Thank you for another gem to follow. I noticed that I automatically, slightly forward extend the arms, along a bow from the back, through the shouder blades and to the fingers. The forward force of this extension seems to "lift" the arms along a vertical, circular circuit with no heaviness experienced. The arms aren`t floating vertically but are rather pivoted from the upper back. A subjective feeling again but so blissful :) Edit, yes It really is subjective. It sounds stupid but I don`t experience sensations or feelings (like heaviness or hardness) as separate from myself objects of awareness (my muscles may really hurt afterward though :)
Thanks for describing your experiences. I think that there is much here of value to discuss. In my view, feeling the extension coming from the back through to the fingers is correct and very important. However, a possible reason that your muscles hurt afterwards is that they may already have some congestion and/or inflammation from prior overuse or trauma, which is masked from your awareness but which you start to perceive when you relax and “shoot in” neural electricity that stimulates sensory nerves from that region. Try massaging the region that hurts to determine if there is any prior trauma there. It is always good to check to see if you are inadvertently using contractive strength. Try periodically stopping the movement. Then become aware of any contractive strength, and release it. Then continue on, and again repeat stopping and releasing. As habitual, contractive strength is eliminated, limbs feel increasingly heavy-but they also become very free-moving. Also, the neural electricity for generating expansive strength to replace the contractive strength requires quite a bit of chemical energy. That expenditure can be experienced as tiredness similar to that from doing conventional exercise. But the tiredness quickly dissipates and evolves into a state of exhilaration and elation.
After all these years, this is as far as you got? Neijin is like the alphabet ... it is not an advanced concept. All good Chinese martial arts use neijin, not just Taijiquan. Even Shaolin. Yet Shaolin doesn't emphasize fangsong the way Taijiquan does, so you're missing a basic understanding of what the neijin is.
Hi Bob, I'm curious about the lineage you represent and the way in which you have addressed this gentleman. Assuming for a moment that what you have said has a validity to it, is it the nature of your school, and it's teachers to communicate in a belittling manner when you note something different from your current comprehension. I was wondering if you are addressing this gentleman with this dismissive manner because of an attainment that you are able to use as the result of your perfected Taiji and how we could all learn from you so no one ever need makes these kind of mistakes again. Maybe then we could all talk together with the mutual respect one might assume rests in the heart of a Taiji master. Thank you
@@michaelgrosvenor9520 There was no information in your post. There was verifiable information in my post. Just assume that I am trying to make people think and discuss, rather than go down the road of maudlin spirituality, "mutual respect", and suchlike.
Thank you for another gem to follow. I noticed that I automatically, slightly forward extend the arms, along a bow from the back, through the shouder blades and to the fingers. The forward force of this extension seems to "lift" the arms along a vertical, circular circuit with no heaviness experienced. The arms aren`t floating vertically but are rather pivoted from the upper back. A subjective feeling again but so blissful :)
Edit, yes It really is subjective. It sounds stupid but I don`t experience sensations or feelings (like heaviness or hardness) as separate from myself objects of awareness (my muscles may really hurt afterward though :)
Thanks for describing your experiences. I think that there is much here of value to discuss. In my view, feeling the extension coming from the back through to the fingers is correct and very important. However, a possible reason that your muscles hurt afterwards is that they may already have some congestion and/or inflammation from prior overuse or trauma, which is masked from your awareness but which you start to perceive when you relax and “shoot in” neural electricity that stimulates sensory nerves from that region. Try massaging the region that hurts to determine if there is any prior trauma there.
It is always good to check to see if you are inadvertently using contractive strength. Try periodically stopping the movement. Then become aware of any contractive strength, and release it. Then continue on, and again repeat stopping and releasing. As habitual, contractive strength is eliminated, limbs feel increasingly heavy-but they also become very free-moving. Also, the neural electricity for generating expansive strength to replace the contractive strength requires quite a bit of chemical energy. That expenditure can be experienced as tiredness similar to that from doing conventional exercise. But the tiredness quickly dissipates and evolves into a state of exhilaration and elation.
Thank you for finding time and giving such a generous answer. It has been an invaluable help.
After all these years, this is as far as you got? Neijin is like the alphabet ... it is not an advanced concept. All good Chinese martial arts use neijin, not just Taijiquan. Even Shaolin. Yet Shaolin doesn't emphasize fangsong the way Taijiquan does, so you're missing a basic understanding of what the neijin is.
Hi Bob, I'm curious about the lineage you represent and the way in which you have addressed this gentleman. Assuming for a moment that what you have said has a validity to it, is it the nature of your school, and it's teachers to communicate in a belittling manner when you note something different from your current comprehension. I was wondering if you are addressing this gentleman with this dismissive manner because of an attainment that you are able to use as the result of your perfected Taiji and how we could all learn from you so no one ever need makes these kind of mistakes again. Maybe then we could all talk together with the mutual respect one might assume rests in the heart of a Taiji master.
Thank you
@@michaelgrosvenor9520 There was no information in your post. There was verifiable information in my post. Just assume that I am trying to make people think and discuss, rather than go down the road of maudlin spirituality, "mutual respect", and suchlike.
@@david9180 The boy with the keyboard posts the most fake spiritual comments.