Is Tony Robbins a Fraud? | BuzzFeed Allegations & Bad Mental Health Advice
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This video attempts to answer the questions: Is Tony Robbins of fraud? Did Tony Robbins go too far in giving mental health advice? Does Tony Robbins believe that emotional abuse isn’t real? Tony Robbins is an extremely popular life coach who gives advice on a wide range of subjects including finance, physical fitness, mental health, and relationships. BuzzFeed news reported allegations from staff and customers indicating that Tony Robbins harassed and otherwise abused them. I offer a critical analysis of the allegations and of his role as a life coach versus the role of mental health professional.
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"The most important thing is honesty. Once you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx
I think you have just saved me from subscribing to another life coach
You have accurately described Tony Robbins. Rather than spent effort improving a skill or product, just spend effort faking your expertise.
Comedians are often funny because there insights are so true.
Hahaha
The line is faking sincerity not honesty. You got the spirit right though.
The secret to Tony's success is convincing others he has found the secret to success and selling them the books.
I bought some Tony Robins programs on audio (CD). they were very interesting to listen to and I guess entertaining. But it did not deliver on the promise to change my life as in reality there is no simple big secret to success but the marketing of his products often promises just that.
@Johnn Struss he totally adverts! You did not listen to his videos as sold all the time . Dude is a coach. BOOOO. He brags through adverts . I have no problem with dude cashing in on this. good for him! but to claim that YOU are successful because Tony coached you to be successful proves your ambivalence to reality. WHOMP whomp jealousy and envy is for lower energies.... but the whole idea that you posit in that one cannot see bs when its presented is...well.....laughable. go deeper. Robinson is a shill
@@phililpb And I'll bet the cost a small fortune. Once he has your money... that's the only goal.
@@macforme probably but there are a lot of other businesses like that
@@phililpb "Lots of businesses like that".... doesn't make it right. Promising to deliver customer satisfaction and then handing over less than what was paid for, is not a sustainable business model... UNLESS YOU ARE A CULT ...or have cult mentality. The leader can do not wrong, eh? Hope you are free of him now.
I’ve never seen a TH-camr trying so carefully to convey a fair presentation. Bravo
Yep he stands out this way, pleasantly conscientious
Definitely a sign of a real professional. Refreshing isn't it?
19 84 Dr. Grande is my newest celebrity boyfriend!
Dr. Grande is the voice of reason.
Yes I respect your fairness
Tony is successful because he promises hope and backs it up with a wallop of infectious charisma. He is tall, speaks with impressive enthusiasm and passion, and is superficially likable using self-deprecating humor. He really knows how to work a crowd to get them into an inspired state. Then 2 weeks later the participants wonder what it was all about once the spell has worn off.
Well said!
@Bible News Radio that's not the definition of a narcissist
If the spell lasts two whole weeks, that would be impressive! At two weeks, they got their money's worth.
2 weeks later they realized they just spent ALOT of money to be verbally abused and bullied. How does this keep happening?
Your description sounds awfully similar to Ted Bundy!!!
Hmmm.......
I actually went to one of his events and witnessed, in person, him telling a woman that she did not have post natal depression. She had a new baby and had considered suicide and despite being diagnosed with postnatal depression by an actual medical doctor, he basically told her to throw her meds away, she'd be right. This was where Tony Robbins and I parted company. Dangerous man with advice like that.
Exactly !! Now he is playing medical doctor. That poor woman. God, she should have saved her $$ and gotten treatment for post partum depression. Robbins is an asshole.
WHOA. that's scary.
Cheezuz. I hope that woman ended up ok.
woahhhhh he's like benny hinn then. :(
Lynnette Turner Omg that's criminal! It's illegal to practice medicine without a medical license. She should sue him!
I prefer life's unsung heroes. People who don't sell books or charge for weekend retreats. Moms, dads, teachers, farmers. ❤
Great comment! couldn't agree more.
What? You have a hard time imagining a person who really wants to help people, charging the $8k for a pep talk?
Teachers aren't unsung. They're overrated narcs whose 3 favorite things about teaching are:
June, July and August
Soldiers, Police Officers, Doctors, Firefighters.....
♥
The price of going to a Tony Robbins seminar tells you all you need to know about his motivation.
Lol Good point
His motivation is all about money
Of course. NOT. Once you have accumulated, say 10million, you're motivated to be on stage for 10 hours straight to fill your pockets/?
It’s basic supply and demand/economics. If there’s only 2000 seats available (supply) at a venue for an event and he knows 2000 people would be willing to spend a certain amount (demand) to see him, why would he choose to sell himself short and charge less than what people would be willing to pay for it? It’s a for profit business after all
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If it wasn't for the money, he wouldn't be charging USD 2,000 per person to attend his seminars. Some people take a loan or sell all their belongings a car and/or furniture to attend.
To me it is unconscionable. Not every attendee gets individual attention from T. Robbins. He also "employs" assistants to help him. Their day begins at 6am if I remember correctly and they work all day. He doesn't pay them a penny. He manages to convince suckers for whom he is a god-like figure to feel privileged to be in his presence and watch the seminar for free. ??!!
I have a friend who was so taken by Tony Robins that she signed up to volunteer. She was persistently trying to convince me to join her. Robins is fun to watch and the techniques he uses to reframe the thinking are impressive. It's a bit of a trick though because achieving a lasting change in unproductive thought patterns requires consistent daily practice until the new neural pathways are established.
You believe 10 million is enough for someone who is motivated by money?. It sure is not enough for Mr Gates and others like him. His much-publicised giving away his entire wealth did not eventuate. His "charitable" foundation is also income-producing. Remember M. Douglas's character Gekko? "Greed is good".
Look at Zelensky, Ukraine's President. Before the armed conflict with Russia, his net worth was 700 million USD. Now it's at least twice as much. More likely triple. Not from his salary, that's for sure. And still not enough. He continues to go around with his begging ball. His cabinet has even been appropriating humanitarian aid. The US cracked it but only because they were openly flaunting their wealth. Zelesky was ordered to sack them and one was arrested for stealing 400,000 USD from humanitarian aid. His, his family and his cabinet lifestyle is courtesy of the US and EU taxpayers. Who are getting poorer and poorer.
Poroshenko left when his 5 years term in office ended, with a cool 1.6 billion USD. While his country is probably the poorest in Europe. He was wanted by Ukraine's judiciary on embezzlement charges. The US ordered Zelensky to replace the judiciary, the charges vanished and his wealth spread over accounts in UK, EU, US, Canada and Switzerland, frozen due to pending charges, were fired for him to use about mid-2021.
"She told me I was an irresponsible loser. I replied that there's no evidence that I've ever been irresponsible." 😆 You've got a great sense of humor, Dr. Grande.
What about that time when you were 3.5 years old Eh ?
Yes!
Ans she is a professional social worker? I think not.
Ha Ha!...that reminded me of verbal battle I was engaged in over a CB radio when I was a truck driver..a big retired marine that many feared as he enjoyed bullying any one that spoke up to him...I was new at the company and really was an introvert but there was something intriguing about that CB radio and how I could use it..everyonehad a CB handle or name and I told them mine was Highlander...I envisioned myself like an actor on stage..as soon as he heard my voice he started taunting me.I admit my adversary was loud, mean and intimidating but as our battle jabbed and stabbed like daggers across the radio waves for several hours, I had to use my wit, sarcasm and sense of humor at the best of my ability because not only was he a bully, he was very smart...but somehow, I got to him and he said aloud, HIGHLANER, DON'T EVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN!!..YOU BEADY EYED MAGGOT!!
And I keyed up the mic and with a calm voice I said, My eyes aren't beady...a few months later we became friends.....my apologies to anyone that thought this was going to be a great story....just a triggered memory
These types get offended by reality and real data. They are luring ppl into a web of magical thinking and charging them at the make believe door.
I have found a lot of insight with Dr. Grande’s intro including the words: scientifically informed. This does not allow for their magical world to exist and they will rage, “narcissism”.
Basically anyone with a huge ego and unshakable confidence in themselves and a laser focus to be rich can be a motivational speaker. Goes for televangelists and car salesmen. Tony just happens to be very good at his craft
Back from the dead, eh? I read "The Cats of Ulthar" to my cat every night. She loves it
Let alone a huge head
Agree!
@@stephenhorne636 - COOL! Poetic justice.
Confidence and ego are actually complete opposites.
Thank you so much for doing this video! My husband suffers from depression and other things and really likes Tony Robbins, he encouraged me to check him out. I immediately did not like him. I was hopeful he would be amazing and make excellent points and help my husband. The only thing he helped was to encourage my husband to quit going to counseling 😔 it took 3 years to get him to admit he had some problems and get help. Tony Robbins needs to understand that some people really do need professional help. My husband did not will himself to be depressed, he is depressed. If he could help it he would. My heart breaks for him because of his suffering and TR has not helped.
I actually went to one of his events and witnessed, in person, him telling a woman that she did not have post natal depression. She had a new baby and had considered suicide and despite being diagnosed with postnatal depression by an actual medical doctor, he basically told her to throw her meds away, she'd be right. This was where Tony Robbins and I parted company. Dangerous man with advice like that.
@@Acetyl53 before meds a good number of them killed themselves. He is not qualified to make those statements or diagnose anyone. There may very well have been, as you suggest, a problem she needed to solve or it could have been a hormonal or chemical imbalance, which is not uncommon postpartum but again, a "motivational speaker" is not qualified to give such advice. And if you think he did the right thing in that situation then you're not all there yourself.
@@Acetyl53 How did people do what? They just stayed depressed. Some killed their kids. As some who aren't properly treated do today. I come from a 3rd world country where access to modern medicine and counseling is limited. It isn't pretty. Do you think people 200 years ago somehow dealt better with mental illness than they do today? LMBAO!
@@Acetyl53 I live in NY and have seen both sides. Do you want to know how mental illness is dealt with absent psychiatric care? As demon possession or some other bullshit. The mentally ill are either hidden away or ostracized. Stop yearning for a horrible past. It was shittier than the cheap novels you might have read.
@@Acetyl53 and after all you've said, Tony Robbins still should not be giving out medical advice. End of < that's an absolute.
I'm always instinctively cynical/cautious with charismatic people.
Me too!
We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are
Ha ha-right!
As well you should be
In academic debate and speech we called them "Gods' Children" because they could get up and read the phone book and grandmothers would cry. Or judges. They'd win and say NOTHING.
I met Tony Robins in 1982. I was suffering from bouts of anxiety, paranoia, and fear. What I did not know at the time, that this was a side affect from Chronic Pain. Back then Tony was performing "Fire Walks", walking barefoot on Hot Coals, to specifically overcome ones fears. Now this is an admirable intent, and I participated in the Fire Walk and did experience a temporary relief from the anquish I was experiencing, but it could not repair the cause of my psychological problems; a bent and twisted spine from 2 genetic curvatures in my spinal column.
After the Fire Walk, I hung around to observe Tony. He seemed to me to have an obssessive, relentless, positivity that appeared disingenuous. He never really looked anyone in the eyes for more than a few seconds and relies on his imposing physical stature, facial expressions, body movements and his incessant talking, (he appears to Never Shut Up) to convince someone he knows something special; he really doesn't.
Most of his ideas in his never ending verbal diarrhea can be found in all kinds of "self help" books going back to the late 1950's and 1960's. He has Nothing Unique or New to offer. It's all just Tony practicing his Grift in Monetizing individuals weaknesses, fears, self doubt, anxiety and uncertainties. Go to a Tony Robins' event and you're sure to get a Rush of Dopamine that will temporarily wash your troubles away, but there's always the Next Dopamine Fix, that only Tony can give you, and you'll pay big bucks to keep that Dopamine running.
In short, he's just another Grifter. I've been in Chronic Pain for 47 years. Statistically I should not be alive, but I'm still here, no thanks to Tony Robins.
Very well said! And yes there have been some people helped by him or maybe even a lot of them , as he’s been around now for about 30 years I think doing his thing.
But everything you said about the dopamine rush is Scientifically correct. The same thing people used to get from going to a Jim Rohn seminar, or for a Baptist weeklong revival retreat (Although different people are drawn to each of those things and the continent delivered is different).
That being said - the $10 investment I made in a paperback book in 1993 of Tonys “Awken the Giant Within” was well worth the money I paid at that time. It and entertained me through two different airport layovers, and I did reference certain chapters of it for years to come - but the main new idea in it but I actually honestly confess I never saw again later even in graduate school, but the whole chapter on using softer words euphemism for some emotions (rather than using the full common word/adjective) to modulate your responses accordingly (A spin of neurolinguistic programming). That was interesting and it has stuck with me for almost 30 years. That being said - that was the only money I actually spent on Tony Robbins so I’m probably not qualified to have a strong opinion on the cost versus value ratio of his more expensive programs.
I wanna say I appreciate how fair you are. You are clearly interested in education rather than persuasion.
I don't have any information about the allegations or even know what video you are discussing. It would have been helpful to play the videos.
In the early 90’s I had a job transcribing his seminars. This was my first introduction to Tony Robbins and I remember thinking how cult-like the presentations and activities sounded. Later my employer invited me to attend one of his seminars since he was given two free tickets. I was curious so I attended with him. After 30 minutes of people sharing their “personal” stories, we had enough and stood up to leave. To our surprise our exit was blocked at the door by a person claiming we were not allowed to leave. Luckily my employer wasn’t having it and we left.
Blocking the exits! Surely not legal let alone professional or humane? Very creepy.
Yes. I was given a free ticket by a therapist who thought he was a bit of a fraud. I found the ‘minders’ or ‘herders’ quite creepy and intimidating.
That is shocking- I'd be tempted to get my phone out and ask the name of the person refusing to let me leave as I was about to report a kidnapping!
Scary.
Kudos to you and your employer for sticking to your standards and getting the hell out of there
Tony Robbins is the secular equivalent of "Prosperity Gospel" evangelists.
Thank you. My best friend bought a $200+ program of his in the 90’s. I looked through the whole packet and what it boiled down to was a whole bunch of daily affirmations and a calendar. Thanks Tony, can get a calendar for 106 pennies at the Dollar Store 🙄
Exactly!
Well said.
I was just thinking that at 2:20mins
Da truff.
From my own personal experience having participated in his seminars, you are compelled to part with more and more money to essentially be brainwashed into either becoming a successful sociopath, or go mad trying. I nearly fell into the former,.but briefly suffered from the latter.
None of it is worth it.
Nicely written!
I KNOW😶
Thank you 🙏🏻 for sharing. It’s what I suspected all along. I do like his positivity.
I appreciate your comment. I suspect it will be countered by many who are totally convinced they were dramatically benefitted by Tony Robbins's workshops or books. I tend to agree with your blunt assessment, but I also allow for at least some people having truly life-changing experiences. I just don't think most of those benefits are due primarily to what Tony Robbins presented. The scam aspect is the continued appeal for more money for more seminars for more supposed benefits. See my lengthy commentary on the video and its analysis of the Tony Robbins approach posted on this same page. I'd be interested to know if it makes sense to you as someone who has been through the self-help guru's program.
Good to hear from an insider. The only thing I've seen are advertisements and figured as much. Occasionally, I hear about him being sued over his "burning coals" stunt where people were sent to the ER. That right there was enough for me to believe he's full of crap. Plus, I've never seen him with his mouth shut.
Somebody mentioned Joel Osteen. I would sometimes catch a minute of his sermons channel surfing. I used to call him "the friendliest grocery checker." He really had nothing to say, but he looked SO friendly when he said it.
Yep and try Kenneth Copland too. All occult based religion based to make you rich. The only people getting rich are those bleeding you.
He's the "religious " version of Tony Robbins.
I don't know when Olsteen came on the scene, but I first heard of him in the mid-2000's. This may sound weird (hear me out), but I think one of the other things that made Olsteen so appealing is that he was a good looking guy. He was handsome and could of looked like a celebrity/famous actor if you didn't know he was an teleevangelist.
@@billymarino4452 Billy I agree with you not only is he good looking and I'm old enough to be his mother but he also has a very humbling attitude and he you know he got his church because everybody expected him to be just like his dad and honestly he's not like his dad at all but he is kind tender humble although I do not believe at this time in the race that he preaches the true Gospel of Jesus Christ but his father did and his mother did and Joel is one of those whose wife is definitely very charismatic probably runs the household based on lots of rumors about her and just watching her and the way you know no way he rules the roost in his house LOL but people do respect someone who's very empathetic he's very kind he's very gentle he's very handsome he's very humble what's her not to like but as far as the Gospel of Jesus Christ he is not preaching the truth because he believes there are more than one way to get to heaven and according to the scripture and the faith of Jesus Christ there's only one way to heaven and that's through Christ himself through faith in his works true Faith but you believe he is who he says he is that's what's going to get you to heaven according to our belief and he's not preaching that even though he calls himself a born again Christian so he's a liar doesn't make him a very good Christian to me
It seems Olsteen started out humble enough but definitely changed as time went on so much so that I stopped seeing him as credible like I also once saw Joyce Meyer but they lose credibility when wealth becomes their god ... Kenneth Copeland ... yikes ... it amazes me why anyone would support him ... these mega churches are run by Satan... their is an evil agenda behind all their smiles and fake caring and chasing devils or being filled with spirit
By their fruits you will know them... Ghandi knew you can’t take it with you... for one thing... and gave us examples of true humility and caring and discipline and simplicity and showed true strength with passive resistance to oppression and racism thru fasting prayer and living close with the people he even spun his own cloth a d made his own clothes and took his turn cleaning the latrines ... he honored his wife and won freedom for his country
Tony Robbins always seemed like a man trapped in the early stages of becoming a Bond villian
bingo!...
Brilliant 😅
Fantastic analysis. Made my day!
Love this comment!
100%
"His net worth is about 482 million dollars." I had to rewind the video to find out if I was hearing correctly.
Geez, I think I need to get into the "life coaching" game lol.
u just need one thing AUDACITY. just keep practice and believe the BS you're spreading.
Amy Greenwood I'm not sure which makes more, his books or his "seminars"?
@@concerned1 Anything is Wisdom to an idiot that don't use logic and common sense.
@@concerned1 lol i don't know what stress, anxiety, depression look like, based on 2 lines of comments you figured me out. GTFO. Just because I don't have room in my life for sweet talker like him to take my money means I have a negative outlook on life. SMH
It’s too late, with social media every kid who has ever watched a Gary vee video, or an inspiration instagram clip on entrepreneurship, wants to be a life coach. Robbins got in on the game when it was relatively new (before social media, and cashed in on his height, frame, looks, and natural charisma. Humans naturally listen to and treat taller men as leaders, and Robbins looks like he could be in a Superman movie. I don’t think his followers realize how much of what they’re really paying for is due to being “deceived” in this way
I've had a number of life coaches over the years approach me offering their services. After interviewing them the one thing I saw that all of them had in common was that they couldn't get their own life together (e.g., failed careers, relationships, goals never met, etc.). For these reasons they opted for "life coaching" thinking that they can somehow help other people.
those who can't do - teach
they figure if they can get good enough to teach someone else - then maybe finally they can figure their own shit out
Back in the 80s, a friend of mine described a psych major looking over the new class schedule and saying to themselves, "I need that. I need that. Oh, I REALLY need that!"
Damaged Goods or Life Failure describe nearly every psychology student and counselor-in-training I've ever known. The number of life failures who actually become counselors is a lot less because it takes a lot of discipline to jump through all those hoops and eventually get your license to practice. That said, I've still known a few "licensed professionals" who were sorry excuses for human beings>
If you had a super Grandmother, you don't need a life coach.
@@MariaLopez-hc2nm
this, parents/grandparents were supposed to be your life coach,
where the hell did they all go for the last 2 generations?...
@@MariaLopez-hc2nm or common sense
I've never trusted motivational speakers with that high energy, super positive style. It just smacks of fake to me.
Yes
Me2
yeah, it's all either completely fake and contrived or completely obvious common-sense stuff. I mean if you allow them to, people will make money even off of lemonade, as easy as it is to just go home and make your own.
I like his style, it's obviously over the top, but I think it's funny haha. I found his stuff for free online 😉 it's actually quite helpful in the area of goal setting. It's straight forward stuff that helps you focus on improving your life.
But yeah, I'm sure there's times he's been coercive and his approach may not always be the best for some people of course.
The Professional Managerial class eats it up though. They are positivity cultists. Positivity keeps the value of stock up. Positivity allows you to pretend you don't hate working 80 hours a week as an undpaid intern. Positivity doesn't allow for criticism of how things are. Positivity tells you that you are doing the right thing, even when you aren't. Positivity perpetuates itself, so long as Capital grows at a positive rate.
it is not self-motivation. It is self-brainwashing. This is not about seeing the good in the bad. Its about seeing the bad as good.
I read Tony Robbins’ 1st book in my 20s & it significantly helped me. I later met my husband, who suffered from depression, was bipolar & unfortunately agressive. I naively thought Tony’s “positive” thinking could change him. This ended up being dangerous for me & a waste of valuable time for him. He desperately needed professional help. Tony needs a Disclaimer.
I don't think he claimed to cure mental illness. At least I never saw that.
Tony Robbins is really just a great salesman. Like all life coaches, his advice is quite unremarkable.
True true
Just a great salesman? Sure he’s a great salesman but adding the word “just” makes this sentence an oxymoron. The things that make him a great salesman are remarkable which is why what makes him distinct from other life coaches is his ability to scale his life coaching business unlike any other.
His advice is carbon copy mostly from other sources he’s read but the way he contextualizes it is very remarkable
I would probably disagree with this sentiment of 'just'. Yes he's a great salesman, but Robbins has dedicated his life to his work which extends far beyond the field of selling. In his early years he has consumed 100s of books worth of literature in psychology. His track record would also demonstrate that he delivers results.
Yes!
Absolutely true. Thank god I left toxic motivational world.
The very best life coaches I've ever had in my life were my grandparents. Skip the big name millionaires, talk to Grandma and Grandpa.
Yep!
And it's free!
All of my grandparents died before I was born so ... what then?
@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 Just talk to old people.
Grandparents can do more than a hundred Tony Robbins...
The difference between Tony Robins and a mental health professional is: with Tony it's all about Tony and how helpful he is; with a mental health professional it's all about the client and encouraging them to find they're own way to help themselves.
@@seeya101oliASWHDFIL no, it is not an exact science. and you have to find the therapist and therapeutic tract that works with you. that isnt easy
one of the hardest things is finding a therapist that you can be truly honest with.
and if you want to know how unscientific the therapy process is...just look at freud
freud couldnt believe the number of patients who came into him with stories about being molested by parents
so he created complexes for those people
he set back the therapeutic process by a hundred years doing that
his patients had been molested
he put his beliefs before the patient's actual experiences
@@seeya101oliASWHDFIL agree. If what they did worked they’d be out of a job. There are a lot of pathological types flying under the radar in “helping professions” and people with trauma histories now providing “trauma informed” counselling simply because they took 1 course in it. Their ego and emotions get triggered pretty badly if they NEED to have helped you, and you become “treatment resistant” pretty damn fast if you disagree on something.
Like a treatment you’ve tried already and it doesn’t work for you and maybe you’re the one who’s in the best position to know that about yourself actually.
Therapists remove Agency / locus of control … while claiming to educate you about it. AGENCY… is the equalizer.
When you’ve learned to listen to yourself first instead of giving benefit of the doubt to others - is precisely when you realise therapy is a scam and all about the therapist.
That is why psychiatrists are the only people qualified to diagnose mental illness… it takes effort to get a PHD.
I totally agree, that came through strongly to me when listening to him. Why does he always yell, probably to excite people and that's why people passionately and mindlessly defend him. Seems no different to any other charismatic sprouter to me.
@@seeya101oliASWHDFIL you generalized a lot. Depending on your diagnosis, you should seek for an advice from professionals that worked specifically with your diagnosis and nobody else. Professional therapists should call themselves general therapist most of the times and they are trash. On the other side, u have Tony which looks more like a Cult leader brainwashing his followers with too many false promises.
Very true
As someone who was previously employed by a company with very close ties to Tony and his ‘platinum’ members who spend an upwards of $40,000 to be apart of his scam network, YES. I worked as an executive assistant for the founder of said company..(I had to sign an NDA upon my hiring but I no longer care considering I cut ties with the company and resigned as I morally could not put up with it anymore) he was essentially a Junior Tony..
I dealt with Tony’s people on a regular basis. I didn’t know much about that kind of world so to speak but as soon as I was in it, I realized what an absolute fraud it was. It felt like a cult. It made me disgusted watching his Netflix special so I could learn more about what he does and what kind of “industry” I was working in… Seeing him essentially provoke a huge emotional response among the crowd while speaking to an individual and acting as if he cured them like some sort of magician. This man has no psychological training, nothing. He is a con artist, he is a scam artist. He has built extreme wealth on groupthink and manipulating a crowd who pays thousands to hear advice they can hear for free on TH-cam. Am I opinion, Tony is the definition of a snake oil salesman. I think he’s absolutely repulsive.
a part. not trying to be offensive. but this use of "apart" is becoming so common now in the internet. A lot of people think apart is the correct spelling. Apart means Not a Part. Just trying to help.
Two minutes of this guy & red flags waving .. absolutely a con
Thank you for saving me from spending the money I do not have. God bless you.
The thing is you reach a point in life when you think, hold on, is it the world or is it me ! And then it suddenly dawns on you, IT IS YOU ! You feel a bit dumb but then you realise the possibility. You can go from being played to being the player. Who you are and what you see affects how we see others. When we blame what is outside us we are giving away our power. Tony and his teachings are a tool, the are neither good nor bad. It really depends on what you want to do and who you are. I have no doubt he has good intentions but that is immaterial. It is up to the person to take responsibility for who they are and what they do. You are right I have seen alot of 'interesting' money propositions in these kind of workshops. But when you realise money is not the thing anyway, then it doesn't really matter. If someone thinks plastic bags are the answer to life and they are 'conning' you of them and you then spend a great deal of time arguing against them who s the greater fool ! Tony like all teachers and humans isn't perfect. He gives alot to feed people, sure sometimes he seems too wrapped up in the outer success but no on e know what he really experiences. What all the comments, particuarly the ones against Tony highlight is most people feel the world does stuff to us and is out of our control. We choose how to respond, we can have critical thinking and even better do meditation and then we are free !
@@loveblissman he's a charlatan period..u don't need to write ' War & Peace ' my friend
A very fair and unbiased assessment. This is why I love watching you so much!
Watch his travis walton take. You'll see plenty of totally unbalanced tripe.
@@wadeadams2775 On whose part? Grande's or Walton's?
He's always scared me, like most gurus do. I don't want to be controlled and manipulated like that. It feels suffocating.
I was never scared of such, but suffocating yes, very much
Remember Jimmy Jones? People listened to him because he was such a charismatic speaker and look what happened.
That thing with the abuse victim and the huge audience and the "uncles" goes beyond the mere sinister. It's a violation of someone's vulnerability and it makes my flesh crawl. It's abuse, it's chilling and it can only be retraumatising. It makes me wonder what's really going on with him, and not in a good way.
He found a way to get rich.
Pet Human as an child abuse victim I will tell you even mentioning this incident gives me PTSD trigger issues! So horrible. How dare he?! He used that person for his own glorification! She should have sued the crap outa him.
He was a victim of serious abuse by his alcoholic mother, complicated by multiple men coming and going through her relationships.
And there are ways to resolve that kind of trauma, but it is pretty clear to me that he has largely papered over it instead.
I agree. He's very overbearing and manipulative. I can't watch him or listen to him.
He is a malignant narcissist , gets off on power !
He seems to care a great deal about people...whose checks clear. (edit: I was referring to Tony Robbins, not Dr Grande. Sorry if that was not clear.)
😂
@Henry Discipline I think both spellings are allowed.
@@crotchy7667 I think an understanding of whose (possessive) and who's (interrogative) is nescessary here.
Whose cheque book is that? Who's writing the cheques?
Who owns it vs. Who is writing it.
@@orestes1984 D'oh! You beat me to it.
Good one!!!
Dr. Grande, your uploads are a master class in how to analyze any situation, a very valuable contribution in our current environment.
So true..!
Totally agree.
I often notice thinking skills that exist with a deficit. I agree with you 100%.
Completely agree.
I couldn't agree more! Dr. Grande is grand.
He’s an extraordinarily successful conman…I’m amazed that millions of people believe that he has helped them…
Imagine believing Buzzfeed on anything, not like they've totally disgraced themselves
I had rather watch and listen to you, Dr. Grande.
Tim Ferris is more or less in the same boat. He can work such a short week because he has other people doing all the work for him, not because he's so efficient.
Cult leader
Yes Tony Robbins is a con man but he's not even in the league of Elon Musk who might go down as the biggest con man in the history of the world. Tesla cars are garbage and the stock is overvalued by 1 trillion dollars but he's the richest man on the planet.
Here's what Tony Robbins knows ; A Fool and His Money are Soon Parted .
Yep. Isn't it obvious? It is to me, but I guess there's a fool born every minute. Trump is in the same league, Joel Osteen, etc. Con men.
_One who farts in church sits in his own pew_
He is a Con. My GF got pulled in by hm & his Cult. Worked and traveled constantly for him, she had a small child that she never saw. when it came topaying her rent or supporting her child she never saw the amount of money promised!! That group is a lot like the Scientologists.
Bingo.
ssn0651 - ALSO... A Pool and His Money are Soon Farted.
"What other kind of naked is there?" - Dr. Grande
I can't stop laughing!!!
And the perplexed look on his face when he says it-😆😆😆
My first impression of Tony was con artist, and I haven't seen anything since from him that makes me think otherwise.
Same here, Kira.
Same! He’s a creep
Are you guys woke AF? It that why personal responsibility is repulsive
@@Someguyorgirlfulness You sound like a narcissist, and are a fan of Tony. That doesn't reflect well on either of you.
@@kirabarsmith9353 interesting projection, from so few words from me you think you can judge someone else accurately? I think the only person that reflects poorly is the person in your mirror.
The people who I've met in my life who were truly life coaches( and honestly helpful) never asked for a dime and "coach" people out of the kindness of their hearts.
@Johnn Struss Yeah, I heard you the first time. I will repeat my comment to you again: you sound bitter and angry.
I've never gotten much good information out of free stuff, myself esp. free books and free courses.
when the internet exists, 99% of solutions are already free (because if its really good someone probably pirated it already LOL)
if there is "seriously good" information locked behind a paywall ... it's probably a scam
Wow yes I highly agree with this.
@@davida.4933
Free advice is worth every penny you paid for it.
In the early 90’s my father bought his tapes and asked me sit down and listen to them. Well I lasted 5 mins. When he said, “ Everyone on this planet has an equal opportunity to succeed “, I was done. At the time I was sponsoring 8 Indian girls through World Vision and my determination of him was he’s just a conman, spreading misinformation and profiting massively from it.
Yeah, "this planet" because he has volumes of planets where his Bee Ess doesn't fly.
@Leonard Maltin Gae I sponsored over 30 girls in India over a 15 year period.
@@boeingdriver29 that’s wonderful. How are they doing now?
@@LilyGazou it was 15 -25 years ago now and their all grown up. Most became wives and mothers, some became teachers and some I have no idea about. I have now turned my attention to other charities mainly the Make a Wish Foundation and the Royal Flying Doctor Service.
@@boeingdriver29 bless your kind heart.
I know someone who worked for Tony. They explained how condescending he is, doesn't believe 90% of what he says himself, and is all about getting a paycheck.
I also know someone who worked for him for some time and used to put that on their resumé. They essentially said the same thing as your friend - that he doesn't agree with his own words. They also said he was hard to deal with - a toxic work environment, he mostly got others to do everything like coming up with ideas, that he really is just mostly the showman in a big cult.
@@je6642 Big clue it's a cult (though a secular one- like how NXVIM was - I know I misspelled it) when they keep making you take and pushing more and more expensive seminars on you !
Yep seems about right.
I have never worked for Tony and I can tell you simply by what he charges per ticket that he’s “all about getting a paycheck.” If he wanted to help people who actually NEED help, he wouldn’t be charging prices the majority of the population of this country can’t afford.
Sounds like a narcissist. .
I once followed Tony. I ended up with burnt feet and an empty wallet.
😝
That's what's gonna happen if you follow these fake people
I’m NOT a fan but know people who have been helped tremendously by Tony. Especially when they did the firewalk.
feats like that can be painful
Why burnt feet?
He has a video on YT that shows him counseling a young woman who was sexually assaulted by her father. Tony said she has to forgive him because he was trying to find love. I was truly disturbed by that. I have seen him refer to women that claimed to be in abusive relationships as b*tches. I think he has deep rooted issues with women.
Not an unusual conclusion with Life Coaches, priests, high end athletic coaches, TV evangelists, Presidents .... ad infinitum.
He was trying to find love???? WTF???????????
He has mommy issues.
You are so Calm and level headed. I need you as my therapist
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Yes. I need s therapist like this.
I was mystified by Tony Robbins’ extreme wealth and success in persuading millions of people to pay him thousands of dollars. I watched two of his sessions with unhappy wives. I was shocked by the way he attacked these women already suffering from marital woes. Tony totally blamed these wives and considered their husbands blameless. I began to think he was hostile toward women because he was raised by an abusive, alcoholic mother. I expected him to be empathetic and encouraging but I didn’t see him portray these characteristics. I still don’t know why people treat him like he is a savior or god.
Brenda, In life we have weak and/or strong confident people. And the strong will always take advantage of the weak. And that's what T.R. does to gain everything he's ever wished for, but without having the genuine credentials.
You know there was once a great Herbalist in France called Maurice Messegue. And all his life he fought (legally) against quacks and charlatans.
And I don't ever remember him charging any of his patients thousands of dollars. In fact many times he gave free treatments.
Now that's the difference between a genuine soul and a charlatan.
If I'm not mistaken based on the research I have done he had an affair on his own wife. Have you read the same thing?
Random comment. I have two sisters. One named Brenda and one named Cook. 😁 Your name caught my eye.
Haven’t seen the video but what if it was their fault? You can’t just defend women because they’re women right?
There is this thing in the Bible.... Many will be scandalized and brought before judges.... And will be Confused by people that scandalize people looking out for our interest or humanity's interest. All money is not equal therefore even people like Bill Cosby could be innocent so, so let's pray for both our mentors and our enemies...
He screwed a good friend of mine out of $10K payment for graphic design services, around 30 years ago. My friend is an excellent, successful graphic designer, who is also a small, independent contractor. This was very unkool and dishonest.
$10k 30 years ago is a lot of money
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 it is still a lot of money.
B s 🤪
dont expect anything from a stanst
Job 21:17 How oft is the candle of the wicked put out! and how oft cometh their destruction upon them! [God] distributeth sorrows in his anger
I remember Tony's Personal Power infomercials from back in the day. Even started listening to the program when I checked it out from the library. (That's right, I got it FREE, Tony...suck on that!) Years later, I discovered/dabbled in some NLP with a friend of mine, and realized that's all Tony was really doing. That same friend took Tony's 3 day seminar, and when he came back he said "DUDE, I swear to god, I just spent 3 days, jumping up and down, getting hypnotize to buy more books and seminars!"
3:10 Your dry sense of humour is off the charts. Love it :)
My ex girlfriend was a big fan of him. All I saw in him was a bully who's full of himself and is more than happy to take money of those in trouble
Yes
That was a red flag with your ex. I would have left her just for that reason
@@rogermoore27 😁😁😁😁😁😁Yup.
@@rogermoore27 Are you James Bond?
@@justinedse3314 not at the moment...
I get a weird "cult" vibe from Tony. I'll never expose myself to his ideology.
I'm sorry to ask, please don't be offended, but is it because you are woke?
@@Someguyorgirlfulness I doubt it. I really don't like that term "woke" especially how it is used today to insult people. It usually means "I am alert and aware and your just a blind sleepy sheep." I find that kind of arrogance disgusting.
@@Robert08010 I just find that woke people hate taking the ownus of responsibility within themselves, they externalise their problems (i.e. sexism, racism, .... etc) and cancel anyone who suggests that you can help yourself more if take responsibility for changing what you can within yourself to change externally, hence all the SJW snowflakes in 2021
@@Someguyorgirlfulness I'm not sure if I followed that but I generally don't have any respect for anyone who uses the term "woke". To me, its just a bullshit word that means nothing. It only means something in their minds. Its a false claim of being "special". Just listen to flat earthers for example. They all claim to be "woke". That pretty much tells me whatever the fuck it means, it not anything I want to be. "Woke" = highly deluded.
I agree totally, but as much as I would like to believe it's a bullshit word that means nothing, it's definitely a real word that has been reappropriated. But they're definitely deluded that's for sure.... 😬
An acquaintance of many years ago told me she was a victim of Robbins. His name casually came up in a group conversation at a reception; the acquaintance became visibly upset, went white, started shaking & left the conversation. I went over to her and asked if she was ok; she was hyperventilating. When more normal breathing returned, out poured the most awful report of how she sought Robbins help at a vulnerable time, how he tricked her into giving the contents of her bank account on the promise if emotional & psychological help only then to trick her further into an intimate relationship though she didn't know it was just an affair at the time. I barely knew the woman and had zero interest in or connection to Robbins but I believed every word she said. This was a decade or more before other reports finally surfaced.
Was this "affair" with Tony?
Been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now & I have to say, a balanced, rational and calm opinion is so damn refreshing, especially online.
Cheers mate.
My partner was watching Tony and I joined him, interested as to why he liked him. A woman in the crowd said her daughter died and she was struggling to cope. He screamed and swore at her to 'get over it' and stop using it as an excuse to basically be a loser. So yeah, not a big fan here.
I think Tony truly wants to help people, but I also think he's completely out of his mind. I have heard so many stories like the one you just shared, where he uses shock tactics and covert hypnosis to try to jolt people out of their trauma. The problem, is that there is always going a portion of the population who is susceptible to these techniques and do seemingly recover. These miracle cases are used as testimonials and "evidence" that Tony Robbin's method's work, even if it only works on 1 out of 100. It's called survivorship bias.
Based on another answer above, not very nice to women?
Well maybe she did need to get over it.
Wow, can't believe he actually said that to a grieving mother -_-
@@jonredd650 I don't think you just "get over" the grief of losing your own daughter. I've never experienced that pain, but I've suffured a lot and let tell you, you don't just get over things. Healing can be long and difficult. Having a fake ass guru scream at you doesn't help. At all.
I spent four days at one of his “events “, believe me, it’s a cult of sorts
that's why it's four days. cults have done that for hundreds of years.
I went to the four day. It was not all bad. Not worth the money. I did walk on hot coals
Yeah 4 days should be a red flag. You can't motivate someone into fixing something that's complex and takes time.
All hat and no cattle.
@@kristin1533 I have no idea what that means, but I like it. I am now your lone subscriber. Make me proud!
I met the guy at his first wedding in Torrey Pines, and I am aware of an affair he had with a female client while engaged. So, I am not impressed. My view of Tony is that he is a narcissist, and hypocrite. The fact that he is financially successful doesn’t impress me.
Exactly, people most of the world is very easy to manipulate so they fall for his very narcissistic word salad.
Ofcourse he is a narcissist. One look at him is enough to know it. I don't get person who would try to marry him. He can marry for kids or to appear sucessful and normal..but he has man whore written all over his face. Those kind of persons are only good for an affair. Not for a comitted relationship.
"There's no evidence I've ever been irresponsible" is the most savage wholesome comeback I've ever heard in my entire life. I love it.
I was going to say the same thing, but you said it first.
Perfect retort!
It's because he has meticulously removed all the evidence.
I don't get it
I'm going to steal it
I so appreciate your balanced approach to all your videos. You are so professional, calm and able to show both sides..... I am in the mental health world and feel strongly people need to stay in their professional lane. A life coach doesn’t make a mental health professional.
I was amazed when someone recommended Tony Robbins. It was bizarre to watch. How could anyone not see through him? How? Neither smart, insightful, nor empathetic. Anyway, out of respect, I tried to watch. Was the most tedious 30 minutes of my life.
Omg hilarious 🤣
I have tried watching his videos several times but couldn’t even listen for 5 minutes. Too much energy for me, very disturbing.
I barely made it to the end the few videos i watched here halfway through was enough very boring.
Lol
@@carolynbridgeman5981 Can't he be legally prosecuted/sued too for giving medical advice in such a public way but not having a license to do so - practicing without a license?
I don't think there's a single person on the planet who would ever accuse you of being unbalanced Dr Grande, I think you're the best. Lots of love from across the pond 🇬🇧
19:39 "Depression isn't something that can be wished away with positive thinking"- thanks for saying that. Just recently an old friend from Elementary School commited suicide. He was depressive for some years, even in an institution for a certain time. He broke off psychotherapy 12 months ago, thinking "I have it under control". Fact is, he read some "positive thinking" books and listened to some meditative positive affirmation tapes and thought that would help him more than medication and therapy. He was only 49 years old, leaving a wife and three children aged 8,11 and 14 behind.
Thanks for sharing this story.. it can really help someone with depression who is thinking of replacing medication and therapy with just self-help, positive thinking books & courses ... and save a great deal of their time spent in trial and error.. I have a friend in a similar situation.. it's advisable to use 'positive thinking stuff' with some caution... without expecting quick results.
Positive while good isn't going to change the biological component of depression and other mental health disorders- nope. Tony's kind of putting the blame on people for having a sickness- mental disorders are just as real as physical disorders.
Sorry you lost your friend. It must have been devastating for his family. I still think about a friend of mine who committed suicide back in the late 70's. I wanted her to get professional help but she resisted and tried to take care of things by herself.
Thx for your story...I'm sorry... Yes, much depression is biological in nature, functional magnetic resonance imaging can show lots .... Medical doctor MD pyschiatric care should always be consulted if suicidal red flags are showing...we know more day by day
If someone needs therapy, there is no substitute. Not positive thinking, not affirmations, not religion, not 12-Step groups, not meditation. That's like taking your car to a woo-woo guru instead of a mechanic.
I've recently been thinking of Tony Robbins one point of my life I started watching his videos but noticed I would only get a short burst of motivation like he would just hype me up but in the end did absolutely nothing
"There's no evidence I've ever been irresponsible" hahaha I'm stealing that one! Love your humour Dr. Grande 😂
martini, "avec" onion and olive. shaken. I almost missed that.
I didn't get it not gonna lie
But why is it funny that there is evidence he’s a loser? Did I miss it?
It’s important to note, Tony Robbins and people like him are basically entertainment personalities. Anyone who gets pulled into the hero worship of motivational speakers are often vulnerable people or people who like to be entertained. It’s ironic that people with legitimate degrees and licenses are more feasible and qualified to counsel people, and they are held to a strict standard. Yet someone who is a celebrity type with no formal training or license has the freedom to advise and counsel people. This type of entertainment personality have such intense influence is dangerous! Thanks for your posting! Much needed!
If people think he changed their life after paying for a 5000-8000$ for a flashy pep rally it's because they are too embarrassed to say he gives the same life skills & feeling as a large Starbucks coffee & some good music. I find him speaking down to women as well ,a real creep in my book.
For that kind of money a person could take a decent vacation to a really pleasant spot. This in itself has *true* life-changing potential. 🐯
Hot bath & martini then a mid strength morning coffee here!
Just saved myself 5k LOL
Is that what his seminar costs?? My god!!!!
Blaze Fairchild His delivery is often corny and cringey. But I say this with no hesitation: When I did his '30 day personal power' audio program in 1995, I went from quite seriously depressed to not depressed at all. And I would say it has had at least some positive impact on my life ever since. In fact, as I write this, I am remembering several Robbins concepts that I use to this very day.
If anyone could change someone's life, then that person would be so inundated, they wouldn't survive the endless calls, emails, etc. No one can change someone else. We can only help ourselves. There would be no such thing as depression, anxiety, personality disorders, mood disorders, etc. if one person could solve/fix it.
You're my fave. You don't seek clout like other TH-cam therapists and some Dr.s; this includes women. You shoot straight and I love it when you incorporate your humor. You have literally earned every sub you have being honest & using your knowledge. 👍🏻
"simplistic solutions to complex problems" thank you for this insight D. Todd, that's my issue with Tony Robins now. I am not certified but working with mental health experts to provide them resources and funding, and I can tell you the methods Robins does on stage openly with emotionally and mentally hurt people are disturbing and absolutely terrible.
If you had mental illness, yes, they are a big problem. But having just depression (without getting drugs), feel inferior, incapable of trying to reach your goals, or similar, those issues are very easy and simple to solve. You can fix them in no time.
I believe that guy was focused on those mental obstacles
getting an emotional rise out of people
can make said people feel like their problems have disappeared .... who knew
kind of like having some ice cream or listening to good music
except these 2 things don't cost a fortune
Lol, you're obviously not very qualified at judgement 🤪
@@mnmmnm8321 - I've seen you pop up throughout this thread, always with the same type of invalidating response supporting Tony Robbins - and aggressively unpleasant comments, too. Hmnm...
"Evidence that you have been irresponsible." You are hilarious. Kudos to you for keeping being willing to include both positive and negative and not just what support one point of view
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If you were going to create the exact opposite of Dr Grande, it would be Tony Robbins.
So true!
Yup-😁😂🤣😎
Tony Robbins always reminded me of Lurch from the Adams Family
OMG! I just said the same thing!!
His voice is awful 😝
Lol same.
YOU RANG...?
LOL
Dr. you are very fair. Folks can get star struck . Net worth does not measure character. Thanks Dr. 🌎🍀
I totally agree. Folks are too quick to conclude someone famous must be an expert. They get lazy when it is easy to follow sound bites vs digging into subject to make informed decisions.
Sue Brown I got asked out by a guy with a Lamborghini.. I think he was shocked that I wasn’t interested in another date . Money isn’t everything , money doesn’t by personality
i bet it was no sweat😉 .
I've seen him in a video bullying a woman. I can't stand him, he's a fraud. I can't believe people fall for his nonsense. He's a master manipulator.
Really? where?
evidence or it didn't happen
@@royp8804 I saw him bully a woman in person at his weekend event a few years ago. It made the news. A woman challenged his wrong-headed statements that women with sexual harassment allegations just want attention (one of his Vegas hotelier friends had just been publicly accused). He physically intimidated her, and it blew up and made the news. Surprise, surprise, a little bit later, and he's being accused of the same things.
@@christinahek oh yeah I saw that
And also it wasn't as big as a deal the news made it out to be I read into it
Just sjw bs that you guys spew out your asses
"Physically intimidated" that was a social experiment he has done with many people before
@@christinahek also the new allegations are fom buzzfeed
The same people who make which Shrek character are based on what your favorite jellies are
These people's words hold 0 power and all the metoo movement is doing is silencing actual rape cases by being bundled in with retards who got looked the wrong way on a bus
@@royp8804 I was actually in the arena. I was there for the entire event, the entire weekend, and also witnessed what happened in an event Facebook group after the incident where people complained and how those complaints were handled. My first-hand knowledge is not just what was shown on the news. You wanted to know where he bullied a woman. I've told you. As could be predicted by your original question, you just choose to see it differently and only through the lens of what you want to believe. Have fun with that willful disregard.🤣
I keep telling people who lump Joel Osteen in with the Grahams, Falwells that Osteen is just Tony Robbins with a bible.
I don't in why people knock Joel,.he is kind compassionate and always lifts my spirits,.he never claimed to be a life coach.. people are a bunch of haters
@@michaelalvarado7176 I used to like him but the incident involving not using his church as a flood shelter to allegedly keep the walls and new carpet clean and that it seems the majority of Christian pastors on TH-cam say that he is more of a spiritualist like Oprah than a biblical preacher.
“There is no evidence that I have ever been irresponsible”- You are so sharp-witted! 👌🏼😂 In regards to Tony Robins, not a fan at all.
Nonetheless, I think your criticism was excellent - fair and respectful.
Thank you Dr. Grande!
I don't get it. Explain?
Eric Mohn - So the colleague said: “If you say anything positive about Tony Robbins then you are an irresponsible loser.” Dr. Grande’s response is: “There is no evidence that I have ever been irresponsible.”
Well how about loser? He left that out which implies maybe he was??
Basically he is being very modest and humble, while at the same time “calling her out” in a way but without being offensive. As such, disarming her. But what makes it so brilliant it’s because the line is short, graceful, dignified, intelligent and modest all at once. The timing and quickness of it is memorable.
He is indeed so intelligent. His IQ level must be 4 standard deviations from the mean.
Rejane Oliveira I am assuming that you meant above the mean.
Haha it was funny noone has never been irresponsible.
LOL.
“There’s no evidence that I’ve ever been irresponsible.”.
J. Holan sorry I don’t get it can you please explain?
Patrick Reilly lol went right over my head but I get it, thank you for the explanation 😬
#therapistjokes
Yes, I love this guy
Kinda wish I knew the name of that social worker, so i can make sure never to go to her.
By watching Dr. Grande’s videos daily, I learn how to be fair like him. Thank you doctor. You are awesome 🎓.
Never was interested in him. Seemed narcissistic and superior....and almost like an evangelist (or carnival wo
rker). When they're doing their spiel trying to persuade you into their realm...(barking out his beliefs). He just turns me off!
You're showing the signs of being immune to Gas-lighting. :)
@@IbnBahtuta Thank you for your comment. Cheers!🌷🙋
@leila lalala 👇👏😉
Blue Is I’ve seen his shows , they seem evangelical, he shouts and screams .. he’s not my type . He actually seems narcissistic to be honest
@@tuleybee2425 I know! I don't know how people swallow and follow! Hey Tuley Bee (LOVE your name BTW), you have a fun weekend! 😊👍💞
One of my concerns is the kind of $ Tony Robbins charges for the seminars. Is concerning Does anyone agree?
Mary, it's no one's concern how much Tony Robbins charges for his seminars... The concern should be, why are there so many people who are willing to pay so much for his seminars?
I figure he’s allowed to charge whatever people are crazy enough to pay. Kind of like how people pay for all those ridiculous Scientology classes.
No; he's a creature of our culture. Nothing more. He should however reorient himself with boundaries.
@@aalzi its the "american dream". Money is the ultimate status in a consumerist materialistic society. More money you got the more shit you can buy that you dont need.. Its the circle of life
It's irrelevant to me how much money the suckers are willing to pay. But the suckers will always pay.
My aunt (classic malignant) got kicked out of his seminar after asking a question 20 years ago.... apperently he couldn't handle his own reflection 😝
You don't get kicked out for asking a question. I started with Tony 20 yrs ago. Sorry: BS!
@@donnamuller6460 He's all smoke and mirrors.
Wow.
..creepy.
Dr. Grande, thank you. I wanted to add something about the Tony Robbins math that in all these years very few women reported his abuse, therefore it was likely he was innocent.
When I worked at a large university one of the deans harassed the female students. So many students complained it would seem he had time to do nothing else. When one sued the rest of us were asked to testify. But we were terrified of this powerful dean who had threatened to sue us into poverty. So we eventually declined.
Only one fearless woman followed through and successfully sued him for damages. The moral here is these power hungry harassers intimidate people. Those who come forward are just the tip of the iceberg.
The Jimmy Saville case is a great example.
Intimidating a witness in itself is a crime
So he was just adding crime upon crime
He is like a fast talking, over the top evangelist!
@Quiche Lorraine I had a friend that got into Teal Swan and Tony Robbins and both gave me a major grifter/charlatan vibe. Teal Swan just has a totally creepy, cult leader vibe.
You know you should back off from someone when you feel uncomfortable watching them.
That’s the case for me about this life coach.
Just saying hi to a fellow Pomeranian friend 🐶
I'm on my 3rd! 🙂
PoM MoM hi! That’s lovely. Unfortunately he was the only one that I have ever had but I still love him💕
@@GreenAndTheToe
They are fierce 💕loyal
little dogs. My other 2 gals and your lil guy are 'somewhere' happily playing together!
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PoM MoM you are the sweetest! Have a lovely life x
Same here. Wouldn't let him in my house.
Tony Robbins was a guy who was clinically depressed in his early thirty’s, one day woke up & became like Superman & now has net worth of half a billion dollars.
there is more to the story i'm sure (not in a good way)
i'm actually quite interested to hear about what really happened
I love this channel. Dr. Grande just tells it like it is without being all dramatic. It's nice to be able to hear a clear, fair opinion.
"What is a life coach?" - Well, it's a narcissist who uses their eloquence and confidence to sell lies and illusions.
And the person who signed a life coach on to “coach“ them on their life, for life. He wouldn’t have a job if he didn’t have followers… We’re all so fast to point blame but we have to remember who is giving him the power… The sheeple.
@@mulliganstew72 Some people need inspiration, if they want to pay lots of money for that inspiration that's on them I guess
After slowly discovering how life coaches work, I decided to step out of that line of work and focus my energy elsewhere. It’s all a cult, believe me!
"How I narcissism, and so can you!" -some life coach
Not all life coaches can be lumped together any more than all priests are rapists. You people go too far in the other direction & have opinions based on ignorance… the actual, literal definition- you don’t know that half the stuff you believe isn’t true. Not defending Robbins btw but it’s not all snake oil either.
This is a very well informed, fair & concise video. Well done!
DeathCreationist as always. I trust him to analyze fairly
Robbins is just a very good salesman/public speaker, that's all.
If his true goal was just to help people he wouldn't charge ridiculous prices to go to his cringeworthy seminars which are all just high energy hype & getting people emotionally charged.
Exactly
100% accurate. He is a successful snake oil salesman. Cringe for sure.
Where I worked back in the 90s loaned me Tony Robbins tapes, because they were training for managment. I got nothing out of the tapes. I mean audio tapes.
Right on the money!
@@elizabethwarman9028 What was it like? Rah-rah-rah? I know somebody who attended a seminar right about that time and they claimed it was "Great" without being specific.
Let me tell you something and I'm saying this from my own experience. I graduated from college and have a degree. I've been in my career field for 3 years and I realized one universal truth. College was overkill for what I do and it's a natural resource bachelor degree in science. In terms of Robbins' approach to his craft if he's gonna be counseling people with their trauma it sounds like he should have some formal education on counseling mental trauma. The reason I'm saying this is because I think Robbins' is sniffing in his own glue. I'm sure he possesses natural motivation speaking ability but to a certain point. In my eyes he's exceeded his natural ability and should get some formal training.
he would have so much more creditbility if he had, at least, picked up a degree or two in psychology or even as a coach. if he went to school parttime since he became big he could have two or three doctorates at this point, and be a lot more believable.
I'm sure he can't focus on anything lomher then 15 minutes. Those people need people. Sitting whole alone and learning just for a week would kill him.
Your measured opinion is so admirable. Also, the dry humour...icing on the cake!
I love your sense of humor! 😁😁😁
What other kind of naked is there 😂🤣
Hah ha ha heh he! I know! Doctor Grande has a great sense of humour and I love his facial expressions! Cheers!🌷🙋
It reminds me of some movie where a guy was caught having an affair. He said it was an "accident". The wife basically said, "Oh, you were coming out of the shower, tripped and your just went into her while she was "accidentally" naked on the bed?!".
Kathrin Johnson 😂 gave me a good laugh, too.
I liked the:
"You're an irresponsible loser!!"
(Grande): "I'm not irresponsible"
"'Unlock your inner power.' I *really* don't know what that means."
I read one book in the 80s. I thought it was awesome. Two years later I matured, began to get more education, and I wondered, "How on earth did even like that crap?" My conclusion is he is a salesperson.
Oh What year exactly did you “mature” ?
I’m not an expert nor do I play one on tv. But I did stay in a hotel once. 😐
@@glennso47 Did you throw your tv out of the window ?
I knew he was a fraud at the beginning. Had people walk on and through fire and they had to go to Hawaii to do this. People in need gravitate towards anyone like him.
The point of the fire walk is that you can do things you don't believe you are capable of because of your belief system. Yes, the fire walk has a scientific explanation but that doesn't negate the point or benefit of the experience.
Me too - his face screaming about it. Would better go to listen Trump ( and I don't like him too - at least Trump don't fake to be a nice guy!
@@davida.4933 if you believe that jump out of a plane without a parachute midair thats my problem with this kind of bs theirs some shit you can't do or i wouldn't recommend and if you do stay away from me when you do it. People have been injured even hospitalized doing these fire walks.
They didn't exactly walk through fire. They ran over hot coals! I'd forgotten about that. I guess it's something that most of us can do, just don't dawdle.
@@davida.4933 I know. Knew a guy that did it. He said it wasn't worth the money to go to Hawaii. He never got to leave the place. He said he was glad he did the firewalk.
Just the term "life coach" makes me snort with laughter.
@@seeya101oliASWHDFIL except therapists are trained in evidence based practices.
@@seeya101oliASWHDFIL good for you, maybe tarot cards could help
I equate "life coach" to "unemployed and can't find a job".
So does “motivational speaker.”
😂😂😂 life dentists
Your skill in articulating your analyses and logically breaking down details is something I wish I could do better. Excellent video.
I think you nailed Robbins. Robbins is also something of a “guru” to the rich and when a famous client’s name is dropped; the common thinking is, “If he helped so and so, he can help me”. Albeit the person doesn’t even know if he helped the celebrity or not.
Unfortunately people tend to listen to rich people and throw context and logic out the window.
If you see Oprah in his list, you know it's 100% a crock of shit.
Interesting. I borrowed Tony Robbins's technique of repeating "I own you" to get over stage fright. It seemed to help. Maybe it was just a placebo effect. I guess I look at some of his techniques as "hacks." What helped me more was understanding the importance of confronting our fears through a process psychologists call "exposure therapy."
And that's also a form of learning. Practice³
They are not "his" techniques. He has collected a bunch of stuff, packaged it in a loud, loutish presentation, and fleeces the vulnerable who are looking for answers in all the wrong places. There is absolutely nothing original or creative about him He is disgusting.
I agree with you. He sets me on edge with his loud voice and none stop shouting.
I feel the same way, his voice is so aggressive.
I had a whole lifetime of that from my Dad, for free. I'll pass.
I don’t like loud people. They can completely stress you out in 5 minutes.
I find Robbins' overall energy is disgusting. He is very top-heavy on masculine energy -- and nobody should "tear people down and build them back up " That IS what cult leaders do -- i know because i am a cult survivor. Robbins wants to keep the $$$$$ going until he dies. For a one afternoon session with a large company he charges like $ 1 million. Nobody is worth that amount of $$ for a few hours of Tony R diatribes !!!!!!
Tony says he loves people, that is why he charges thousands of dollars to go to his seminars.
it works bro - he's a business man. why would he lower the price if 2500 people per event ate paying him thousands of dollars? would you lower the price even though it people are paying it? it's the same with apple samsung etc... ridiculous prices but people are paying it so why lower it ;)
I've met the French equivalent. These days he trains other people to become 'life coaches' and 'therapists', which is pretty worrying. He also dismissed the idea that child sexual, physical, and emotional abuse existed, 'All parents love their children and try to do what is best for them'. Right... Oh, and he thought that believing in God, and praying every day and attending weekly religious meetings was very important for one's mental health, and that atheism was evidence of poor mental health, issues with authority, and a lack of a positive father figure in childhood.
If people gave me thousands of dollars, I love would them too.
"Irresponsible loser." "I've never been irresponsible." loved it! Can I borrow that one?
He never claimed with certainty that he was never irresponsible, only that there was no evidence of it XD :P
In the early 1990s, I had purchased the Anthony Robins "Personal Power" audio cassette tape set, which was claiming will help achieve success in early as 30 days.
I don't typically fall for infomercial content, but this seemed exceptional, so feeling inspired in the wee hours of the morning I took the bait. As I recall, it cost around $200, very expensive, especially in the 90s. . Though I was satisfied with the materials received, the 30 day program was of little help to me. Just to be fair, I was listening to the tapes during my 2 hours of commute to and from work daily. Maybe if I had given the program 100% attention, It would have yielded better results. However the assignments were very tedious/boring.
Even so, I do think Robbins intent is to truly help people, but at a premium price. Tony does have friends/clients in high places, which helps validate him. For instance, in one of his events which I seen here on youtube, Al Gore was in attendance (Al Gore had made a funny comment from his seat in the audience, regarding winning then loosing the presidential election). Also, the idea he is present on those costly retreats kind of validates him, walking on hot coals and all. Cheers!
Worked for someone that talked about “Tony” all the time. Was great friends with him and thought he was so great. It was hands down one of worst jobs I’ve ever had. I enjoyed the work but the management was terrible. Abusive, gaslighting, unrealistic expectation, emotional terrorism, with enough kindness or empathy to string you along. The irony is in the job hunt that led to that position I remember reviewing a posting that sounded amazing but in their initial email wanted me to complete some Tony Robbins assessment. Free but I noped out of that ASAP and I still ended up with that crap...
What industry was this in?
I got ahold of his Motivational CDs 10-15 years ago, about ten or twelve of them, each CD a different lesson. What he was teaching on them you could write on a single 3x5 index card, the rest was just him blathering on and padding out the CD length.
I know, right?! My boss paid me to translate these CDs for him, and I felt like I could copy/paste a lot of it.
Sounds like most TH-cam videos out there.
this is a really powerful analysis. this is very empathetic and great. i had a friend who belittled my mental illness and just told me to listen to Tony Robbins to the point where i believed him.... I kept trying to listen, but it wasn't connecting with it at all. I'm sure he has helped people, but he is not a cure-all. He's not some miracle worker. He's just a guy who motivates certain people to get up and do stuff.
I also just recently heard his son is following in the schtick, but also plays up and gamifies his version of reality in a way that is both totally comparable to Tony's and yet there is a weird disconnect as he claims trauma and all sorts of things that Tony also claims which if you believe in Tony, you would think this legacy taint would have come to an end. There are lots of red flags here. Cult-worship guruism is no joke.
what the world needs now more than every is legitimate communication and compassion, not third rate hustlers who sell you on a ivory smile and promises of greatness. i don't even have the healthcare to see a psychologist. if this country can't get our act together, we are in for increased suffering of a magnitude unseen before, but i'm glad that some people still care.
I have never attended any of his seminars but I have watched a Netflix documentary about him. Here is what I got from it. He has a very strong personality . He was very rough on some of the people in the seminars. He literally embarassed some of them in front of the crowd. Telling a woman to call her boyfriend and break up with him in front of a big crowd was cruel. Maybe she wasnt sure if she love him but this has to be thinked over! He dont know anything about their relationship so he has no right to tell someone to break up with their partner. Also he called one woman a "whore" in front of her daughter. I didnt like the whole cult like atmosphere and I wouldnt trust him