Failed to mention that Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is no longer even a canonical Joker thanks to the ending. All those discussion of "Who did the best Joker: Ledger, Phoenix, Hamill, or Nicholson," yeah, Arthur Fleck is no longer a contender because he never was a Joker in the first place. (and this is not up for debate since the director himself came out and said Arthur was never the real Joker) Completely invalidates everything about the first film.
Just because he decided to to no longer be Joker doesn’t mean he wasn’t ever a Joker. Is Christian Bale’s Bruce Wayne not Batman because he decided to stop being Batman at the end of his trilogy?
@@AnotherNickMovies Poor example. Arthur Fleck never entered his Joker arc. They reverted him back to being a victim instead of making him the villain.
Bale wasn’t replaced like Phoenix. Bale chose to end his acts of heroism, because the conditions of Gotham and his life insured that he completed his work. Meanwhile, D.C. just decided to redcon Phoenix by saying that everything we know of the Joker and the Batman wasn’t the responsibility of Phoenix.
I didn’t mind them attempting to make it a musical. But the script lacks any sense of structure, and undoes much of the original. The cinematography and acting are great but can’t elevate the train wreck of a script.
I believe both films are great in their own respective ways. Both films have that old Hollywood engery to them which isn't surprising because Martin Scorsese's influence especially for the first movie. Great musical scores, top notch acting, beat cinematography, and a great director. The story for people is divisive and won't work for most people.
Joker 2 is just as bad as the DCEU just flat out boring and didn't need to exist. Luckily we have Superman & Lois and The Penguin. Those shows are carrying the superhero genre right now.
people who say she ruined the movie either have an issue with her character or the story of the film, neither of which are he fault. half her scenes got cut, and people are mad at her for it. sad.
Haven't seen it yet, but to answer your question since you asked. In another universe where Joker does not exist, Joker: Folie a Deux is infinitely better.
Most misunderstood movie of the year. Of course the most vocal critics can only throw empty phrases like "woke trash" at it. It's a good indicator of the thoughtful critics or people who can only read movies on a surface level.
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0:35 the betterhelp thing is true 😂
I kinda still liked the second one
Failed to mention that Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is no longer even a canonical Joker thanks to the ending. All those discussion of "Who did the best Joker: Ledger, Phoenix, Hamill, or Nicholson," yeah, Arthur Fleck is no longer a contender because he never was a Joker in the first place. (and this is not up for debate since the director himself came out and said Arthur was never the real Joker)
Completely invalidates everything about the first film.
Just because he decided to to no longer be Joker doesn’t mean he wasn’t ever a Joker. Is Christian Bale’s Bruce Wayne not Batman because he decided to stop being Batman at the end of his trilogy?
@@AnotherNickMovies Poor example. Arthur Fleck never entered his Joker arc. They reverted him back to being a victim instead of making him the villain.
invalidating everything is a crazy statement considering the message of the original is only amplified by events in the sequel.
Bale wasn’t replaced like Phoenix. Bale chose to end his acts of heroism, because the conditions of Gotham and his life insured that he completed his work. Meanwhile, D.C. just decided to redcon Phoenix by saying that everything we know of the Joker and the Batman wasn’t the responsibility of Phoenix.
@@DoNotKnow771the ending to rises was Robin Blake takes over, you moron hahahahahah
Now that’s funny
Joker 9/10
Joker 2 5/10
Joker 9/10
Joker 2 7/10
Joker two pack 8/10
Directors commentary for joker 1
10/10 NOW
Ngl this joker would work perfectly in the matt reeves 2022 batman universe
No. No, it is not. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong
I didn’t mind them attempting to make it a musical. But the script lacks any sense of structure, and undoes much of the original. The cinematography and acting are great but can’t elevate the train wreck of a script.
I believe both films are great in their own respective ways. Both films have that old Hollywood engery to them which isn't surprising because Martin Scorsese's influence especially for the first movie.
Great musical scores, top notch acting, beat cinematography, and a great director. The story for people is divisive and won't work for most people.
Both are on par and both masterpieces for me!
ABSOLUTELY!
I’ve gotta say, when I saw Folie a Deux I hated but or review kinda made it a little better 👍
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Nope
I haven't seen the new one yet. But if the new one is a music its probably trash and will never beat the first one, witch is a master piece.
yea nobody gaf about a joker musical.
Musical scenes are good
Yo when's the
Tier List of all the Harry Potter movies?
They had the chance of making the movie of the year but they messed up by making it a musical
The sequel is just a trash musical
Nah
What do you mean now
@@AnotherNickMovies Nick joker 2 is nothing compared to the original
So god damn true I went to go see if my dad and we both equally agreed that it was the worst movie of the year.
@@Rockstar_Bonnie_Gaming frfr it would be good if it WASNT a musical.
Yes it is
Joker 2 is just as bad as the DCEU just flat out boring and didn't need to exist. Luckily we have Superman & Lois and The Penguin. Those shows are carrying the superhero genre right now.
I agree everything about marvel sucks rn
No.
Nostalgia blinds other people but nick
I thought this summarized exactly what I thought about it, I just have a little more sympathy for the sequel.
This is the least evil joker
Why lady gaga, why?
Probably because she’s an Oscar nominated actress.
people who say she ruined the movie either have an issue with her character or the story of the film, neither of which are he fault. half her scenes got cut, and people are mad at her for it. sad.
Haven't seen it yet, but to answer your question since you asked. In another universe where Joker does not exist, Joker: Folie a Deux is infinitely better.
yeah no
6.5 is too high
This movie didn't doesn't have anything even resembling something good outside of the performances
HEy
Hello
HG
Me personally I think a musical is trash
No
Most misunderstood movie of the year. Of course the most vocal critics can only throw empty phrases like "woke trash" at it. It's a good indicator of the thoughtful critics or people who can only read movies on a surface level.
I wasted my money on this trash
Jesus loves you and he is the only way. Follow him and accept him in your heart as Lord and Savior, he is our Lord and Savior. He is coming soon so be prepared, do his fathers will, have faith in him, repent truly and keep his commandments also read the Bible and pray. I tell you this so you be encouraged and be warned. He loves you so much that he sent his only son to die on the cross for you. Repent. Jesus loves you❤️🙏😇✝️
What does this have to do the joker