ducatti sounds like a proper italian machine designed for being both machinery and art in the purest form harley davidson sounds like a glorified fart machine that depends on legacy to sell over priced prostate vibrators for middle aged men
Well... As someone who's been brought to the music quality world by DankPods himself, Bass is great as long as it actually is played through something with a high quality one. Heavy low quality bass is just a wet fart over whatever you're listening to imo, and having too much can have a negative effect on some songs, and with too much i don't mean the meme levels of bass boost. I know that it's a bit too much of an enthusiast's point of view, but you should always learn your headphones and your music, then tune your headphones to taste with an EQ if you have a dedicated device/app that let's you do it.
@@Modelta you harley dudes always forget to mention japanese cruisers like the goldwing. Those engines are actually engineered using tech that did NOT go outdated in the 1940s. Harley is the only manufacturer with customers dumb enough to think fuel injection is a good selling point lmao.
They specialize in high displacement low horsepower, but it's all because of the stupid factory tune they basically suffocate the motor to get it to sound like that.
@Shahan 484 it's a harley davidson, the full name is ultra classic electra glide. The electra is Harleys grand touring motorcycle with a infotainment, speakers , hard sattle bag, and a touring "trunk" storage. It's a big 900lbs bike, mine is 2007 and come stock with a 96ci and I upgraded mine to an s&s 110B cubic inch. We get royal Enfield in the US but didn't know have have a model called the electra.
Ducati gets my vote even though you don't do it justice by revving it out to the point its sound turns into a scream. Try that with a Harley, its sound would turn into a distribution of slightly used spare parts.
@@ulovemymum2963 the suspension including the swinging arm move independent the frame. The engine is either encased in or part of the frame. I have no idea really I’m just stirring the pot. Who cares? That’s a better question. It’s a video about motorcycle engines for enthusiasts to enjoy, not a dick, don’t take it so hard
No winner I would say both have their characteristic iconic sound due to the design. But loved how animation exactly demonstrated long and short stokes in respective engines and the sync with sound
The difference in sound is due to the ignition system, not the angle of the pistons. In old days Harley Davidson couldn't afford a distributor for the ignition system, so their spark plugs work at the same time. Good advertising can turn a design flaw into a legend.
That's not true, the angle of cylinders is foundamental for the ignition timing, which is the main factor for the noise output in a engine. For example you can have 270° in line twin, 180° in line twin and 360° in line twin. Each of this engine will sound very different but all can have the same injectors, same displacement and same distribution
I have a 1260s Ducati V-Twin with a full race arrow system. People say it sounds violent. I love it. I also love the Harley sound. V-Rod with the higher revs and the typical Harley sound. They all sound good.
This was well presented, but for me I like the sound of the Harley Davidson motor. I grew up on that and it is a part of my legacy, going back generations.
Well, the Harley sounds like a tracktor falling apart within the next 100 meters, however, this is a nice comparison of motors. The 90° V is an obvious choice for motorcycles. It's narrow, inherently balanced and has character. The 45° V is narrow, short, but unbalanced. And it has very little space between the cylinders for the intake assembly. Maybe a 60° V would be a good compromise... (Aprilia RSV1000). Also we are comparing a short stroke race engine with a long stroke street engine here...
Maybe at... just 100 or even 50 rpm ? A v8 has much more cylinders and to make it sound like a v2, you would have to make it run incredibely slowly that might be impossible
Nah i like the sound a harley makes waaaaaay more. Sports bikes have em beat in speed and performance, but they got y'all beat in comfort and asthetic.
I cant help but love the low down grunt of a Harley engine. Sounds like how you would expect American muscle to sound with 2 cylinders. Im a sucker for pushrod V engines.
Definitely the Harley davidson, even rho some say it sounds like its goong to stall or what not, it wont. Most people if they dont hear an engine sounding like clockwork they think it's odd, but I get, but this engine sound hear is an evolution engine with carburetor, a fuel injected bike especially the twin cam sounds night and day
Impressive ear! Kudos. It IS an evolution engine. I honestly appreciate and like all engines, I also really like motorcycles. I have to admit that I personally do not understand the cruiser motorcycle, which doesn't mean that I dislike it or have anything against it. But when it comes to the sound of old Harleys I have to say that they are near the very top of any engine sound for me. Especially old Harleys that have this rhythmic unevenness to them. The new ones are ok too but I feel they're a bit too artificial. The old panheads, knuckleheads etc...are just pure oily mechanics. It's not about speed, or power or anything tangible like that. These engines are about something that is a bit beyond mere words. I like Ducati as well but in terms of sound alone, between these two bikes I would have to go with the Harley.
@@d4a I get what your saying, I had a sport bike in my younger years, it was a GSXR 600, love the way it sound and idled compare to the other inline, kind of has a up and down idle. When I jumped over and started the newer harleys at the time which was in 2008, I was like hey where is that famous sound, I even waited for the bike to earm up, I didnt know cause of the fuel injection and it being a twin cam, it changed everything, but I love it today, and funny thing is I'm not sold yet on the latest engine which is the M8, I think they are very smooth tho and quicker but I'm still enjoying my dyna, I still like the vibration
Most internet dweller on this comment must be never ride nor even met a Harley bike before, calling it ancient sounding but when one shown up in front of their face, they would immediately shit their pant about how Amazing that sound is
@@honestlion17hey numbnuts I ride a 300hp turbo 1200 and still like Harleys, go back to your 125 shitmobile and quit being a nuisance on the internet 💀
Ducati feeling is something unique. At first time it feels as smooth as Automatic transmission on belt driven motorcycles (Honda PCX, Honda ADV…) But the power is way exciting every time you open the throttle
For distinct sound the Harley obviously wins. The Ducati could be confused with an other engine, but the Harley can not. Which sounds better? I don't know, depends on my mood I guess.
For consistent powerband and delivery and for racing, Ducati. For reliability and low cost, Harley. I’d like to see desmodromic valves in a Harley engine like the M8 which has a lot of potential and is used in racing.
Who wins? Well I think the one with more power, better efficiency, better reliability, less vibration, less noise, and less fuel consumption should be the winner. Wonder which one.
I like the Harleys, I won't lie. They have a distinct sound profile that's very bassey, but also super loud. The vibration from these suckers, if you were sitting next to them you could feel the floor move. Crazy stuff.
- Ok, harley. How much torque do you want?
- Yes
- And how much horsepower?
- No
60 HP
@enriqueamaya3883 Go away! You are not welcome here!
@enriqueamaya3883اللّهُ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَن ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهم وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِّنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاء وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَؤُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ
@enriqueamaya3883 Who
@enriqueamaya3883thanks brother ❤
As a motorcycle enthusiast I like the sound of both . They bring enjoyment to the ears like bass does to music .
ducatti sounds like a proper italian machine designed for being both machinery and art in the purest form harley davidson sounds like a glorified fart machine that depends on legacy to sell over priced prostate vibrators for middle aged men
Well...
As someone who's been brought to the music quality world by DankPods himself, Bass is great as long as it actually is played through something with a high quality one. Heavy low quality bass is just a wet fart over whatever you're listening to imo, and having too much can have a negative effect on some songs, and with too much i don't mean the meme levels of bass boost. I know that it's a bit too much of an enthusiast's point of view, but you should always learn your headphones and your music, then tune your headphones to taste with an EQ if you have a dedicated device/app that let's you do it.
That's part of why I bought a Buell. Man, what a POS that was.
@Javier Perez Apps are great but a standalone equalizer makes a big difference
How about electric vehicle
I know it's been said before, but Harleys are unmatched in their ability to turn gasoline into noise without the side effect of horsepower
you violated them man 😂
the only way they are moving ahead with HP is displacement.
they dont need horsepower when the motorcycles they make are for low rpm torque
@@Modelta you harley dudes always forget to mention japanese cruisers like the goldwing. Those engines are actually engineered using tech that did NOT go outdated in the 1940s. Harley is the only manufacturer with customers dumb enough to think fuel injection is a good selling point lmao.
@@Hydraggle Harleys outsell all the Jap and German rubbish in their market sector by 20 to 1 my friend.
Ah yes, Harley Davidson, the only company that somehow advanced backwards.
Can you give me your snapchat please i wanna show you what a real harley davidson sounds like😅
Doesn't it say Cub Cadet under that paint?
it's the point there old style cruisers
They specialize in high displacement low horsepower, but it's all because of the stupid factory tune they basically suffocate the motor to get it to sound like that.
@@averagesquid840 They also engineered it to run badly no matter how you tuned it. Both spark plugs always fire at the same time no matter what.
Harley Davidson is the winner here, the 45° V twin is the most effective way to turn gasoline into pure noise without the drawback of horsepower
😂😂😂
try to cheer up yourself even it’s loser? 😂
Y’all got like 10hp but 50torque 😐 all Harley owners are good for is being loud old and annoying. And always crying on the street
@@canttouchme2036 Ducati fanboy doesn't even know when another Ducati fanboy is making a sarcastic remark at Harleys expense.
@@ThaHammieJaassee like sports bikes aren't loud and annoying. Cope, seethe, mald.
Nice little detail with the fork & blade rods
I'm so happy someone noticed
Agreed, 'cept, are Harley rods that skinny?
@@leehaelters6182 i think so. Check this out
th-cam.com/video/Qjrd8aaKTbQ/w-d-xo.html
@@elfaseccioria, wow, great catch, thanks! All the best.
🤓This nice little optical detail is technically the reason why they sound both great, but so different ✌️
Now all we need is a 45° W three cylinder
Believe it or not Fueling made a V3
@@tylerthomason9461thats a w 3 brother the original w engines looked like that rather than the twin VR engines in modern vw owned stuff
@@zZWolfyZz meant to say W3 lol never realized my mistake
three cylinders can't share the crank journal it won't work.
Harley was sounding like a generator 😂
😆
Also looks like diesel engine
Nooooooo!!! My generator has a 10 times Better sound.
That was a evo SoundClip the M8 and twin cam idle higher
@@kriccochannel06your generator sounds like a microwave 💀
As a motorcyclist I consider Harley more as a nice piece of furniture than a motorcycle. The noise is that of a vintage tractor.
Was about to argue about your opinion till I remembered I like to describe my electra as a couch on wheels
@@Furrykevlar 😂
@@Furrykevlar royal Enfield electra? Or is there a Harley called electra?
-non US citizen
@Shahan 484 it's a harley davidson, the full name is ultra classic electra glide. The electra is Harleys grand touring motorcycle with a infotainment, speakers , hard sattle bag, and a touring "trunk" storage. It's a big 900lbs bike, mine is 2007 and come stock with a 96ci and I upgraded mine to an s&s 110B cubic inch. We get royal Enfield in the US but didn't know have have a model called the electra.
And so is the fuel consumption
The harley is such an iconic sound... Iconic for being slow as hell and making way too much noise in the process
Hell yea
💀
Slow and over priced
And known for 60 yr old dudes going in the desert, stopping at every streakhouse and drinking beers all night
it adds to the fun
They both sound very fitting for the sorts of bikes they are.
The roar of a mighty lion vs the elegant step of a steed
well said
Anyone that calls their horse a "steed" is 🌈.
Ducati vs fart machine 🤣
i was thinking about a cork factory
@@fireworm91 🤣🤣
I didn't wanna say it, but i agree
Ricer vs Old school.
@@rickitysplitz7035 calling ducati ricer when the chopper culture is based under modifications...
Cant imagine a Ducati with the Harley Sound and a Harley with Ducati sound. So, for me, both are great!
if you fix the timing on a Harley and have a 2-1 exhaust it soulds a lot closer to the ducati.
TIMING KUDA
Actually the Revolution engine especially the 975 sounds a lot like a Ducati.
Ducati with Harley sound = Buell
Harley with Ducati sound = Ducati Diavel 😂😂
Actually the Ducati sound is just a regular v twin sound, because Suzuki/Cagiva also has that sound
Make them longer! I love listening to engines both at idle and revving
Ducati gets my vote even though you don't do it justice by revving it out to the point its sound turns into a scream.
Try that with a Harley, its sound would turn into a distribution of slightly used spare parts.
Buell
Ducati, as it doesn't sound like a stationary traction engine from the 1890s
Every engine is stationary
@@roscoe4092 every engine is stationary? You sure about that? I suppose the bike is stationary too then, just the wheels are moving 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@ulovemymum2963 the suspension including the swinging arm move independent the frame. The engine is either encased in or part of the frame.
I have no idea really I’m just stirring the pot. Who cares? That’s a better question. It’s a video about motorcycle engines for enthusiasts to enjoy, not a dick, don’t take it so hard
but we like the engine from 1890s
The harley engine is literally an old style engine. Solid lifters and what not
I love the Animation with the sound to see the difference.
Need more of these comparisons
There's no way a engineer developez Harley's engine. It was probably an architect
The people who made the harley engine were poor and didn't have r&d money. It's a very interesting story. Fortnine has a great video on it
@@hothsurvivor Also there is a great television miniseries "Harley and the Davidsons"
No winner I would say both have their characteristic iconic sound due to the design.
But loved how animation exactly demonstrated long and short stokes in respective engines and the sync with sound
As a motorcycle myself I can confirm these sound nice.
Yo it's that guy from the Geico commercials. You know the one
@@ihateeverything3972 I’ve been trying to reach you about you cars extended warranty.
Can I ride you ? 😅
Ducati for me
Harley sounds like my lawnmower on first startup after a long winter.
And Ducati sounds like the weed wacker
both are charming in their own ways
HD sounds like hitting an half full barrel with a stick
Sports bikes literally sound like autistic screeching
No comparison each have their own unique sound and its pure joy to hear, so ill take both
What if you had to pick only one?
@@blocko_662 I'd pick a harley. Beautiful sound, comfy seat, and beautiful design. Plus i like supporting American businesses.
@@infantry4lyfe252 he was asking about the sound, and not gonna lie the harley sounds like a 1920s farm tractor so…
@@Hydraggle so what you're saying is they sound like diesel engines. I see no problem with that because they sound awesome and can run forever.
@@infantry4lyfe252 im saying they sound like clapping ass cheeks, the ass cheeks probably make more power too
Love the sound of a harley engine
Dude the rev matching with the videos. Nice done
The difference in sound is due to the ignition system, not the angle of the pistons. In old days Harley Davidson couldn't afford a distributor for the ignition system, so their spark plugs work at the same time.
Good advertising can turn a design flaw into a legend.
That's not true, the angle of cylinders is foundamental for the ignition timing, which is the main factor for the noise output in a engine. For example you can have 270° in line twin, 180° in line twin and 360° in line twin. Each of this engine will sound very different but all can have the same injectors, same displacement and same distribution
@@TheMatti36 in this case shouldn’t speak so categorically. Perhaps judgments of both sides are right.
That's bullshit because gm had waste spark in the 80/90s, they sound like any other engine
The Ducati sounds like a race-ready machine. The Harley sounds like they forgot to turn the choke off.
Not only influenced by angle but also Bore and Stroke comparison which greatly distinguishes the two machines
Ducati: “let’s engineer it so it even sounds sexy”
Harley: “it sounds like a broken fart machine… whatever, fat Americans will buy it anyway” 😅
🤣🤣
Damn bro I'm trying to lose a few pounds 😭😭
Guess any engine sounds like farting to you
To bad it’s sounds cooler. But American engines just sounds cooler I general.
Maaaan I prefer the sound of a Harley. But I also prefer the sound of old school muscle too
Ducati by far!
You should have said both tho
Sounds like a weed wacker
I have a 1260s Ducati V-Twin with a full race arrow system. People say it sounds violent. I love it. I also love the Harley sound. V-Rod with the higher revs and the typical Harley sound. They all sound good.
Both are amazing 🥰
Make more videos like this, it is fun to watch. I'd like to see you make such videos of car engines as well.
he makes lots of car engine videos
As a motorcycle enthusiast I like both
This was well presented, but for me I like the sound of the Harley Davidson motor. I grew up on that and it is a part of my legacy, going back generations.
Harley Davidson one sounds like me going to the bathroom after a really bad meal
Idk, sports bikes sound more like a fart to me than harleys
Ducati sounded like a weed wacker
Well, the Harley sounds like a tracktor falling apart within the next 100 meters, however, this is a nice comparison of motors. The 90° V is an obvious choice for motorcycles. It's narrow, inherently balanced and has character. The 45° V is narrow, short, but unbalanced. And it has very little space between the cylinders for the intake assembly. Maybe a 60° V would be a good compromise... (Aprilia RSV1000). Also we are comparing a short stroke race engine with a long stroke street engine here...
And the Ducati sounds like a muffled weed wacker 😂
Any one knows Royal Enfield here,single 90 degrees straight, legendary thump
Completely different motorcycles and I love love for both. I’ve owned a 748, 848, 1098 and two Harley’s….completely different but both glorious
I'm a Ducati guy, so Ducati. When I was messing around with my turn signals and had the tail off I pulled my termis, started it and scared myself 😂
I love these. Thanks
i love both equally. neither is my brand of choice for my personal motorcycle, but they both make a unique and pleasant noise
I'm American so of course I lean towards Harley but (although I like the sound of both) you can't deny Ducati superior quality.
Make sure to not fall then
Nah Harley wins everywhere tbh
Harley sounds more deeper like a old school V8. And a straight pipe one sound insane
I think the Ducati sounds more like a v8. Makes sense too, as both engines have a crossplane crank
Maybe at... just 100 or even 50 rpm ? A v8 has much more cylinders and to make it sound like a v2, you would have to make it run incredibely slowly that might be impossible
@@ivanbrasladucati sounds like a honda civic hitting vtec
Ducati by a mile.
More than a mile
Nah i like the sound a harley makes waaaaaay more. Sports bikes have em beat in speed and performance, but they got y'all beat in comfort and asthetic.
@@infantry4lyfe252 No they do not.
@@crad5476 yes they do. sorry to have to break it to you, but it's the truth.
@@infantry4lyfe252 No, they do not. Sorry to break your egoistic bubble, but other bikes can be as comfortable as your Harleys.
The Harley sound is distinct
R1M Crossplane: just hold my beer
The RN22 has a crossplane too.
My personal preference is the Ducati, but I remain respectful of the heritage of Harley. I like the Porsche-engined V-Rod and the old Fat Boy.
You are asking? Really ? Ducati is the winner!
This is a comparison between a sportsbike and chooper engine sound. so no ones the winner
Winner of what? Worst sounding bike? 😂
I cant help but love the low down grunt of a Harley engine. Sounds like how you would expect American muscle to sound with 2 cylinders.
Im a sucker for pushrod V engines.
Briggs intek vtwins are a mix of both
@@joshmanis9860
Never heard one, gonna have to look it up.
Thanks for the suggestion, would be cool to have a bit of both worlds
@@BottomlessCoffee. there might be one on your lawnmower lol
@@joshmanis9860
Lol cool. Unfortunately I only have an electric lawnmower so i wouldn't be able to compare the two in person : )
Big burly manly grunts 😠
The v-rod engines go hard, take boost. Developed by Porsche. Decent engines. Ducati obvs tho
rlly? porsche laid their hands on ducati engine development? makes sense as they're siblings under vw group. but, seriously?
@@artfazil5355 He means the V-Rod engine, Harley got Porsche to help design it
So HD made one semi attractive package that didn't sell and is ugly as all hell lol
Idk but the 2 sounds so good
I like both sound
Definitely the Harley davidson, even rho some say it sounds like its goong to stall or what not, it wont. Most people if they dont hear an engine sounding like clockwork they think it's odd, but I get, but this engine sound hear is an evolution engine with carburetor, a fuel injected bike especially the twin cam sounds night and day
Impressive ear! Kudos. It IS an evolution engine. I honestly appreciate and like all engines, I also really like motorcycles. I have to admit that I personally do not understand the cruiser motorcycle, which doesn't mean that I dislike it or have anything against it. But when it comes to the sound of old Harleys I have to say that they are near the very top of any engine sound for me. Especially old Harleys that have this rhythmic unevenness to them. The new ones are ok too but I feel they're a bit too artificial. The old panheads, knuckleheads etc...are just pure oily mechanics. It's not about speed, or power or anything tangible like that. These engines are about something that is a bit beyond mere words. I like Ducati as well but in terms of sound alone, between these two bikes I would have to go with the Harley.
@@d4a I get what your saying, I had a sport bike in my younger years, it was a GSXR 600, love the way it sound and idled compare to the other inline, kind of has a up and down idle. When I jumped over and started the newer harleys at the time which was in 2008, I was like hey where is that famous sound, I even waited for the bike to earm up, I didnt know cause of the fuel injection and it being a twin cam, it changed everything, but I love it today, and funny thing is I'm not sold yet on the latest engine which is the M8, I think they are very smooth tho and quicker but I'm still enjoying my dyna, I still like the vibration
HD engines are inefficient shit heaps
@@ItsThatMilkshake and what do you have
@@miguelsalgado4673 Mt09 sp
The one that sounds like it was actually tuned to run well.
Exactly, the Harley clearly wins.
Harley-Davidson ❤️
👌🔥
Harley!!!
Both win - cuz life is a boring without variety! Enjoy ALL the things!!!
Exactly!
Love the sound of old bike engines
Harley, that idle omg.
obviously Ducati, you can't really compare these two. But I would choose Guzzi over Harley for 90° V-Twin
Ducati: Manly sound
HD: Badass sound
*Bad ass-sound
@@bigcheese781 why you gotta be like that?
@@infantry4lyfe252 probably because hes the type of person who would go 250mph on a busy highway on a ducati
Both sound great 👍
Harley Davidson sounds more classic while Ducati is more modern
Watch it overheat at every red light
G8 b8 m8 I give it an 8 of 8
Which one?
Nah not Harleys, Ducatis maybe, but not Harleys
@@tonysenese8595 yep.
@@tonysenese8595 Nah, my 750 barely gets off of cold on the oil temp gauge unless its over 90
Ducati sounds better, but 2-cylinders always sound porly
Sound porly? Explain yourself better
As an owner of both over the years speed was king when I was younger bought a Harley at 38 been loving and riding ever since
Most internet dweller on this comment must be never ride nor even met a Harley bike before, calling it ancient sounding but when one shown up in front of their face, they would immediately shit their pant about how Amazing that sound is
Love the sound of a nice hog
Yeah, Hog is the word heavy and slow. Man must be rough going through life brain dead.🤪
@@honestlion17hey numbnuts I ride a 300hp turbo 1200 and still like Harleys, go back to your 125 shitmobile and quit being a nuisance on the internet 💀
If i have to choose a v-twin, it wont be the side shaft lawnmower engine.
Harley viene produciendo motos antes de que ducati siquiera fuera un proyecto
Y siguen siendo unos tractores lentos que suenan fuerte
There's just something special about the sound of a Harley
Who like Harley Davidson here
👇
Ducati feeling is something unique.
At first time it feels as smooth as Automatic transmission on belt driven motorcycles (Honda PCX, Honda ADV…)
But the power is way exciting every time you open the throttle
let the kids with plastic toy bikes, and let the real mans with metal harley davidson machine
A loud Harley beats most bikes for sound, love sound of all the Twins incl Firestorm, SP1/2, Ducati/ Aprillias etc and great torque delivery
Let's not beat around the bush, Harley sounds like an old tractor.
For distinct sound the Harley obviously wins. The Ducati could be confused with an other engine, but the Harley can not.
Which sounds better? I don't know, depends on my mood I guess.
Honestly, I love both.
The king
Harley Davidson
Both sound great but I definitely prefer Harley. Love your videos.
Harley davidson is the best bike sound
I like how animation is done
The Harley sounds like my lawnmower. And my lawnmower sounds awful!!
Both are awesome
Каждый из них по своему хорош
- What the sound is better?
- Yes.
Really good example for understanding very simply soon
The horse is beautifull sound.
Harley Davidson with heart ❤️ Ducati for sound.
For consistent powerband and delivery and for racing, Ducati. For reliability and low cost, Harley. I’d like to see desmodromic valves in a Harley engine like the M8 which has a lot of potential and is used in racing.
is it just me or does it look funny when it goes fast
Ducati: 👲💃
Harley Davidson: 🧔🍷🗿
having owned both i prefer a $200 30k service to the $2000 30k ducati service
The downside being you have to ride an overweight, ill handling pig for 30k miles to save $1800.
@@ferrumignis whats your woman got to do with this ?
Who wins? Well I think the one with more power, better efficiency, better reliability, less vibration, less noise, and less fuel consumption should be the winner. Wonder which one.
Considering a Harley is way more reliable than a Ducati you have your answer.
I like the Harleys, I won't lie. They have a distinct sound profile that's very bassey, but also super loud. The vibration from these suckers, if you were sitting next to them you could feel the floor move. Crazy stuff.