I am just a dumb retired truck driver,my best friend was a service manager for 30 plus years.I have heard all the horror stories.That being said my belief is that if they would just slow down the assembly lines.they would have better quality.But the real down fall is when they go public and answer to stock holders .
My husband and I are buying a new RV in the spring. When Brinkley first appeared on the scene we were so excited about them and we were seriously thinking about getting one. Then the flippen new Flippin Brinkley owners turned us off! Big Time!! All owners kept saying was "Buy a Brinkley" everything else is Junk. You get what you pay for as far as low end pricing, middle and high end. Every RV has issues at one time or another even coming off the lots. Including Brinkly has had several issues. Some owners say minor issues, I have seen some major issues posted also. And also very nerve wracking when comparing Brinkly to an Ahara. The only comparison is the little bit of copying of the outside graphics. Floorplans aren't even close to one another. We are still researching what new camper we would like to our needs, size, tastes and price point. What we decide on is what we will love. There are plenty of beautiful RVs out there. I have a whole family of campers and each couple has their own style. I would never tell my family their choice of camper is junk. It is what they have chose to love. Problems are fixable just like your home and car. Your money to spend your camper love. No one out there should ever put on social media condemning something that someone else has purchased. I want to thank some of the Brinkley owners for turning me off of purchasing one.
I can diagnose and fix a discrete switch... those computer panels are another story. Just give me switches. And I don't want to get my phone to turn a light on.
Every video on a bunkhouse with rear bagage door, the video host says "great to load a couple bikes". I want to see a video loading a couple of full-size bikes in that space.
Supply and demand always works. When we look at new cars, no OEM would even think of offering a new for sail with out a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty. This is the cost of entry. That said, the demand for new cars and competition is driving this behavior. When we look at RV's the lack of engineering and fit and finish is laughable. Why is this the case? When we look at any new car, the complexity and engineering is all about chasing the market (1567 Billion - 2023) which is huge. When we look at new RV's the market, around 31 billion (2022) is why we are where we are. What I find fascinating is the complete lack of channel infrastructure for RV sales as compared to Automotive OEM because there is no market for it and no agency protection laws. It all goes back to supply and demand and the stagnation of the RV market. When we see independents being bought by "majors" that is all about buying market share which may be problematic based on the anti-trust laws. Any consolation hurts competition, full stop. I'm in the market for an RV and I am looking of by a quality product, but I soon realized I need to lower my expectation because the market today is tolerating junk. This is a fact. The notion that there are 5th wheel frame issues, and nonsensical plumbing issues and these manufactures has not been subject to a class action suits is interesting to say the least. Any company knowingly building a sub-standard product supplied to an OEM builder, because they are thinking their OEM customer may indemnify them is also interesting. This bean counter mentality (we built it because our customer paid lots of money to build it even though we know is was not structurally sound) is always problematic. In the limit it's always supply and demand. Im my case an RV OEM says we are them best, I would expect them to prove it and put their money (warranty) where their mouth is. If they built a quality product then a three year performance warranty should be easy.
The Rv industry is like any other industry…my first Maytag was a 20 year old machine that lasted another 15 years. You can hardly get a machine that lasts 5 years now. Our first TT was a 2001 Dutchman sport we bought used. It was built like a fortress and we loved it and kept it 7 years until we outgrew it. We then purchased a new 2015 Jayco Jayfeather. It was beautiful and we’ve kept it 10 years but there are huge differences in quality. I understand they trying to make them much more light weight and appealing decor on the inside, but it does seem just like appliance industry..much cheaper quality, much prettier, more expensive than ever but basically disposable.
We’ve found a floor plan we love from KZ. I would love to get your reviews of KZ 5th wheels. I haven’t seen hardly any reviews of the quality of the Durango. We’re looking to purchase one to do some full time RVing. I am very impressed with KZ because the floor plan they came up with for 2025 is something I specifically requested and they listened!
nomadic Movement You tube channel bought a $150k Airstream and had nothing but problems with it on a trip around the US. I’m not sure is airstream is the quality people think it is.
Brinkley has raised the stakes…but they need to hold Lippert/Furrion’s feet to the fire!
I am just a dumb retired truck driver,my best friend was a service manager for 30 plus years.I have heard all the horror stories.That being said my belief is that if they would just slow down the assembly lines.they would have better quality.But the real down fall is when they go public and answer to stock holders .
I loved this! We’re looking to buy our retirement 5th wheel and you’re helping me know all the things we need to think about and watch for!
My husband and I are buying a new RV in the spring. When Brinkley first appeared on the scene we were so excited about them and we were seriously thinking about getting one. Then the flippen new Flippin Brinkley owners turned us off! Big Time!! All owners kept saying was "Buy a Brinkley" everything else is Junk. You get what you pay for as far as low end pricing, middle and high end. Every RV has issues at one time or another even coming off the lots. Including Brinkly has had several issues. Some owners say minor issues, I have seen some major issues posted also. And also very nerve wracking when comparing Brinkly to an Ahara. The only comparison is the little bit of copying of the outside graphics. Floorplans aren't even close to one another. We are still researching what new camper we would like to our needs, size, tastes and price point. What we decide on is what we will love. There are plenty of beautiful RVs out there. I have a whole family of campers and each couple has their own style. I would never tell my family their choice of camper is junk. It is what they have chose to love. Problems are fixable just like your home and car. Your money to spend your camper love. No one out there should ever put on social media condemning something that someone else has purchased. I want to thank some of the Brinkley owners for turning me off of purchasing one.
I like to look at cougars 😂
People cheer laws requiring more and more mandated standard equipment on cars without thinking about how it's making their cars unaffordable.
I can diagnose and fix a discrete switch... those computer panels are another story. Just give me switches. And I don't want to get my phone to turn a light on.
Great information thank you all
Ps I am on my 6 th Rv
Dave from Eastern shore Maryland (Salisbury) loving your show
What I've heard is that customers are most upset with the dealership service department they are working with. working wth.
Every video on a bunkhouse with rear bagage door, the video host says "great to load a couple bikes". I want to see a video loading a couple of full-size bikes in that space.
Supply and demand always works. When we look at new cars, no OEM would even think of offering a new for sail with out a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty. This is the cost of entry. That said, the demand for new cars and competition is driving this behavior. When we look at RV's the lack of engineering and fit and finish is laughable. Why is this the case? When we look at any new car, the complexity and engineering is all about chasing the market (1567 Billion - 2023) which is huge. When we look at new RV's the market, around 31 billion (2022) is why we are where we are. What I find fascinating is the complete lack of channel infrastructure for RV sales as compared to Automotive OEM because there is no market for it and no agency protection laws.
It all goes back to supply and demand and the stagnation of the RV market. When we see independents being bought by "majors" that is all about buying market share which may be problematic based on the anti-trust laws. Any consolation hurts competition, full stop.
I'm in the market for an RV and I am looking of by a quality product, but I soon realized I need to lower my expectation because the market today is tolerating junk. This is a fact. The notion that there are 5th wheel frame issues, and nonsensical plumbing issues and these manufactures has not been subject to a class action suits is interesting to say the least. Any company knowingly building a sub-standard product supplied to an OEM builder, because they are thinking their OEM customer may indemnify them is also interesting. This bean counter mentality (we built it because our customer paid lots of money to build it even though we know is was not structurally sound) is always problematic.
In the limit it's always supply and demand. Im my case an RV OEM says we are them best, I would expect them to prove it and put their money (warranty) where their mouth is. If they built a quality product then a three year performance warranty should be easy.
Great video. Hope you do more with the guys.
The Rv industry is like any other industry…my first Maytag was a 20 year old machine that lasted another 15 years. You can hardly get a machine that lasts 5 years now. Our first TT was a 2001 Dutchman sport we bought used. It was built like a fortress and we loved it and kept it 7 years until we outgrew it. We then purchased a new 2015 Jayco Jayfeather. It was beautiful and we’ve kept it 10 years but there are huge differences in quality. I understand they trying to make them much more light weight and appealing decor on the inside, but it does seem just like appliance industry..much cheaper quality, much prettier, more expensive than ever but basically disposable.
We’ve found a floor plan we love from KZ. I would love to get your reviews of KZ 5th wheels. I haven’t seen hardly any reviews of the quality of the Durango. We’re looking to purchase one to do some full time RVing. I am very impressed with KZ because the floor plan they came up with for 2025 is something I specifically requested and they listened!
Speed Queen
Great show. Just too long. Maybe, break it down to at least two 1 hour segments.
@@reneleroux2661 just at 1.25 speed.
Will we actually see JD?
Looks like we get to see his backside.
nomadic Movement You tube channel bought a $150k Airstream and had nothing but problems with it on a trip around the US. I’m not sure is airstream is the quality people think it is.
I’m from Florida 😊
Yes!!!!
What is a PDI??
Pre delivery inspection