u reccomend the winch abt to buy one for my jeep Cherokee?
I do recommend the winch however, realize it’s a budget winch, and may not last forever. But mine is still going strong.
That's what I need just bought winch bumper it will be in next week so I'm looking for a decent winch thanks for the video
Next week never came?
It did, however I never got caught up on editing it and posting. I will soon. Sorry for the delay.
Preston Gladd it’s all good. I’m curious though what you think about it. I’ve seen it on amazon and am wondering if it’s better than the Badlands 12000 and if it’s something worth buying. Great vide.
For the money you cant beat it. Mine is still going strong and have had no issues. If you have the money to spend on a warn then you have piece of mind, but honestly I don’t see any reason to not pull the trigger on this for the price and performance from what I have seen thus far.
residue rope? YOUR WINCH SHOULD NOT LOSE ROPE WHEN YOU USE IT...
It’s worked fine for years now.
@@PrestonGladd maybe that piece was just a scrap from manufacture? The fairlead should not be damaging the rope like that.
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