34067 Tangmere at full speed through Lancaster! | The Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express | 10/2/24
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- Today’s video is of SR Unrebuilt Battle of Britain Class Light Pacific 4-6-2 34067 Tangmere on the Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express promoted by Railway Touring Company and operated by West Coast Railways. The tour originated at Manchester Piccadilly, travelling via Manchester Oxford Road, Wigan North Western, Preston and up the WCML to terminate at Carlisle. After a short break, the train returned to Manchester via the S&C, Preston (where the steam was planned to come off) and continuing via the outward route. The advantage of chasing this train is that it’s steam hauled for a larger proportion of its journey than the WCMEs that originate at London, so there’s potential for more shots. Weather forecasts for the day weren't very positive beforehand but the weather was quite kind to us which made for a nice change. Also, due to WCR's Central Door Locking issue, they're still making use of their Mk.2s which necessitates the use of an air brake compatible locomotive, the only ones available currently being 34067 and 44871.
I headed out from my local at 6:41, arriving in Carlisle for an Avanti service southwards. Alighting at Lancaster, I took a position on Platform 4 with a good view of the approaching through road. 34067 came absolutely rocketing through, smoking out the station and leaving us impressed. Here I met @themodster and @EHSteamVideos so great to see you both! After this we headed to Oxenholme, where sadly a too low pressure water pump at Carnforth meant she passed us nearly an hour late, still putting on a very impressive show. My plan was to then follow her to Carlisle, getting her leaving before going back down the WCML to Pleasington. I did manage to see her very slippy departure from Carlisle, before I took a Transpennine service back to Preston. Sadly here some news filtered in that due to the late running, 34067 had been taken off the train at Hellifield meaning there was no chance of a 4th shot. In hindsight I'd have liked to try out Armathwaite or Garsdale rather than a Carlisle departure shot, but I wasn't to know that Pleasington wouldn't be possible. I therefore took an Avanti service back top Carlisle, and back home via Newcastle to end a very enjoyable day out!
I hope you enjoy this video as much as I enjoyed making it!
Still 20 short of how fast they ran on the main line in steam days. Flying machines. Great video. JG.
I know right! I'd love to see more steam runs cleared at 90mph but it's very costly to do. Thank you very much! Regards, Dan
There's giving it the beans and then there's that!
Very well executed pan at Lancaster given the speed and perfect vantage at Oxenholme!
Cheers
Aadil
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed the camerawork and yes she certainly was tanking through Lancaster. Regards, Dan
Absolutely stunning footage mate! Tangmere's a favourite of mine, and I'm not able to see her very often. This more than made up for it. Keep up the good work!
Many thanks! Tangmere is certainly a unique locomotive and sadly rarely operates outside the North West so it was good to see her. I'm glad to have compensated for that!! Thank you very much! Regards, Dan
Great. Thanks for the memory
My pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Regards, Dan
Very well controlled wheel-slip, a characteristic of the Class, at which the driver must get regular practice and has now got down to a fine art. A very impressive locomotive and very well filmed. Thank you.
Thank you very much! And yes the driver deserves a lot of praise for handling a locomotive so prone to slips like that. Regards, Dan
Lovely video, thank you for sharing. ❤
You are so welcome! Thank you very much for the comment. Regards, Dan
Great footage, many thanks.
Many thanks, I'm really glad you enjoyed! Regards, Dan
Didn't realise a Southern loco could go that fast. Epic!!
I'm a Great Western man but credit where credit's due, in the last days of steam on the mainline in the late 60's Southern engines frequently ran in the high 90's, their crews wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, which I'd say they managed.
Read somewhere that they topped out at 105mph.
Merchant Navies were no slouches either!
We clocked one approaching East Croydon at 104mph on the four track going to a Schoolboy Exhibition with eleven coaches on. We were travelling in a Pull/Pan unit and flat out as it overtook us off the Littlehampton line. Drivers were not scared to break rules at that late stage of steam.@@r.h.8754
Haha I was surprised myself! I'm a GWR man but she did impress. I heard the maximum recorded for Merchant Navies was around 105 and it's great to hear stories about them! Thank you very much. Regards, Dan
Super shots ! 👍
Thank you very much! Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043 You're welcome !
Beauty 😊
Haha indeed! Regards, Dan
Fantastic!
Grazie tante! Saluti, Dan
Very nice! Lancaster is always a good shot!
Thank you very much! Lancaster is a lovely shot but for some reason every time I've tried it it's been a bit rubbish lol. I'm very glad I've finally made up for the rubbish ones. Regards, Dan
Great video :)
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you! Regards, Dan
I was born in Lancaster ( in 1943) in a house next to the line from Castle Station to Green Ayre. I just wish all my photos from back in the 1950/60 were on film/video. Not much has change at Castle Station, as it was called, but your excellent clips, despite the crowd, bring back all those memories. Thanks; Mike now in S/Wales
Thanks for sharing your memories, I'm very glad to have brought them back to you! I'm very thankful to the organisations and individuals who ensure these beasts' continued operation well beyond their predicted lifespan. Regards, Dan
Great video! She was really going for it at Lancaster! Saw it at Manchester Piccadily 👍
Thank you very much, yes she really was moving! I hope it was good at Manchester. Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043 she was splendid at Manchester thanks!
Very nice and I got to look inside the cab of the train at Preston and my video of that train will be out in around 25 mins!
Haha that's great, I hope you enjoyed it! I'll take a look at your video now. Regards, Dan
I well remember, as a child, standing on Paddock Wood station platform waiting for the Tunbridge Wells train, hearing the Night Mail, and Golden Arrow whistles screaming as they raced flat out through the vibrating station. Often, the Night Mail had a west Country piloted by an L1 with 14 or 15 heavy Wagon Lit's sleepers and a few bogie parcel vans. Those were the days!
That sounds incredible, thank you for sharing! It's amazing we still get to witness scenes like this in the 21st Century. Regards, Dan
Superb. A Spam Can at full chat. Great stuff!🙂👍
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Regards, Dan
Who ever the footplate crew are they certainly know how to get the best performance out of this old girl 👍🏻😄
Absolutely! She has performed very well when I've been out seeing her lately. Regards, Dan
Wonderful video Dan I thought about going to see her on her run to Manchester but a tad early and it would be in the dark so I stayed in bed😂😂 She certainly looked good and going a bit as well great work Dan.
Hahah I don't blame you lol! Yes she looked great and going brilliantly through Lancaster. Regards, Dan
Superb example of BFB wheel slippage - but well controlled by an experienced driver!
Absolutely, the class are very renowned for slipping but the driver certainly had a good handle on it. Regards, Dan
abs fantastic
Thank you very much!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Regards, Dan
Great video. What was the purpose of the diesel at the rear? You could hear it's engine was running.
Thank you very much! Yes its engine was running although I don't think it was giving much, if any assistance on that day. Diesels have a variety of uses, that being assistance with turning moves, mitigation of fire risk, providing heating to coaches and warranty against locomotive failures. However, the main reason this one was on the train was to provide power to the coaches. Having said that, it'd be nice to see fewer diesels on steam railtours. Regards, Dan
Brilliant to see a steam loco at full flight, But sad to see a diesel at the back!
Thank you very much, yes it's always a pleasure to witness steam at speed, although I gree with your point about the diesel. Regards, Dan
nicee🎉🎉🎉
Thanks so much 🤗!! Regards, Dan
Proficient Panning Provides Perfection Personified.👍
Boom! What a sentence lol! Thank you very much for your kind words, I'm very glad you enjoyed it! Regards, Dan
0:45 Impressive through Lancaster. Shame about the hideous “here he comes” excitement.
Thank you, very impressive at Lancaster and yes, the man on Oxenholme platform was a little out of control but nothing you can do. Regards, Dan
That loco is gonna be used again on the 24th of February railtour which I will soon see a diesel loco headed that tour for the morning
That's it Scott. If you're seeing it in the morning you could chase it North. You'd get loads of shots. Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043I can’t chase it up north because I’m a Brummie not a northerner
0:55 I can hear someone in the background saying about that loco coming
Yes Scott, the man on the platform was shouting as it came through. Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043ah yeah so that’s a bloke Dan that was saying that
he's Captain Obvious
Please tell me why, in most of the steam locomotive videos I see, there is always a diesel banker.
The diesel serves a few purposes, firstly to help with turning moves, secondly to assist in times of fire risk or for banking, and thirdly to provide electricity and to heat the coaches. They are becoming more and more common sadly but because of those benefits it's easy to see why operating companies use them. Regards, Dan
This loco is working over the S&C tomoz I believe.
I think it was 44871 on that working but this week coming should be 34067. Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043 It was. I saw it very briefly.
Great video! But it looks like the days when the CME always tackled Shap and the S and C with just steam on the front are over. A diesel of whatever class pushing like mad from the rear, will never be the same.
Come on WCRC, get your mk1s compliant for us travelling enthusiasts. We all hate sealed mk2s. Could be on a modern train. No sound, smell or atmosphere. What's the point?
Thank you very much! And yes, with the new Mk2 rake the diesel is sadly a necessity, and they seem to go overboard on the diesel sometimes. Hopefully once the Mk1s are back the diesels will stay in Carnforth. I am also in agreement on your point about sealed Mk2s, LSL do the same. Regards, Dan
Time for a bowl of Crunchy Nut Steam Cornflakes, lol.
Haha I hope you enjoyed it! Regards, Dan
Wow look at that sardine tin spin!
Spam can in br days
She certainly did have quite a slippy departure! Regards, Dan
Hi ,Great filming .....Dave 😄👍👍👍🚂🚃
Many thanks! I'm glad you liked it. Regards, Dan
Is it me, or has Tangmere's exhaust beat got harsher and louder? Not a smooth and even as usual.
It's to compensate for those Aircon carriages which deaden the external sound...let's hope they sort out the MK1s before too long!😂
I probably don't see enough of her to comment, but I know since her overhaul in 2022 she's got the boiler of a classmate. Don't know if that would have anything to do with it? Regards, Dan
Haha yes, I'll be sure it's welcome to the poor passengers who can't hear it lol! Regards, Dan
Oh. So you’re filming tangmere again? Well I haven’t got any money so I’ll just have to watch your video
Haha lol. I'm glad my video was a suitable substitute. Regards, Dan
@@crunchynutsteamfilms5043 yeah it was alright. I’ll have to wait until i get my universal credit until I can go and film something.
Tangmere with a fleet of ex Intercity MK1 coaches in West cost trains livery
They are Mk 2s. All WCRC Mk1s are currently banned from the network
That's it, although those aren't Mk1s because they're sadly banned at the moment. Hopefully the CDL will e fitted soon. Regards, Dan
Not very sure footed on a start !!
Certainly not! It's quite common for the class. Regards, Dan
someone shut the 'boomer up, in the second scene
Haha it's a shame but can't be helped. Regards, Dan
Why on earth is that guy shouting his head off in the 2nd clip?! Stfu!!
People travel a long way to see these spectacles and invariably there's 1 douche who ruins the experience for everyone.
A genuine question, why on earth was he shouting? 🤔
That's a question I can't answer I'm afraid. He seemed very excited. Regards, Dan
Those greenhouse gases, these things need to be banned, NOW 😡
so where do you reckon electricity comes from? You think they should have a solar powered train in england?
@@camerong5513 I'm being sarcastic, it's all about klaus schwab and his ideals
Despite being myself an environmentalist of sorts, I disagree that steam locomotives should be banned. The coal that they use is not vastly worse than current diesel powered units which are in existence network - wide, and thus are said to be responsible for a tiny 0.04% of total UK carbon emissions. This is despite the transport sector at large being responsible for 28% of UK emissions. The proper solution to this is hydrogen technology, electrification, limits on motor vehicles and many other things. Banning steam locomotives would result in a negligible gain for great cost to our history and culture. Regards, Dan