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Monster Hunter Rise PC vs Switch Comparison: PC Shines at 4K60FPS - But What Else Does It Add?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- A year on from the Switch exclusive release of Monster Hunter Rise we have a PC port, bearing several key additions including resolution and frame-rate upgrades. The graphics menu promises much more however, in the form of higher-res texture packs and shadows - plus a solution to a slew of limits of the Switch edition Tom assesses the quality of a well-rounded, if relatively no-frills conversion to PC.
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I'm not sure if this shows me how good the switch version looks or how much more they could've done with the pc port
Think its just that good. It doesn't really need much else improvement at least from what i see. God they did so good with the style of the game. The art is so good. The few things like bit better textures and high frames is very good though. Ngl got it on my switch but forgot about it and never got past the menu. But recently got it on pc. And man the smooth fps is sooo nice. And love the game art style still!. If they ever add cross save ill 100% play it on my switch when on the go.
@@beanslol1725 or steam deck :o
@@beanslol1725 i agree that the switch version is a masterpiece (visuals wise). but the pc port is definitely nowhere near impressive and looks significantly worse than world
@Mat Sci lol
@Mat Sci someone’s angry lmao
I play on switch and I Just couldn’t justify abandoning my hunter to move to pc. The improvements are decent but not worth redoing all that time. IF they would have put in cross save it would have been a day 1 purchase. Big missed opportunity by capcom as they lost a sale and I doubt im the only one. Also it just doesnt look that much better honestly. It looks like a switch game on pc.
At first I thought the same, until I play at 60fps and wow, it may look the same as the switch but it feels much better.
I'm sure you could just use a save editor to recreate your character exactly as they are on PC. I know you could do that for Monster Hunter World.
It's my case too. I'll Stick with the Switch edition without cross save
You cant even imagine how horrible 30fps is until you try something better
@@gamesboy123able Imagine playing 30fps games and 120fps games and being fine and just enjoying what you play... (like me)
And I am not saying there is no difference, there is a lot of difference but people dramatise it a lot sometimes.
Anyhow I did double dip on PC, 120fps at 1440p does look better than on Switch, but the difference graphically is less than some would think.
The game is of course much lighter than World, I get at max 90% of the time 120fps, with World on max (volumetrics and AA off) I am at around 70~90fps most of the time (3700x + 2070S)
Surprised there's no mention that the 100% image quality setting appears to be less than native. And there's no way to scale to 4k outside of using DSR, which the desktop resolution also has to be set to otherwise it won't work.
wtf
Who- who commented first?
True
MH Rise on the Switch is amazing. I can't believe what Capcom squeezed out of that limited tech
They chose limited tech If you researched in Tindo’s philosophy they believe in using shitty hardware to make good things unfortunately since it’s 2022 that model is pretty much useless seeing how no new game can run on the console I barely 30 we Nintendo fans need to start demanding more
@@Jennifer-cg5ih You need to get better at English.
Alien Isolation vibe
@@Jennifer-cg5ih Nintendo fans are like Apple fans, don't expect too much from them.
@@Jennifer-cg5ih Kirby and the forgotten lands frame rate is horrible
If they took the time to paint the environments with a bit more foliage it would have looked much better as certain scenes look really barren. With just a few painfully obvious cross hatched foliage textures.
Hardware limitation is pretty obvious the main reason.
Just wanted to let you know that the 30fps cap during cutscenes can be circumvented through mods flawlessly. The cutscenes aren't prerendered.
Well, even pre-rendered 30fps cinematics can be converted to 60fps with a mod.
oh really? is it on nexus mods. i will download it but i am playing god of war so ive not been able to play MH properly yet
@Stef * huh that's weird because I got both ultrawide and do enjoy playing on consoles every now and then. Seems your statement is full of shit.
@Stef * What's the ultra wide 4k equivalent resolution? I primarily play on PC (with some Switch), but I can safely say I prefer 4k/60fps over 1440p/120+ fps. I haven't had an ultra wide monitor before though, so I'm not familiar with the resolutions they use.
@@metroplex29 getting an ai to add frames looks terrible, ai upscaling is great tho
No cross save was a deal breaker for me. But it dose look nice on PC 👍 if they add it I might double dip for the extra fps and image clarity for home play.
monter hunter 3 had cross savings betwen 3ds and wii u, so it wouldn't surprise me if gets featured in an update rather soon. unless nintendo is somehow involved in this issue and for wathever crap reason they don't allow it
Eh cheat-mods fix the cross save issue, Like on MHW i just cheated everything in my ps4 file to make a perfect copy.
they'll add it after the dlc is out and sold well
Modding will bring it. Buy near sunbreak then.
Guys in the comments are delusional. Nintendo doesn't care about crosssave with other machines
While it's nice to know how the top spec machines handle, I think you've looked at this back-to-front.
The main comparisons here should have been with low-mid spec PCs to show how well it can run on those systems. The 'Recommended' GPU on Steam is a 1060 3GB, with a 1030 as the 'Minimum', and it given how great the game is on Switch anyway, it would have been most useful for people with less powerful/expensive systems to know what they needed to get a decent 1080/60 fps presentation which would allow them to comfortably enjoy this great game.
EDIT: And comparisons on those low-spec machines with MHW might have been interesting as I suspect that the older game is much more demanding even on low settings.
I was thinking just this while watching too. They should be using the same "popular" hardware that Steam shows what users are using. Makes for a much fairer comparison.
A GTX 1050 Ti can handle 1080p max settings with 60+ FPS
I personally hate it when we get a PC version and they only look at really low-end hardware, I want to see what my high-end hardware can do.
That said, I think the obvious solution is to address both! Show us what a GTX 980 Ti and an RTX 3090 can do, and maybe an inbetween card to boot. I think seeing a nice spread of PC hardware playing the game gives people a really good idea of what to expect.
This game is clearly less demanding than MHW, I get 50-60 FPS at 1080p on MHW while this game runs at ~120 FPS at 1440p. However, unless they fixed it since the demo, the game can only run on DX12 compatible cards. It's really weird to think that my brother played MHW on a GTX 660 at 30 FPS on low, but can't even open this game.
@@dianavi1893 That's some really interesting stuff that I would have expected to learn from the video itself, rather than a comment on it. Cheers.
I think it's important to say that the reason Capcom got rid of Kinematics, mentioned as walking animation in this video, is because it's CPU heavy and the Nintendo Switch is fairly CPU bound/limited even compared to the XBox One and PS4 and especially PC. The other main reason is that monsters that "slide" like Leviathans, and few others, don't walk on four or two legs , which would be the points computed with Kinematics, but instead their entire bodies and that causes a CPU bottleneck which the XBox One and PS4 couldn't overcome and the Nintendo Switch wouldn't/can't either and why some popular monster didn't appear in World, the PC could overpower that limit but I don't think Capcom would release monsters only on one platform on a multi platform game, even the PC. So I don't see or think that Kinematics will return, at least for the next titles and or console generations, but it's possible. :)
Well said !
Well I think if mh6 is new gen/pc exclusive like world was, then new gen and pc may be able to reasonably handle those kinematics. Hard to say though as I think the series S underperforms a little bit so we will have to see
@@nebula8893
I think the cpu is same between the X and S so should be fine on that side.
HDR is so neglected recently. This game has it, most things I’ve seen have no mention. Usually I have to mess with the settings to get it to look right but it was great out of the box!
All games should have HDR at this point
@@HugoStiglitz88 Witcher 3 has it on console, and still has yet to get it on PC. It’s coming in the “next gen” update wtf.
It’s true, and worse are the people who buy crap HDR tvs and say that HDR is ass because that’s the only experience they’ve had. My friend absolutely loathes it because his 4 series TCL displays it horribly. He said it makes things too dark (not surprising) it’s a shame, hopefully one day cheaper HDR displays won’t be such shit.
@@zombiebillcosby most pc monitors suck at HDR because they aren't bright enough. Also, in my case, my monitor doesn't allow HDR + BFI at the same time so I almost never use it. BFI is way more important to me.
@@MrThecoolman have you tried it with Windows 11's auto HDR?
7:37 Small addendum, while the FPS-Halving is removed on enemies, Endemic life (the lil birds that you collect) are still affected by it - you can even see it on the green Vigorwasp in that PC shot.
10:48 Sadly, somewhat inaccurate. MOST cutscenes remain locked at 30fps, as in 90% of them well into the endgame. However, you can circumvent that with a mod called RiseTweaks which allows the cutscenes to render at your selected settings.
They most likely purposely set the cutscenes to 24FPS for a more cinematic feel. I went to school for filming it's required to make us believe something is more professional when watching media. The higher the framerate the more unprofessional and amateur non videogame related material is subconsciously interpreted.
If only this had Cross-Save and Crossplay..
Honestly that would have been very beneficial, especially to people who may have a PC/Switch setup..
But the game does look great on PC and for people who bought it on PC, Hope y'all are enjoying your time with it so far
Yea this is the main reason I am not buying it again for PC. If only I could have had cross save I would have bought it again day one.
@@wardog3d
I would have bought it on PC whenever I got the Steam Deck but since there is no Cross-Save at the very least, I'm content with just the Switch version as well
I said I wouldn't buy it on PC... but after playing the demo, now I'm on 83 hours alredy ^_^
Also, there's mods that allow you to customize those pesky RNG charms too
With how easy this port runs, over 120fps with 150% image quality at 4k on my 3080 I would love to see a Monster Hunter take full advantage of the RE engine and have a graphic level of something such as Resi 8.
Either way happy I got this game again, plays so much better than the Switch version thanks to 120fps.
For anyone wondering, I mainly play this on my gaming laptop with a rtx 3060 but have also tried it on my gpd win 3. It's the 1165g7 version with 96 eus on Intels iris xe integrated graphics. With a custom bat file to run the chip at 35 watt tdp (instead of the stock max of 28 watts) I can get a solid 60 fps at 1080p with 150% resolution scale and almost everything on high except for mesh detail and with foliage sway off. It plays amazing and it was really shocking to see it run at 60 fps 1080p on integrated graphics. It's a credit to both iris xe and how well the RE engine scales for lower end hardware. I was a bit skeptical when they released the system requirements because the recommended gtx 1060 only giving 1080p 30 fps seemed a bit conservative considering the immensely less powerful switch could run it at over 720p 30 fps.
TLDR: Anyone running more modern integrated graphics should be able to play this have at 60 fps with a few tweaks at a decent resolution
how does it perform on a RTX3060 for laptops?
@@Lalesama1987 my laptop has the i7 11375h and the 3060 only runs at 65 watt tdp with dynamic boost. It's the msi stealth 15m. It's meant to be a super portable slim gaming rig with the dimensions of a chrome book pretty much. Sacrifices power for portability. 65w has about 10-25% less performance depending on the game than the max 115w on better laptops. I cap at 90 fps with no problems with everything on high and VRS enabled. Runs beautifully.
Good to hear. I really dislike reviews like this video for using a really high end computer to test these games.
It doesn't even try to show the performance the wider gaming public will experience.
I think they low-balled the recommended specs output to be safe, but on my pc (Ryzen 5 3600, AMD RX 580 8 GB) the game runs 1080p max settings around 90 - 110 fps. On Monster Hunter World, I needed to turn some settings down to medium or low in order to get 1080p 60-80 fps.
it is kinda sad if that's the case HOW WEAK the switch is, 1080p with 150% resolution and you get 60 fps on integrated graphics, switch isn't able to do either resolution or performance.
The shadow-banding artifacts are very consistent for me when using the hub canteen (only the hub canteen though).
This is nice but things we kind of expected that after seeing this, im still more intrigued with what they accomplished with the Switch rather than the upgrades itself.
Not much, the switch had a bunch of framerates issues and poor textures
@@mauryj.3415 yep, playing in multiplayer even with a wired connection got pretty bad at times.
@@mauryj.3415 better than world on ps4 atleast. Sub 20 fps lol
@@therealbalto24 world runs so much better on PS4 than this, but perfect but at least way better, MH rise drops to 16fps at times lol
@@mauryj.3415 buddy there is analysis of both on this very channel anyone with half a brain can go look for themselves. Mhw on ps4 is 20fps with dips and mhr is 30 fps with dips. That's just FACTS unless you're saying you know better than Df themselves lmao.
Nothing changed thats worth buying. Only thing i can see thats worth is the modding community. No one cares about these changes that are hardly noticeable.
BEWARE Dynamic Shadows option is creating a courtain of grain at certain distance around the character. I think this is caused by switch form high res to low res shadows and lighting changes at the same distance with this option off. But this switch is much less noticable, then this grain which covers the screen at that distance, if you have the option on. Here you can see It at 4:51.
Wow thanks for the info. I noticed this right away during my first village mission and was wondering what setting was causing it. It's super noticeable on a big TV while wyvern riding as it seems the increased fov pulls the banding much closer than it normally is.
So if you disable dynamic shadows this will disappear?
Just built a new PC & have been playing MHW on a launch day ps4.... should I go for MHRise on PC or MHW on PC?
As someone that regularly goes back and plays older games from the series there is one thing that the PC version unfortunately can't do out of the box, and that is supply functional multiplayer after the servers get taken offline. The PSP, 3dS, and Switch games all support local connection, meaning that if you have RL friends that play, you can still hunt together without hoping someone in the emulation scene will write network functionality into an emulator, and that someone will figure out how to get around the master server issues.
World will be only the 3rd game in the series where multiplayer will cease to be available when Capcom decides to kill the servers. This alone makes it a disappointing title in many ways, despite the other improvements it made.
Oh, and Rise PC also uses Denuvo. That's disappointing too.
Still looks nice though.
True, it can't do it out of the box... but you don't get into PC gaming just for what games can do officially out of the box. No games are kept alive and online longer than PC games with dedicated communities. I have full confidence I'll be able to play online with my friends on PC in 30 years, provided we're all still alive and electricity and the internet still exists. I'm not even sure I'd still have my Switch (or any Switch) in good working form in 30 years, let alone enough for us to all get together and play a local match.
I mean, you only need to look as far as Phantasy Star Online!
That said, I would never say no to proper, official local multiplayer support on PC, my point wasn't to denigrate that, just that I think that's a bit of a short-sighted view.
Denuvo is cringe af
Didn't even notice Denuvo cuz the game runs like melted butter
I'm late, but it's worth mentioning that there are far more than 2 MH games that can't be played multiplayer anymore, unless you're only counting Western releases. Monster Hunter, Monster Hunter G, Monster Hunter Dos, and Monster Hunter Tri had all their online content lost when the servers were shut down. Thanks to private servers you can play Monster Hunter and Monster Hunter G online again, and the other two are able to accessed but only solo currently. Private servers are being worked on.
Luckily with World, once the servers go down, the content itself is still accessible excluding event quests. DRM still sucks though
I bought the collectors edition on Switch and enjoyed it, but the PC port is completely another beast. I cannot stress how much better the game feels on my PC running at 1440p/165Hz with improved visuals and instant loading times on an NVMe SSD. It takes a great game and turns it into one of my favourites of all time.
I'm really surprised you didn't mention the loading time improvements.
Wtf are my twin????? I also bought the Switch Collectors edition, and now play it at 1440p/165hz and was just about to comment about load times! For a sec I thought i already commented when I saw yours 😆
Я долго ждал версию для xbox series x, и был расстроен, игра выглядит точно так же, это просто портативная игра, и играть на больших консолях в неё не хочеться
uses an RTX Titan... uh - who owns that? mostly no one, and its not like you need that to max this out at 4k. Weird comparison is weird.
I'm running an i5 10400f and gtx 970. I'm hitting 100+ fps on medium settings and in 1440p. I'm super happy with this result. MHW struggled to hit 60fps all the time and in 1080p.
I like how easy the game runs tbh (yes yes bc it was built for the Switch so duuur lol)
On my 2080 I can easily run this at 4K 60fps at 150% image quality. (aka 6K internally)
or 4k 120fps at 100%
Even my 1070 runs 4k60 effortlessly. It's insane.
I still don’t understand how I can play online with 4 slicing bow guns during a rampage and there is zero lag. This game completely baffles my mind on switch versus all of the other games we have (looking at you Age of Calamity)
The side by side comparisons around the 5:00 mark really surprised me. I was expecting more of a wow factor, but the Switch holds up really well. It's so impressive that one is aging mobile tablet hardware while the other is a literal RTX Titan desktop GPU.
That's not how this works, though. You don't say "wow, that almost looks the same, the console version must be great!" when the console version was the first one to come out. All it means is that they didn't change that much about the pc version.
@@Ew-wth ikr he making it sound like the rtx is being maxed out when it really isnt, mh world is better example vs switch rise.
The switch is not as good as the pc version, the pc version that is as bad as the switch.
you would have the wow effect if the Pc version came out first - so it´s just a Switch Port with little enhancements but looks way worse than MHW did - i really hope the Next MH Game doesn´t include the Switch and also just Next Gen Consoles - cause that´s when the Graphics really going to get good
@Mat Sci “Nintendon’t” while we watch a video of the game running on Switch…. Also, not that it matters, but the RTX Titan is about 16.3 TFLOPs while a Switch that’s docked is around 786 GFLOPs. So based on that, an RTX Titan would be closer to around 21 Nintendo Switches, not 1000. Thanks for your response though.
I cant wait for digital foundry to start doing steam deck comparisons
Steamdeck is just a pc but with custom presets, you could put the same settings on your own pc.
@@traxtan6694 yes? But what it does have limitations I don't want to fiddle with a game to get optimal performance. I'd rather just watch a video of someone doing it to see if putting the game on the deck is worth my time
i dont know why this was compared as a 4k60 title. it runs like a dream at 1440 165. its smoothness is not ever comparable to the switch version, which look choppy even compared to 60
it looks good enough and just feels so damn good to play at such a high fps
Graphic wise it was okay. PC has higher texture, frame rate etc. But gameplay-wise especially for gunner - or archer - PC version lacks motion controller - which turns me into an archer on MHRise. Even the steam motion control emulation setting won't do as good as in switch.
ah yes bc is hard to connect controller to pc xDDD
To think, Pokemon Legends looks like a PS2 gen game, where as Capcom made this beauty on the Switch.
I'd love to snag the PC version of this, but alas, the lack of cross save and cross play made me reconsider. I just don't feel like redoing everything all over again.
People who say the side by side comparison doesn't look that much different. Here's a tip: maybe try actually watching this video on a screen that supports 4k resolution. If you already are and still can't tell the difference then I have nothing else to say
There's more to an image than the resolution, dingus. If you can't tell the difference then I have nothing else to say.
@@choo_choo_ did you misunderstood me? I'm saying that there is a difference. I know there are more than just resolutions, but what I said is the easiest way for those who keep saying that there isn't a difference to actually see them. Learn how to read better before you call people out, "dingus"
I’m glad they ported it to PC, because I know there are a lot of die hard fans who have good PCs that would not get a switch to play, but the portability is one of the main positives of the switch version, it came it clutch on those long deployments out to sea
This game is already a masterpiece on Switch. 300h + and waiting for Sunbreak to release.
That's why I didn't buy it. 😢 I would of also had around 300+ hours.
But I may finally get the ultimate edition if it comes out. On switch of course.
Such an amazing Switch experience...
@@dnegel9546 it's not a separate game, it's an add-on to the base game so you don't lose any progress
@@KEGosti so it's just dlc? Any info if they have an ultimate version coming out?
@dnegel
They're **Might** be a potential complete edition perhaps on Switch?
I'm not sure, I'm just guessing it's possible one day
With 150% image rendering at 3440x1440 it looks quite sharp, but thank you for mentioning it I completely forgot about it. I think I am going to try stick to 100% to try get a locked 144fps. Perhaps experiment with the new DLDSR to get the internal res bump with some performance to spare
I think DLDSR doesn't improve performance per se over DSR, just image quality. So a 2.25x DSR and 2.25x DLDSR have the same frame rate, it's just that the DLDSR image looks better. I could well be wrong here though as I haven't used it much yet. Alex is working on an upcoming video about it...
My big issue with DSR and DLDSR is that they break VRR for me. I guess the higher resolutions are out of my 1440p monitor's range...
On PC endemic life still occasionally suffers from that Switch half framerate animation at sometimes surprisingly short distances
In fairness you have to give props to Capcom for the Switch version's optimising because the game looks better than we all thought it could on that system.
Can you guys do a comparison of all Deep Rock Galactic versions?
To be honest, this comparison only reinforces my decision to stay on the Switch version for when Sunbreak releases. As nice as it would be to run Rise on my PC maxed out at higher refresh rates, my experience with the Switch version was largely flawless. I was able to complete the game without any qualms over it being a sometimes inconsistent 30fps.
Had Capcom promoted cross-progression of some sort, then MAYBE I'd double dip once Sunbreak releases. But as it stands, I'm still quite impressed with Switch's offering for Rise and will stick to that platform.
I'm gonna get it on PC eventually when it goes on a decent sale since my partner wants to try it out but yeah I agree with you that for the most part I'll be sticking to Switch esp for Sunbreak. The Switch version has been perfect for me being in your mid 20s working an 8hr job. Also I sometimes here people say the Rise doesn't look good on Switch and to those people I say get some glasses lol
@@reyjustine7116 Seriously. I consider myself to have a keen eye for technical showcases in games and I'm still taken aback by how well Rise runs and looks on Switch hardware. You'd fool me into thinking it was a first party title.
Shut I couldn't wait for the PC, the switch version was vomit inducing to me, I'm glad I waited.
There will be save editors like there were for World, just wait for that and then you can give yourself all the stuff you had on Switch! Easy peasy!
@@CZProductions I'll consider it if and when Rise goes on sale before Sunbreak lol
Can not wait for the Steam Deck just to play this game. It'll be the definite portable experience.
MH WORLD on Steam Deck >>>>
@@JP-me7sy nah
at first i thought Steam Deck would be a poor man's version of the Switch, but after all i've it looks better and better each time.
Almost unbeliavable its selling for that price
Just doesn't have the resume feature that Switch has.
@AzenStreams has anyone's yet?
I chose 100% image quality on 4k with a 1080, and get 100 - 120 fps, its world changing coming from the switch version.
I spent HOURS playing UNITE on PSP back when I was a teen. Playing it on Switch just feels right to me. Nostalgia I guess.
After pumping around 300+ hours on the switch I can tell you that the switch to pc is worth it. Also this game with HDR enabled is just gorgeous
Dunno what to do there after 60 hours...
If Capcom had implemented cross-save between Switch and PC this would’ve been a day-one purchase! But to do all that hunting and grinding again…nah not worth it. A very big missed opportunity
Lighting looks pretty bad maybe because switch limitations?
As someone with very lowend specs (RX550, i5 2400), I can say this game runs comfortably at 1080p medium at 60fps.
Nintendo switch version holds up quite well.
Only DF would compare switch vs pc_4k, next video atari vs pc_4k
Switch version looks great compered to PC.
165fps locked for me, thats all i needed from the PC port :)
yup same here
Wait... so you are meaning to tell me... that this game already has foot clipping issues............ and yet they STILL say "we can't add lagiacrus for clipping and terrain issues"????????
Switch holds its own very well, i can barely see a difference when sitting about 7ft from a 50ich 4k screen.
What makes the world of difference is 60fps vs 30fps
Yeah not worth double dipping without cross save. Switch profile is too far along. No cross play either was a nail in the coffin since the Switch version has a much larger community. Steam barely like 500k while Switch has millions.
60 FPS is nice, but not worth the trade off.
*Insert "they're the same picture" meme*
I must admit however fairly or unfairly I feel slightly dissapointed by the limited improvements from switch version, I was expecting just a little bit more than this.
So for awhile I was having problems with stuttering killing my game. Turns out the issue was with my Occulus Rift. Apparently it was mirroring what was going on in my monitor (I think) and when I unplugged it from my pc the game was running completely fine. Ever since I've been playing the game at a locked 141 and it's amazing. So yeah, if someone is having a similar issue maybe try that.
The disconnection between the hardware used for the review, and what most people have is mind blowing...
I know right pretty pointless video testing it on a card no one has
its slightly better than a rtx 2080
I've played this game on my switch a lot. I'm just happy I can play it on 60fps now on pc
So what about performance on other hardware (at least 1 low end spec and 1 middle end to get the feeling of scalability? What about support for ultra-wide? What about 120 fps or higher support?
It has 21:9 support, but I don't think wider. It has a uncapped frame rate option, I have a 5800x and RTX3080 and play it at 4k 120fps with it maxed and 150% image quality. I'd imagine any old or low end PC could easily do 1440p 60fps or really low end could do 1080p 60. For 120+ you'd want a 3600 or better as it gets single core CPU heavy.
Although raytracing and cross-save were some of the most requested features, and a missed oportunity from Capcom, the port is still worth it's price.
4k resolution, ultra wide support, some aditional content like filters, and great optimization, a low range pc can run this game perfectly. What I liked the most was the fact that I can see the monsters far away running at 60fps, it helps to create a sense of a living enviroment, like MH: World.
The port is absolutely not worth the price. What are you smoking?
This is a $30 title at max. Charging full price for it is ridiculous.
The best part is they'll charge $40+ for the expansion when it launches.
This video impressed me with the Switch version, actually.
This game on OLED is a masterpiece
Nothing compares to pc gaming
Yeah i noticed the artifacting on the "chin" area on pc too. But not too distracting when maxed
Dude…this game looks too good on the switch
No, this game looks like bad in pc
When the best thing of a port from console to PC is resolution and frame rate, you realize that there's no real upgrade, just a simple port.
Come on, 4k res and higher frame rate isn't any kind of upgrade at all on pc.
Capcom could've spent their time on this masterpiece and given it a proper upgrade, with really good textures, better lighting and shadows to name a few.
I think this was more of an afterthought in the wake of the next major PC release. Game feels great to play and looks good enough, but it's "world 2" that really has me excited.
@@JoeNokers mhw 2 is one of the most anticipated game ever for me. Can't wait to play it. And I hope it doesn't get released on last gen consoles. So it can be a full new gen game.
Screenspace Shadows would have been great for foliage - everything smaller than a tree just floats
Still god damn happy I got it on pc
Dumped well over 100 hours on the Switch version and I can't wait to pick this up on Steam so I can play it in 4k and on my Steam Deck!
Have fun buying the same game twice
Meh. This game was clearly made for the switch. Doesn’t look all that much better except for framerate. Idk about repurchasing for pc just to get 16.66ms back but I need to play it on my desk. Fuck that.
I was 100% that you would've made a video on Nier Replicant 1.22 (remake/remaster) comparing it to the original. But apparently it wasn't done. It would've been really interesting
Great vid! This game looks good at low resolutions, but once you see it in 4k, it's hard to go back.
Especially when you see it in 8K on my 5
Pretty much nothing else but the ridiculous price.
Looks amazing on the switch but really a missed opportunity for PC as it looks pretty bad there compared to the previous games
Would be great to see Steam Deck comparisons for a game like this. It’s well optimized for the Switch (still a little too much sometimes for the hardware) so it will be interesting to see how much better the Steam Deck is.
this game is so fast paced and amazing, I loved world but I think this might edge it just a bit.
It looks great on pc but if I'm honest this is so impressive on switch and the difference isn't really that striking at all to me. I do get that it's essentially a game built for switch just boosted up for pc but I think I'd play it on switch even if I hadn't bought it already. The upgrades aren't worth the loss in portability, to me at least.
There are Handheld Gaming PCs now and SteamDeck releasing next month.
So there will be no loss in portability.
@@AdmiralBison Steam deck is cool, but it's huge. I'm not throwing that in my bag wherever I go. Besides, the switch is just a much nicer physical item to use in the real world than these portable pc console designs. Obviously it's nowhere near as powerful but if the game is essentially the same then I just don't care personally. It's all preference, though.
Finally owner of RTX Titan can play at max setting on 4K.
@Digital Foundry
No response to Horizon II : Forbiden West Story Trailer ?
You know,tech analysis and stuff
I mean on switch with an m classic it cleans up the graphics so well that I don’t even care for the graphical improvements that it gets on pc or next gen consoles.
More than anything this makes me even more impressed with the Switch, and now more inclined to get that version for the option of handheld play and some local multiplayer sessions.
a whole whopping 15 frames per second 😍(the human eye cant see more than 4fps anyway fkn pc dogs!!!)
Been playing it on Steam and it's a great game. Playing at 120 fps at 1440p is so good.
How are you getting 120fps? Digital foundry only managed 60
@@dnegel9546 It depends on the hardware you have. I get around a 190 fps average at 1440p with Image Quality set to 150% but the game doesn't fully utilize my gpu. Still plenty of performance for a smooth experience. You can remove the framerate cap and set it to unlimited in the settings.
@@dnegel9546 with an 3070 I get more than 120 fps at 2k 16:10 and %150 image quality. The game is not that demanding
I've been having a huge issue with stuttering. Have you come across anything similar? It's so bad it's unplayable
@@tacticalevil what hardware do you have? 3700x + 2070S and zero issues here.
However I never had issues with World and Iceborne either, and I remember some people did have them.
Why only test for 60fps? This game supports 144+ / uncapped.. At least some mention of that would of been nice.. And ideally, some testing.
I agree 60fps it's so much smoother, but Not so long ago, people were tolerant of 30fps PS4 and PS4 pro games. Also its not just a case of having a game that hits 60fps, you need a consistent stutter free game without frame time issues. Same with 30fps.
The lack of fidelity compared to World isn't a big deal to me, because Rise's gameplay feels much better, and at 4K120 this is the best MonHun experience ever personally by a long shot. The only gripe I have is the locked 30fps cutscenes, which is already fixable by mods
I haven’t dug in with this yet because I’m playing God of War (and Monster Hunter takes over my life once I start ;). I’m actually happy that this is pretty much just a straight port of a lightweight game that simply runs smoother and at higher resolutions. It feels like a Nintendo game, I can’t explain it, but it gave me nostalgia when I played the opening hours.
Asides from framerate and native rendering resolution there's virtually barely ANY difference. It's pretty hard to notice the foilage swaying, seems like a lazy port when considering it's console brethrens drawbacks.
Comparing the switch with a pc is as ridiculous as comparing a pc with a switch. Nonetheless the differences don’t show this, obviously this is a port and has no pc quality, so release it on Xbox so I don’t need to plug my switch back.
I have a 1300 hour 100% save on switch and without cross saves I just can’t justify it
No DLSS here seems like a missed opportunity. WIth all the foliage, temporal stability would really get a boost from DLSS/DLAA as well as allowing more cards to reach high fps, more consistently. Hoping maybe the plan is for Sunbreak to add raytraced AO/reflections and DLSS features?
Maybe but with how light the game is I wonder if DLSS does make any sense.
My sister runs this on a GTX970 at 1080p with mostly max settings at 60fps, meanwhile World needed a combination of low/medium to achieve barely the same.
What I mean is that cards that support DLSS have plenty of power to run this, if anything FSR would make more sense here.
Comparing a PC to a Switch is like comparing a Ferrari to a tricycle.
I just cant bring myself to pay full price for a hand held game, ported to pc. Lets be honest, the graphics look trash. If you want to play a switch game in 4k, this is the pc port for you. If graphics matter to you, play monster hunter world, It at least looks like a game made in this decade.
I wanted to buy this so freaking bad but they lost me when they didn't bring cross saves. I have 160 hours in to rise on my switch. The hell if I am starting that all over again. My buddies all said they will stick to playing on Switch as well. That means at least 5 sales of the game on PC were lost because of not having cross saves. Hades has cross saves on Switch to steam. So I am sad that they didn't do it and they lost my money for the PC release.
11:22 that's bold
He was obviously referring to MHrise and not the whole MH series, ultimately the comparison here is between the 2 MH games running under the RE engine. His paragrah started at 11:00 clearly referring to MHrise Whether it was intentional or not, omiting "rise" to his statement says he's either sloppy at his work or purposely click baiting statements... but i doubt it's the latter.
Cross save for progress on the go? That’s what me future Deck is for.
they should have worked on the polygons in the PC version.
it's very weird to see high texture quality on such "square" models.
"With as much performance on PC as it needs", this mindset of a LOT of PC Gamers (more specifically PCMasterRace subscribers) really irks me.
Whilst the average gaming desktop is more powerful than a Switch, that DOESN"T mean that assuming that everybody has a beast of a PC when they are running games is correct.
Heck, I started gaming on a Pentium 4 with integrated graphics cards, moved on to Core 2 Duo and stayed there for a decently long time. Most of the times I was gaming at 800x600 resolution.
Even if something comes to PC, all those configurations ARE part of PC gaming want it or not. PC Gaming isn't all RGB liquid COOLED Titan Threadripper $5000 wetdream.
Me despite having a decent rig for most stuff am still on a few year old Omen laptop with GTX 1060. With launch of 30 series it was a good time to upgrade as 20 series simply did not seem worth it, but the scalping situation and DLSS has flipped that around SO much that even an RTX 2060 is pretty decent deal.
Not to mention, the fact that this game literally comes from a low-powered handheld and is OPTIMIZED for such. So not testing it for handheld stuff like Aya Neo or just weaker stuff, as Steamdeck IS literally the next big thing in PC gaming despite being pretty weak, is KINDA tonedeaf really.
The people who like to pretend that PC is ALL about that $5000 Threadripper Titan builds and it's all good in PC Candyland with no issues REALLY irk me the most. As if I didn't have a random BSOD yesterday on my PC after I woke it from hibernation. Shit is amazing, but not perfect. Calling it anything is a disservice to all those who debug, diagnose and fight all the flaws of the PC. Including GabeN, who fought PC Piracy, the biggest flaw for PC Gaming Industry, and kinda won even.
Seeing this after the leaked Pokémon Arceus pics really puts into perspective how much the switch can handle and how poorly Game Freak has been with their games
Sadly capcom downgrade the graphic to be more handheld since in japan they like their handheld console and play where they feel it right comparison wise i don't really see the difference other then 60 FPS graphic wise it kinda look the same but i might be wrong
This game is beautiful at 2k 144fps HDR