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I do not get it. The sand has footprints and tire tracks? Where is downgrade?
@@user-rb5fw4ey2w The tire tracks are the downgrade. They are completely misplaced in Infinite and it looks buggy.
@@kyokusagani8869 ah, I see. Well, deez nutz are misplaced and buggy. (Just kidding) but seriously, that is interesting.
343 games have always lacked a layer of detail or two. 343 has never gotten the explosions, water or foliage physics right either. Like I said it's the little things like attention to detail that make a game iconic.
Bungie cared a lot about the small details. That's what made the games feel immersive and gave them so much soul.
You got it
But they ruined the assault rifle and the pistol in halo 3 lol
@@decriper1097 I disagree, both had great designs, I didn't care for dual wielding. Well the audio for the AR was a bit of a joke
@@Uriel.47AC cmon bruh, halo 3 is absolutely fantastic but the magnum was mega neutered lol
@@rreprah9515 hell yeah, I loved H3 and yes the magnum was awful, not even good when dual wielding, lol
*Drives one cm in Infinite*
The tire tracks: ⬅️↙️↙️↖️↙️➡️↘️↗️
😂😂😂
I had absolutely no idea they were that bad when I first played the game
➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️➡️hs
Infinite reminds me of a mobile game, campaign was Ight though no coop on launch made it one of the worst halos imo
What really makes that sting is the fact they explicitly promised that split screen co-op would be present on launch. Then that it would be added at a later date. Then that it would not be added at all. Not like it's a staple of the series or anything..@@Grobblemite
It’s actually nuts how halo 3 is 16 years old yet still smacks new games out the park with how it looks and runs
stop your making me feel old
Yeah right white boy
@@norvinosorio22 Lmfao what
@@norvinosorio22 back to your NBA/Madden containment plz
@@sirisaacthestraight I also almost busted out laughing tryna figure out why he replied liked that lol
A massive downgrade. I miss the old landscape effects. This and the snow effects were great in Halo 3.
It’s a wonder that games can be so bad despite having an army of people behind it and so much money
It’d be for performance reasons given the new game is free to play and so needs to scale to lower end machines
@@Majorwindy won’t even let me play it on my pc. Too lo end. Plays master chief collection on all normal settings at 1080 though
@@jonathanz.9675 Dang didn't know tiny little details you don't even notice while actually playing the game like a normal human being instantly makes it "so bad". Guess I'll change my review, take out all the pros and just copy and paste that in and give it a half a star.
Thanks 🙏
Idiot, lol.
I miss having more than one landscape in the campaign and it coming with a microtransaction free mp
Halo 3 sand also had sound effect sweeteners. You have to listen very closely but you can hear the sand falling back down after it has been kicked up.
Marty's attention to detail was incredible.
@@kiwidan2271 Marty?
@@robtennant98 Marty O'Donnell. The main composer and audio director for Halo 3.
@@kiwidan2271 I thought he only did the music
You can hear the same on CE. The dirt falling down and making noises on the ground.
Halo 3 is really timeless
Damn near perfection
The first Halo trilogy is timeless 💚💚💚
@@alexmorpheus6762yeah literally. Even if halo ce graphics have aged they still hold a charm. I love the halo 2 Anni graphics but the sound design wasn't as good as classic halo 2s sounds imo
And LFD 1-2, MW2, Halo 3-ODST, Battlefield Bad a company 2 and 3! Gears of war 2 and 3! Modded Xbox Lobbies and other classics it was such a great time in gaming and the memories dude I will never ever forget those times. Real ones remember The Tech Game forums
It's the same with the water physics in H3 and Infinite.
There is a fair bit of water in the Infinite campaign but they made sure you can never quite go underwater, I guess they didn't want to manage the screen effects? The kind of corners they cut in infinite would be laughable if it wasn't sad honestly
@@onelongwordable ragdolls in halo 3 float in the water and go with the stream. Halo infinite has nothing like it.
@@Redspark77 to be fair the mjolnir armor is the weight of a damn warthog. I doubt a river could realistically carry it around like a floaty.
@@REALMARCHINADER Yeah, the armor of Spartan hare heavy as
@@REALMARCHINADERdon't add lore to gameplay..
This is just AAA gaming as a whole sadly. Still doesn’t excuse halo infinite and 343.
@Jeffrey dahmer vs Ted bundy ahhhh a man with intelligence i love single player games multi games are overrated good example cod
@Jeffrey dahmer vs Ted bundy Honestly there's a lot of good games that came out over the years and unless you didn't have a job or school there's no way you would've been able to play them all as they came out. Even now I'd rather check out old games that had a good reputation than buy the nu slop that is released nowadays.
Elden ring and God of war???
@Jeffrey dahmer vs Ted bundy Me too. I stay in the old days before developers started treating single player like a tutorial for multiplayer.
@Jeffrey dahmer vs Ted bundy don't fucking diss muffin man
I like the halo 3 explosion effects , plasma decal marks on walls better then the newer games
Bruh even halo reach had good decals, and halo 4 , even 5 was pretty good
@@Tbaggrrr reach was good game.
@@misterbanshee7992 Reach is the best Halo fight me
Plus they have blood in the games.
@@ItsOlDino Which is funny because rating can't be the excuse for the worse decal system. Even if they're hellbent on keeping it T there are a million non gory ways to show damage to player armor to make weapons feel more impactful.
I wasn't thinking too much of it, but the way the tire tracks were left behind the warthog makes me believe that there has to be some sort of bug going on here.
you know what detail hasn’t been a halo game since CE? The Assault Rifle, Sniper Rifle & Shotgun i believe, you can see their bolts/actions cycle in 3rd person as it fires & ejects rounds. the best gun for this is the AR though as when You or Marines fire, the bolt goes to the rear as the rounds eject which is an amazing detail i’ve only seen in CE of All Halos
Not even Anniversary has the detail!
Halo is a lot like a divorced couple. At first it was two happy parents (Microsoft and bungie) who loved their child and gave the child everything they could ever dream. One parent gave the child toys and adventures (bungie) while the other funded everything (Microsoft) Then one day, one parent abandoned the family in pursue of a richer partner (bungie to activision). The now alone divorced partner (Microsoft) quickly remarried as an attempt to keep the kid happy because they don’t know how to do it themselves. Only problem is this 2nd parental figure (343i) is some trashy money hungry gold digger who not only pockets the money (Microsoft) gives them to make the kid happy, but also constantly scams the kid to make extra money on the side while (Microsoft) doesn’t really care because now they are making even more money.
"richer partner"
wat
More like Microsoft is money hungry considering they control everything in the shop
Holy shit haha nice
I am just glad I wasnt the only one who noticed this, Reach was still using their techniques (mostly) but once 4 was release I could very much tell those quality pieces were dropped.
Yeah. I felt something was missing from 4 but couldn't really figure out what it was. I was hoping 343 would improve after their first try at making a Halo game. Boy was I wrong.
Reach was a legit leap graphically over 3 , the engine received a huge overhaul whilst retaining the attention to detail/effects of 3. Artistically it was more gritty and less saturated which is down to the individual in terms of preference.
Reach was made by bungie.
Would have never known@@TheRafark
@@yobro6053 To me it was more about the shader system, their is something at least to my eye that seem lesser though I wonder if it is the saturation of color. Does make me wonder now if I can run it with something applying different saturation.
I’ve been trying to tell people how well Halo 3 has aged for a decade. Every year it gets better.
I think lighting is still the games best asset. They definitely didn't slack there.
They had to downgrade the Xbox 360 Halo 3's resolution by quite a lot due to all of the detail added to the game. Meanwhile Halo Infinite 15 years later looks only better just on the graphics side. Everything else is a severe downgrade.
@@_MaZTeR_I think infinite’s textures are really good looking and awesome, but they didn’t implement them well in any of its maps, the campaign was lacking in the lighting department and in variety of scenarios and basically made everyone feel like it looked bad.
@@goyo_heh Halo Infinite's campaign consists of the Halo CE level "Halo" stretched over 6 hours or so, with occasional Forerunner caves plastered here and there and most of the times those too look the exact same.
At least in Halo CE, almost all of the Forerunner cave section levels were unique, aside from Assault on Control Room and Two Betrayals where you're just going back and forth the same level, but even that feels better since the second time around, you're just trying to fight your way through the Covenant and the Flood.
They have the literal Zeta Halo as the setting, which is very significant in the books regarding the time set before and during the Forerunner-Flood war. And there's absolutely 0 mention of the ancient human tribes living on the surface, the Primordial a.k.a THE proto-proto-Gravemind and finally the Palace of Pain and Mendicant Bias who together with the Primordial ran the Palace.
They had 6 years to work on this game and basically wasted most of it, and in actuality they worked on the final build of the game maybe couple of years.
@@_MaZTeR_ yeah it’s pretty sad , the game could have looked and played great if 343 had managed it correctly.
I’m not really knowledgeable in the lore but I do know a lot of stuff could have come into play in this entry and it just didn’t. I mostly just play the games but even the plot of the 343 games has been always like going back and forth with its premises and villains. Basically one big missed opportunity in all the technical and creative areas sadly, would love to see it make a comeback in the future but I’m kind of done with 343 halo. 6 years in the making and it was disappointing.
Always remember, 343 doesn't care about Halo because they didn't earn it, it was given to them without any effort.
And also remember Halo was never good
@@RandomBirblikesrape I like the cut of your jib 😂
Bungie knew how to creatively work within their limitations
No such thing as limitations
Halo was never good
@@RandomBirblikesrape I bet you buy the new call of duty every year, even though its the same exact game
It reminds me of how Dark Souls 1 had a single area with snow, yet they added accurate footsteps and such to the map.
Meanwhile, Skyrim has half of it's overworld map covered in snow... yet they didn't think to add footsteps
"Hey everyone! So, I have great news. 343 has just Tweeted that they're updating the footprints in Halo Infinite. I for one am very excited. We know there have been bumps in the road but 343 has been listening. Please like and subscribe for more Halo news, not content."
- Mint Blitz
THIS UPDATE WILL FIX THE GAME, 343 HAS A W, (click bait ai master chief image)
-HALO FOLLOWER
@@falkonsrt6000 HALO INFINITE IS DEAD 343 WAS FIRED MICROSOFT’S HEADQUARTERS BLEW UP AHHHH
-Sean W
If the lead developer that fixed up MCC is now in charge of Infinite maintenance..
@@OMGtheykilledKenny42 Doesn't matter, nothing can make Infinite a good game, especially when they keep jacking up the store prices. Glad I stuck to MCC and 5 not living in the delusion that Infinite will eventually be on par with either of those, spoiler: It won't.
Tbh this is nothing compared to how hard we got fucked on campaign and story...
Bungie os overrated and his games are ugly
@@343EXTERMINOABUNGIEagree
I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet but in the OG (Halo: R, 1, 2, 3) series the gun on the classic warthog has sway on it when you turn as if it implies the gun is heavy weaponry that can move on its own. In infinite.....no such thing, go ahead and check I already did. I have no idea how 343 missed this.
They missed it cause they don't care
@@kornchip1880 Me at the 343 offices ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
0:42 ok 343 that just looks terrible #fire343
I've noticed a lot of newer games have higher res textures and better graphics, but the visuals and artstyle are nothing more than flat. Halo Reach IMO had the best visuals and artstyle in the franchise. Halo 3 has the most details in any halo game. I have my issues with the bungie halo games and the 343 games, but Halo infinite looks higher resolution in textures and more polygons yeah, but the artstyle and visuals are just not there at all. It looks like every basic unreal engine 4 game or gimmicky project that has very little to offer in visuals other than high resolution, high poly count and ray tracing. It's a complaint I've had with GOD KNOWS how many ubisoft games in the past 8 or so years, it's plaguing games everywhere. Everyone's so obsessed with high graphical fidelity that visuals and artstyle just aren't there.
The assault rifle got a massive upgrade , but the warthog skid textures got a massive downgrade. I'd say this is a 50/50.
In Halo 3 vehicles don't leave track marks
@@MelStaub To be honest, I'd prefer not having track marks to having broken track marks that just break my immersion even further.
@@MelStaub That was still better than the jarring square textures that don't match the vehicle at all, honestly
The textures are good in Infinite but the Reach model of Assault rifle is hideous and I don't know how so many people can like it at all
@@onelongwordable
Yeah that assault rifle model is ass. Much prefer rhe thicc assault rifle from the other games
Okay, so...
Footsteps:
*H3:* Round, for whatever reason? They look like enlarged bullet holes. Maybe that's what they are... Not very sand-looking.
*Infinite:* Lacking depth and doesn't look like sand; but at least it's an actual FOOTprint.
Bullet Impact:
*H3:* Sand looks very coarse, more like gravel. Barely any dust.
*Infinite:* Looks very dusty and sandy, as it's supposed to. However, particles disappear a little too soon, gives the sand slightly less substance. Only noticeable when REALLY paying attention to it.
Grenades:
*H3:* Don't bounce off of sand (more realistic), explosion creates more sand and dust, and leaves a clear stain on the ground; but it looks rather unspectacular.
*Infinite:* Do bounce off of sand, makes sense for gameplay reasons and consistency, but not very realistic. Explosion is a lot more spectacular and fitting to the damage it does. Doesn't create a lot of dust during the explosion, but even more so shortly afterwards - something H3 doesn't do at all.
Warthog:
*H3:* Very little dust, no tire tracks.
*Infinite:* Tires create a lot of dust, as it is fitting for sandy ground. And something's definitely wrong with the video. The tire tracks in Infinite are choppy, yes, but not completely random. They usually even look somewhat good, and unlike in H3; exist!
"A severe downgrade 14 years later" - yeah, no. But alas, as I can see from the comments, if you present the content the right way, people will fall for the misleadings. It may not be an upgrade, but I'll be damned if it ain't at least on par. But hey, putting Infinite in a mildly positive light doesn't bring in any views, eh?
There’s also the fact that there are no legs, the hog has basically no sound, the explosion from the grenade looks like it was added from Microsoft word, the gun on the hog doesn’t sway with the movement, and the fact that the actual graphics look almost exactly the same but with the brightness turned up to 11 even though it’s almost 15 years after h3 and a considerable amount of money was spent on it…
@@crimsonlight4205 Infinite has legs, they just disappear above 78 FOV to avoid clipping. Microsoft word is a writing program, I don't know how that analogy even came to you. I don't think anyone ever complained about "Halo Infinite Warthog gun not swaying", maybe because it's so miniscule noone ever noticed it. Apart from that, as seen in the video, Infinite seems much more saturated that H3, having more contrast and visual clarity.
@@endexe5169 so the game can’t even keep up with itself? That’s honestly worse. And that’s the point… you can add pictures and clips into Microsoft word btw. You missed the whole point and still didn’t know what you were talking about. And it most certainly does have more contrast, because the brightness is turned up as high as they could get it. It honestly almost hurts to look at the environment in the game because all of the colors stick out instead of looking like a natural blend. That’s the problem. All of that wouldn’t even be too bad if it wasn’t such a terrible obvious cash grab of a game. If it was an indie game it would be more than acceptable. But for something that tens of millions of dollars and nearly 6 years of development went into, it’s absolutely unacceptable.
@@crimsonlight4205 Jesus dude, I can hear your hair falling out from all that malding. The only valid point is that yes, they could do a workaround to avoid the clipping, but they simply put their priorities elsewhere.
And still, your Microsoft Word analogy makes barely any sense. I don't know why I need to explain this to you, but you can also add pictures from H3 into Word. Wow! So I guess H3 is straight from Microsoft Word, right? Apart from all that - Infinite's grenade explosions look better, and it shows, because "Microsoft Word" was the only counterargument you could find.
And brightness doesn't inherently bring contrast with it - in fact, it reduces contrast. You're mistaking "brightness" for a wider, more dynamic color range. Because that's what Infinite has. And what the hell do you even mean by "sticking out"? You mean the foliage sticking out of the grass? The rocks out of the ground? the trees out of the forest? So another little fun fact for you: when colors "stick out", as you call it, and everything is not one, big blend of a mild arrangement of colors, it's probably to make objects and depths more distinguishable. I've never heard anyone complain about that, but here you are.
Also, the Multiplayer is free, you can play the campaign over gamepass, and overall, you have to spend a laughably low amount of money to have fun hours upon hours with the game; and if you didn't have fun with it, then that's fine! But others do, and if that's a cashgrab to you, then you should probably lay off whatever you're smoking, and pass it to me, cause goddamn that shit must be hitting.
@@endexe5169bros secretly a 343 dev lmfao. Glazing all over them
343: we tested the impact of grenade physics on specific surface & determined that the readability isn't clear, we'll continue to monitor this closely.
H3 Players: 🙃
Bungie: lets make worst game ever known as Halo
@@RandomBirblikesrape if you’re going to rage bait you have to be more subtle, no one will believe you if you just flat out say halo is the worse game ever
I wouldn't say MASSIVE downgrade. More like stagnation. Both do the same
My same problem with most games coming out. It feels like a block world with a skin over it.
Riders republic really made me feel this way.
This is a brilliant showcase as to why - if you did Halo in the Unreal engine, which has built-in and robust support for these kinds of effects, it would look and feel phenomenal. The sense of place would be powerful. The idea of seeing a room that looks like the "Lobby Scene" from The Matrix, only in Halo? That's incredible to imagine.
Yeah I think Unreal is generally optimized for 1st / 3rd person games. Though I know indie devs have major issues with it making strategy games MMOs etc. Seems like even the best game engines have limitations in genres it wasn't built for.
You gave them crap with the unreal engine in halo 5, so they made a new one, and you’re still complaining
@@randybutternubs5727 I mean, I never did. The Tiger Engine (used in Halo 5) is... okay. I personally think Halo Infinite is great. I wish it retained some of the physics and playfulness of Halo 3 and Reach, but it's great other than that.
Unreal engine is just a very robust engine, with lots of people who know how to use it. It doesn't make sense for a company to build game engines these days, especially if they don't have the same work environment as other engines. It means you can't just hire someone - you have to train literally anyone you hire. So, slows down game development, costs money, it's just overall not a great idea... come to think of it, who complained that Halo shouldn't switch to Unreal who actually understand the industry involved in game development, asset generation, art application, and workflow management? I can't even imagine a casual fan saying, "Please no, I would cry if Halo on the 360 could have looked as pretty as Gears of War."
Unreal does not have built in support for any of these features except footstep sounds.
@@randybutternubs5727 unreal wasnt used for h5
Literally unplayable -100000/10
343 should be ashamed 😔
actually disgusting to see.
cant believe THIS was the future for games
You actually can see your leg model in infinite, but you need to decrease your FOV in the settings to do so. All in all, I'm not sure if I would say this is a "massive downgrade". There are lots of features I'd like out of infinite before they fix any of the issues shown in this video.
Its a downgrade
Unacceptable and lazy for the devs to not have fixed 1st person legs in over 90 fov. Infinite is so terribly unfinished!
@@jackburton307L
This stuff doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it does beg the question: where did all the time, effort and money go? This isn’t just a Halo problem, but applies to many games where games made decades ago vastly surpass the overall quality of newer games. They had less money, less manpower and less time, yet created a far more wholesome game experience.
343: “It’s impossible.”
Microsoft: “Bungie was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!”
@@non1263 i think the majority of the money went into advertisements and the campaign, ive seen more advertisements for infinite than i have maps in the game
i cant believe its been 14 years.. God i miss high school😭i miss the parties the petty drama the teachers, the fights,
after school etc etc
Back then games were about story gameplay and detail. Now games are just how long can we keep scamming our consumers.
They had limited resources so they couldn’t add everything but were able to add more detail to make up for the fact.
Phantom explosions: 📉
Physics: 📉
Netcode: 📉
Playerbase: 📉
Creativity: 📉
Continuity: 📉
Rule of cool: 📉
Scarabs: 0️⃣
Map remakes: 📉
Derpy ass looking brutes: 📈
Greed: 📈
Cliffhangers: 📈
$500 million budget for Halo infinite btw 😂
@Epic Not really what?
More like $5 million
@Epic they pretty much all spent it on the engine, and the engine can't do shot no matter how much money you pour into it if they don't have enough time to work on it.
@@wut-se8hz There was no 500 Million dollar budget, that was a complete rumor started at Infinites pre-launch era it’s never been proven. Same thing with the “6 years development”.
@@juicedbeetlejuice4572 I know the 6 years of development is wrong, because 1. They would've still had been working on h5 and 2. There's prototypes showing they didn't make any major progress till years later. But I do know the budget was confirmed by Microsoft, could it have been a lie? Sure. But at the moment from the looks of it, it seems to be true.
It’s not a downgrade. Master chief learned the ability to deceive his enemy by creating fake footsteps with his mind.
I LOVE when people take their time to point out the little details
THANKS
What do you expect? The people work in game studios probabyl wear a tail to work everyday.
When Halo 3 came out, I was blown away by the graphics!
It still looks good today!
And this game didn't make 720p in 2007. It goes to show that Bungie accomplished so much in the face of crazy circumstances.
Halo 3 just goated
Halo 3 holds up to this day with both visuals and gameplay. It’s crazy, mcc pc halo 3 is fun as hell and I still play it
What’s your GT
I love how you can't even see your tootsies in halo inf but you can in any other bungie halo game
One of the side effects of a new engine is some extra detail stuff like this takes time to get back to that level of detail. Infinite is incredibly detailed on some areas and lacking in others. This is definitely an area where they're lacking. H4 and H5 in comparison didn't really have this issue
its not even new. turns out that was a complete lie
Lmao it’s apparently not even a new engine. But they still blew a few million dollars on something, obviously not the engine.
They used to hire people that cared about making new and exciting game innovations. Now they care about hiring people that match a certain “academic” standard
Who gives a shit?
The sand particles look better in infinite and the weapon audio is better too.
Literally was just testing this a day ago. If you shoot a light bridge it does nothing!
Good God, they were so lazy and missed so much in this game...
@@bigsweetz7106The sound is also fucked :/
dude the sniper bullets don't even ricochet
That’s not Halo 3 (2007) That’s Halo 3 upgraded for the Mcc but it’s clear what you’re saying for a certain point of view. Those details are important
What do you mean by "upgraded" because to my knowledge the only thing different is the resolution. All the textures are exactly the same.
@@holaaamannn Higher resolution, higher FOV, higher FPS, better controls. But other than that, yeah the same.
None of the details shown here have been affected in any way since Halo 3 came to MCC
Halos ruined now guys the sand isn’t as high detail
I was watching the warthog tracks screaming in my head "no, god no please...no no NOOOO!"
I’m a believer that the little details AREN’T everything, not by a long shot.
But when it persistently feels like something is missing on every front, sometimes looking at them can kind of summarize what’s wrong with the bigger picture.
Halo Infinite was several steps in the right direction, but some of those were only because Halo 5 was so lost. I’m glad they at least _eventually_ made the multiplayer into something.
I’d like them to try again. I mean, they kinda got their head halfway outta their holes, now just give another good tug and maybe we can hit as good or better than 4.
(And I understand the camp that some are in that Infinite is better than 4, I just fundamentally disagree with it.)
I mean I wouldn't say a severe downgrade but I completely agree that it should look far better than it does
But a MASSIVE upgrade in overall graphics, terrain rendering, draw distances, texture detail, photo grametry and physically based rendering, anti-aliasing, lighting, particle effects, alpha effects, material rendering, reflections, physics, level of overall detail, size and scale, in game asset rendering, animates, resolution and framrate, and just about every other conceivable tech thing you can name. Channels like this are so desperate to hate on infinite, they make stupid ridiculous vids like this and think it’s some sort of victory.
thank you ily
@@smercallberg I prefer doom over halo because of these halo fanboys are just so damn ungrateful
@@smercallberg I prefer doom over halo because of these halo fanboys are just so damn ungrateful
The tire tracks don't do that for me, as of now, although there's been a lot of updates since this video was uploaded, and the no body/legs thing is because, any FOV value above the default, disables them, due to a clipping issue that happens, when you look down you look through your character model, this has been an issue since the early flights, in the first flight for Halo Infinite changing the FOV value above the default value, didn't make the legs disappear like that, and instead allowed you to see the clipping issue when you look all the way down, I submitted a ticket, to 343 during that flight, in hopes they would address it, so when the second flight was released, instead of actually fixing the issue, they just covered it up, and disabling the body/legs then the FOV value is set to anything above the default value, I like to play with my FOV set to 90, and yes there's no body/legs for me, I hope they fix it at some point, because Halo: MCC's FOV setting works no problem, and Actually had this same issue, during their PC Flights, and 343 decided to properly fix it on those titles, but not for Halo Infinite not sure why that is, possibly because they keep adding more, and more content, and all the events, I just hope they'll get around to improving the smaller details, because all the small things add up, and help the immersion, and overall visual quality.
it doesn't make any sense. bungie had 3 years to develop Halo 3. 343 had 6 years.
Idk if you guys get this bug in halo infinite but sometimes the game won't load correctly and the graphics will be downgraded by like 70% and it looks terrible
Little detail in H3, if you throw grenade on soft surface (sand and ground), grenade won't bounce, if you throw hard surface (stone, metal and concrete) it will bounce. Amazing detail !
infinite feels like an early access indie game
At first i was like "how bad could it be" but wow. Severe is right.
I'm in disbelief looking at those tire tracks. I just can't understand how this got past QA.
Bro its just spamming decals,
@PyrotechnicProductions QA means Quality Assurance or Assessment.
Halo 3 was brimming with excitement over the new hardware possibilities. Infinite is 343 struggling to make decals work.
Footprints and tire tracks in Infinite are so bad that it would be better to get rid of them completely.
The difference between 343 Halo and Bungie halo
343 halo - a game built by committee, following business trends, a machine trying to force golden eggs out of a goose
Bungie Halo - A game built by passionate artists, with a desire to make something great that people will enjoy, improving and evolving on what they built before.
Bungie is overrated, 343 is better
Crazy how many people let infinite slide because it kind of had the old art style
Wow, explosions still look absolutely awful. How have they not fixed that by now
they would rather monetize the shit out of their game and ban good forge maps rather than make the game actually playable
halo 3 will never be topped. 343 is a parody company making satire halo games
I do miss the attention to small details in games. It made them feel more alive
Yeah, the hell happened to it these days?
OG Halo 3 is a masterpiece of gaming
Proof that you can't just throw money at a video game to ensure it's a good product. You need software engineers who know their engines well enough to simulate sand / snow trails and parallax textures, PBR, and other visual and physical effects. That, and not have a super buggy tire trail.
It’s a shame halo is what it now is I miss the days when a halo came out everybody got excited and it was a hit every time you could spend months playing those games finding new Easter eggs or running multiplayer
They should have waited and put more time and care into it, currently playing the campaign and it might look like halo but it just dont play and feel like halo. Feels like a ubisoft open world game with a halo skin on it
They just needed to open the H3 anniversary world and expand on that and all fans would’ve been happy instead of the infinite crap we got
343 has no excuses for this...
Halo 3 was released in 2007
Halo infinite released in 2021
A decade and a half gap and this is the outcome?
This should not be a reality
This stuff and more instantly stood out to me. Modding H3, I was getting the same feel of the shooting mechanics before infinite came out, but with better looking explosions, bullets & tracers with drop, and decals from plasma. H3 was awesome. If they’d go back and redo the things you highlighted it would make a serious difference. It’s like crackdown level explosions and decals. Classic sounds from vehicles make a huge difference too.
I like Infinite's multiplayer but one of the biggest visual flaws is definitely the lack of reactivity. Many surfaces won't even display bullet holes, and on surfaces that do, the holes look to clean and disappear fast. No explosions make terrain look damaged and only a few add a soot decal that quickly disappears as well. Most noticeably of all, defeated players show 0 damage of any sort to their armor. Hardlight weapons do have their outright disintegration effect but anything else leaves bodies pristine.
For a game made in 2007 halo 3 looks amazing even to this day still deserves a remaster though
This is halo 3.
@@somerandomidiot1333 yep I mistyped
HDR on my QLED makes that game look even better! MCC on PC should get a native HDR patch, instead of relying on Auto HDR
This actually doesn’t seem that bad when other games would just straight up remove details
ill never get over the explosion effects, sound and visual wise
Halo 3 was bungies love letter to their fans and we didn't even realize it.
Halo 3 is garbage, is halo 2 HD
@spartanjohn-1176 Lol don't be mad cause you sucked at Halo 3.
We need a *Halo 3: Anniversary.* I want it so bad right now.
^^100%^^
Wait till 2027.
@@OMGtheykilledKenny42 if they don't release a *Halo 3: Anniversary* by 2027, I'll be disappointed. Not angry, just disappointed. It needs to happen like how *Halo 2: Anniversary* was made with Blur Studios cutscenes, enhanced gameplay graphics and a slightly remastered soundtrack.
If all of those elements were put into *Halo 3: Anniversary,* I would buy it on the spot.
@@madness0169 20th Anniversary mark. Seems appropriate. It should be a stand-alone title with remastered graphics, audio, maps... but it doesn't even need the classic/anniversary toggle.
@@OMGtheykilledKenny42 everyone has their own opinion.
The jump in graphical fidelity between halo 2 and halo 3 quite literally changed my life when I was growing up. My little peanut brain just couldn't comprehend how a game could look so beautiful and terrifying at the same time.
Fast forward to today, and I'm still playing it, appreciating even more of the nuances that made it such a masterpiece.
RIP halo. You were the childhood of many.
Halo 3 physics and details are awesome.
Man I hate the ''pro player'' excuse, not because a game is used for e-sports it means it has to be dull as shit, Halo 3 had the massive MLG and it wasn't a bad game with no physics and bad looks like Halo Infinite is.
I’m still holding onto my Xbox 360 with all my original halo games ☺️😮💨🥰
Rip 360 servers
While it is still a downgrade, the reason the character’s legs aren’t appearing is because the FOV has been adjusted higher than the default setting. For some reason that is an issue with Halo Infinite but not the MCC.
Being fair, the footage we saw of Infinite (at least the warthog driving bit, I didn’t look at the other bits before typing this up) is from 2021, and I wanna say a few of the things were touched up a bit. The Warthog tracks were DEFINITELY touched up since then, they look nice as far as I’ve seen myself. I do miss the minor details Bungie took care to do, and it makes me wonder if 343 **genuinely** doesn’t care about that stuff, if the engine couldn’t handle it, mismanagement of the development, or if they’re just not thinking about that stuff. I suspect a great many of Infinite’s issues have to do with the upper management, and not a lack of creativity from the teams “in the trenches”.
Microsoft/343 management being out of touch with how the rank-and-file workers need to actually LEARN to work with a proprietary engine. It takes time. If MS wants to please their shareholders, give more realistic deadlines so you can have a worthy finished product!
Sadly a common trope in the video game franchise industry. Ive noticed it in the cod franchise too. Older games tended to have more character in their textures and even had specular occlusion (look it up) Even though the graphics were dated, it made up for it in details. Newer games have all the graphics but totally lack the details. The Modern Warfare Remastered games are a good example.
They toned down the jump height, added jumping animations to your guns that make you feel really heavy, added new walk animations that feel crunchy as oppose to the older, smooth swaying walk cycles, added really condensed sounding gun sounds in an attempt to make them sound realistic, and totally changed the way certain guns and animations looked. (Worst offender was the mp5k from mw2 remastered) The result, in my opinion, was a completely different game instead of just a simple touch up on the graphics.
Man I miss the classic assault rifle look. I was never a fan of the Halo reach design.
One is built with passion
The other, filled with greed
How does infinite still look like its in beta 3 years after release...
I lost it when i saw the-RANDOM GENERATED TIRE TRACKS!
to be honest after seeing how they improved the VFX for the equipment and explosions I think they can fix this, not to excuse the lack of development at launch but you gotta admit the team has been on top of things lately.
Honest opinion Halo Infinite isn’t that bad of a game when you learn to stop prodding it with the Bungie stick. Appreciate you taking the time to be positive instead of riding the hate train
@@alifahm1991 I agree with you, people shouldnt compare the game with it's older version, as everyone will see the old one with rose tinted glasses and believe all the old stuff was better
@@SysterorI respectfully disagree, I think it is normal to compare it with older games, as a consumer of course you expect your product to only get better and better with every entry and I feel like the series has been mishandled and the games 343 has put out have lacked a lot of stuff older halo games had. I’m really happy with how they have committed to fixing infinite tho, seeing progress is always good, new gamemodes and new stuff to unlock. I don’t play the game anymore but I’d like to see it make a comeback someday cause I’ve put in it like 400 hours.
Halo infinite visuals look really unfinished. Some maps look better than others. Halo infinite got so many wacky visual issues. The lighting looks awful in infinite.
You can't be so hard on Infinite guys. They only had 8 years of developments time.
and a 500 million dollar budget
bro I would rather just not have the tire tracks 💀
So you’re just gonna ignore the fact that halo 3’s gameplay feels slow and thick as molasses
Unlike the fluid and slick gameplay of infinite
Wrong
No one they cancelled physics collisions. They couldn't manage to make vehicles not drive like dog shit.
I think what hurts the most is to think about what the original Bungie could do with modern technology.
In order, it would be
1) Have a bunch of ambitious goals
2) Waste a bunch of time
3) Throw away 60% of their completed work
4) Scratch together a playable-build in 6 months
5) Split off into two different companies
I’ve noticed a trend in modern day game series, they seem to be downgraded when compared to previous titles
343 invested everything into making the textures HD and nice but neglected everything else, it's actually kinda crazy.
I do believe the SlipSpace engine is what’s holding back Infinite, but it’s honestly not as bad as most people make it out to be.
Microsoft wants to use a proprietary engine, but doesn't wanna spend money on long-term employees to learn the engine.. Microsoft wanting to cheap out..