The 34 Hour journey was excruciating and painful. But, as I said clearly in the video, we were surrounded by great people. Friendly people who we shared jokes with and were comrades through the uncomfortable 34 hours. Even the police guy, again which i report in the video, was a very nice man and looked after us throughout the journey. Even personally bringing us water from the staff's office when the train ran out of water. The Chinese people are some of my absolute favourites, we were in this together and we respected each other. I think we all hated the conditions but had an adventure together. That's what you will find on my channel.
Thanks to these two cuties, u guys achieved a big challenge. The reason why the tickets they oversold is maybe u r in holidays? And if it is during holidays, ppl from country side will wanna go to the cities to travel. However, due to the geographical environment, there will not be enough trains to take all ppl who r not rich or be thrifty to the destination they wanna go. So they sell the standing tickets and can be seated when on one there. This video reminds me I have took this train 11 years ago, it’s suffering when I was sitting 16hrs. Thanks the infrastructure development these years. Since abt 7years ago, I can easily take 5hrs high speed train to my home(4-tier city in China). Now, I just hope everyone can gain more money and enjoy the scenery along the way back home through new technologies:)
I tried translating the above Chinese text and made some modifications to make it easier to understand. 【As a Chinese person, let me explain this to you. The staff on board are very professional. You bought standing-room-only tickets, so you cannot rest in the sleeper compartment. The seat you initially occupied was reserved for upper berth passengers in the sleeper compartment. That's why the first male attendant (he is not a police officer) asked you to leave and escorted you through the entire sleeper area. Later, the people you encountered halfway was the railway police officer on board, and he reminded you that taking photos in the sleeper car is prohibited because it seriously infringes on others' privacy; but he did not specify further on this (The reason is simple: because he only knows a few basic English words and is unable to express thoughts and feelings completely fluently. In the future, with the widespread adoption of high-tech solutions like AI, this barrier will be eliminated.). The first male attendant initially arranged seats for you based on the temporarily unoccupied seats displayed on his phone (attendants can access the internal system through App to check seat availability). Afterwards, that attendant likely reported your situation, and his superior assigned you reserved spare seats (the superior could see in the system that the seats had not been purchased by anyone else). That's why you were reassigned to another seats--- although the location was not ideal, being next to the smoking area. Because you are foreigners and there is a language barrier, they provided you with special service. (All this can help you understand the so-called 'super-national treatment of foreigners in China'). The "police" you mentioned passing by every ten minutes could indeed just be train attendants. (I believe that at least nine and a half out of every ten people you saw wearing uniforms that day were train attendants/cabin crews.） Therefore, the train staff acted very professionally and because you were foreigners with a language barrier, they also upgraded your service for free】
About 200 yuan, less than 30 dollars, can span 3,000 kilometres, which is the meaning of its existence. This train brings great benefits to many people.
You should be grateful to the train attendants for giving you exceptional treatment. They even helped you find seats, which is unheard of. Typically, if you have a standing ticket, you can take any empty seat, but once the seat is claimed, you must give it up to the person with the reserved seat. But anyway, the Chinese people are very friendly and kind, so enjoy your journey.
Staff and policemen stopped his recording in the sleeper compartment in case he exposed passengers' privacy to the public. For example, someone likes nake sleep in the quilt. If you notice this point, you will understand why nobody banned his recording in the sitting compartment. Even the security camera only records the aisle.
Frankly, I wouldn't even take photos of anyone's face without their permission - it's just plain rude, but that's just my opinion. Something which some people of the YT and social media generation don't understand.
You bought a ticket with no seats but the train conductor moved local people so you could have a seat next to each other. If you turn this around, do you think if a Chinese couple was travelling to UK would a English train conductor move their people for the Chinese to sit?
你们很幸运，由于你们的西方面孔，得到了列车员的特殊照顾，让你们买无座票也能有标准座位来坐，你们原来的遭遇应该是你镜头旁边那些过道上站着或蹲着的人那样。列车员把车上预留的位子指定你们坐了。You are very lucky. Because of your Western faces, the conductor gave you special care, allowing you to buy a standard seat even if you bought a no-seat ticket. Your original experience should be the same as those people standing or squatting in the aisle next to your camera. The conductor designated the reserved seats for you.
The police officers arranged your seat not to restrict your freedom, but to see that you are a foreigner and it is not easy to take such a long journey They specially found a seat for you, hoping you do not misunderstand. You shouldn't hate them, you should thank them more!
Not everybody in uniform police officiers LOL They are just train attendants. But I agree with you that they helped him a lot and with a good intention.
Westerners have been scared of Western police since childhood, because Chinese police are the same as Western police? When it comes to police, it is nervous and fearful. 🤣Chinese police are more for serving the people!
Dear friend, this isn't called the "real side," it's called the "another side." Both the clean and tidy high-speed trains and the noisy, old green trains are real. Chinese people do not deny our backward side. There are still many low-income groups in China, and these slow, old trains will continue to exist for a long time in the future. At the same time, our high-speed trains will continue to extend to every rural area. Backwardness and advancement coexist and are both real. High-speed trains represent the achievements of our development over the past forty years, and the train you are riding, along with everyone you see on it, represents our development goals for the next forty years.
Well said! I was born in Beijing. I'm from a regular middle class family. I never had to take a slow train. My family either travels by speed train or planes. You cannot say Beijing and Shanghai are not real China either. I am real. My families are real. All 20 million people in Beijing are real. We are part of China. We are one side of many, just like the the people on your train. Denying any progress as fake China is ridiculous!
@@Zerpentsa6598 This is nothing. We don’t have high-speed railways in many places now. For example, in the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, only Linzhi to Lhasa has a high-speed railway. So we will work harder.
Firstly, your seat free ticket is not allowed to enter the sleeper workshop. Secondly, you should be aware that you have received preferential treatment, otherwise your trip will be like the person sitting on the ground in the video, with no seat for 32 hours
@@Mystic-HSeems the two seats for special guests not sale.The 30 hours journey is horrible trust me,When i was a student experienced too; This English gentleman is bravely, well done &welcome to China.
Don't worry. We Chinese always know well that foreigners visit our country they are our guests. Not our enemy. We will always try to be nice and offer them help if needed to make them feel comfortable and have an unforgettable experience in our country.
In sleeping couch no camera is allowed is quite reasonable. I bet you didn’t see famous China security camera there. That is reason the policeman asked you turn off camera, just like don’t shoot video in somebody’s bedroom. You are pretty lucky they help you find two seats, normally for ordinary locals, security guy in train won’t help them. Actually you were treated special.
China can stop running slow passenger trains because it already has a high-speed rail network and give all the line resources to freight trains (in China, slow passenger trains are a money-losing business while freight trains are profitable), but considering that there are still some people who are not so wealthy, the government still retained the slow passenger trains. Therefore, the function of these trains is not vacation tourism, but its basic function is transportation.
China retains the slow trains of the last century for two reasons: one is to take care of those with financial difficulties, and the other is for special transportation, such as the rapid transportation of large quantities of heavy weapons and equipment during wartime
@@BestluckYan i think the main reason is that it is a long trip train and for the high-speed train, it needs to be stopped and checked in every day to guarantee its safety, maybe in the future there will be more reliable high-speed for long-trip
in fact you guys must appreciate the police officer who find you seats since you bought standing tickets which means you can't sit in the sleeper. they might thougt you bought standing tickets mistakenly. even local chinese rarely buy such a standing ticket that takes more than 30 hours. so they might seem a little bit rude, but they were trying to help foreingers like you guys to follow the rules and survive your 32hours trip.
I remember that it took more than a week for Beijing to go to Urumqi more than 30 years ago because the speed was very slow. Almost no one in China goes to Xinjiang in this way now. Almost all the passengers who buy station tickets on this train are short-distance passengers who get on and off at the half-way station, while you take such a horrible way to get to Urumqi. Admire your courage!
You bought a standing ticket, which means that you don't have a fixed seat on the train, and the conductor kindly arranged a seat for you. The seats changed for the second time are exclusive seats for train staff, and these two seats are not sold to the public. I hope you can feel their good intentions instead of being disturbed.
You can take a standing ticket for a short distance, but not for a long journey, say for more than 2 to 3 hours, definitely not for 30+ hours. This train is not only slow but also stops at almost every station. The people on this kind of green train are mainly local farmers and migrant workers. China may need some double-decker trains to increase its capacity. The situation reminds me of a similar experience riding a super crowded, sweltering, World War II-style, overnight sleeper train from Marseille to Milan in a hot summer some 20 years ago. Nowadays, the green trains seem to be the lowest way to travel since travelling by the sometimes dangerous sleeper busses has been phased out. Looking forward to your next video from Xinjiang!
The reason for not taking photos is that there will be many people resting and sleeping in the sleeper compartment, which means there will be privacy issues. So no one is allowed to take photos in that compartment
Let me help you sort out the misunderstandings caused by your language barrier and lack of understanding of Chinese laws. 1. Your ticket is a standing ticket, and there are no seats. You can use the empty seats, but you need to move away when others arrive. 2. If you don't buy a sleeper ticket, it is forbidden to enter the sleeper. As for shooting videos in the sleeper, it is very annoying. This has nothing to do with the law. Even normal people don't want to be filmed in the place where they sleep. 3. Train attendants rarely receive foreign tourists, and the methods for foreign tourists are cumbersome. In addition, you don't know Chinese, so communication is more troublesome. 4. The first reason why the police asked you to turn off the camera is because this is a sleeper. Shooting is very impolite and illegal. The second reason is that no one likes to shoot in the face. Everyone has the right to refuse. 5. I don't know much about the laws against foreigners, but for Chinese people, we can shoot Chinese police during law enforcement, and we have the right to supervise. 6. The conductor found out that you are foreigners and bought a 36-hour standing ticket. As a conductor, he knows how painful this journey is, so he took you to find an empty seat (temporarily empty, the owner may get on at the next stop), but then he found that the seat is in the middle of the train. If other passengers get on, it will be difficult for you to give up your seat, so he violated the rules and took you to another seat. I don’t know why this seat was empty the whole time, but his behavior of giving you this seat for free is definitely against the rules. After all, whether Chinese or foreigners are equal, you enjoy better treatment than Chinese people without any physical problems. It can be understood that the conductor is kind, or it can be understood that he is operating in violation of the rules, but the result is good. You use standing tickets, but get a seat for 36 hours. 7. Regarding the issue of noise, I have explained before that this is a direct train for remote areas, serving older rural people. Most of them have not received much education. They are used to such a noisy way of communication, and no one thinks there is a problem. We can all understand it, so you can see that there are not many young people and children taking this train. Most young people and city people will take high-speed trains and planes, or use sleeper berths. 8. Regarding the issue of buying food and water. Normally, this kind of train will sell food and water, but you can also see that there are many people in the carriage. It is difficult to walk, let alone push a small cart full of food, so it is impossible to sell, but there is a restaurant in front of the train. You can go to the restaurant to buy food and water by yourself. From this train, you don’t see any children or young people, because this is a train that goes directly to remote areas and is prepared for poor rural elderly people. This train is cheap and does not have too many rules. It gives poor rural elderly people a chance to travel all over China and allows smokers to have a place to smoke (the high-speed rail is very fast, so smoking is prohibited anywhere). There are not many such trains in China. Basically, few young people and urban residents take them. Young people and urban residents mainly rely on bullet trains and airplanes to travel, or drive themselves. If you want to find very poor travel methods and people, then I will tell you that there are many. There are many poor people in China, many uneducated people, and many bad people, but so what? This country has a population of 1.4 billion. Decades of development have allowed the vast majority of Chinese people to live a wealthy life, receive a good education, and have such a good railway and road network. As a country from zero to one, this is already a great result. There are too many different cities, nationalities, people, and transportation methods in China. We can't use one clip to represent all of them. We should get in touch with them more and feel the different China. Finally, let me express my love for you. I like the elegance and humor of boys and the cuteness and smile of girls. I follow your youtube, facebook, instgram and China's tiktok. I watch every video of yours in China, even the comments under the video. I hope you can enjoy your trip in China, look forward to seeing more of your videos, and wish you a fruitful job.
I appreciate your kind words at the end but it seems you took a lot of negativity from this video which i simply didn't portray. I never complained about the noise, i mentioned it and how crazy it was but in a thrilling way. I joked and laughed they way they shout at each other, but in a way of endearment. You saw me playing and joking with the people around me, being respectful with elder Uyghur gentlemen etc. I even made a specific recording so that I could tell everyone that the police man had looked after us dearly, even retrieving water from the staff room for us. When we say that the train ran out of water, I don't mean they couldn't sell water, I mean literally nothing would come out of the taps or the hot-water machines. Completely empty on water and it was 28 degrees celcius in the cabin with 10 hours to go. I even showed us eating some Noodles which we were able to get from the dining car before the water drained up. Don't think negatively about this video, life isn't perfect and you will never find me making 'perfect videos' i make real videos about the reality of travelling in all different ways, including challenging adventures like this.
@@JackAynsleyTravel Thanks for your reply, this is my first time to talk to a video blogger. Actually I need to apologize, a lot of my words here are not directed at you, but more to respond to the attacks on Facebook that are not clear, but I mixed up the way of replying, I need to apologize for this. In short, I like your videos, your personalities, the way you treat people, and your active interaction with all kinds of local people. I will continue to follow, and hope you can gain a lot!
@@JackAynsleyTravel I have watched many of your videos, which are great, but I still feel that there is a certain distance between you and ordinary Chinese people. Although there is communication, there is no in-depth contact. If there is a chance in the future, I hope you can get in touch with the lives of local people, visit their families, and experience the complete lives of ordinary people and the way relatives interact with each other. Perhaps this will make your videos more in-depth and more content will appear. Looking forward to it!
Thanks, I make videos all over the world though not just China. Also you should check our Beijing hutong video. You will never find a video of a foreigner going into the Hutong and drinking with locals - but we did. We're the only ones who have done this train. There are many videos on TH-cam of foreigners in China, but we're doing something different regularly.
@@JackAynsleyTravel Yes, I saw it. I got to know you through this video. Many Chinese people got to know you through this video and felt your elegance and kindness.
I hope that our country will be stronger and develop better, so that one day, every ordinary people will not need to buy a standing ticket, and high-speed rail will one day be able to reach Xinjiang.
First of all, you should thank the train crew for finding you an empty seat. Secondly, take a long-distance local train must not buy a standing ticket, you buy standing tickets around are short-distance passengers. Finally, there are not many trains from Chongqing to Urumqi, and only local trains, you can take the high-speed train to Xi 'an, and then take the bullet train to Urumqi.
@@龍-r2mIf the police not help them, hard to imagine what happened,mostly people just buy standing tickets for short distance,34 hours make police and train stuff confused and shocked😢
@@phil6445 I think this aꚃꚃholε vlogger is doing this so he can show to the West "proof & truth" of the nonsense western media is reporting about China and in return hope to attract those China-haters to his channel.
以前觉得国内这种绿皮车很折腾，记得当时从昆明回长沙坐了36个小时，全程人挤人，怕人家抢我的座位，36个小时饭没吃一口，厕所不上一次😂 直到后来看到外国人坐南亚火车经历，破烂不说，空调是坏的，火车还晚点20个小时，才知道中国也就人挤点，其余都不是问题😀 别看列车员一脸严肃，但还好心为这两个无座票的人找座位，太善良了。 The staff in the train looks like stressful, but he is so kind, try to find seats and bring you there, although you guys got standing tickets
If any one wanna experience long-distance journey on a slow train, don't try standing tickets if you are not a vlogger trying to make some unique content. Taking a bunk in the sleeping compartment will be a much better option. In this video, you can see the conductor let them in the sleeping compartment probably because he's tired of communication with a language barrier. But in fact anyone with a standing ticket is not allowed to be there.
The person in the latest video about camouflage is not a military personnel, he is probably just a migrant worker from the countryside to the city, because camouflage clothes are more resistant to dirt. Military personnel are generally invisible and do not participate in social activities, and unless there are large natural disasters, they will come out to help society and the people under the coordination of the government and the army. Including the uniformed personnel in the previous video are not police officers, they are just ordinary train workers. In fact, it is easy to tell all the policemen apart. They will have the English sign "police" on their uniforms. There are also more security guards who wear similar police uniforms on the street. In any case, wherever you see the police and military personnel do not need to be afraid, but can seek their help (except criminals). China is very harmonious (of course, every country and society has some "populists" who are very few, and most of them are hiding on the Internet)! So enjoy the trip!
Dude, I cannot stop laughing watching your video. You said it right at the start that you got the cheapest train but went into the carriage with bunker beds. After that you looked so lost and as if you got miss treated and escorted all the way to your standing carriage. You were filming in bunker beds and saying oh I do not understand why I need to turn my camera off, this really made me laugh ;) Why don't you make another video about getting an economy flight ticket and go sit in first class seat on your plane, and film everything and show us what happens ;)
@@efei33 The staff asked these uncles whether they bought the standing -ticket and kicked them out before asking them whether they were going to go off at the next station, which means the staff never knew the information. After that, the staff still wanted to translate these two uncles to other seats, which demonstrates the staff only took care of how to give foreigners seats regardless of the local's feelings. To take a step back, why a standing-ticket person should give his or her seat to another standing-ticket person before he or she arrives?
@@lan-520 the staff has a protable device to check id cards and seats information. they know which seat will be available for long time. and chinese ppl willing to give up their seats upon staff's arrangement
Before boarding the train, they declared that they had bought no-seat tickets, just as they had bought economy class tickets, and of course they were not allowed to go to first class, even if they were standing in first class. In fact, they can also choose to walk to Urumqi, it is another experience, it is their own choice. Enjoy the journey.
In fact, the high-speed rail tickets are sold out, but it is still not recommended for foreigners to go out during the holidays in China. There is so much time in China that there is no need to squeeze in the few holidays in China. Especially more than 30 hours
Modernization may not be good for the poor in rural and have management problem. They may not know press botton and pull automatic toilet door by force. Put into their shoes, rural may be thankful have the freedom to choose a cheap and familiar mode to achieve destination.
Actually, the standing ticket has the same price with the normal 2nd class coach ticket... So i would say he should be able to sit if nobody else is sitting.
As a Chinese person, I want to say, man, you are really amazing. This kind of long journey in a hard seat is absolutely a hellish experience. I once took a hard seat for 13 hours, and it was really unbearable. The topic you chose, '34 hours in a hard seat,' is excellent. You have experienced what it's like for 'the lowest class of people in China' on a long journey. Their endurance is incredibly strong.
Jack/Paige… God bless you both! Thank you for showing your travel experience throughout your journey, with an open mindset, understanding, respect of other cultures, and showing your appreciation with kindness in exchange with one another. I love watching your content which does not have any controversy, biased, hate, discrimination. Your videos just clearly show ppl someone like me who would never or simply afraid to go to places by afar miles away from home. I would feel very safe traveling through China, but I was a little scared watching your journey when you traveled to Pakistan’s and India. I’m a Chinese born Canadian.. one who doesn’t travel to China as often as I would, but after watching your videos… I definitely will make a trip there. So many TH-cam vloggers out there are not very nice showing a distorted facts of China so your channel is just a breath of fresh air. Thank you sir Jack, Madam Paige! Love you both!!! The world would be a much better place having couples like you both!
More than ten years ago, there were very few high-speed trains in China, and for many people, the ticket prices were too expensive. Most people of our generation have had similar experiences. It looks very real and nostalgic. Thank you very much for the genuine sharing.
Basically, we always fly from Chongqing to Urumqi. Taking a train, especially with only standing tickets, is just too crazy. The initial 'policeman' wasn’t actually a policeman; he was a train attendant. It was thanks to his help that you were able to have seats the whole way.
First of all, it's one truly adventure and hard journey, not only for two non-citizen visitors, but also for native. Besides it's cost much less than other way. From ChongQing to Ürümqi, it will cost 200$(US dollar) at least by plane, only 70$ by Green-skin train(about 50km/h! there's no bullet train for this line yet). And the man on train who lead Jacks to the seat, he's the staff of train, not police.It's his job to make train works smooth.If there's vacancy on sleeper compartments, he can ticket Jack from standing upto sleeper. As we can see from the video, it's a lot more passengers than vacancy, then he doing much warm heart than his duty, take the Jacks to some seats. There's several passengers using standing tickets squatting at the junction of the train carriages, it's common on the train.
As a Westerner, I believe you are one of the first or second to travel by the green train. This is not a Western tourist train; it is purely a means of transportation. It is very cheap but equivalent to its price. The only reason people choose it is because it is cheap. The British are the least tolerant of speaking loudly or eating food in public, but for them, this is just a part of life.
Personally, the journey was excruciating and painful. But, as I said clearly in the video, we were surrounded by great people. Friendly people who we shared jokes with and were comrades through the uncomfortable 34 hours. Even the police guy, again which i report in the video, was a very nice man and looked after us throughout the journey. Even personally bringing us water from the staff's office when the train ran out of water. The chinese people are some of my absolute favourite, we were in this together and we respected eachother. I think we all hated the conditions, but had an adventure together. That's what you will find on my channel.
你从卧铺车厢到座位车厢，路上有个很拥挤的吧台，就是补卧铺的柜台，这种长距离旅行，即使没买到票也可以通过补票的方式晚一点得到一个床 You go from the sleeper compartment to the seat compartment, there is a very crowded bar on the road, which is the counter for making up the sleeper. This kind of long-distance travel, even if you don't buy a ticket, you can get a bed later by making up the ticket
In case anyone encounters the same situation as Jack, give me some advice within my knowledge. But if you really want to try something similar to Jack's experience this time, you can skip it. 1. There are still many green trains in China, not all of which are high-speed trains. The biggest advantage of a green train is its affordability, especially for those like Jack who have no seat tickets. However, many regulations on green trains are relatively relaxed compared to high-speed trains, for example, smoking is not prohibited on green trains. 2. If you want to go to a place where there is only a green train and there are no seats left, you can buy a no seat ticket first, and then after getting on the train, ask the conductor if they can get a replacement seat or sleeper ticket. Because there are people getting off the train in the middle, it is very likely to get a seat or sleeper ticket. 3. If you are unable to get a replacement seat or sleeper ticket, you can only randomly find a place to sit like Jack. It is not recommended to find a seat in the sleeper carriage because the ticket inspection in the sleeper is very rigorous. If you really can't bear it, you can go to the dining car for a meal, so you can sit for at least one or two hours. 4. I have heard that some high-speed trains do not have tickets, but I don't know if they still have them now. However, generally speaking, high-speed trains are built for each person.
According to my knowledge, 'smoking is not prohibited on green trains' is not true. Smoking is not permitted in any public place, though I have to admit that there may be a tiny monority of rule-breakers ignore the regulation.
hey, Jack & Paige. Since the algorithm recommended your video of drinking with two Beijing locals（北京大爷） in a Beijing hutong, I’ve become a fan of your channel. That video was especially authentic and captivating! I really like your personalities and filming style, which remind me of people from northeastern China. Your catchphrase, "Nihao, Laotie" (你好，老铁), is actually from northeastern China, and not all Chinese people understand it. So, when I see you using it to greet people from other regions of China in your videos, they might understand it but aren’t familiar with it as a greeting, which makes them a bit unsure how to respond, especially the older generation. However, thanks to 抖音 (Chinese TikTok), "laotie" （老铁）has become a popular internet slang term nationwide. 留言的第二部分，我想用母语中文来表达。我一直很期待你们这一期坐30多小时“绿皮火车"经历，因为在我小时候，二三十年前，如果想坐火车出行，只有这样的“绿皮火车”（慢速火车），无论旅行、出差、还是探亲，都只能这样。你这一期视频，让我很怀念那个年代，不要误会，我并不怀念火车的味道和拥挤，LOL。我想说的是看视频的人，没法体会你的疲惫，身上都是汗无法洗澡，有人在你耳旁喊叫，无法深度入睡，喝不上你想要的热咖啡和冰水，我都懂，我都经历过，谢谢你把我带回那个年代，但你和Paige的这个经历是珍贵的，你更了解了中国人和中国的变化。高铁并不在一些小镇停靠，以及票价昂贵（至少对于农民工是昂贵的），所以你看到还是有很多人因为各种原因选择乘坐“绿皮车”，中国人和中国人的生活差距还是很大的。很显然，时至今日，我自己是不会选坐这样的“绿皮车”了，我相信你俩也绝对不会再选了，这是一生一次的体验，并且不能多于一次，不是吗？哈哈哈哈 首先Jack你很聪明和明智，当别的TH-camr都在体验中国高铁的时候，你反向思考，选择了记录这里。然后，我要说你们两个很勇敢，你们不是为了拍片子，只是坐几个小时的绿皮车，敢挑战这么长时间的“绿皮车”，我很钦佩，敬礼~~~~~~~~~ 但我看到其他的朋友留言说的很忠诚，你确实应该谢谢乘务员，他们给了你外国人的礼遇，帮你找到了座位。我们那时候有座位就是幸运和幸福的了，各种味道和嘈杂都能忍耐的。你要知道，我小时候会爬到你和Paige的座位下，睡在那个狭小的空间，你就能知道那味道和环节有多糟。我知道这一切不完美，快速发展也有很多问题，但我还是感谢这一切的变化，发生在一代人的身上，这是正面的。这可以让我们的孩子不用在经历这些，至少是可以有选择。 最后，我要说如今的"绿皮车"也是充满故事的，比起你对着镜头和我说，如果你能多学一些普通话，就更棒了！你可以从身边那些有着烟味、也许不懂的社交距离和礼仪，但非常淳朴的老百姓口中听到很多精彩的故事，也许你们的30多个小时不会难么难熬，屏幕前的我们，就更有眼福了。 And finally, my favorite part was when you both, after all the hardships, got off the train, stretched your legs, exercised, and breathed in the fresh air. That dance was so romantic and charming! I love you guys from Newcastle~~
For the second part of my comment, I’d like to express myself in my native language, Chinese. I’ve been really looking forward to your episode about the 30-hour journey on the "green train." Back in my childhood, like twenty or thirty years ago, if you wanted to travel by train, the only option was these "green trains" (slow trains). Whether it was for travel, business trips, or visiting family, that was it. Your video really brought back memories of that time. Don’t get me wrong-I don’t miss the smell and the crowd, LOL. What I mean is that viewers can’t really get how exhausted you must have been, sweating with no way to shower, people shouting next to you, no deep sleep, and not being able to get the hot coffee or cold water you wanted. I get it; I’ve been there. Thanks for taking me back to those days. But your experience with Paige is priceless-you’ve got a deeper understanding of Chinese people and the changes in China. High-speed trains don’t stop at some small towns, and the tickets are pricey (at least for migrant workers), so you still see a lot of people taking the "green trains" for various reasons. There's a big gap between the lives of different Chinese people. Clearly, I wouldn’t choose to take such a "green train" today, and I bet neither would you guys. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and it doesn’t need to happen more than once, right? Hahaha. First off, Jack, you’re really smart and insightful. When other TH-camrs are experiencing China’s high-speed trains, you thought differently and chose to document this. I also have to say that you both are really brave. You didn’t just ride the green train for a few hours to make a video; you dared to challenge such a long journey on the "green train," which I really admire. Salute~~~~~~~~~ But I saw some other comments from friends saying you should thank the train staff, as they gave you special treatment and helped you find seats. Back in our day, having a seat was lucky and happy, and we could endure all kinds of smells and noise. When I was a kid, I would crawl under the seats like where you and Paige sat, and sleep in that cramped space, so you can imagine how bad it smelled and how tough the conditions were. I know it’s not perfect, and rapid development brings many issues, but I’m still grateful for all these changes happening within a generation-they are positive. At least our kids have choices and don’t have to go through this. Lastly, I want to say that today’s "green trains" are still full of stories. Compared to talking to the camera, if you could learn a bit more Mandarin, you might hear many wonderful stories from the simple folks around you, those who smell like smoke and don’t understand social distance and etiquette but are very genuine. Your 30-plus hours might not have been so hard, and we viewers would be even more entertained.
Great insights, I enjoyed reading your comment. I also subscribed after watching their heart warming interaction with the two gentlemen in the hutongs!
I rode this train 20 years ago, I still remember the 24 hour journey with no seats,fresh in memory.I wish you a happy trip, Xinjiang is a beautiful place(from translation).🥰🥰
Hi，Jack. In fact, there is a trick to riding this green train. Usually, we go to the No. 7 Train carriage (next to the Dining car carriage).In the first instance we get on the train and ask the train attendant , if it is possible to upgrade to a sleeper ticket. I also follow you in bilibili, and in your first video(16:28), there are people like that upgrading their sleeper tickets. Because there will be some people for some personal reasons do not come up or cancel the order, and then there will be empty sleeper and seat. This kind of train is usually not the use of smart phone tickets middle-aged and elderly, most young people are willing to pay more money for this, is really sad, for your spirit I admire.
An absolutely incredible video. Incredible journey! Thank you for sharing this with your TH-cam audience. I subscribed your channel instantly after viewing this video. Great job lad!
I think they're so lucky got prioritized by the train officer so they got seat. Those officers got confused find out two foreigners stranded inside a low class train, they thought something must be gone wrong.
Wowzers now that was a tough journey and a salute you both for doing it !! It must have been such a struggle but to see the ones that had to stand or lie in floors was crazy . Thanks for sharing the reality of life 🙌
local residents will choose green trains when traveling, because they are only one or a few stops away, and standing tickets are not painful for them. But never choose a standing ticket for more than four hours, you will be very miserable unless you have no choice. Or very courageous to challenge.
We knew it！ Even Chinese people are not easy to stay positive after 36 hours on an old train by sitting those hard seats. Well, you should thank to those people who help you find these seats, anyhow. Anyhow, respect.
1986 to 1990, I took such train from Chengdu to Shanghai, 48 hours, then 8 hours transit, then another 24 hours to Fuzhou to study. I slept under the seat or on luggage holding area, those were the best place to slept.
I haven’t been on a green train in over twenty years. When I was in college 20 years ago, I also bought standing tickets. From Beijing to Chengdu, I stood all day and all night! ! Hahahaha, but it’s funny. Every train in China has police deployed to maintain law and order. This is normal. They will keep everyone safe. The older generation of Chinese people are very frugal, so it is necessary to keep these cheap green trains. Just like my mother, she has a lot of money, but she is reluctant to buy even a bottle of drink when she goes to play.
You are very courageous. When I was in school, I only did a 12-hour green car ride. I bought a sleeper berth at that time, and it felt like the time was very long. Now the high-speed rail conditions are much better, but it is not as comfortable as a sleeper berth, haha.
There is good reason why these low class green trains are still in use, these trains play important role to link those small towns, villages that remotely from major city, provide affordable transport to people. High speed train normally stops at major city/town.
At 11:31 in the video, due to your tickets are standing tickets in the ordinary carriage, you are not allowed to occupy the seats in the sleeper carriage. The police asked you to leave the sleeper carriage and return to the ordinary carriage. This is the Chinese riding rules, and you should abide by it.
Mad respect guys! You have broke my record, the longest I have taken on that train was 28 hours with a hard sit ticket when I was studying in the uni (because student discount for 50% off). It was painful, I can't image to take that again
China's railway system is an independent kingdom with its own police and courts. The military police will never intervene in the railway system unless it is wartime. In China, there are no military police; camouflage uniforms belong to field troops, but generally, they are a type of clothing that ordinary people love to wear. Anyway, I admire your courage to take China's long-distance green train. Thirty years ago, I took it once for a five-hour journey, and I swore I would never try to travel long distances by train again. In fact, I have kept that promise.
When I was in college, I also had a fantasy of taking a twenty-hour train ride to Urumqi, to see the scenery along the way and feel the different atmosphere of life, but I never thought of a standing ticket, and then I never did so again!😂
Hope everyone can know that there are 3000 kilometers from Chongqing to Urumqi. The ticket without seat is ¥278.5, which is approximately $38 or 30 pounds, that is, about 0.1 yuan or 0.014 dollars or 0.011 pounds per kilometer.
This video also proved that why China is still a developing country,per GDP is only 10000 dollars,wealth gap is still huge in China,people in eastern China live better life than those in the western China.Living standards in city is usually better than rural area. Northwest is one of the least developed areas in China,especially US’s wrongful sanction on Xinjiang,it will only leading people’s life in Xinjiang poorer and bring chaos and destabilization to China. Hope Xinjiang can develop better under US sanctions.Stay strong China,stay strong Xinjiang.
It is already an UPPER MIDDLE INCOME nation where it has reached around USD 12-13000. Xinjiang’s foreign trade is NOT dependent on the US as it traditionally trades mostly with Russia and Central Asia, and there are FTAs China have forged with other countries and regions. And the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) since 2013.
@@侯嘉琪-t8sThere are other news items from Chinese media outlets like Xinhua and CGTN/CCTV featuring Uyghur workers in factories producing textiles, automobiles, machineries and equipment of various kinds, oil and gas products, food products and those in the retail, transportation, tourism and logistics sectors.
Well, China is still a developing country with 1.4 billion people. if you go out of your way to find some hardships you will not be disappointed. But one thing is for sure, your safety is guaranteed.
I am a person from rural China. The author experienced 36 hours on a train in China. It was also an unforgettable experience for me. When I was a child, I took such trains from one city to another until high-speed trains became available. This is my memory too.
Crazy, I took a train for 8 hours and I felt like screaming, sitting for 8 hours made my body ache, I give you a thumbs up for being able to survive on the train for 34 hours 😂😂😂
OMG! you guys really got the nerves taking the green train in China with a no-seat ticket. I worked in China from 1990 to 2016, I have never been on a green train. But you guys are lucky, the train stuff actually treat you very nice, give you special treatment in gettinvg you seats, otherwise 32 hours standing in a green train might make you nuts 🤣
You're amazing, as a Chinese, I haven't traveled on a train for that long in almost a decade, and that's with no seat tickets! That was my experience when I was a student.
But most of the people here won't follow the whole process you've been through, they get up and down for a few stops, and for people who really needs to transfer from place to place, It's the only way to solve it by selling no-seat tickets. You actually can pay for a bed on the half way once anybody gets off the train and the beds become available, just ask the conductor. Also, another way is going to the dining car, buy yourself a meal, You can have the seat forever.
These men in uniform are train attendants。They have a small lounge at the head or back of each carriage。There are usually one or two police officers on the whole train for emergencies, but they are not authorized to arrange you a seat 。
Still selling the tickets without seats is because to take care of the people cannot afford the price of the berth or high speed train, otherwise all the “green trains”would be replaced by the high speed trains. You can see a lot of people in the carriage seems like farmers or villagers from remote areas, this low price ticket helps them a lot.
Your video has brought back memories of experience of travelling on the similar kind of train from Shanghai to Guangzhou in 1988 and after one night in Guangzhou, rushing back home to Hong Kong. It was the first of my visits to China. My first visit was an interflow trip to 2 universities in Nanjing and Shanghai during the summer holiday in 1988 when I was studying at the University of HK. The experience was unforgettable as every inch of floor was taken up by passengers sitting or lying. There was even a man sleeping underneath my seat. it was a bit chaotic but luckily, no crimes happened. Witnessing the situation, I prayed for my motherland. Now, I take pride in the unprecedented developments in China. I still could remember a Japanese friend who told me that China deserved to be invaded by the Japanese armies in history because of survival of the fittest which was the law of Nature. I hope that China will remain strong and has the power to protect itself from invasions.
I think the blogger try to blend in with the community not going well but the barrier of language makes the other thinking indeed China are not what you think it is”rude people” but I appreciate you have a guts travelling on the lowest class of the journey 👍👍👍👍👍. You just give us wide open access to China . Rich & Poor but foreigners always have special treatment if you in the right place & right time . Please use the voice translation for you easy to communicate with others soo there’s no confusion between you & your viewers. I’m really enjoying your journey 🎉🎉🎉🎉 . Please uploading more 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 .
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The 34 Hour journey was excruciating and painful. But, as I said clearly in the video, we were surrounded by great people. Friendly people who we shared jokes with and were comrades through the uncomfortable 34 hours. Even the police guy, again which i report in the video, was a very nice man and looked after us throughout the journey. Even personally bringing us water from the staff's office when the train ran out of water.
The Chinese people are some of my absolute favourites, we were in this together and we respected each other. I think we all hated the conditions but had an adventure together. That's what you will find on my channel.
我曾经做过这种火车四个多小时，腰都痛了，你们居然做了三十几个小时
I haven't been on this low speed green train for almost ten years.I really admire your courage. But for me I would choose to fly to Urumqi.😂😂😂😂
Thanks to these two cuties, u guys achieved a big challenge. The reason why the tickets they oversold is maybe u r in holidays? And if it is during holidays, ppl from country side will wanna go to the cities to travel. However, due to the geographical environment, there will not be enough trains to take all ppl who r not rich or be thrifty to the destination they wanna go. So they sell the standing tickets and can be seated when on one there. This video reminds me I have took this train 11 years ago, it’s suffering when I was sitting 16hrs. Thanks the infrastructure development these years. Since abt 7years ago, I can easily take 5hrs high speed train to my home(4-tier city in China). Now, I just hope everyone can gain more money and enjoy the scenery along the way back home through new technologies:)
the last time I took this kind of train is 15 years ago…..admire you
BTW, there are not polices
作为一个中国人，为你解释一下。车上的工作人员都非常的职业。
你们买的是站票，所以不能在卧铺车厢休息，你最开始坐的位子是为卧铺的上铺旅客休息准备的。所以第一个男车务员（不是警察）把你叫走，并穿过整个卧铺区域。
之后你半路遇到的是车上的警察，他提醒你，卧铺禁止拍照，因为这会严重侵犯了他人隐私（他没有说明）。
第一个男乘务员为你第一次安排的位置是他手机上显示的暂时无人的位置（因为你是外国人，语言不通，给你的特殊服务）。
之后他应该是把你们的情况进行了上报，他的上级将预留的备用座位给了你们。所以你们被又安排了一次位置，虽然位置不好（毗邻吸烟区），但始终没有别人购买。
你说十分钟过一次的警察，确实可能只是乘务员。
所以列车上的工作人员的行为非常的职业，而且因为你是语言不通的外国人，还为你免费升级了服务
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I tried translating the above Chinese text and made some modifications to make it easier to understand.
【As a Chinese person, let me explain this to you. The staff on board are very professional.
You bought standing-room-only tickets, so you cannot rest in the sleeper compartment. The seat you initially occupied was reserved for upper berth passengers in the sleeper compartment. That's why the first male attendant (he is not a police officer) asked you to leave and escorted you through the entire sleeper area.
Later, the people you encountered halfway was the railway police officer on board, and he reminded you that taking photos in the sleeper car is prohibited because it seriously infringes on others' privacy; but he did not specify further on this (The reason is simple: because he only knows a few basic English words and is unable to express thoughts and feelings completely fluently. In the future, with the widespread adoption of high-tech solutions like AI, this barrier will be eliminated.).
The first male attendant initially arranged seats for you based on the temporarily unoccupied seats displayed on his phone (attendants can access the internal system through App to check seat availability).
Afterwards, that attendant likely reported your situation, and his superior assigned you reserved spare seats (the superior could see in the system that the seats had not been purchased by anyone else).
That's why you were reassigned to another seats--- although the location was not ideal, being next to the smoking area.
Because you are foreigners and there is a language barrier, they provided you with special service. (All this can help you understand the so-called 'super-national treatment of foreigners in China').
The "police" you mentioned passing by every ten minutes could indeed just be train attendants.
(I believe that at least nine and a half out of every ten people you saw wearing uniforms that day were train attendants/cabin crews.）
Therefore, the train staff acted very professionally and because you were foreigners with a language barrier, they also upgraded your service for free】
Your efforts of writing all these paragraphs have gone to waste if you write in a language nobody understands.
@@GL-iv4rw说什么鸟话，全世界就只有英语一种语言吗？
@@GL-iv4rw 中文也是联合国通用语言，你可以用翻译器。
About 200 yuan, less than 30 dollars, can span 3,000 kilometres, which is the meaning of its existence. This train brings great benefits to many people.
You should be grateful to the train attendants for giving you exceptional treatment. They even helped you find seats, which is unheard of. Typically, if you have a standing ticket, you can take any empty seat, but once the seat is claimed, you must give it up to the person with the reserved seat.
But anyway, the Chinese people are very friendly and kind, so enjoy your journey.
True!!!
If the situation is reversed, if a Chinese person on a ghetto bus in South L.A, he will probably get robbed or beat up.
Staff and policemen stopped his recording in the sleeper compartment in case he exposed passengers' privacy to the public. For example, someone likes nake sleep in the quilt. If you notice this point, you will understand why nobody banned his recording in the sitting compartment. Even the security camera only records the aisle.
Frankly, I wouldn't even take photos of anyone's face without their permission - it's just plain rude, but that's just my opinion. Something which some people of the YT and social media generation don't understand.
They bought standing tickets. Please follow the standing ticket rules
You bought a ticket with no seats but the train conductor moved local people so you could have a seat next to each other. If you turn this around, do you think if a Chinese couple was travelling to UK would a English train conductor move their people for the Chinese to sit?
应该不会 ，国情也不同，所以不是每个国家都像中国一样，而且中国应该是可以宽容接纳更多外国人的地方，世界大同是终极目标
@@小卖部部长-f8n來者是客，當然優待！😂😂
good point
中国人太友善😂就不该管他们，让他们蹲在门口就好😂
If there was space, yes.
你们很幸运，由于你们的西方面孔，得到了列车员的特殊照顾，让你们买无座票也能有标准座位来坐，你们原来的遭遇应该是你镜头旁边那些过道上站着或蹲着的人那样。列车员把车上预留的位子指定你们坐了。You are very lucky. Because of your Western faces, the conductor gave you special care, allowing you to buy a standard seat even if you bought a no-seat ticket. Your original experience should be the same as those people standing or squatting in the aisle next to your camera. The conductor designated the reserved seats for you.
white privilege
不是啥特殊照顾，乘务员可能就是看他们乘车时间太长，找了个临时没人坐的给他们坐，如果有人拿票来了，乘务员也说了，他们也要让出来的。其他买站票的中国人如果看到有空位没人坐也会坐啊，这个不用乘务员引导，但是外国人不懂这个潜规则，就引导了他们一下
The police officers arranged your seat not to restrict your freedom, but to see that you are a foreigner and it is not easy to take such a long journey They specially found a seat for you, hoping you do not misunderstand. You shouldn't hate them, you should thank them more!
Not everybody in uniform police officiers LOL They are just train attendants. But I agree with you that they helped him a lot and with a good intention.
Westerners have been scared of Western police since childhood, because Chinese police are the same as Western police? When it comes to police, it is nervous and fearful. 🤣Chinese police are more for serving the people!
@@aroonsubway2079the train system in china does have police system
But i cannot tell in this one
True!!
@@2024-l9n中国的警察只负责抓坏人，你不是坏人你怕什么，又不是国家机密，你这样反而让人很不适
站票，却一直有座，肯定是列车长特殊安排给你们的座位。那个脉动的水，也应该花钱买的，那可能也是列车长或者乘务员自己掏钱买给你们的。
说的没错，那个座位就是预留给列车员的，我每次抢不到坐票都会去坐那个位置，因为列车员大部分时间不在这个位置上。
20多年前，我小的时候也坐过这样的火车36-42小时到杭州上学，每年过年往返都是这样来回，有过一次无坐票，站7小时的经历，以前火车上还经历过小偷半夜拿刀片割包偷钱的经历，当然现在这样的火车已经没有偷窃事情发生了，实际这两年轻人已经得到乘务员和列车长的特殊照顾了。即使如此，坐这样的火车，还是噩梦一样的经历，人太多过道都挤满，没有任何空隙的地方，空气混杂，只是不是所有人都喜欢这样的火车生涯，包括我自己在内。
这老外真是闲的，34个小时的路程居然买站票，给自己找难受。就算坐票都难受得要命。
@@javazhang6309however that's how we know the real world bro🥸
@@javazhang6309 他们就是故意买无座票，记录中国最底层的出行方式，再和其他国家类似的火车比较。一句话，就是想通过视频告诉你，中国虽然有先进的高铁，也有落后的绿皮车和视频里的百态中国人。
Train policemen give his seats to you, you should say thanks to him, Jack
@@Kdj532 he is not that mature afterall , the mostache can be deceiving, lol
Dear friend, this isn't called the "real side," it's called the "another side."
Both the clean and tidy high-speed trains and the noisy, old green trains are real.
Chinese people do not deny our backward side. There are still many low-income groups in China, and these slow, old trains will continue to exist for a long time in the future.
At the same time, our high-speed trains will continue to extend to every rural area. Backwardness and advancement coexist and are both real.
High-speed trains represent the achievements of our development over the past forty years, and the train you are riding, along with everyone you see on it, represents our development goals for the next forty years.
Well said! I was born in Beijing. I'm from a regular middle class family. I never had to take a slow train. My family either travels by speed train or planes. You cannot say Beijing and Shanghai are not real China either. I am real. My families are real. All 20 million people in Beijing are real. We are part of China. We are one side of many, just like the the people on your train. Denying any progress as fake China is ridiculous!
绿皮车时速超过100公里，怎么就落后了？你们这种人是怎么练到这种自卑的？
我很纳闷儿,你们这种见到洋人就下跪的性格是怎么养成的？生怕洋人生气是吗
最后一段升华了。让我想起了扶贫干部的金句：我们努力不是为了摆脱贫困的家乡，而是为了让家乡摆脱贫困
Why do Mainland Chinese always talk like robots? I am Chinese I love my country, our high speed train is so awesome.
作为一个中国人，我二十年前坐过这种火车且是站票，再也不想经历那种苦，我欣赏你们敢于体验，但是让一位可爱的女士体验有些冒险（太幸苦）.
High speed train? Hahahaha!🤣🤣🤣🤢
20年前老兄現在已是2024時代滾輪是不會停止轉動看看中國20年發生了多大巨變！
@@Zerpentsa6598 This is nothing. We don’t have high-speed railways in many places now. For example, in the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, only Linzhi to Lhasa has a high-speed railway. So we will work harder.
我觉得我要为外国朋友科普一下，这种绿皮火车，在中国的火车系统，已经非常少了。
这种火车现在之所以还在运行，一个是避免资源被浪费，火车还可以运行。
另一个就是便宜啊，虽然可能列车的运行距离非常长，但是大部分乘客都是中短途上下车，车会一直在走走停停，
主要运力得到最大利用，而且经济实惠。 如果真是旅游、商务，基本还是高铁为主
@@Zerpentsa6598 stupid south african sh*t's follower..
Firstly, your seat free ticket is not allowed to enter the sleeper workshop. Secondly, you should be aware that you have received preferential treatment, otherwise your trip will be like the person sitting on the ground in the video, with no seat for 32 hours
旁边那哥们闭着眼睛好像练英文听力呢哈哈哈
Seats were booked out. So what happened to the people that purchased those 2 seats?
有可能是和他一起上车的，前面下车了，还有可能是乘务长给了他们的特殊待遇，安排到别的地方去了
crazy man. you bought an no seat ticket for 34hrs trip😂
@@Mystic-HSeems the two seats for special guests not sale.The 30 hours journey is horrible trust me,When i was a student experienced too; This English gentleman is bravely, well done &welcome to China.
Don't worry. We Chinese always know well that foreigners visit our country they are our guests. Not our enemy.
We will always try to be nice and offer them help if needed to make them feel comfortable and have an unforgettable experience in our country.
I agree. That's exactly how I felt when visiting China. Everyone seemed to be extra patient and kind toward me. My favorite city was Luoyang
除了西方媒体 愿意来中国看看的至少说明人家不反对咱们 这也就够了 咱没啥特别高的要求
虽然你总体的评价还算客观，但是我不是很赞同你对中国乘务员和乘警的看法，事实是他们一直在帮助你们，因为你们是站票，而中国好客的传统也让你们得到有别于本地人的照顾！ 乌鲁木齐本来就是一个敏感的城市，因为多年前的在美国支持下东突恐怖分子的暴乱让这个城市一度陷于恐怖，因此中国加大了对该地区的治安管控，这也成为了美国及西方攻击中国的理由，一边支持东突及独立恐怖分子制作暴乱（甚至连自己的宗教领袖都不放过），一边指责中国打击这些恐怖分子为“种族歧视”和“强迫劳动”， 加上BBC等西方媒体进入该地区指鹿为马的故意歪曲的报道，让中国政府及当地百姓不得不提防进入这个地区的外国人的动机，这些才是事实的全部。 希望你经历过所有这一切能够理解并享受在新疆的旅程！ 用你的眼睛和真实感受去体会这里的一切，而不是带着西方媒体给你们洗脑带来的偏见！！！！
这两个老外应该把你的这个贴读懂😅😅😅
你这个评价很好
👍你說出我想說的！多謝！
你想的太好了，没用！偏见会一直存在
当时警察跟乘务员这么做是因为你说的这些原因吗？乘务员为什么这么做和这么做的根本原因你心里没点逼数吗？😂😂😂😂
In sleeping couch no camera is allowed is quite reasonable. I bet you didn’t see famous China security camera there. That is reason the policeman asked you turn off camera, just like don’t shoot video in somebody’s bedroom. You are pretty lucky they help you find two seats, normally for ordinary locals, security guy in train won’t help them. Actually you were treated special.
Standing ticket 34 hours can not imagine, as long as you stand for more than 6 hours will be irritable. I might even jump out of the car.
China can stop running slow passenger trains because it already has a high-speed rail network and give all the line resources to freight trains (in China, slow passenger trains are a money-losing business while freight trains are profitable), but considering that there are still some people who are not so wealthy, the government still retained the slow passenger trains. Therefore, the function of these trains is not vacation tourism, but its basic function is transportation.
And the most important is that tickets are very cheap
Indeed, those people have really low income, they do not want to spend $ on road expenses.
@@BestluckYan昨天我用了60美元，49小时火车。也是这种🚞。50小时的车票60美元，非常便宜了，
China retains the slow trains of the last century for two reasons: one is to take care of those with financial difficulties, and the other is for special transportation, such as the rapid transportation of large quantities of heavy weapons and equipment during wartime
@@BestluckYan i think the main reason is that it is a long trip train and for the high-speed train, it needs to be stopped and checked in every day to guarantee its safety, maybe in the future there will be more reliable high-speed for long-trip
in fact you guys must appreciate the police officer who find you seats since you bought standing tickets which means you can't sit in the sleeper. they might thougt you bought standing tickets mistakenly. even local chinese rarely buy such a standing ticket that takes more than 30 hours. so they might seem a little bit rude, but they were trying to help foreingers like you guys to follow the rules and survive your 32hours trip.
👍That's right!
不是 police officer😂
视频里这一车买长途站票的中国人你没有看到吗？😂😂😂😂😂
@@wenlichen1201乘警也是警察哦。
@@薛北雪 那你非常厉害 可以看到每个人都在哪里下，知道人家是长途。还是你透视人家车票了呀
I remember that it took more than a week for Beijing to go to Urumqi more than 30 years ago because the speed was very slow. Almost no one in China goes to Xinjiang in this way now. Almost all the passengers who buy station tickets on this train are short-distance passengers who get on and off at the half-way station, while you take such a horrible way to get to Urumqi. Admire your courage!
他们不懂站票意味着没有座位 ？三十多个小时几乎不会有人买站票、除非是短途
You bought a standing ticket, which means that you don't have a fixed seat on the train, and the conductor kindly arranged a seat for you. The seats changed for the second time are exclusive seats for train staff, and these two seats are not sold to the public. I hope you can feel their good intentions instead of being disturbed.
You can take a standing ticket for a short distance, but not for a long journey, say for more than 2 to 3 hours, definitely not for 30+ hours. This train is not only slow but also stops at almost every station. The people on this kind of green train are mainly local farmers and migrant workers. China may need some double-decker trains to increase its capacity. The situation reminds me of a similar experience riding a super crowded, sweltering, World War II-style, overnight sleeper train from Marseille to Milan in a hot summer some 20 years ago.
Nowadays, the green trains seem to be the lowest way to travel since travelling by the sometimes dangerous sleeper busses has been phased out.
Looking forward to your next video from Xinjiang!
Seems this guy might trying to give a miserable background when mentioning Xinjiang, see what he is going to do next.
@@babc97 Taking a green train is still a novelty for foreigners, these two TH-camrs might just be exploring new ways to attract viewers.
视频里那些站票的中国人傻吗？
@@薛北雪 这些站票的可能只是坐几站而已，而且有的时候火车票紧张，你又不得不坐的时候，站票是唯一的选择，我就做过16个小时，从漠河到哈尔滨的无座票。这个经历也是终身难忘，上半夜和其他人聊天唠嗑还挺快乐的，下半夜睡觉是个大问题。最后几个小时是最难熬的
@@babc97 不要胡说八道，他不是bbc
The reason for not taking photos is that there will be many people resting and sleeping in the sleeper compartment, which means there will be privacy issues. So no one is allowed to take photos in that compartment
Let me help you sort out the misunderstandings caused by your language barrier and lack of understanding of Chinese laws.
1. Your ticket is a standing ticket, and there are no seats. You can use the empty seats, but you need to move away when others arrive.
2. If you don't buy a sleeper ticket, it is forbidden to enter the sleeper. As for shooting videos in the sleeper, it is very annoying. This has nothing to do with the law. Even normal people don't want to be filmed in the place where they sleep.
3. Train attendants rarely receive foreign tourists, and the methods for foreign tourists are cumbersome. In addition, you don't know Chinese, so communication is more troublesome.
4. The first reason why the police asked you to turn off the camera is because this is a sleeper. Shooting is very impolite and illegal. The second reason is that no one likes to shoot in the face. Everyone has the right to refuse.
5. I don't know much about the laws against foreigners, but for Chinese people, we can shoot Chinese police during law enforcement, and we have the right to supervise.
6. The conductor found out that you are foreigners and bought a 36-hour standing ticket. As a conductor, he knows how painful this journey is, so he took you to find an empty seat (temporarily empty, the owner may get on at the next stop), but then he found that the seat is in the middle of the train. If other passengers get on, it will be difficult for you to give up your seat, so he violated the rules and took you to another seat. I don’t know why this seat was empty the whole time, but his behavior of giving you this seat for free is definitely against the rules. After all, whether Chinese or foreigners are equal, you enjoy better treatment than Chinese people without any physical problems. It can be understood that the conductor is kind, or it can be understood that he is operating in violation of the rules, but the result is good. You use standing tickets, but get a seat for 36 hours.
7. Regarding the issue of noise, I have explained before that this is a direct train for remote areas, serving older rural people. Most of them have not received much education. They are used to such a noisy way of communication, and no one thinks there is a problem. We can all understand it, so you can see that there are not many young people and children taking this train. Most young people and city people will take high-speed trains and planes, or use sleeper berths.
8. Regarding the issue of buying food and water. Normally, this kind of train will sell food and water, but you can also see that there are many people in the carriage. It is difficult to walk, let alone push a small cart full of food, so it is impossible to sell, but there is a restaurant in front of the train. You can go to the restaurant to buy food and water by yourself.
From this train, you don’t see any children or young people, because this is a train that goes directly to remote areas and is prepared for poor rural elderly people. This train is cheap and does not have too many rules. It gives poor rural elderly people a chance to travel all over China and allows smokers to have a place to smoke (the high-speed rail is very fast, so smoking is prohibited anywhere). There are not many such trains in China. Basically, few young people and urban residents take them. Young people and urban residents mainly rely on bullet trains and airplanes to travel, or drive themselves. If you want to find very poor travel methods and people, then I will tell you that there are many. There are many poor people in China, many uneducated people, and many bad people, but so what? This country has a population of 1.4 billion. Decades of development have allowed the vast majority of Chinese people to live a wealthy life, receive a good education, and have such a good railway and road network. As a country from zero to one, this is already a great result. There are too many different cities, nationalities, people, and transportation methods in China. We can't use one clip to represent all of them. We should get in touch with them more and feel the different China.
Finally, let me express my love for you.
I like the elegance and humor of boys and the cuteness and smile of girls.
I follow your youtube, facebook, instgram and China's tiktok. I watch every video of yours in China, even the comments under the video.
I hope you can enjoy your trip in China, look forward to seeing more of your videos, and wish you a fruitful job.
I appreciate your kind words at the end but it seems you took a lot of negativity from this video which i simply didn't portray. I never complained about the noise, i mentioned it and how crazy it was but in a thrilling way. I joked and laughed they way they shout at each other, but in a way of endearment. You saw me playing and joking with the people around me, being respectful with elder Uyghur gentlemen etc. I even made a specific recording so that I could tell everyone that the police man had looked after us dearly, even retrieving water from the staff room for us. When we say that the train ran out of water, I don't mean they couldn't sell water, I mean literally nothing would come out of the taps or the hot-water machines. Completely empty on water and it was 28 degrees celcius in the cabin with 10 hours to go. I even showed us eating some Noodles which we were able to get from the dining car before the water drained up.
Don't think negatively about this video, life isn't perfect and you will never find me making 'perfect videos' i make real videos about the reality of travelling in all different ways, including challenging adventures like this.
@@JackAynsleyTravel Thanks for your reply, this is my first time to talk to a video blogger. Actually I need to apologize, a lot of my words here are not directed at you, but more to respond to the attacks on Facebook that are not clear, but I mixed up the way of replying, I need to apologize for this. In short, I like your videos, your personalities, the way you treat people, and your active interaction with all kinds of local people. I will continue to follow, and hope you can gain a lot!
@@JackAynsleyTravel I have watched many of your videos, which are great, but I still feel that there is a certain distance between you and ordinary Chinese people. Although there is communication, there is no in-depth contact. If there is a chance in the future, I hope you can get in touch with the lives of local people, visit their families, and experience the complete lives of ordinary people and the way relatives interact with each other. Perhaps this will make your videos more in-depth and more content will appear. Looking forward to it!
Thanks, I make videos all over the world though not just China. Also you should check our Beijing hutong video. You will never find a video of a foreigner going into the Hutong and drinking with locals - but we did. We're the only ones who have done this train. There are many videos on TH-cam of foreigners in China, but we're doing something different regularly.
@@JackAynsleyTravel Yes, I saw it. I got to know you through this video. Many Chinese people got to know you through this video and felt your elegance and kindness.
还有一个事实是这列火车上的百姓应该都是去新疆打工的人，在新疆从事的工作虽然艰苦，但是工资甚至超过一些大城市的白领，这些百姓是最能吃苦的人，中国传统也有节省和储蓄的习惯，他们为了家庭为了下一代，到中国西部打工，赚取更多的工钱， 而这些行为被你们英国的BBC解读为“强迫劳动”，甚至发动制裁，企图断掉这些百姓的生计！ 我的一些在农村的远房亲戚也通过去西藏或新疆打工，赚到的钱在自己家乡造了新房和买了车，他们是用自己的勤劳和辛苦来换取未来的幸福生活，而不是你们媒体所谓的“强迫劳动”！
Correct - good comments.
Well said. The west media is very good at propaganda instead of telling the truth!
Those labor people are exactly the ones who paved the way for where China is today. They deserve due respect.
希望我们的国家更加强在，发展的更好，有一天，让每一个老百姓都不需要再买站票，高铁有一天也能通到新疆。
I hope that our country will be stronger and develop better, so that one day, every ordinary people will not need to buy a standing ticket, and high-speed rail will one day be able to reach Xinjiang.
First of all, you should thank the train crew for finding you an empty seat. Secondly, take a long-distance local train must not buy a standing ticket, you buy standing tickets around are short-distance passengers. Finally, there are not many trains from Chongqing to Urumqi, and only local trains, you can take the high-speed train to Xi 'an, and then take the bullet train to Urumqi.
Imagine if the staffs and the "policeman" didn't help them with those seats ………
I’m not understand why this TH-camr do this? Nobody in China would by a no-seat ticket for long distance train ride😂。
@@phil6445yes,The standing ticket just take one hour,so the staff trying to help them when he knew he buy a 34 hours standing tickets become shock😮
@@龍-r2mIf the police not help them, hard to imagine what happened,mostly people just buy standing tickets for short distance,34 hours make police and train stuff confused and shocked😢
@@phil6445 I think this aꚃꚃholε vlogger is doing this so he can show to the West "proof & truth" of the nonsense western media is reporting about China and in return hope to attract those China-haters to his channel.
普通火车去新疆，就是卧铺也是很辛苦的，你们还是站票，我非常佩服你的勇气，我三十年前做火车不到20小时，到家以后整个人像病了一样。冒险精神可嘉，也要注意身体健康。现在需要多长时间不知道，以前这样去新疆要一个星期，除了俄罗斯人，恐怕没有其他国家的人体验过这种漫长艰难的旅行。
我要是坐票坐个几十个小时，那人都废了，直接躺家里两天不想动
啊 你漏了印度人
以前觉得国内这种绿皮车很折腾，记得当时从昆明回长沙坐了36个小时，全程人挤人，怕人家抢我的座位，36个小时饭没吃一口，厕所不上一次😂 直到后来看到外国人坐南亚火车经历，破烂不说，空调是坏的，火车还晚点20个小时，才知道中国也就人挤点，其余都不是问题😀
别看列车员一脸严肃，但还好心为这两个无座票的人找座位，太善良了。 The staff in the train looks like stressful, but he is so kind, try to find seats and bring you there, although you guys got standing tickets
我回国旅游还会做这种卧铺车，不赶时间，晚上睡一觉到了目的地。就是抽烟的真的很讨厌。
而且高铁票真的是贵，北京到南昌近一千块，带一家老小出行觉得不划算，我宁愿把钱花在好酒店和吃的上面
有空调不错了，我坐清迈到曼谷的火车，风扇，
你那時的绿皮车也沒空调吧
If any one wanna experience long-distance journey on a slow train, don't try standing tickets if you are not a vlogger trying to make some unique content.
Taking a bunk in the sleeping compartment will be a much better option.
In this video, you can see the conductor let them in the sleeping compartment probably because he's tired of communication with a language barrier. But in fact anyone with a standing ticket is not allowed to be there.
Actually no one will do this . They booked the ticket too late and no time to wait for another train . This is not common .
Because of not common occasion and a bit wired , the police kept checking them .
Probably thought a foreigner buying a standing room only ticket to Xinjiang was going to make a f ache news video about the whole trip
You can come in and out during the day but not at night
@@emilyfry2260they are not policemen， they are trainmen.
其实你们应该感谢那位看起来很凶的铁路乘务员，他带你们穿越了好几节拥挤的车厢，把乘务员席留给了你们，让你们不必遭受三十多个小时无座的苦恼。这不是地狱列车，反而是充满温情的、鲜活灵动的群众列车，我们底层人民为了节约钱也会继续乘坐它，因为它至少给了我们一种便宜的选择
Unfortunately westerners can never understand the pain of south asians..
The person in the latest video about camouflage is not a military personnel, he is probably just a migrant worker from the countryside to the city, because camouflage clothes are more resistant to dirt. Military personnel are generally invisible and do not participate in social activities, and unless there are large natural disasters, they will come out to help society and the people under the coordination of the government and the army. Including the uniformed personnel in the previous video are not police officers, they are just ordinary train workers. In fact, it is easy to tell all the policemen apart. They will have the English sign "police" on their uniforms. There are also more security guards who wear similar police uniforms on the street. In any case, wherever you see the police and military personnel do not need to be afraid, but can seek their help (except criminals). China is very harmonious (of course, every country and society has some "populists" who are very few, and most of them are hiding on the Internet)! So enjoy the trip!
The reason why filming is not allowed at the first is because some carriages are sleepers, taking photos in sleepers is an invason of privicy.
Dude, I cannot stop laughing watching your video. You said it right at the start that you got the cheapest train but went into the carriage with bunker beds. After that you looked so lost and as if you got miss treated and escorted all the way to your standing carriage. You were filming in bunker beds and saying oh I do not understand why I need to turn my camera off, this really made me laugh ;) Why don't you make another video about getting an economy flight ticket and go sit in first class seat on your plane, and film everything and show us what happens ;)
You thought that being a foreigner, you had privilege in China
on point bro!
You two, the staff on that train were actually very nice to you. I bet if I were in the UK on a similar train, I would be escorted off by security.
Bro, your experience is the same as mine when I went to college 30 years ago. But China still warmly welcomes you!
Get free seats from the help of the train crew, that shows how Chinese ppl treat friends from far away
But I hate the staff driving out of two uncles in order to provide empty seats for them, which was a sort of spineless behavior.
@@lan-520 coz them are getting off at next station
@@efei33 The staff asked these uncles whether they bought the standing -ticket and kicked them out before asking them whether they were going to go off at the next station, which means the staff never knew the information. After that, the staff still wanted to translate these two uncles to other seats, which demonstrates the staff only took care of how to give foreigners seats regardless of the local's feelings. To take a step back, why a standing-ticket person should give his or her seat to another standing-ticket person before he or she arrives?
@@lan-520 the staff has a protable device to check id cards and seats information. they know which seat will be available for long time. and chinese ppl willing to give up their seats upon staff's arrangement
@@lan-520我也同意你的说法，不过他们来自外国什么都不懂，所以他们才进入了卧铺车厢，所以工作人员确实是照顾了他们，但是要其他人让座确实不妥，可能也只是想给没经历的人留下好印象吧，毕竟来西部的外国人不多，也许是看他们拍视频怕他们的信息给别人造成误解。
Before boarding the train, they declared that they had bought no-seat tickets, just as they had bought economy class tickets, and of course they were not allowed to go to first class, even if they were standing in first class. In fact, they can also choose to walk to Urumqi, it is another experience, it is their own choice. Enjoy the journey.
In fact, the high-speed rail tickets are sold out, but it is still not recommended for foreigners to go out during the holidays in China. There is so much time in China that there is no need to squeeze in the few holidays in China. Especially more than 30 hours
Modernization may not be good for the poor in rural and have management problem. They may not know press botton and pull automatic toilet door by force. Put into their shoes, rural may be thankful have the freedom to choose a cheap and familiar mode to achieve destination.
你说的都对，看评论没有一个为几亿每天这样生活的中国人想想！
Getting on a green （low speed) train without a seat and travelled all the way to Xinjiang ? You are looking for trouble.
@@薛北雪 就事论事，看视频说视频
Man, you are not have ticket, but still given seat for sit for free, they are too nice.
Actually, the standing ticket has the same price with the normal 2nd class coach ticket... So i would say he should be able to sit if nobody else is sitting.
@@kind03cn actually people that standing only for short distant destination, others are sit on seat at that train carriage
As a Chinese person, I want to say, man, you are really amazing. This kind of long journey in a hard seat is absolutely a hellish experience. I once took a hard seat for 13 hours, and it was really unbearable. The topic you chose, '34 hours in a hard seat,' is excellent. You have experienced what it's like for 'the lowest class of people in China' on a long journey. Their endurance is incredibly strong.
Just searched the train out of curiosity, 34 hours, covers 3,000 km, ￥290 or $40 per ticket without reserved seat. Crazy!
Este valor você tá achando preço caro???
@@龙唐-r1y觉得便宜吧
@@龙唐-r1yvery cheap
@@龙唐-r1y No, it's crazy cheap.
wow, I can't imagine myself on that train for so long.
I think you should be thankful to the conductor who went out of his way to find you the seats
I rode a one-way train trip from Beijing to Urumqi for 76 hours in 1986 in a sleeper bed.
你们真的很勇敢，我年轻的时候每次往返大学和家都坐这种火车，很辛苦，但是因为学生票可以半价，如果其他的就没什么优惠了。反正体力好就熬一晚上。虽然累，但是同行的陌生人总是在一起聊天玩笑，也很开心😂
Jack/Paige… God bless you both! Thank you for showing your travel experience throughout your journey, with an open mindset, understanding, respect of other cultures, and showing your appreciation with kindness in exchange with one another. I love watching your content which does not have any controversy, biased, hate, discrimination. Your videos just clearly show ppl someone like me who would never or simply afraid to go to places by afar miles away from home. I would feel very safe traveling through China, but I was a little scared watching your journey when you traveled to Pakistan’s and India. I’m a Chinese born Canadian.. one who doesn’t travel to China as often as I would, but after watching your videos… I definitely will make a trip there. So many TH-cam vloggers out there are not very nice showing a distorted facts of China so your channel is just a breath of fresh air. Thank you sir Jack, Madam Paige! Love you both!!! The world would be a much better place having couples like you both!
OMG, 3000 km by a standing ticket is insane.
我前天从呼伦贝尔坐火车13小时到哈尔滨。等了四小时，然后哈尔滨到杭州。36小时，一共49小时我才到，也是这个车，真的挺累。我买错票了，本来想买沈阳到南方的动车，硬座直接坐过来的😢
@@nuanxing9394 为啥不飞呢，这么久的火车价格也不便宜吧
@@悸動的心 并不是每个人都喜欢坐飞机，而且也不着急。然后我都是临时买票，睡醒了，我有空了就去买票，没习惯提前买票，不喜欢着急
我爱来自印度的中国人的爱@@nuanxing9394
up主坐的这趟车票价是三百左右
you guys are lucky. the standing seats normally really is standing. Just like the folks standing around.
More than ten years ago, there were very few high-speed trains in China, and for many people, the ticket prices were too expensive. Most people of our generation have had similar experiences. It looks very real and nostalgic. Thank you very much for the genuine sharing.
30年前我还是学生的时候坐了48小时从哈尔滨到家，太难忘了。欢迎来到中国体验不同的旅行
我也有同样经历，也是在哈尔滨上学，家在关里。那时候年轻，40多个小时不算啥，怕的是要在北京中转签字，经常没有下一趟车的座位。有两次我都是从北京站到家。
30多年前有同样的经历，从哈尔滨去学校，一座难求啊。现在仅仅看到他们两人的一个小时的视频都把我累的够呛😂他们下车后发表的感想实在是把我逗笑了😂
Basically, we always fly from Chongqing to Urumqi. Taking a train, especially with only standing tickets, is just too crazy. The initial 'policeman' wasn’t actually a policeman; he was a train attendant. It was thanks to his help that you were able to have seats the whole way.
Standing tickets are for shorter distance 1 maybe 2 stations. That's why the rail staffs were concerned.
YOU ARE RICH
First of all, it's one truly adventure and hard journey, not only for two non-citizen visitors, but also for native. Besides it's cost much less than other way. From ChongQing to Ürümqi, it will cost 200$(US dollar) at least by plane, only 70$ by Green-skin train(about 50km/h! there's no bullet train for this line yet).
And the man on train who lead Jacks to the seat, he's the staff of train, not police.It's his job to make train works smooth.If there's vacancy on sleeper compartments, he can ticket Jack from standing upto sleeper. As we can see from the video, it's a lot more passengers than vacancy, then he doing much warm heart than his duty, take the Jacks to some seats.
There's several passengers using standing tickets squatting at the junction of the train carriages, it's common on the train.
乘务员是看他这个要站34个小时，时间太长了，关照了他们一下，没有人会买34小时的站票，从镜头中可以看到卧铺的空位很多，如果有长途的乘客坐绿皮车一般都会买卧铺，镜头中那些同样也是站票的人我确信他们很快就会下车，所以乘务员关照了他俩，而不是其他站票的人
As a Westerner, I believe you are one of the first or second to travel by the green train. This is not a Western tourist train; it is purely a means of transportation. It is very cheap but equivalent to its price.
The only reason people choose it is because it is cheap. The British are the least tolerant of speaking loudly or eating food in public, but for them, this is just a part of life.
Personally, the journey was excruciating and painful. But, as I said clearly in the video, we were surrounded by great people. Friendly people who we shared jokes with and were comrades through the uncomfortable 34 hours. Even the police guy, again which i report in the video, was a very nice man and looked after us throughout the journey. Even personally bringing us water from the staff's office when the train ran out of water.
The chinese people are some of my absolute favourite, we were in this together and we respected eachother. I think we all hated the conditions, but had an adventure together. That's what you will find on my channel.
@@JackAynsleyTraveljack,you are really a gentleman
@@JackAynsleyTravelenjoy your travel in Xinjiag!
be aware: due to the rumors made by BBC, CNN, etc, you may get many checks by police😜😜😜
Much cleaner than the British underground
Oh dear this type of train is for hillbillies...
你从卧铺车厢到座位车厢，路上有个很拥挤的吧台，就是补卧铺的柜台，这种长距离旅行，即使没买到票也可以通过补票的方式晚一点得到一个床
You go from the sleeper compartment to the seat compartment, there is a very crowded bar on the road, which is the counter for making up the sleeper. This kind of long-distance travel, even if you don't buy a ticket, you can get a bed later by making up the ticket
确实是被优待了，你最好的做法应该是像和那两个北京大爷一样，和周围的旅伴一起喝几杯
In case anyone encounters the same situation as Jack, give me some advice within my knowledge. But if you really want to try something similar to Jack's experience this time, you can skip it.
1. There are still many green trains in China, not all of which are high-speed trains. The biggest advantage of a green train is its affordability, especially for those like Jack who have no seat tickets. However, many regulations on green trains are relatively relaxed compared to high-speed trains, for example, smoking is not prohibited on green trains.
2. If you want to go to a place where there is only a green train and there are no seats left, you can buy a no seat ticket first, and then after getting on the train, ask the conductor if they can get a replacement seat or sleeper ticket. Because there are people getting off the train in the middle, it is very likely to get a seat or sleeper ticket.
3. If you are unable to get a replacement seat or sleeper ticket, you can only randomly find a place to sit like Jack. It is not recommended to find a seat in the sleeper carriage because the ticket inspection in the sleeper is very rigorous. If you really can't bear it, you can go to the dining car for a meal, so you can sit for at least one or two hours.
4. I have heard that some high-speed trains do not have tickets, but I don't know if they still have them now. However, generally speaking, high-speed trains are built for each person.
According to my knowledge, 'smoking is not prohibited on green trains' is not true. Smoking is not permitted in any public place, though I have to admit that there may be a tiny monority of rule-breakers ignore the regulation.
Smoking is not allowed in the train's carriages, but is allowed at the junction of the two carriages.
@@Joseph_YI 绿皮火车的车厢连接处是可以吸烟的
不得不说还是要为你们的勇气点赞，那么久的火车我是不敢坐的，即使是高铁超过四个小时就让人很疲惫了，并且你们买的还是绿皮火车的站票，真的勇气可嘉。
hey, Jack & Paige. Since the algorithm recommended your video of drinking with two Beijing locals（北京大爷） in a Beijing hutong, I’ve become a fan of your channel. That video was especially authentic and captivating! I really like your personalities and filming style, which remind me of people from northeastern China. Your catchphrase, "Nihao, Laotie" (你好，老铁), is actually from northeastern China, and not all Chinese people understand it. So, when I see you using it to greet people from other regions of China in your videos, they might understand it but aren’t familiar with it as a greeting, which makes them a bit unsure how to respond, especially the older generation. However, thanks to 抖音 (Chinese TikTok), "laotie" （老铁）has become a popular internet slang term nationwide.
留言的第二部分，我想用母语中文来表达。我一直很期待你们这一期坐30多小时“绿皮火车"经历，因为在我小时候，二三十年前，如果想坐火车出行，只有这样的“绿皮火车”（慢速火车），无论旅行、出差、还是探亲，都只能这样。你这一期视频，让我很怀念那个年代，不要误会，我并不怀念火车的味道和拥挤，LOL。我想说的是看视频的人，没法体会你的疲惫，身上都是汗无法洗澡，有人在你耳旁喊叫，无法深度入睡，喝不上你想要的热咖啡和冰水，我都懂，我都经历过，谢谢你把我带回那个年代，但你和Paige的这个经历是珍贵的，你更了解了中国人和中国的变化。高铁并不在一些小镇停靠，以及票价昂贵（至少对于农民工是昂贵的），所以你看到还是有很多人因为各种原因选择乘坐“绿皮车”，中国人和中国人的生活差距还是很大的。很显然，时至今日，我自己是不会选坐这样的“绿皮车”了，我相信你俩也绝对不会再选了，这是一生一次的体验，并且不能多于一次，不是吗？哈哈哈哈
首先Jack你很聪明和明智，当别的TH-camr都在体验中国高铁的时候，你反向思考，选择了记录这里。然后，我要说你们两个很勇敢，你们不是为了拍片子，只是坐几个小时的绿皮车，敢挑战这么长时间的“绿皮车”，我很钦佩，敬礼~~~~~~~~~ 但我看到其他的朋友留言说的很忠诚，你确实应该谢谢乘务员，他们给了你外国人的礼遇，帮你找到了座位。我们那时候有座位就是幸运和幸福的了，各种味道和嘈杂都能忍耐的。你要知道，我小时候会爬到你和Paige的座位下，睡在那个狭小的空间，你就能知道那味道和环节有多糟。我知道这一切不完美，快速发展也有很多问题，但我还是感谢这一切的变化，发生在一代人的身上，这是正面的。这可以让我们的孩子不用在经历这些，至少是可以有选择。
最后，我要说如今的"绿皮车"也是充满故事的，比起你对着镜头和我说，如果你能多学一些普通话，就更棒了！你可以从身边那些有着烟味、也许不懂的社交距离和礼仪，但非常淳朴的老百姓口中听到很多精彩的故事，也许你们的30多个小时不会难么难熬，屏幕前的我们，就更有眼福了。
And finally, my favorite part was when you both, after all the hardships, got off the train, stretched your legs, exercised, and breathed in the fresh air. That dance was so romantic and charming! I love you guys from Newcastle~~
For the second part of my comment, I’d like to express myself in my native language, Chinese. I’ve been really looking forward to your episode about the 30-hour journey on the "green train." Back in my childhood, like twenty or thirty years ago, if you wanted to travel by train, the only option was these "green trains" (slow trains). Whether it was for travel, business trips, or visiting family, that was it. Your video really brought back memories of that time. Don’t get me wrong-I don’t miss the smell and the crowd, LOL. What I mean is that viewers can’t really get how exhausted you must have been, sweating with no way to shower, people shouting next to you, no deep sleep, and not being able to get the hot coffee or cold water you wanted. I get it; I’ve been there. Thanks for taking me back to those days. But your experience with Paige is priceless-you’ve got a deeper understanding of Chinese people and the changes in China. High-speed trains don’t stop at some small towns, and the tickets are pricey (at least for migrant workers), so you still see a lot of people taking the "green trains" for various reasons. There's a big gap between the lives of different Chinese people. Clearly, I wouldn’t choose to take such a "green train" today, and I bet neither would you guys. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and it doesn’t need to happen more than once, right? Hahaha.
First off, Jack, you’re really smart and insightful. When other TH-camrs are experiencing China’s high-speed trains, you thought differently and chose to document this. I also have to say that you both are really brave. You didn’t just ride the green train for a few hours to make a video; you dared to challenge such a long journey on the "green train," which I really admire. Salute~~~~~~~~~ But I saw some other comments from friends saying you should thank the train staff, as they gave you special treatment and helped you find seats. Back in our day, having a seat was lucky and happy, and we could endure all kinds of smells and noise. When I was a kid, I would crawl under the seats like where you and Paige sat, and sleep in that cramped space, so you can imagine how bad it smelled and how tough the conditions were. I know it’s not perfect, and rapid development brings many issues, but I’m still grateful for all these changes happening within a generation-they are positive. At least our kids have choices and don’t have to go through this.
Lastly, I want to say that today’s "green trains" are still full of stories. Compared to talking to the camera, if you could learn a bit more Mandarin, you might hear many wonderful stories from the simple folks around you, those who smell like smoke and don’t understand social distance and etiquette but are very genuine. Your 30-plus hours might not have been so hard, and we viewers would be even more entertained.
Great insights, I enjoyed reading your comment. I also subscribed after watching their heart warming interaction with the two gentlemen in the hutongs!
Paige is amazing to be willing to go thru this and still smiley all the time.
I rode this train 20 years ago, I still remember the 24 hour journey with no seats,fresh in memory.I wish you a happy trip, Xinjiang is a beautiful place(from translation).🥰🥰
太猛了，我愿称你为旅游博主最强，我目前没有坐过这么久的火车。epic
只要有站票的就不建议坐，连过道都站满人，乘务员对你们已经很不错了，还安排两个位置给你
Hi，Jack. In fact, there is a trick to riding this green train. Usually, we go to the No. 7 Train carriage (next to the Dining car carriage).In the first instance we get on the train and ask the train attendant , if it is possible to upgrade to a sleeper ticket. I also follow you in bilibili, and in your first video(16:28), there are people like that upgrading their sleeper tickets. Because there will be some people for some personal reasons do not come up or cancel the order, and then there will be empty sleeper and seat. This kind of train is usually not the use of smart phone tickets middle-aged and elderly, most young people are willing to pay more money for this, is really sad, for your spirit I admire.
I bet people are going to clip this video and make false narratives.
Serpenza comes to mind or China Uncensored
Isn't this the real China?😂😂😂😂
Is this the real India??😂😂😂😂
Is this the real India??😂😂😂😂
@@薛北雪 False narratives, can't you see that? Like "this is the only traveling option in China", for example.
An absolutely incredible video. Incredible journey! Thank you for sharing this with your TH-cam audience. I subscribed your channel instantly after viewing this video. Great job lad!
I think they're so lucky got prioritized by the train officer so they got seat. Those officers got confused find out two foreigners stranded inside a low class train, they thought something must be gone wrong.
我也这么认为，乘务员可能以为这俩老外错误的定了站座票
不，列车员注意到他们的原因首先主要是他们坐在卧铺车厢，这是不被允许的，其次，他们两个对着别人的床录像，这侵犯了别人的隐私。最后，外国人在绿皮车上一直录像很可疑，列车员可能怀疑是BBC之类的媒体想做点文章。
I admire your courage very much. I had a similar experience. I took the green train for about 40 hours in 2002 and my butt was all worn out.
My husband and I have been on a hard-seat train for up to 17 hours. He vowed never to take it again. Haha, you two are really warriors, iron buttocks.
Wowzers now that was a tough journey and a salute you both for doing it !! It must have been such a struggle but to see the ones that had to stand or lie in floors was crazy . Thanks for sharing the reality of life 🙌
local residents will choose green trains when traveling, because they are only one or a few stops away, and standing tickets are not painful for them.
But never choose a standing ticket for more than four hours, you will be very miserable unless you have no choice.
Or very courageous to challenge.
只能说这俩人缺心眼，亦或想体验生活
We knew it！ Even Chinese people are not easy to stay positive after 36 hours on an old train by sitting those hard seats. Well, you should thank to those people who help you find these seats, anyhow. Anyhow, respect.
你是一个诚实的好人，如果世界上每个人都像你一样客观、真诚的对待每一位遇到的人和国家，这个世界将是和平美好的。中国是发展中国家，四十年的发展取得了很大进步，但同时也存在这很多的问题，特别是西部及偏远地区的发展滞后，与西方国家存在着很大差距。感谢你的客观真诚的观点和分享。
1986 to 1990, I took such train from Chengdu to Shanghai, 48 hours, then 8 hours transit, then another 24 hours to Fuzhou to study. I slept under the seat or on luggage holding area, those were the best place to slept.
20年前大學，坐了30多個小時，從成都到敦煌，只要能睡的姿勢我都能睡着，太難受了，你們真是毅力驚人！
我报纸铺在车门旁边圈着睡，此生只坐过一次，再也没坐过。
99%的中国人都没坐过超过20小时的绿皮火车，更别提34小时无座了😂
I haven’t been on a green train in over twenty years. When I was in college 20 years ago, I also bought standing tickets. From Beijing to Chengdu, I stood all day and all night! ! Hahahaha, but it’s funny.
Every train in China has police deployed to maintain law and order. This is normal. They will keep everyone safe.
The older generation of Chinese people are very frugal, so it is necessary to keep these cheap green trains. Just like my mother, she has a lot of money, but she is reluctant to buy even a bottle of drink when she goes to play.
你英文真牛
You are very courageous. When I was in school, I only did a 12-hour green car ride. I bought a sleeper berth at that time, and it felt like the time was very long. Now the high-speed rail conditions are much better, but it is not as comfortable as a sleeper berth, haha.
There is good reason why these low class green trains are still in use, these trains play important role to link those small towns, villages that remotely from major city, provide affordable transport to people. High speed train normally stops at major city/town.
At 11:31 in the video, due to your tickets are standing tickets in the ordinary carriage, you are not allowed to occupy the seats in the sleeper carriage. The police asked you to leave the sleeper carriage and return to the ordinary carriage. This is the Chinese riding rules, and you should abide by it.
This is a big challenge even for Chinese people back in 30 years ago. Standing for nearly two days on the train is no joke. Great experience though!
Just try to make clear that the people with uniform are not police. They are just railway staff. It is just their uniforms looks like police uniform.
Mad respect guys! You have broke my record, the longest I have taken on that train was 28 hours with a hard sit ticket when I was studying in the uni (because student discount for 50% off). It was painful, I can't image to take that again
China's railway system is an independent kingdom with its own police and courts. The military police will never intervene in the railway system unless it is wartime. In China, there are no military police; camouflage uniforms belong to field troops, but generally, they are a type of clothing that ordinary people love to wear. Anyway, I admire your courage to take China's long-distance green train. Thirty years ago, I took it once for a five-hour journey, and I swore I would never try to travel long distances by train again. In fact, I have kept that promise.
你说的情况已经过时了，那是过去的情况
ur lucky bro u girl aint complaining much shes a sweet heart
When I was in college, I also had a fantasy of taking a twenty-hour train ride to Urumqi, to see the scenery along the way and feel the different atmosphere of life, but I never thought of a standing ticket, and then I never did so again!😂
this train maybe older than you, Can't believe you guys can make it , and all time positive, even though I take that train I will cry.
Hope everyone can know that there are 3000 kilometers from Chongqing to Urumqi. The ticket without seat is ¥278.5, which is approximately $38 or 30 pounds, that is, about 0.1 yuan or 0.014 dollars or 0.011 pounds per kilometer.
甚至很多人没有意识到，其实这火车并不慢，很多国家的最快的火车还没有这个绿皮车跑的快。
Never have I dared to travel with the lowest class train of China, amazing you guys
This video also proved that why China is still a developing country,per GDP is only 10000 dollars,wealth gap is still huge in China,people in eastern China live better life than those in the western China.Living standards in city is usually better than rural area. Northwest is one of the least developed areas in China,especially US’s wrongful sanction on Xinjiang,it will only leading people’s life in Xinjiang poorer and bring chaos and destabilization to China. Hope Xinjiang can develop better under US sanctions.Stay strong China,stay strong Xinjiang.
你說什麼屁話，新疆維吾爾人民都被制裁的沒工作，你還好意思說什麼叫在美國制裁，制裁他個頭了。美國是誰呀？你以為是你的天哪，你的王啊
@@侯嘉琪-t8s 是你說什麼屁話。美国以强迫劳动为名制裁与新疆有联系的企业是众所周知的，你自己不知道而已，还在这里大放厥词。
It is already an UPPER MIDDLE INCOME nation where it has reached around USD 12-13000.
Xinjiang’s foreign trade is NOT dependent on the US as it traditionally trades mostly with Russia and Central Asia, and there are FTAs China have forged with other countries and regions.
And the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) since 2013.
@@侯嘉琪-t8sThere are other news items from Chinese media outlets like Xinhua and CGTN/CCTV featuring Uyghur workers in factories producing textiles, automobiles, machineries and equipment of various kinds, oil and gas products, food products and those in the retail, transportation, tourism and logistics sectors.
@@侯嘉琪-t8s
note: in China railway, 无座(no seat) means no reserved seat, u can sit on any empty seat.
Well, China is still a developing country with 1.4 billion people. if you go out of your way to find some hardships you will not be disappointed. But one thing is for sure, your safety is guaranteed.
I am a person from rural China. The author experienced 36 hours on a train in China. It was also an unforgettable experience for me. When I was a child, I took such trains from one city to another until high-speed trains became available. This is my memory too.
I just left comment on your last video asking for update, and here it is！！！😂😂😂 but why do you "torture" yourself.
Crazy, I took a train for 8 hours and I felt like screaming, sitting for 8 hours made my body ache, I give you a thumbs up for being able to survive on the train for 34 hours 😂😂😂
Wonder what you were expecting when you booked a standing ticket? They are so accommodating to find you seats.
You are lucky to be helped to get a seat. The chances like this will be very slim in Europe, regardless of what color is your skin.
OMG! you guys really got the nerves taking the green train in China with a no-seat ticket. I worked in China from 1990 to 2016, I have never been on a green train. But you guys are lucky, the train stuff actually treat you very nice, give you special treatment in gettinvg you seats, otherwise 32 hours standing in a green train might make you nuts 🤣
The Train Guard is getting you a proper seat! ^^°^^ Lovely! 💘💝💖💯👍👍👍
It’s not the real side. It’s the lowest side. Every country has its own lowest side, you can’t say it’s a real or normal side
You're amazing, as a Chinese, I haven't traveled on a train for that long in almost a decade, and that's with no seat tickets! That was my experience when I was a student.
But most of the people here won't follow the whole process you've been through, they get up and down for a few stops, and for people who really needs to transfer from place to place, It's the only way to solve it by selling no-seat tickets. You actually can pay for a bed on the half way once anybody gets off the train and the beds become available, just ask the conductor. Also, another way is going to the dining car, buy yourself a meal, You can have the seat forever.
These men in uniform are train attendants。They have a small lounge at the head or back of each carriage。There are usually one or two police officers on the whole train for emergencies, but they are not authorized to arrange you a seat 。
Still selling the tickets without seats is because to take care of the people cannot afford the price of the berth or high speed train, otherwise all the “green trains”would be replaced by the high speed trains. You can see a lot of people in the carriage seems like farmers or villagers from remote areas, this low price ticket helps them a lot.
There so many people in chian, many of them are not long traveling men, so they haven't seats
Your video has brought back memories of experience of travelling on the similar kind of train from Shanghai to Guangzhou in 1988 and after one night in Guangzhou, rushing back home to Hong Kong. It was the first of my visits to China. My first visit was an interflow trip to 2 universities in Nanjing and Shanghai during the summer holiday in 1988 when I was studying at the University of HK. The experience was unforgettable as every inch of floor was taken up by passengers sitting or lying. There was even a man sleeping underneath my seat. it was a bit chaotic but luckily, no crimes happened. Witnessing the situation, I prayed for my motherland. Now, I take pride in the unprecedented developments in China. I still could remember a Japanese friend who told me that China deserved to be invaded by the Japanese armies in history because of survival of the fittest which was the law of Nature. I hope that China will remain strong and has the power to protect itself from invasions.
I think the blogger try to blend in with the community not going well but the barrier of language makes the other thinking indeed China are not what you think it is”rude people” but I appreciate you have a guts travelling on the lowest class of the journey 👍👍👍👍👍. You just give us wide open access to China . Rich & Poor but foreigners always have special treatment if you in the right place & right time . Please use the voice translation for you easy to communicate with others soo there’s no confusion between you & your viewers. I’m really enjoying your journey 🎉🎉🎉🎉 . Please uploading more 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 .