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- Comparison of Robot Paradise RP-01 Acoustic Wave VS Takara Tomy MP-13 Soundwave. All music is provided with free license from TH-cam.
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Great video comparisons, it’s amazing years later the TT MP soundwave still holds to this day, I agree I can’t see myself replacing it but I love the Robot Paradise as well it nails everything toon wise. In the end I will be keeping both it’s a win win! 👍🏽
Yup
That MP Soundwave still holds up. I think Acoustic Wave is a marginal upgrade. It's not like upgrading MP-11 to MP-52 or DS Crimson Wave, now that is an upgrade. I may get Acoustic Wave maybe sometime down the road, but not a necessity. I'm very happy with MP Soundwave, he is my favorite MP out of all of them.
Great Take
I believe MP-13 holds up amazingly for it's age, however, I must disagree when you say the upgrade is only marginal. I think it's fairly considerable and very noticeable. The more I see them together, the more I see the improvements of RP-01.
Agree, it's marginal at best, same with the Rumble and Frenzy, that being said the Laserbeak and Ravage they are releasing is a marked improvement over the MP, and I am definitely getting those.
Agree 💯…. Maybe the tapes are a little better, idk yet. Think there isn’t much improvement to do to a mold like that…
@@ManMorFlo yeah I agree, you can tell the era MP13 is from and acoustic wave fits in much better with the MP releases of today
I have both of these figures as well, and they're both great. The ONE thing that bothers me about the RP Soundwave is the gold chrome on the chest. If that was yellow paint to match the yellow on the knees it would have been nearly perfect. The gold chrome just feels out of place and look a little odd IMO.
Agreed, but it's a very Fans Toys thing to do. A bit like the chromed red pieces on Phoenix's legs, or the gold pieces on Hunk's torso, the coloured plastic pieces in Sovereign and Quietus etc. They seem to favour a very toon-influenced look, but with minor deviations in paint apps and detailing to add their own flavour. The Rumble/Frenzy that come with AW is a good example, as the 'back' of the tape mode has a deco closer to the TT version, which isn't toon accurate, and the robot mode actually suffers as a result because said detailing is visible on the legs/back.
Still, it's pretty telling that the only real nit-picks I have for this are the chest/knee accent colour being wrong (should be more of a goldish-yellow) and it being a bit too tall, both of which I can live with. The rest if it is pretty great from what I've seen. The blue looks closer to the toon under natural light than it did in the promo shots, and the white is more of a grey, which is again toon accurate. Still eagerly awaiting the arrival of mine! Only need this and MP-52+ Skywarp for a fully toon styled season one cast.
Oh, MP-02/MP-13 is still great though (I have the former Hasbro version, with all the cassettes and the Modfans upgrade kit).
I also wish the gold wrapped around the edge like in the MP-13 rather than just on the face. It just looks nicer imo.
Your intro in this one is 🙌. Giving credit to Bobby and John. I feel we got a window into your character in this one. #respect. Ok now I’m gonna watch the review and decide which one I’d like to add to my imaginary collection.
Thanks so much, I appreciate that comment
Most definitely. Major respect! Virtue is the root cause of happiness. Have a happy day!
Thanks for the video! I appreciate your comparisons to give me an idea between the figures. Funny thing, we don't always coincide but as you say, that's the subjective part of the comparison, but still provides me another point of view on things I may oversee. Keep on with the great work! I've heard your name on a couple of Bobby's recent videos. He speaks good of you as well.
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
TT Soundwave and Sideswipe were my first figures I got from overseas. That was a very honest review. Thanks brother
Thanks
I definitely think Acoustic Wave is the better figure overall. Between the brighter colors, the ability to swap parts to look as toy or cartoon accurate as you wish, the more filled out transformation, and even the fact his "batteries" are stored in a compartment like actual batteries makes it feel like a much more high quality figure to me. I also just think the proportions look way better.
That's not to say MP-13 is bad at all, far from it. It's still a great looking figure, and I think the scanner accessory was a great addition. Or even just the fact you can store the cassette accessories on him, and the fact that the buttons and switches on him can actually be pressed and moved.
I'll probably end up getting both honestly. MP-13 first just because it's cheaper, and then RP-01 later on.
They're both amazing figure forsure!! Either one is a win!! As always great review!!
Thanks man
Happy with my MP-13 - bought it for £120 ($160) in Toys R Us (The good old days!). It also came with all the tapes as I remember!
I will also be keeping both.
As always Sony, an excellent comparison. In general, I prefer the Acoustic Waves sculpt, but the TT version still looks good on the shelf. I like the real world look of the official in alt mode, so I think that is the mode it will be displayed in. I am looking forward to getting acoustic wave in hand.
By the way, my two year old daughter loves your music. She breaks into dance every time it comes on.
Thanks, glad the music made someone happy lol
A first-rate comparison of two awesome versions of Soundwave and their cool accessories!
Thanks
@@TMReviews You're doing awesome work! 👍
Great Vs. Video. RP/FT did an incredible job here also holding on to Takara MP's including Sound Blaster
Thanks, I hope they make blaster
@@TMReviews me too!
It is Obvious a newer Figure will be better than an 8 year old one... I rather see how Good MP 13 is. I don´t need the Fans Toys one. I got the Hasbro version with all cassettes at the same price as the Takara one, so there is no need for the Acoustic Wave... Also I hate this new trend of new figures MP figures where the Transformation is not fun any more... I hate grabbing a figure and transform it only once... So MP 13 wins for me.
You can't lose woth either! I feel ya man..they both rock in their own ways!👈🏼💪🏼
I'm in the same boat as you, finding a MP sized robot that is fun to transform is very difficult especially when even the official products starts to get too involved.
But gotta ask; why did you watch the VS then if your opinion in the matter was already set?
Great video!
Waiting on mine to ship from ShowZ. That gap in price also depends on where you get it from, mine came at $227. I have the KO of Soundwave so this was an easy pick up for me.
Thanks for watching, Ya I only use American retail pricing
wow i lucked out and picked up the US release MP soundwave from TRU eons ago for i think... $90??? came with lazer beak/ravage/frenzy (no rumble :( ) awesome review as always! for the prices today, i'd go with fanstoys. all their makings have been good solid bricks.
I went with the Japanese release as I hated the yellow eyes Hasbro puts on the US release. The Japanese version has red eyes just like the cartoon. Fans Toys gives you both options but I'm never touching the other head sculpt as I like the red eyes.
Great VS. 🌟😎... yeah I think Acoustic wave should win definitely how long it took to come out. TT still holds up as a great display.
I am impressed Sony. I did not expect the vs to be up so soon. I am looking forward to this.
Thanks, got one more coming too
Good comparisons! However, i'm good with my MP13 Soundwave.
If got the THF Soundwave and to be Honest it has nothing to envy to the Fan Toys version or TT, definitely love it
I didn’t really notice up until now that the color was off on the FT. It’s too bright. Wonder if this will make Takara do a 2.0 on theirs.
Even without going through the whole video, having both of these figures side by side is a no brainer on which one to have for the collection: RP-01. The shade of blue, the proportions, and the tweaked shapes make it more in line with the rest of the updated collection. With the reference picture, it matches more to that too without it being hyper toon. I even notice that the backpack even looks closer to it. The only non-toon aspect I like is the gold trim on the chest. I actually think that's pretty cool even if not accurate. I wish the glass was a light blue tint like the reference, but that can be solved with a piece of paper inside it to simulate that.
But MP-13 is still a fun figure to have. Mine was gonna be alt mode but I might actually have the chance to just have him as a desk bot and get to mess with switching him back and forth in his modes.
What isn’t a no brainer is the price. At $250+ the marginal upgrades over MP-13 are barely even worth considering it.
@@octobotimus I probably should have mentioned that I was speaking about myself personally and not in general. I love MP-13 but RP-01 is going to replace it on my shelf based on the looks alone. I didn't like all the toy details that MP-13 had on it, and it's more apparent as I see it compared to this.
I disagree that these are marginal upgrades. They do a lot for the aesthetics and that makes a big difference. Head, chest, shoulders, hips, legs, hands, back - they're all improvements. But if you feel that isn't the case then that's cool too.
I love the mp-13 but have always felt the need for a new soundwave. A more toon looking one. And while this rp isnt 100% toon looking its pretty damn close. Super excited for the new acoustic wave. Superior imo
Correct, FAR Superior.
I love John comparison videos. Love his rants too.
Here's hoping the acrostic wave get a KO. Mp Soundwave was perfect but I'm ready for a change.
I don't really understand why reviewers keep saying that extra translucent piece for Acoustic Wave are to make him toy accurate, other than the little arrow, the old toy didn't have all that extra stuff.
Yeah...thats true.
Acoustic wave seems to have a style similar to deformation space crimson wings, might really go well together
I think they will
The more angled face plate makes MP13's eyes look more menacing.
I'll keep my MP Soundwave and use RP for my Soundblaster (Acoustic Blaster probably).
As much as I love MP-13 and I'm keeping mine, he's great! I prefer the sturdiness and overall presentation of the RP. Plus, I get to make a hybrid Soundwave that's between the toon and toy versions. It's great!
Great review! do they fans toys generally have a lot of die cast parts? is the a reason why there is no decepticon symbol on the front of fans toys?
Thanks, FansToys generally does have diecast, but most third party doesn't come with symbols because they aren't officially licensed
@@TMReviews Just found out you can get third party stickers to put on. I was too old when transformers came out as I was in high school by then but my 8 year old has been loving the G1 series so I have been vicariously enjoying the whole thing and buying him the toys :) I was just looking into the next level quality up from hasbros SS. These are amazing ! love the die cast aspect too.
Yep. Sorry I forgot to mention that
@@TMReviews no prob :)
I see no need to upgrade as of yet.
i think i'll just get Acoustic Wave at this point, since while being an upgrade it's not that much and i never had a Mp Soundwave it's only logical i go for the upgrade (even if it's not that much)
the MP is great, esp for an old toys been this many years. But the joints between the legs and the waist needs to be improved for sure,
holy cow...when i got MP13 it was $112...but that was ages ago.
That was either the US version or a KO
@@TMReviews I'm guessing US then it came from toys r us
Considering how long ago MP-13 came out, that toon accuracy wasn't as much of consideration back then, and that FT has had the option of seeing and correcting all of the TT issues, MP-13 is still better.
Not really.
@@hulksmash8159 what a compelling argument
@@UrMomsChauffer I'm not here to argue. Just letting you know that your opinion is just that: your opinion and not reality.
@@UrMomsChauffer P.S. I own both of them.
@@hulksmash8159 slow clap for you
Does the FT tape fit in the MP version
Yes
Unfortunately, the HasTak cassettes will not fit in the Robot Paradise Acoustic Wave.
BTW, Robot Paradise should make Acoustic Blaster (Soundblaster)...
Almost all aspects of Acoustic Wave is superior over MP-13 except from the overly complicated transformation. I especially like the option of being able to change between toon and toy look. Thats a nice touch. At the end of the day, my thoughts are, if you already have a MP-13, then stick with it. If you do not have MP-13, then definitely go for Acoustic Wave. Or sell your MP-13 first. lol
That's where I landed
Agreed. You really can't lose with either one.
I'm going to keep and display MP-13 in Cassette mode and display the Fan Toys in Robot mode.
@@LetsGetitBoah yes I'm always taken back by the "one or the other" discussion..when you've paid for both, why not keep both?
@@MWRogers Correct, which is what I've chosen to do.
I think when I got my TT MP-13, I paid about $160 for it and I'm not sure if it was some time later after its release so prices were a little better. I probably had to pay closer to $200 when it came out I think. Still, $240 for Acoustic Wave isn't horrible at all. The fact that I see people comparing it to KO Soundwave prices boggles my mind because, yeah, you can definitely do that for any figure but that's not a fair assessment. There isn't an astronomical price difference between MP-13 and RP-01.
I'll wait for the ko wait it here already
Good morning everyone
I'll be honest, the only reason I got an Acoustic Wave over the MP11 is because the batteries had weapon storage like the original toy. That's it. These two figures are amazing in their own ways.
The only problem I see with AW is the head mold and the light color. I wonder if they will make a toy color version instead of this toon one. Head sculpt should be more meaner looking.
What are you on about? Soundwave in the cartoons was never looking mean, but more of a neutral expression thereof so many errors with him wearing a purple Autobot insignia. He's 1 of the few robots that wouldn't feel esthetically wrong on either side. But when it comes down to the comics it's a totally different matter, but they were designed with the toys in hand
You shouldn't give more articulation range to the bot if you have to partially undo the transformation. Are you gonna leave him partially miss-transformed on your shelf? Didn't think so, so it shouldn't count.
He's clearly more articulated. Everyone who has had it in hand has said it's one of the most articulated Fan Toys figures every made.
@@LetsGetitBoah I didn't say he wasn't more articulated. I said if you have to cheat it to get more articulation out of the figure it shouldn't count in a versus.
The articulation I gave it an edge on was the double jointed knees, hips, and hands, none of those required partial tranformation
Forgot to mention the really great height difference here .... for me Scale prop 2nd Important factor apart from looks, and was mentioned in other vs .. hurry to get the Vs up probably or really excited with the new figure...
The height is not much different...RP only slightly higher but not really noticeable
@@TMReviews I would swear that in another review it was day and night to the point almost same as Megs, but y do not own the FT and considering to get it, so thank you for the time to reply .. :)
My previous review I had mp-13 legs bent so he may have been shorter
Thank you fornyour reciew inalready own a takara masterpeice soundwave and imnhapoy with it but i fo want to purchase the wuakewave too thank you
Thanks for watching
Does acoustic wave fit takara's tapes inside him?
Yes,but not the other way around
My lease favourite part with the masterpiece is the feet, the bottom of the feet are painted and exposed in the alt mode, so when the paint chips off of the feet when it’s one the ground, you can see when it’s in the alt mode… my other lease favourite part is that you NEVER PUSH THE TORSO FORWARD!!!
I agree with the end result but not with the total score and the points per category. In my opinion RP-01 wins every category except for Paint were I believe it's a tie because the RP-01 blue isn't painted. The only categories were I'm not very sure are Accessories and Gimmicks because being able to change into the toy look is a gimmick but at the same time if we consider that a gimmick maybe we can't consider the parts needed for the gimmick accessories so in the end if you consider the toy parts accessories RP will win that category if not then from those two the RP-01 only wins gimmicks.
Thanks for the comparison TMReviews.
We need a FansToys/Robot Paradise G1 Optimus Prime in the works.
Agreed
Like the new one better. Overall like them both. But the new one is just more happy 😄
They should make a upgrade kit for the MP 13 so the legs can go all the way back and make it look better in the pelvis section
That would b awesome 👌
I'm surprised they never made many upgrade kits for this. I've only seen a light up head, and the articulated hands. But nothing else. Most people who've done anything to it had repainted or modded themselves.
True that..they should..but hell knowing Takara they will just make another..wish they'd concentrate on some different figures instead of making ones that are already good..ugh..frustrating.
Why? All you have to do is turn the thighs so the Grey plastic is facing forward and you get all the articulation you would ever need.
I found the TT the other day for $220 new everywhere else was $350
Great vs.
Hey Sony I watched skullface's review the other day and he said that the blue wasn't painted and then he started running off how oh how can u give us a figure half painted 🤷♂️ im with u I think he's fully painted oh well I love him 😃👍
It seems painted to me...only reason I say that is because I scraped some paint accidentally but I can't verify if he is fully painted or not
@@TMReviews hr is fully painted I just checked my box and I have blue paint chips on the Styrofoam 😲
Yup
The toy accurate leg piece you said has to be removed for transformation doesn't need to be removed
The outer leg piece must be removed, it can't be transformed with it, however the knee, shin and thigh pieces can stay on
@@TMReviews I've seen video with it left on during transformation it doesn't need to be removed watch emgo video he shows how to do it with and without that piece attached.
Found it, I stand corrected
@@TMReviews Just thought I'd point it out so you could see you could do it if you wanted to do it.
The piece you "forgot the purpose of"? It's a sort of scanner. It also doubles as the "connector" when attached to both Rumble's & Frenzy's battery mode piledrivers to form a semblance of the cable that was seen when Soundwave played back Laserbeak's findings in The Transformers: The Movie.
Meanwhile...I believe that MP13 still holds up just fine to this day. (Unless it's Hasbro's Year of the Goat version. That thing should be rocketed straight into the heart of a supernova.) It's probably why Takara hasn't been in a rush to do a new one. Soundwave is a fairly popular character, after all!!
But yeah, I personally don't see enough of a reason to switch to the FansToys one; it's been redesigned from the initial FT02 designs, sure...but much like their Hot Rod, it still doesn't quite cut it for me.
The Year of the Goat one was just because it was made from clear plastic, right? I always hear how that material isn't the best for holding up over time (not to mention yellowing with age).
@@Rakerong that and poo brown on the legs
@@Rakerong Exactly. Predominantly clear plastic with hideous bronze paint apps. There's a Year of the Goat version of G2 Laser Optimus Prime (that's actually based on Hasbro's retooling of Takara's Car Robots Black Convoy, itself a repaint & retool of the original Laser Optimus) that's done the same way: clear plastic, bronze paint apps.
Thankfully, the Tape Minions aren't as heavy on the clear plastic (beware of Laserbeak & Buzzsaw, though). Yellowing? This I haven't heard about...but yeah, the durability of the clear plastic is crap. My Soundwave is literally just shy of junker status.
Takara needs to figure out a Soundwave 2.0 for one reason: to fix the Tape Ejection gimmick!! 😑😑😑
@@DragoonMS It did have atrocious paint apps, for sure. I know that when toys are made from clear plastic (to simulate stealth, for example) it tends to discolor over time. Figured that's what was happening to these, but maybe it depends on the plastic quality. Sorry that you have a toy that's falling apart for that reason. I've had non-transformer figures suffer from the clear plastic nonsense.
Oh man, I have MP-13 and the tapes get stuck inside ALL the time. I would think that if TT did a 2.0, they'd have to fix that.
@@Rakerong I doubt they will. They don't seem to know HOW.
MP13/MP13B: Tape Minions get stuck constantly, regardless of which way you put them in.
Fall of Cybertron Blaster/Soundwave/Soundblaster: Tape Minions get stuck constantly, especially if you have three in there, and it's worse than the MP.
Siege & Netflix WFC-T: Once again, the Tape Minions get stuck constantly, regardless of which way you put them in.
Titans Return is the only Soundwave & Blaster in recent memory where the Tape Minions don't get stuck. Kingdom Core class Soundwave ALMOST did it, but it's possible for the door to get kinda stuck...so it's a fail. Which sucks because the slab of plastic comes out effortlessly.
Your intro music reminds me of hotline Miami
Thanks I think
The Fanstoys Soundwave is not entirely painted. That is Blue plastic not paint....FYI
I've scratched some of it so I'm not so sure that's true
So do you feel takara can pass for a soundblaster?
Didn't they already put one out? Just but that one
@@TMReviews yes they did, that one had Ratbat. Funny thing about it is that the tape was more expensive than Soundblaster, almost like a giveaway by those that couldn't bother breaking the box original content.
Acustic wave can actually transform with the side leg panels
Interesting to me how everyone reviewing these two isn't giving Takara/Tomy more credit. The thing is what? 8 or 9 years old? You'd think FT would have blown it out of the water being that much newer. And it just isn't.
They do. Mp13 is many fans favorite MP ever still.
As a FT Fan I Don't think FT Acouctic wave is better. Always feel a little greasy about the FT Toys
You should know that there's no comparison between the real thing and a bootleg.
I will cancel my preorder of the robot paradise figure. When I look at my MP Soundwave on my shelf with all the tapes that was included with the Hasbro figure for a very good price it’s not worth it. The Hasbro is too good even though it’s old. I’m actually impressed how good it is and makes me appreciate him more. Nice video it helped me.
I don't believe the blue on RP-01 is painted; I think it's metallic speckle embedded into the plastic.
I scraped a bit of the paint on on the back, so I'm more convinced it is paint but still can't verify the entire figure
if you lift up the hip skirts and the butt plate, on my copy I can see some blue paint overspray, and on some of the contoured plastic I can see spots with really light paint, with a few spots on the inside of the area where paint was missed. Pretty noticeable on my copy. Now that is just one area of the figure, but I don't notice different shades of blue, so my thought is blue is all painted
YOU DID NOT AJUST FOR INFLATION ON THAT PRICING BRO…,,230 is like 275 now …. I can’t believe Soundwave cost that much 5 6 years ago
220 back in the days is actually much more money than 250 nowadays. I’d say FT is cheapper
the only issue i have with acoustic wave is HOW FREAKING EXPENSIVE HE IS 😭😭😭
Yep. Get used to that from now on
@@TMReviews Luckily im saving up for him, i only need 125 dollars
Acoustic Wave's hips look better.
Nice review young MAN! Like you already stated. No matter which one you roll with..you win..man they both really do rock in their OWN ways! HECK if a man has both..then you can put one in Alt mode and one in robot mode..done!..Great review as always!👈🏼👍🏼💪🏼🤘🏻
Thanks!
Takara 2.0
I guess I got it for a good price at 175 shipped.
Yes. Great price
@@TMReviews wasn't sure if I was going to be scammed or not, since first time buying from this site. But today he came in 😁. Awesome figure!!!
Hey TMReviews. Do you know what makes me mad as hell when I watch these comparison videos? No matter what company or version, every figure always has some frustratingly stupid design decisions in it. It's like the do things wrong on purpose sometimes. For example you pointed out the gold chest on the Acoustic Wave not matching the gold on his legs. That was an idiot decision! What's wrong with people? I hate having things I like about each figure and things that I hate. It doesn't seem impossible to make one with sensible decisions all around. Even if I had a lot of money, which I don't, it sucks to buy several versions of a figure and know that you can never be fully happy with any of them.
This is a big reason (other than money) that I feel like I can never fully get into this hobby. I have 4 MP figures right now and would like to stop at 6 or 8. I know everyone is saying "Good luck with that," but I am pretty firm in my resolve. It took me a couple of years to commit to owning every three of these. They were all Ebay risks. I made my first legit store purchase of an TE-01 Optimus Prime from ShowZ just a couple of weeks ago.
I want a few core characters and then I'm out. It's a never ending rat race, hoping to get a figure done right. And I know that "right" is subjective, but I'm sure we can all agree that there are some stupid looking decisions made with lots of the figures. I'm the kind of person who's enjoyment is ruined by things that I find to be silly.
Sorry. Rant done.
I see your thumb has stopped bleeding, down voting......... LMAO Kappa xD
Lol
“ Faaannnnnssss Toooyyyyyss” in my Bobby Skullface voice 💀
Lol
You're gonna tell me you're doing a comparison review between these two figures - one of which isn't explicitly intended to resemble the cartoon and the other having dedicated parts to make him look toy accurate - and you're not comparing them to the G1 toy with those parts installed because "you don't need that"?
Not enough to take my gi joe classified money. All hail mp13
THF Sonic Wave plus all 6 tapes for $99. $200+ for either one of these makes me throw up a little.
??? KOs are always cheaper. You make me throw up a little.
@@zit11owner be nice
I got the THF with the tapes for $80 and well worth it! I did upgrade to the acoustic wave after trying to hold out.
@@MWRogers no need to be nice for someone claiming to support illegal industry
@@davidez4640 He was stating an observation. I don't see where he was saying to anyone HEY go with the KO!
To him, the cost isn't worth it...