Looking it up on IMDB, director Jose Padilha did not have a fun time directing. He wanted to make the movie a certain way but the studio kept enforcing their demands (Padilha wanted the movie R-rated but the studio forced it to be pg-13). Because of this, Padilha was incredibly blue because he felt his vision was harvested away from him, which led to the working title being blue harvest
@@SonicAlpha ok, according to IMDb, there WAS massive studio interference which Padilha WAS dissatisfied with (even phoning a friend to vent his frustrations); I just couldn’t think of any better way to insert a blue harvest joke
@@BR-jw7pmsuch a dumb studio take (as always with big studios lol) "Let's take one of the most gritty and brutal and ludicrously bloody and violent dystopian R-rated films, and remove the violence!" And then they have a confused panda face when the movie failed...God I hate movie studios
@@IloveGorgeousGeorge I walked out of the theater, collecting my thoughts on this movie before quickly coming to the same conclusion as OP, then realizing "Oh crap they Robocop'd the Robocop reboot how meta is that?". It really is a good movie that got blown up, then pieced together into what a corporate entity thought would hit target demographics and make them the most money.
The “there’s nothing left” scene was without question the one scene that this whole movie should’ve been as good as. That was genuinely emotional and horrific. I FELT the empty sickness he would have felt in his phantom stomach.
I like this flick. Is it the original? No. But if it was simply a cheesy remake of the original, I'd probably hate it. Because there was never any need for a complete redo of an already beloved movie.
I'm like that with most reboots, I see it, think it was pretty good and then see people saying that the original is better, then I watch the original and agree with them lmao
I actually really like the Robocop reboot. It was more psychological horrorific and had more philosophical aspects than the original wich I appreciated. And considering how high the bar was set from the original I think they delivered probably as good as you can do without just copy and pasting the original.
As a teenager that hadnt watched the originals, i loved the total recall and robocop reboots when i was in high school. But when i actually watched the originals i was blown away by how much better they were
I still love both the remakes and the originals for exactly what they are. I'm glad you got to watch the remakes first, so you could really appreciate them, before moving on to see the wilder original ones.
I'd say gb2 was my favourite up until afterlife came along. Gb2 Still ranks highly for me though. And despite vastly disagreing with james' comments on the franchise they are still the Boyz so I'm willing to let it slide 😉
It's his almost wholesome way of doing that "TH-camrs need drama for engagement" thing. Like a very select few GB nerds will chime in when the algorithm says so, they'll get triggered, leave a dumb misspelled comment, and we get an eventual h8 mail segment. It's win win all around.
@@Type75Advance The ultra violence in the first two were meant as a satire of over the top American action movies and by sanitizing the violence you remove a noticeable section of it.
Original recipe 'RoboCop' was a near-perfect movie that worked on a bunch of different levels, so this remake had an uphill battle from the start. Having said that, I think all involved took a pretty good crack at it, in terms of casting, the themes it tackled and in the way it differentiated itself from the original (this time, Murphy is clearly a living person trapped inside a robot body he doesn't always have full control over, whereas in the original it was kind of hinted at that RoboCop might just be a machine that mistakenly started to think it was a man because of some leftover memories in its organic components, which were harvested from the body of a dead policeman ... hence its original working title, 'Blue Harvest'). There's a lot to like about this remake, but it was never going to live up to the original.
People never seem to realise that many great movies are great precisely because they are of their time and when you watch them they bring that context in with them.
That was the one thing I think this movie almost got right: contrasting the War on Terror international military occupation "policing" with policing economically-depressed crime-ridden Detroit. It just maybe didn't go quite far enough to actually SAY something interesting about "urban pacification."
If there are people that need to realize stuff it needs to be studio heads. Every time a movie like this flops they go to the director and the vast majority of replies is studio interference. It like team owners calling football plays. They don't know what they are doing just let go of control and let the director direct.
@@Chasmodius spot on. It makes RC14 almost heartbreaking to watch. If it had the bite of the original, it sincerely could have been The Movie of the 2010s, but it's toothless
I guess a real test of a movie, then, is when people from different generations continue to appreciate it. Sometimes because of how it just nails the time.
Pretty solid remake for most of it. Good contrast to the original is that, in this version, OCP didn't just erase Murphy's humanity straight away, but gradually made him more robotty as they "improved" their product.
They could’ve named it robot cop and would’ve been equally bad. How can you say it’s solid when not even the suit resembles the identity of him? It’s another Hollywood black suit.
How is this pointless movie with nothing to say and a refusal to present an obvious valid counterargument to not wanting killbots that humans can't defend against a pretty solid remake? For that matter how and why would a cyborg cop lead people to wanting killbots?
What shame? the rest is pretty solid too, satire is still there, adopted to contemporary world, emotions are there, action is solid but not too fantastical, great actors. It would never beat the original. but idiots like the author of this video just went overboard with it
The concept artists working on the film were told to make a much bleaker, darker look for the eponoymous Robot Cop - this meant losing a lot of the azure hue of the original suit. Hence, the concept team's working title for this task was "Blue Harvest."
It's exactly how I feel about basically every movie Batsuit absolutely refusing to use blue. Grey and blue and yellow looks so much better than black and maybe some grey, sometimes, with just a teensy drop of yellow. No good.
I feel if there wasn’t the original, if this had been the first Robocop movie ever, it would have done better. It’s not a bad movie. The cast is great. The effects are way better than what we’re getting today. There was potential here.
I'm only realizing now how funny it is that that huge car explosion somehow spared Murphy's face entirely, because based on his orientation to the car you'd think that would have been the first thing to go
That scene is where I think they one upped on the original. It really is some legit body horror that makes you question at what point are you still a human man if you start stripping away body parts and replacing them with robotics. Maybe it's almost too real for people to think about in comparison to the blood bath killings of the orginal but damn does it leave an impact seeing that.
@@jessecortez9449 The most haunting part is when they return to that shot at the end of the movie, and he's no longer panicking. He's just accepted his new condition as a head with plastic-coated lungs. Absolutely terrified me back in the day. But, it's probably the one moment in the movie I actually remembered.
You also don't expect it here because his face and helmet look very "human". His eyes aren't covered. His skin tone looks healthy. He just looks like a guy in a motorcycle helmet. When Alex Murphy took off his visor in the original he looked ghastly. His skin was stretched taut across a hardware armature and fixed with bolts and wires. It was obvious from day one that he was a robot with a bit of flesh grafted on. I really can't blame Remake Robo for thinking he was in a suit.
@lisah-p8474 The original dealt really well with the "just a brain and some organs" idea without really showing it and leaving it to the imagination with the "build" scene from his perspective. Robocop himself even mentions how his face is "Made to honour him" and very likely a prostethic as well. (Not sure if that was in RC2 or RC1 right now) (edited for a small correction)
Imagine if in Iron Man 1, Tony spends the entire film in the silver MK.2 suit, and they have the scene where he considers putting it in its iconic red and yellow colors only for him to go "Nah, that's stupid" That's how I feel about the suit in this movie.
More like if they took Extremis, and instead of setting it up into a Superior Iron Man-style hijacking reveal spanning the next several Avengers movies that culminates in Civil War, they just gave it to Pepper and then didn't even let her be a superhero. I hurt about as much on IM3 as I do with the suit colors of 2014, which probably means I care too much about the Robocop suit colors
Watching Iron Man as a child with no knowledge of comics, I was disappointed when he painted the suit as I thought the colours looked ugly and the original sleek silver was much nicer. Even with vastly improved comics knowledge I still stand by that, tbh.
@ellaisplotting Eh, I think the red and yellow works for his character, especially in that first film. Tony is a narcissist to a fault. He wants to be seen, so of course, when he creates this super mech suit, he's gonna put it in the gaudiest colors imaginable.
We're only **four** years away from having Adam Jensen style stabby arms and retractable sunglasses. You never asked for this but between him and Murphy we're headed for a cyborg future.
I’ve been with you guys for a few years now and this is seriously the first time I’ve been in a group waiting on a video to premiere. I didn’t even know y’all did this!
Having not watched the video: I just realized that not having Robocop’s face horribly fused to the surrounding casing really takes away from the visceral nature of his hellish existence.
@@skepticalbadgeryep! "Get rid of the arm, full body prosthesis!" They synthesized a dead man's face in the original and stretched it over a robot to sell, because it was the 80s, and Bob Morton needed more coke and hooker money. Much more unsettling than a brain enclosure.
"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this: Conan! Destined to bear the jewelled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" *DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH*
Not going to lie, I have a soft spot for this one. Completely different vibe from the original -- that scene where they show him what's left of his body was actually amazing.
I went to see the remake because of Jose Padilha He directed the Brazillian movie ELITE SQUAD, which is a very influential movie in my country And with all things considered, I think he did a really good job as a director in the remake I really liked his style. I just wish it was R-Rated Even the director wanted that way, and tried to convince the studio of that
I originally didn't give this movie a chance because I don't think they should be remaking classics and I expected it to just be a lame updated action movie with bad CGI. But eventually I ended up borrowing a Blue Ray copy off a friend and honestly, it was a far better film than I’d anticipated with a much more nuanced story. Yes, it had better special effects, but it wasn't all CGI action, and what CGI there was was extremely well done, especially the scene where they strip away all his parts to reveal that the only organs they’d harvested were his lungs and hand. This was probably why the original title was initially going to be Blue Harvest which coincidentally was also the working title for the 1977 film Star Wars.
As someone that grew up loving robocop i found the reboot to be fun. Its not a great movie, but as just a fun action movie with some nostalgia elements i liked it!
James had me in tears when he said, "Yeah... he beats up a bemulleted Hugh Jackman!" That's a sentence I never thought I'd hear but now one that I can't live without 😅
It's interesting to note that the original Robocop was also meant to fast and nimble like this one in the remake. But because the suit was bulky and heavy, Peter Weller and his mime coach had to quickly change his movements into more slower movements like what we ended up seeing in the original.
I watched this for the first time the other day. I thought the prototype suit was really cool until they painted it black. Also that scene where they first reveal what is left of him is fantastic.
I really felt like the soul of the original movie was killed by corporate tinkering in the remake. Not that the actors did a bad job, or the outfit designers, or the CGI engineers. It's just so soulless, safe, and doesn't point enough fingers at corporate greed and shortcomings.
Yes, FUCK ALL!!! There are even some MORONS out there, who actually prefer the remake all just because they think it had better CGI and visual effects... 🤨 Like SERIOUSLY??? That would be like sayin' Metropolis (1927) should've been custom-tailored to appeal more towards audiences from 2027. These hopeless morons seem to think that the whole entire 'Robocop' franchise should've been based on the remake, or whatever time period/era that THEY came from! I just wonder, who came up with that kinda ASS-BACKWARDS way of thinking? 🤔
The single greatest scene in this movie is when they pull away all the parts and you see how much is actually left of Murphy. That was genuinely shocking.
His face looked stupid in the suit / helmet thing. Original Robocop Paul Veroven was very aware that the teeth and jaw had to be perfect to make it look cool.
The scene showing he's just a face with a sack of organs has always stuck with me. The orginal had a blood bath of killing but that scene just hits different because it makes you think about at what point are you still your human self if pieces of you are stripped away and replaced with robotics. Maybe it's a little too real for most people in comparison to the original with bloody killings, a guy getting his dick shot off and a guy getting wrecked by toxic waste.
Hey guys, I know this video is over a year old but, when you included footage of the Boston Dynamics robots, the editor put in the spoof video by Corridor Digital.
25 movies that should never be touched (remade) in no particular order 1. Star wars E1-6 2. Jaws 3. A nightmare on Elm Street * 4. Schindler's List 5. Any 1980's Indiana Jones movie 6. Forest Gump 7. Gremlins 8. The Green Mile 9. Ghostbusters* 10. Apollo 13 11. Robocop* 12. Shaw Shank Redemption 13. Alien 14. Aliens 16. E.T. 17. The never ending story 18. The Wizard of Oz * 19. The Return of the Living Dead 20. Pulp Fiction 21. Mad Max 22. Predator 23. Terminator 24. Pumkin Head 25. Saving Private Ryan * movies with * are ones that some jack off did make a remake to (and i don't care that they called ghostsbusters 2016 a reboot , that shit was a remake not a reboot) EDIT : 26. Total Recall * EDit 2: i can get over Optimus prime being a different truck .. what i couldn't get over , was bumble bee not being a VW bug , and talking lmore like wreckgar than like bumble bee.
Nah. This is what "update for modern audiences" should mean. It makes sense enough, and it poses a lot of good questions about what we are as humans and biological computers. Do we react, and then invent a reason why we acted? Are we in control, or are we simply pretending? Is it partial or total? Yea. It is a good movie, and everyone should think it is. Except the black suit. That was a face-slap moment.
The remake is a solid movie on it's own terms. It has more on its mind than many other tentpoles we get today. I also think it's a bit unfair to hold it up against it's powerhouse classic progenitor, because it was never the intention to emulate Verhoeven's film, not in style nor tone. The remake is not a comic book or a satirical romp. It's more Robocop by way of Black Mirror. It's focus is on the science of the fiction and the inhumanity behind it that clashes with the heart and human spirit of man. I get that it was hampered by studio meddling, but Pedilha imo still pulled off a worthwhile film that stands on its own. No need to find Verhoeven's film inside a remake that wasn't trying to be that.
they ramp up prize for game . but iam pretty sure treyon done decent game . looks so far better then any robocop game since robocop vs terminator hope they improve gameplay loop , i dont liked scripted sequences in resistance but sneaking around terminators with flametrower was realy fun
That's why they used his voice again in Robocop: Rogue City... If even a mere videogame could be a strong indicator of ANYTHING, then it would remind us of WHY it is so hella damn important to always stick with the source material. There are even some MORONS out there, who actually prefer the remake all just because they think it had better CGI and visual effects... 🤨 Like SERIOUSLY??? That would be like sayin' Metropolis (1927) should've been custom-tailored to appeal more towards audiences from 2027. These hopeless morons seem to think that the whole entire 'Robocop' franchise should've been based on the remake, or whatever time period/era that THEY came from! I just wonder, who came up with that kinda ASS-BACKWARDS way of thinking? 🤔
A really disappointing thing about the production of this movie is that director José Padilha originally wanted the working title of the movie to be "Blue Harvest," but the studio shot shot him down and made it "Black Yield."
I really hated that they left him with that one hand. It just felt really distracting when viewed with the rest of the suit. Just has "Michael Jackson's white glove" vibes
I actually enjoyed this movie. Not as good as the original. I liked the family relationship of Alex, his wife, and kid that the original skipped over. Plus the ED-209's seemed like something that could exist in the near future because of drones and the combat UAV's the military currently uses.
Ironically I think this films downfall is the fact that it’s not terrible or great? It’s the one thing you don’t want for your film: mediocre at best. It instantly relegates this to being forgotten. Plus not only does the black ruin the iconic look of the character but their incessant need to show his full face makes it feel like he’s just a special forces soldier in a suit, not THE iconic film cyborg that Robo-Cop is.
This review is so bang-on for my own feelings when this came out. Not at all a bad movie, moments and seeds of really great ideas that expanded or went in different, interesting directions than the original, but none of which felt fully executed and the humorous satire was sorely missed (though arguably wouldn't work anyway without the over-the-top violence as counter-balance). The PG-13 rating and weird shitting on the OG design were nail in the coffin ideas for sure. It's too bad this movie happened pre-Deadpool, I think this same script now would've been executed much better. Hopefully these new projects follow the lead of Rogue City and don't disappoint.
Like the issue i have it the designs in this film is the problem of misunderstanding the decisions of the original. The points being stated. The ED 209 is a design like the daleks. They're meant to look efficient and cool but actually be ineffective as hell. These are police drones that are fucking huuuge that can't go up fucking stairs.
Personally speaking, I was quite surprised to learn that this film was only 9 years old. For some reason I thought this film came out sometime around 2008-2009.
I remember seeing this in theaters with my dad when it came out and the scene where Murphy is shown what is left of his body always stuck with me. I wish the studio actually let them make a movie with that dark tone and R rating.
How about a Gary Oldman retrospective? Or any retrospective of an actor, actress, or director you’d want to do a retrospective on? Even a Rodney retrospective would be cool.
I can’t stress enough about these two boys over here at Sunday movies being my saviours when I have no content to cool down after the gym too, fucking heroes mate 🤙🏽
Gary Oldman's filmography is bizarrely amazing. He has one of the widest ranges (the widest?) of any actor his generation. Behold the variety of accents and personas: Stephen Frears' "Prick Up Your Ears" Oliver Stone's "JFK" Tony Scott's "True Romance" Peter Medak's "Romeo is Bleeding" Christopher Nolan's "Batman" films Francis Ford Coppola's horny "Dracula" David Fincher's "Mank" Alex Cox's "Sid and Nancy" the "Harry Potter" films It goes on and on...Gary Oldman is an actor who _does not_ play versions of himself film-after-film (like too many other film actors.) And what I particularly love about Oldman is he is not matinee-idol handsome. He is a perfect example of an actor who succeeds not because he's pretty, but because he's insanely gifted.
Slight tangent on the Assassin's Creed movie as a huge fun of the games: such a missed opportunity. I know that the modern day storyline with Abstergo is also a part of the games, but the reason you play an AC title is to parkour through old cities and meet historical figures, and the movie had to dedicate so much time to setting up the Abstergo stuff at the expense of seeing an Assassin story during the Spanish Inquisition. By the movie had come out, even the games had started deemphasizing the modern storylines (it's still there, but you can usually ignore it), and I think that a better way to set it up may have been to start the movie with like a corporate play testing of the new Abstergo AC game (which they started having be an in-game thing around AC III Liberation I believe), and then have some hackers get into the system and take the protagonist into the un-sanitized version of their ancestor's journey. Saying it out loud, I'm realizing how could kind of be a Robocop-esque commentary on the way history is often rewritten or suppressed by big institutions to justify their own power...plus parkour and Ben Franklin.
Isn’t that the biggest issue though? The studio NOT wanting to separate it and insisting on callbacks to the original? So much relying on making sure that the audience knew for a fact without a shadow of a doubt that it was a remake of the original.
Watching this movie, I feel like the director was trying to make a statement about how hollywood reanimates franchises and they’re so far removed from themselves. I can’t explain it but, but there’s an odd air about it that feels intentional, like the director is trying to sneak it past the producers but it doesn’t quite translate.
I think this is a really good and underrated remake, the climax feels a bit to “video game cut scene”, and Michael Keaton‘s villain turn doesn’t make much sense, but I like what they explored with Robocop‘s family (that felt different and fresh), it has a great cast & performances, and all the stuff with prosthetic and Murphy seeing what’s left with his body was very scary, tragic, and interesting at the same time.
I loved how this movie did something different with loss of identity. OG Robocop starts out thinking he's definitely Robocop and slowly realizes he's Murphy, more or less. I liked this focusing on Murphy realizing that he's not actually entirely Murphy anymore, he's a composite being with Murphy's memories. They could have done more with it, but I was happy to see them working in the speculative fiction side of sci-fi.
I just came here to increase your engagement by expressing my absolute outrage at anyone saying literally anything about any Ghostbusters film. How dare you, sir?! They're all flawless, for all I know!
Looking it up on IMDB, director Jose Padilha did not have a fun time directing. He wanted to make the movie a certain way but the studio kept enforcing their demands (Padilha wanted the movie R-rated but the studio forced it to be pg-13). Because of this, Padilha was incredibly blue because he felt his vision was harvested away from him, which led to the working title being blue harvest
He should talk to Alan Ritchson about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 😂
Ngl, you had me there for a moment, well played.
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@@SonicAlpha ok, according to IMDb, there WAS massive studio interference which Padilha WAS dissatisfied with (even phoning a friend to vent his frustrations); I just couldn’t think of any better way to insert a blue harvest joke
@@BR-jw7pmit was beautiful
The “hey this is the design people like” and the CEO going “nah, make it bad instead” is hilarious actually
Perfectly on brand for an out of touch CEO.
I almost think that this was added as a subtle 'F U' to the studio overreach....
It's called subverting expectations. Whatever the audience wants, go the other way.
The public likes terrible products constantly
I dont know if I'll get heat for this but i actually prefer the reboot design over the OG
I have always felt that there is a good movie somewhere in this movie that was clearly not allowed by the studio
That seems to be the case with more and more movies now.
That's so RoboCop. A corporation slowly ruining everything and thinking they're doing a great job
@@BR-jw7pmsuch a dumb studio take (as always with big studios lol)
"Let's take one of the most gritty and brutal and ludicrously bloody and violent dystopian R-rated films, and remove the violence!"
And then they have a confused panda face when the movie failed...God I hate movie studios
@@IloveGorgeousGeorge I walked out of the theater, collecting my thoughts on this movie before quickly coming to the same conclusion as OP, then realizing "Oh crap they Robocop'd the Robocop reboot how meta is that?". It really is a good movie that got blown up, then pieced together into what a corporate entity thought would hit target demographics and make them the most money.
All this movie needed was a higher rating in my opinion
The “there’s nothing left” scene was without question the one scene that this whole movie should’ve been as good as. That was genuinely emotional and horrific. I FELT the empty sickness he would have felt in his phantom stomach.
Didn't make sense to take everything though
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@@MarvNARK what
Fully agree Joel did an amazing job acting their
I don't know of another scene in any movie I felt so weird.
Man, if you were 13 and had never seen a Robocop before, this was a pretty not terrible Robocop that then made me want to watch the original movie
I like this flick. Is it the original? No. But if it was simply a cheesy remake of the original, I'd probably hate it. Because there was never any need for a complete redo of an already beloved movie.
I'm like that with most reboots, I see it, think it was pretty good and then see people saying that the original is better, then I watch the original and agree with them lmao
This is exactly how it went for me
Me too
I actually really like the Robocop reboot.
It was more psychological horrorific and had more philosophical aspects than the original wich I appreciated.
And considering how high the bar was set from the original I think they delivered probably as good as you can do without just copy and pasting the original.
As a teenager that hadnt watched the originals, i loved the total recall and robocop reboots when i was in high school. But when i actually watched the originals i was blown away by how much better they were
They don’t make em like they used to 😢
I still love both the remakes and the originals for exactly what they are. I'm glad you got to watch the remakes first, so you could really appreciate them, before moving on to see the wilder original ones.
Perfectly described being an uncutured teenager in a nutshell.
@@N313GrayFox😂
Those remakes are ass.
I love how James keeps kicking the hornets nest of Ghostbusters fans for no reason
a lot of people think ghostbusters 2 is bad, I was surprised to find this out a handful of years ago as I love GB2
I'd say gb2 was my favourite up until afterlife came along. Gb2 Still ranks highly for me though. And despite vastly disagreing with james' comments on the franchise they are still the Boyz so I'm willing to let it slide 😉
I'd argue the fact that you love and I love it too is the reason really lol
The reason is because its hilarious
It's his almost wholesome way of doing that "TH-camrs need drama for engagement" thing. Like a very select few GB nerds will chime in when the algorithm says so, they'll get triggered, leave a dumb misspelled comment, and we get an eventual h8 mail segment.
It's win win all around.
also on my own by bobby brown is way better than whatever theme song GB1 had, hell, I can't even remember how that one goes lol
The fact that the studio had 30 years of hindsight to realise a PG13 Robocop would flop fits very well into the themes of the movie if you ask me.
It didn’t fail because it’s pg13
Yea, Robocop 3
@@Type75Advance The ultra violence in the first two were meant as a satire of over the top American action movies and by sanitizing the violence you remove a noticeable section of it.
Original recipe 'RoboCop' was a near-perfect movie that worked on a bunch of different levels, so this remake had an uphill battle from the start. Having said that, I think all involved took a pretty good crack at it, in terms of casting, the themes it tackled and in the way it differentiated itself from the original (this time, Murphy is clearly a living person trapped inside a robot body he doesn't always have full control over, whereas in the original it was kind of hinted at that RoboCop might just be a machine that mistakenly started to think it was a man because of some leftover memories in its organic components, which were harvested from the body of a dead policeman ... hence its original working title, 'Blue Harvest'). There's a lot to like about this remake, but it was never going to live up to the original.
Well done
Bloody good job old bean
You had me at the end.
Agreed. Like, if they had just made the cinematography a tiny bit grittier… boom.
God damned it
People never seem to realise that many great movies are great precisely because they are of their time and when you watch them they bring that context in with them.
That was the one thing I think this movie almost got right: contrasting the War on Terror international military occupation "policing" with policing economically-depressed crime-ridden Detroit. It just maybe didn't go quite far enough to actually SAY something interesting about "urban pacification."
If there are people that need to realize stuff it needs to be studio heads. Every time a movie like this flops they go to the director and the vast majority of replies is studio interference.
It like team owners calling football plays. They don't know what they are doing just let go of control and let the director direct.
@@Chasmodius spot on. It makes RC14 almost heartbreaking to watch. If it had the bite of the original, it sincerely could have been The Movie of the 2010s, but it's toothless
I guess a real test of a movie, then, is when people from different generations continue to appreciate it. Sometimes because of how it just nails the time.
Yup. The satire is highly specific to the 80’s and the start of neoliberalism. Using the war on terror as a modern substitute doesn’t work imo
The VFX were really good, that's what I remember most from this one.
😊original movie was better but the cgi effects were good though
They were not
If you're looking for another "man struggles with being a robot" kind of movie, 2018's Upgrade is fantastic. Would 100% recommend
A better version of Venom.
@@anubusx I thought that was 2020 Sputnik?
They already an entire episode dedicated to Upgrade, James even interviewed Leigh Whannell
@@SaulGMV dang, they really did
Pretty solid remake for most of it. Good contrast to the original is that, in this version, OCP didn't just erase Murphy's humanity straight away, but gradually made him more robotty as they "improved" their product.
Great point. It makes it more bleak and compelling. Solid idea.
They could’ve named it robot cop and would’ve been equally bad.
How can you say it’s solid when not even the suit resembles the identity of him?
It’s another Hollywood black suit.
How is this pointless movie with nothing to say and a refusal to present an obvious valid counterargument to not wanting killbots that humans can't defend against a pretty solid remake?
For that matter how and why would a cyborg cop lead people to wanting killbots?
I loved the movie. I thought the acting was just great and Joel Kinnaman was superb.
For all the movie's faults, yeah. That reveal as parts keep pulling away is masterful. It's so damn traumatic. Shame about the rest.
What shame? the rest is pretty solid too, satire is still there, adopted to contemporary world, emotions are there, action is solid but not too fantastical, great actors. It would never beat the original. but idiots like the author of this video just went overboard with it
The concept artists working on the film were told to make a much bleaker, darker look for the eponoymous Robot Cop - this meant losing a lot of the azure hue of the original suit. Hence, the concept team's working title for this task was "Blue Harvest."
THAT'S THE WORKING TITLE FOR STAR WARS!!!
Joe Kinnamon is a good actor. He proved it in Altered Carbon. He's a badass in that show. Season 1 is peak hardcore sci-fi
Unfortunate that the second season was so... blah.
Yeah I reckon, I've watched season 1 a few times now actually, can't say there are many series that are rewatchable
i can't stand him in anything he's in.
100% on point on the suit. Couldn't agree more.
"A builder's phone case" 😂
Yep. In black it just look like a rubber wetsuit.
The black suit looks like it would be the evil robocop that regular robocop would have to fight at the end
@@regalia8717😂😂
It's exactly how I feel about basically every movie Batsuit absolutely refusing to use blue. Grey and blue and yellow looks so much better than black and maybe some grey, sometimes, with just a teensy drop of yellow. No good.
I feel if there wasn’t the original, if this had been the first Robocop movie ever, it would have done better. It’s not a bad movie. The cast is great. The effects are way better than what we’re getting today. There was potential here.
They honestly could've continued the movie with this.
Robert Cop Returns, Again: The Movie
Bobby Bobby is Back: The Movie
I'm waiting for RoboCop Returns, Again: The Movie: The Video Game Novelization.
Rooboocoop too
A fellow Blankie 😊
IN COLOR
I'm only realizing now how funny it is that that huge car explosion somehow spared Murphy's face entirely, because based on his orientation to the car you'd think that would have been the first thing to go
I think his face is synthetic
@@Emperorhirohito19272 They made this to honor him....?
"tradesmen in Australia love little strawberry milks" LMFAO
Same in NZ, I'd never given it a second thought until recently. I guess it does sound a bit odd
Still wished they leaned into the body horror aspect more, that one scene was damn chilling and surprised me by how unerved I felt.
That scene is where I think they one upped on the original. It really is some legit body horror that makes you question at what point are you still a human man if you start stripping away body parts and replacing them with robotics. Maybe it's almost too real for people to think about in comparison to the blood bath killings of the orginal but damn does it leave an impact seeing that.
@@jessecortez9449 The most haunting part is when they return to that shot at the end of the movie, and he's no longer panicking. He's just accepted his new condition as a head with plastic-coated lungs. Absolutely terrified me back in the day. But, it's probably the one moment in the movie I actually remembered.
You also don't expect it here because his face and helmet look very "human". His eyes aren't covered. His skin tone looks healthy. He just looks like a guy in a motorcycle helmet. When Alex Murphy took off his visor in the original he looked ghastly. His skin was stretched taut across a hardware armature and fixed with bolts and wires. It was obvious from day one that he was a robot with a bit of flesh grafted on. I really can't blame Remake Robo for thinking he was in a suit.
@lisah-p8474 The original dealt really well with the "just a brain and some organs" idea without really showing it and leaving it to the imagination with the "build" scene from his perspective.
Robocop himself even mentions how his face is "Made to honour him" and very likely a prostethic as well. (Not sure if that was in RC2 or RC1 right now) (edited for a small correction)
@@Virtualblueart
Murphy's realization scene was very well done in both movies
I am once again requesting your support in getting them to release the fifth element caravan of garbage!!
Yeah, I'd like that. There is a lot of material to be funny about. Good/bad/good-but-also-bad movies are The Way.
Yes
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Corbin Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Agreed
@@CompleteNewbie Only if they love it as much as I and every free thinking intelligent person does.
Imagine if in Iron Man 1, Tony spends the entire film in the silver MK.2 suit, and they have the scene where he considers putting it in its iconic red and yellow colors only for him to go "Nah, that's stupid"
That's how I feel about the suit in this movie.
More like if they took Extremis, and instead of setting it up into a Superior Iron Man-style hijacking reveal spanning the next several Avengers movies that culminates in Civil War, they just gave it to Pepper and then didn't even let her be a superhero.
I hurt about as much on IM3 as I do with the suit colors of 2014, which probably means I care too much about the Robocop suit colors
Iron Man if it was directed by Bryan Singer
Watching Iron Man as a child with no knowledge of comics, I was disappointed when he painted the suit as I thought the colours looked ugly and the original sleek silver was much nicer. Even with vastly improved comics knowledge I still stand by that, tbh.
@ellaisplotting Eh, I think the red and yellow works for his character, especially in that first film. Tony is a narcissist to a fault. He wants to be seen, so of course, when he creates this super mech suit, he's gonna put it in the gaudiest colors imaginable.
The fact this movie takes place 5 years in the future makes me feel old
We're only **four** years away from having Adam Jensen style stabby arms and retractable sunglasses. You never asked for this but between him and Murphy we're headed for a cyborg future.
@@TheSchaef47
Hooray, unequal distributing of robot arms
@@SWProductions100 as long as I get mine, amirite?
Remembering watching the original with my dad makes me feel old
I've liked Kinnaman in just about every role he's been in since The Killing.
I’ve been with you guys for a few years now and this is seriously the first time I’ve been in a group waiting on a video to premiere. I didn’t even know y’all did this!
Having not watched the video: I just realized that not having Robocop’s face horribly fused to the surrounding casing really takes away from the visceral nature of his hellish existence.
Yeah, I see what they were going for with the exposed brain in the glass shell, but it's not as nightmarish as the stretched skin.
@@hollandscottthomasExcept that's not his real face. It's synthetic.
@@skepticalbadgeryep! "Get rid of the arm, full body prosthesis!"
They synthesized a dead man's face in the original and stretched it over a robot to sell, because it was the 80s, and Bob Morton needed more coke and hooker money.
Much more unsettling than a brain enclosure.
Basil Poledouris' score for RobotCop is great, but his score for Conan The Barbarian was absolutely sweeping, best score ever
100%. No excuse for not using the Robocop theme. That goes for Robocop 2 as well.
"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this: Conan! Destined to bear the jewelled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!"
*DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH*
@@KeithFraser82
The terrible Aku!!!
I described CTB as film you could watch with no dialogue. Just the visuals and the music is enough to tell a story.
No love for No Man's Land?
I like when Maso does a local joke so that i can chuckle and pretend i understand it.
The suit looks so cool with the original colors!
Not going to lie, I have a soft spot for this one. Completely different vibe from the original -- that scene where they show him what's left of his body was actually amazing.
I went to see the remake because of Jose Padilha
He directed the Brazillian movie ELITE SQUAD, which is a very influential movie in my country
And with all things considered, I think he did a really good job as a director in the remake
I really liked his style. I just wish it was R-Rated
Even the director wanted that way, and tried to convince the studio of that
❤original movie was better
In the original robocop you only hear the robocop theme twice! And both times its completely earned and comes in with thunderous excitement
never ending icecream cone from his thigh would totally be a OCP idea to reach out the kid market product approvals scheme
I forget there was a silver suit in this movie. You’re absolutely spot on about the suit, so unbelievably spot on.
I'm sad he never said "dead or alive, I'll be back, come with me if you want to creep"
Robocop Rogue City is rough around the edges, but it's fun shooter with a ton of fan service. It's definitely worth checking out.
Gary Oldman is one of the greatest actors of our generation.
Also: THE SKY IS BLUE
And 13 days younger than Gary Numan.
I originally didn't give this movie a chance because I don't think they should be remaking classics and I expected it to just be a lame updated action movie with bad CGI.
But eventually I ended up borrowing a Blue Ray copy off a friend and honestly, it was a far better film than I’d anticipated with a much more nuanced story. Yes, it had better special effects, but it wasn't all CGI action, and what CGI there was was extremely well done, especially the scene where they strip away all his parts to reveal that the only organs they’d harvested were his lungs and hand.
This was probably why the original title was initially going to be Blue Harvest which coincidentally was also the working title for the 1977 film Star Wars.
As someone that grew up loving robocop i found the reboot to be fun. Its not a great movie, but as just a fun action movie with some nostalgia elements i liked it!
James had me in tears when he said, "Yeah... he beats up a bemulleted Hugh Jackman!"
That's a sentence I never thought I'd hear but now one that I can't live without 😅
Crazy that they were able to get Lawrence Fishburne for this Robocop film.
It was actually Morgan Freeman. That’s a common mistake people make.
People mistaken Sam Jackson for Laurence Fishburne.
Wait, that wasn't Denzel Washington?
@@anubusx Most people know Samuel L Jackson from The Matrix.
@@goatwarrior3570
And from Se7en.
"Awwww c'mon mate" is my favourite part of any MSM video with Maso
Robocop flying with Jesus, pteradatyl-style, is the funniest thing I've seen in a while!
Is 8:38 in the movie? For a brief second you see a guy in a red body warmer then a guy passes the camera and he is in full suit.
You can't duplicate a Paul Verhoven film but this was a solid movie. Underrated because of its legacy.
1987 version is better 😊
@@mikesilva3868isn’t that what he said though ? The 87 film is better but this one is underrated due to that fact
This movie was poop. If it didn't jump on the Robocop name we wouldn't be talking about it.
@@Dan_Capone people talk about lots of random sci fi movies lol...
@@Dan_Caponewrong
It's interesting to note that the original Robocop was also meant to fast and nimble like this one in the remake. But because the suit was bulky and heavy, Peter Weller and his mime coach had to quickly change his movements into more slower movements like what we ended up seeing in the original.
I watched this for the first time the other day. I thought the prototype suit was really cool until they painted it black. Also that scene where they first reveal what is left of him is fantastic.
I really felt like the soul of the original movie was killed by corporate tinkering in the remake. Not that the actors did a bad job, or the outfit designers, or the CGI engineers. It's just so soulless, safe, and doesn't point enough fingers at corporate greed and shortcomings.
Yes, FUCK ALL!!! There are even some MORONS out there, who actually prefer the remake all just because they think it had better CGI and visual effects... 🤨
Like SERIOUSLY???
That would be like sayin' Metropolis (1927) should've been custom-tailored to appeal more towards audiences from 2027.
These hopeless morons seem to think that the whole entire 'Robocop' franchise should've been based on the remake, or whatever time period/era that THEY came from!
I just wonder, who came up with that kinda ASS-BACKWARDS way of thinking? 🤔
Looking like a shock proof iPhone case killed me 😂
Robocop riding Jesus was absolutely brilliant editing. Well done!
The single greatest scene in this movie is when they pull away all the parts and you see how much is actually left of Murphy. That was genuinely shocking.
Robocop 2014 has the major issue where the whole time you are thinking, "Man, I would love to be watching the OG Robocop right now."
I've waited for this my entire life, I was not disappointed.
His face looked stupid in the suit / helmet thing. Original Robocop Paul Veroven was very aware that the teeth and jaw had to be perfect to make it look cool.
The scene showing he's just a face with a sack of organs has always stuck with me. The orginal had a blood bath of killing but that scene just hits different because it makes you think about at what point are you still your human self if pieces of you are stripped away and replaced with robotics. Maybe it's a little too real for most people in comparison to the original with bloody killings, a guy getting his dick shot off and a guy getting wrecked by toxic waste.
Hey guys, I know this video is over a year old but, when you included footage of the Boston Dynamics robots, the editor put in the spoof video by Corridor Digital.
‘He is a robot, he is a copppppp, he is a robocopppppppp’
25 movies that should never be touched (remade) in no particular order
1. Star wars E1-6
2. Jaws
3. A nightmare on Elm Street *
4. Schindler's List
5. Any 1980's Indiana Jones movie
6. Forest Gump
7. Gremlins
8. The Green Mile
9. Ghostbusters*
10. Apollo 13
11. Robocop*
12. Shaw Shank Redemption
13. Alien
14. Aliens
16. E.T.
17. The never ending story
18. The Wizard of Oz *
19. The Return of the Living Dead
20. Pulp Fiction
21. Mad Max
22. Predator
23. Terminator
24. Pumkin Head
25. Saving Private Ryan
* movies with * are ones that some jack off did make a remake to (and i don't care that they called ghostsbusters 2016 a reboot , that shit was a remake not a reboot)
EDIT : 26. Total Recall *
EDit 2: i can get over Optimus prime being a different truck .. what i couldn't get over , was bumble bee not being a VW bug , and talking lmore like wreckgar than like bumble bee.
That Jeff Jarrett reference is funny as Robocop has a wrestling connection with Sting
Nah. This is what "update for modern audiences" should mean. It makes sense enough, and it poses a lot of good questions about what we are as humans and biological computers. Do we react, and then invent a reason why we acted? Are we in control, or are we simply pretending? Is it partial or total?
Yea. It is a good movie, and everyone should think it is.
Except the black suit. That was a face-slap moment.
Tbf, I think him being black and looking generic kinda fits. He was designed by a soulless corporation, and that seems like something they'd do
The remake is a solid movie on it's own terms. It has more on its mind than many other tentpoles we get today.
I also think it's a bit unfair to hold it up against it's powerhouse classic progenitor, because it was never the intention to emulate Verhoeven's film, not in style nor tone. The remake is not a comic book or a satirical romp. It's more Robocop by way of Black Mirror. It's focus is on the science of the fiction and the inhumanity behind it that clashes with the heart and human spirit of man.
I get that it was hampered by studio meddling, but Pedilha imo still pulled off a worthwhile film that stands on its own. No need to find Verhoeven's film inside a remake that wasn't trying to be that.
I'm actually legitimately excited for the new game. Same studio as Terminator Resistance which was just a perfect little AA scale game.
they ramp up prize for game . but iam pretty sure treyon done decent game . looks so far better then any robocop game since robocop vs terminator hope they improve gameplay loop , i dont liked scripted sequences in resistance but sneaking around terminators with flametrower was realy fun
The fact Peter Wellers voice essentially never changed is impressive
That's why they used his voice again in Robocop: Rogue City...
If even a mere videogame could be a strong indicator of ANYTHING, then it would remind us of WHY it is so hella damn important to always stick with the source material.
There are even some MORONS out there, who actually prefer the remake all just because they think it had better CGI and visual effects... 🤨
Like SERIOUSLY???
That would be like sayin' Metropolis (1927) should've been custom-tailored to appeal more towards audiences from 2027.
These hopeless morons seem to think that the whole entire 'Robocop' franchise should've been based on the remake, or whatever time period/era that THEY came from!
I just wonder, who came up with that kinda ASS-BACKWARDS way of thinking? 🤔
Hard R rated reboot with Karl Urban ala Dredd. He has the jaw line, the deadpan tone and all. Still need a Dredd sequel.
No, we don't need a Dredd Sequel.
@JustinMcVicar Yes we do ma’am
@@wilcee238 Excuse me? It is 'MAN'!
A really disappointing thing about the production of this movie is that director José Padilha originally wanted the working title of the movie to be "Blue Harvest," but the studio shot shot him down and made it "Black Yield."
This film absolutely did not have to be a RoboCop remake. Could have been its own thing and probably would have been better off for it.
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Peter Weller about remakes. Robocop is on that list.
Can’t believe you guys have reviewed every film. What will you do now?
Working in a clip from the late 2000’s teen comedy 17 Again is top tier editing, hats off!
Gary Oldman could play every character in a movie about his life
I really hated that they left him with that one hand. It just felt really distracting when viewed with the rest of the suit. Just has "Michael Jackson's white glove" vibes
Caravan of garbage gotta be one of the most majestic caravans on TH-cam
never stop doing these, please.
I actually enjoyed this movie. Not as good as the original. I liked the family relationship of Alex, his wife, and kid that the original skipped over. Plus the ED-209's seemed like something that could exist in the near future because of drones and the combat UAV's the military currently uses.
Wish Robocop 2 had explored his family stuff more than not at all.
Woah...sneaking in some Scott Morrison shade into those last two minutes....
As an Aussie - I approve.
Ironically I think this films downfall is the fact that it’s not terrible or great? It’s the one thing you don’t want for your film: mediocre at best. It instantly relegates this to being forgotten. Plus not only does the black ruin the iconic look of the character but their incessant need to show his full face makes it feel like he’s just a special forces soldier in a suit, not THE iconic film cyborg that Robo-Cop is.
This review is so bang-on for my own feelings when this came out. Not at all a bad movie, moments and seeds of really great ideas that expanded or went in different, interesting directions than the original, but none of which felt fully executed and the humorous satire was sorely missed (though arguably wouldn't work anyway without the over-the-top violence as counter-balance). The PG-13 rating and weird shitting on the OG design were nail in the coffin ideas for sure. It's too bad this movie happened pre-Deadpool, I think this same script now would've been executed much better. Hopefully these new projects follow the lead of Rogue City and don't disappoint.
Can't wait for the final installment of Robot Cop
Like the issue i have it the designs in this film is the problem of misunderstanding the decisions of the original. The points being stated. The ED 209 is a design like the daleks. They're meant to look efficient and cool but actually be ineffective as hell. These are police drones that are fucking huuuge that can't go up fucking stairs.
Holy christ this reboot is almost 10 years old
Blows my mind.
Personally speaking, I was quite surprised to learn that this film was only 9 years old. For some reason I thought this film came out sometime around 2008-2009.
I remember seeing this in theaters with my dad when it came out and the scene where Murphy is shown what is left of his body always stuck with me. I wish the studio actually let them make a movie with that dark tone and R rating.
9:09 A RoboKok if you will
How about a Gary Oldman retrospective? Or any retrospective of an actor, actress, or director you’d want to do a retrospective on? Even a Rodney retrospective would be cool.
I can’t stress enough about these two boys over here at Sunday movies being my saviours when I have no content to cool down after the gym too, fucking heroes mate 🤙🏽
Gary Oldman's filmography is bizarrely amazing. He has one of the widest ranges (the widest?) of any actor his generation. Behold the variety of accents and personas:
Stephen Frears' "Prick Up Your Ears"
Oliver Stone's "JFK"
Tony Scott's "True Romance"
Peter Medak's "Romeo is Bleeding"
Christopher Nolan's "Batman" films
Francis Ford Coppola's horny "Dracula"
David Fincher's "Mank"
Alex Cox's "Sid and Nancy"
the "Harry Potter" films
It goes on and on...Gary Oldman is an actor who _does not_ play versions of himself film-after-film (like too many other film actors.)
And what I particularly love about Oldman is he is not matinee-idol handsome. He is a perfect example of an actor who succeeds not because he's pretty, but because he's insanely gifted.
Missed opportunity not calling it RebootCop.
Slight tangent on the Assassin's Creed movie as a huge fun of the games: such a missed opportunity. I know that the modern day storyline with Abstergo is also a part of the games, but the reason you play an AC title is to parkour through old cities and meet historical figures, and the movie had to dedicate so much time to setting up the Abstergo stuff at the expense of seeing an Assassin story during the Spanish Inquisition. By the movie had come out, even the games had started deemphasizing the modern storylines (it's still there, but you can usually ignore it), and I think that a better way to set it up may have been to start the movie with like a corporate play testing of the new Abstergo AC game (which they started having be an in-game thing around AC III Liberation I believe), and then have some hackers get into the system and take the protagonist into the un-sanitized version of their ancestor's journey. Saying it out loud, I'm realizing how could kind of be a Robocop-esque commentary on the way history is often rewritten or suppressed by big institutions to justify their own power...plus parkour and Ben Franklin.
Also, I do believe if you CAN separate this from the original, this is a very good movie
For sure.
Isn’t that the biggest issue though? The studio NOT wanting to separate it and insisting on callbacks to the original?
So much relying on making sure that the audience knew for a fact without a shadow of a doubt that it was a remake of the original.
Robocop Returns has been cancelled! You didn't mention that, and now people think it will be made, when it won't!
Watching this movie, I feel like the director was trying to make a statement about how hollywood reanimates franchises and they’re so far removed from themselves. I can’t explain it but, but there’s an odd air about it that feels intentional, like the director is trying to sneak it past the producers but it doesn’t quite translate.
the ghostbusters bit at the end is why i love this channel
I think this is a really good and underrated remake, the climax feels a bit to “video game cut scene”, and Michael Keaton‘s villain turn doesn’t make much sense, but I like what they explored with Robocop‘s family (that felt different and fresh), it has a great cast & performances, and all the stuff with prosthetic and Murphy seeing what’s left with his body was very scary, tragic, and interesting at the same time.
😢disagree the original movie was better I hate generation z so much how many times must I say the original movie was better how many
@@mikesilva3868looks like you've already said it a whole bunch of times. Maybe take a break.
@@mikesilva3868we get it. People disagree with your opinion as well. It doesn't and can't anything away from the original film.
@@mikesilva3868 I agree the original can not be topped, but as its own thing, I enjoy the new one, but to each their own
I loved how this movie did something different with loss of identity. OG Robocop starts out thinking he's definitely Robocop and slowly realizes he's Murphy, more or less. I liked this focusing on Murphy realizing that he's not actually entirely Murphy anymore, he's a composite being with Murphy's memories. They could have done more with it, but I was happy to see them working in the speculative fiction side of sci-fi.
I hope Abe Forsythe gets to direct the next movie
He made DOWN UNDER (2016) and LITTLE MONSTERS
He knows how to make movies that are chaotic and funny
I just came here to increase your engagement by expressing my absolute outrage at anyone saying literally anything about any Ghostbusters film. How dare you, sir?! They're all flawless, for all I know!
This robot cop is the George Clooney's Batman of robocop.
Peter Weller promoting the remake of Star Trek II, railing against remakes, is peak tone deafness.