Ferrari 812 Superfast review: 789bhp tech fest is pure Ferrari magic

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    When tasked with replacing a car like the awesome Ferrari F12, it must be two things: very exciting and just a little bit scary. The F12 was such a huge leap forwards over its predecessor, the 599, that it was hard to believe an entire model evolution hadn’t gone missing somewhere.
    Yet five years later the new 211mph 812 Superfast is upon us, boasting an incredible 789bhp from its 6.5-litre V12 engine and enough new technical tricks to bamboozle every Magic Circle member.
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  • @theknowlodge8294
    @theknowlodge8294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    There is NOTHING on earth like the sound of a Ferrari V12. An absolute masterpiece.

    • @gregoryingram7561
      @gregoryingram7561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A car company that never misses its mark for perfection!

  • @ashs1670
    @ashs1670 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember Steve reviewing the F12 for Autocar 5 years ago and saying "where on earth do they go from here." Once again he's saying something very similar. Well done Ferrari!

  • @kize32
    @kize32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    NA 6.5 V12 800HP 9000 REDLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INSANE

  • @web
    @web 7 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Steve reviews V12 Ferrari -> smash that like button fifty times

    • @7cmhg840
      @7cmhg840 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly lol he ends up not liking the video

  • @Jinsun202
    @Jinsun202 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I remember Steve’s first review of the F12 a few years ago - he said (paraphrasing): I just don’t know where they go from here. How can they improve upon this?” - well, they just have! WOW!

    • @Sean-gq6vj
      @Sean-gq6vj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ex Cop he says it all the time...losing its novelty

  • @Vibe_Raider
    @Vibe_Raider 7 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Everybody hated the f12s styling when it first came out, i remember seeing comments saying the lines on the rear looked like a thong. When the next ferrari v12 coupe comes out everybody is going to say the 812 was way sexier and so on and so forth. I think this thing is sexy af.

    • @hasanal-habbobi4018
      @hasanal-habbobi4018 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Andres Gonzalez exactly people seem to never be able to tolerate change and embrace it... they keep clinging to the past. it's possible to like both!

    • @Maniacility
      @Maniacility 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's very noticeable that Pininfarina are no longer involved though. Neither the 488 nor the 812 wow me like the 458 and F12 both did when they were released.

    • @theknowlodge8294
      @theknowlodge8294 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.

    • @morshedahmed6064
      @morshedahmed6064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EI Rev Ders I am from 2019 and ferrari have realeased the Roma and it doesn't look sexy at all

    • @victornag5230
      @victornag5230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually LOVED the F12 when it came out and I still do. This doesn’t look horrible, imo from the rear it looks better than the f12 but I’m not a big fan of the front

  • @MTobin1000
    @MTobin1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    a great review in 14 min. much better than some other reviews that are longer. well done !

  • @HolfTim
    @HolfTim 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must say, video quality and editing has got up with these recent videos of AutoExpress! Keep up the good work

  • @alecisindahouse
    @alecisindahouse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hears Steve, clicks thumbs up

  • @SupercarAdvocates
    @SupercarAdvocates 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Perfect, ours has been ordered from a year ago...! Can't wait to get our hands on it. Thank you Auto Express, excellent review as always.

    • @89vette1
      @89vette1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you receive your 812? I’m thinking of ordering one.

    • @angelparker5897
      @angelparker5897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Instablaster

  • @Benaddicted11trkfbal
    @Benaddicted11trkfbal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know why people don't like the design. It looks like the most beautiful machine ever mad. It looks like a piece of art.

  • @richjohn9356
    @richjohn9356 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What until you see one in real life , they are stunning . Great vid Steve, the best motoring journalist , fantastic film work, especially at the beginning )

  • @7736164
    @7736164 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time I've ever seen Steve Sutcliffe mildly terrified behind the wheel. That says it all about the 812. Epic car.

  • @adeelcyril3339
    @adeelcyril3339 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a pleasure to hear Steve review cars! He's one the best!

  • @peteb1854
    @peteb1854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It seems to me that Ferrari have hit the absolute sweet spot in auto production. Can I imagine the car world without Ferrari? Quite simply, no. Can you?

    • @gregoryingram7561
      @gregoryingram7561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well since I've never owned one it's a difficult question for me to answer?

  • @GeneralmoffblogsBlogspotmoffvs
    @GeneralmoffblogsBlogspotmoffvs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely adore this car. After seeing it at Geneva, I wasn't too impressed, but after seeing it on the road I am completely besotted. The styling, the interior quality, the performance and drive ability aswell as it's somewhat practicality make it awesome.

  • @peterbennpan7288
    @peterbennpan7288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When ferrari invite stevie sutcliffe and chris harris to review and drive one of there new cars they have to make sure they have a truck load of rear tires on standby 😎

  • @vivekkaushik9508
    @vivekkaushik9508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the narration with epic background music.

  • @augustortiz
    @augustortiz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im always glad to hear Steve's voice. Sad he releases so little reviews lately

  • @p.b.678
    @p.b.678 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Steve Sutcliffe, you are my favourite by far test driver on you tube. You are a real specialist and speak perfect English that is easily understandable for not native speaker of English language like myself. All best.

  • @vagabundo6409
    @vagabundo6409 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love you Steve. You are the best :)

  • @innerhammer
    @innerhammer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I would rather say I like it early and laugh at guys saying "It's growing on me" later on. Ferrari cars and its fans are always like that, as history shows.

  • @nathanscott9075
    @nathanscott9075 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Downright epic car!! Love it, Steve Sutcliffe is one of the best out there atm imo, great review!

  • @charlesdrevet5861
    @charlesdrevet5861 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a beautiful review as always ! Just thank you ;)

  • @Starky513
    @Starky513 7 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    What a sexy machine.

  • @lashauntasamuel916
    @lashauntasamuel916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This ferrari is pure perfection.....i absolutely love this gorgeous machine

  • @Kaipeternicolas
    @Kaipeternicolas 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best 812 review so far!!

  • @SIFWD1
    @SIFWD1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy does the best reviews, interesting, informative and enthusiastic (Him and Chris Harris achieve this) Everyone else - step it up!

  • @alistairbell6728
    @alistairbell6728 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve he's the Man...I always look forward to his reviews. :) :)

  • @PKP1
    @PKP1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautifuly filmed ! and reviewed excepionally!

  • @seanpburke
    @seanpburke 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve's car control is incredible. Proper legend.

  • @gfunkmoney06
    @gfunkmoney06 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strangely my favorite part of the exterior design is the headlights! From a distance, they look like spider eyes. Very menacing and badass.

  • @holotropik
    @holotropik 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those rims are hypnotising 👍😁

    • @alialh9401
      @alialh9401 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine those in gloss black

  • @MrPro10
    @MrPro10 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff Steve. These things are getting psychotically fast now. I like the front end, I like the side view, it's just the back which is a bit dissapointing.

  • @istiaquemahmud1913
    @istiaquemahmud1913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why are you not uploading the huracan performante review yet??? you guys already driven it.

  • @chocolatte6157
    @chocolatte6157 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the review. Well done. It’s doubtful I will ever drive one, but what a kick in the pants it would be.

  • @YourGodsIcon
    @YourGodsIcon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The constant symphony that accompanies this vehicle is ludicrously awesome.

  • @coffeeblak86
    @coffeeblak86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I haven't got the bawls"
    lol!

  • @DwainDwight
    @DwainDwight 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review BTW

  • @ashjackson7
    @ashjackson7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, as always. Just wondering, how would you rate the 812 next to an Aventador S?

    • @TICKETDROPPER1984
      @TICKETDROPPER1984 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Two completely different cars (driving experience).
      I have an 812 and I have driven the Aventador. 812 has a dual clutch, while the Aventador has a single clutch which feels more “punchy” on gear changes. There are some throttle technics (lifting on gear changes) to smooth out the transition, but NOTHING compares to the dual clutch of the Ferrari.

  • @leeconstant7261
    @leeconstant7261 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remeber seeing Steve's autocar review of the f12 berlinetta in 2012 and him just being speechless. him saying (' where on earth do we go from here ') well 5 years later here we are lol.

  • @peterbennpan7288
    @peterbennpan7288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Music to my ears when you hear stevies voice at the beginning of a car review. 😎😎😎😎😎

  • @mikealanzo
    @mikealanzo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a car! A friend of mine has ordered his, it will arrive next summer, the wait is excruciating :), but as the saying goes: all good thing comes to those who wait. Hang in there Mika! :)

  • @dashaunwoody4612
    @dashaunwoody4612 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god the review was done by Steve 👏🏾

  • @mrpositive7084
    @mrpositive7084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Styling is Amazing!

  • @tt55k
    @tt55k 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classic design, beautiful in person, that engine!!! Can’t wait for mine !!!

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your spec?

  • @bobanppvc
    @bobanppvc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best review of 812 on youtube!Steve you are the man!
    Some dont like look of 812 but you have to look in 90s model it have definetly Ferrari design.I like it very much and that V12 N\A is diamond!488 is shittiest Ferrari ever

  • @wreckage-vs5jv
    @wreckage-vs5jv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you order the rear lights in non black/red design. I want orange turning lights.

  • @daveybaby10
    @daveybaby10 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That in tdf blue is just perfection

  • @ChrisDorgan
    @ChrisDorgan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    On video it's not as pretty as the F12... but then the 488 didn't look much on video either. In the metal... in the metal it could be glorious, just like the 488!

  • @dkent3853
    @dkent3853 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic video. Thanks!

  • @Alone1am
    @Alone1am 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A ferrari is an experience others are replicating it. Thise who run behind the bugattis for fastest hardly go fastest. But in a ferrari just sitting in a standstill car is an experience of a life time!

  • @pitaracer
    @pitaracer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I prefer the look of the f12, just like the 458 over the 488. Sorry Ferrari

    • @riccardo3622
      @riccardo3622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mhh yes, but the 488pista is stunning

    • @justarandomdude9346
      @justarandomdude9346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer the look of the 458 over the look of the 488 but I prefer the 812 superfast over the f12. I believe that the 812 is better at everything than the f12.

  • @haizatfaizi7665
    @haizatfaizi7665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My eyes and ear is only focus at that masterpiece V12 NA 800bhp engine!

  • @krutherford305
    @krutherford305 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve Sutcliffe is a great road tester, coz, of his enthusiasm, humility and honesty, not a hero driver like so many.. :)

  • @hockeymann88
    @hockeymann88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am not seeing the controversy around the style. To me it looks stunning. Maybe I am just mesmerized by the red paint but I think it's more then that.

    • @theknowlodge8294
      @theknowlodge8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hockeymann88 totally agree. Don't get it. It's an absolutely stunning looking car.

  • @CLMDADE
    @CLMDADE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    At some angles ,it looks like a Dodge Viper...

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CLMDADE it does

    • @alialh9401
      @alialh9401 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NO IT DOESN'T REEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @q-bert6454
      @q-bert6454 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and that’s sad.

    • @mrfixit3762
      @mrfixit3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your drunk n hi n half blind then it looks like a viper

  • @0042982
    @0042982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't afford skoda and I'm watching Ferrari 812 review!😂

  • @TheMuteemChannel
    @TheMuteemChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    why aren't there any pop up headlights on cars anymore? looked so fine imo....

  • @rmr5184
    @rmr5184 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    McLaren have always been amazing cars...but when I see these Ferraris I just have to admit that they are always a few steps ahead. Incredible car!

  • @johnv4866
    @johnv4866 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve sutcliffe does GREAT reviews. Right on par with Chris Harris, Jethro Bovingdon, and Henry Catchpole, IMO

  • @peterbennpan7288
    @peterbennpan7288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A funny sight for sore eyes stevie in that helmet. 🤓🤣😂

  • @jeokagem8002
    @jeokagem8002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The way it looks is a bit "FUSSY"?!?!?! What does that mean?!
    It is absolutely GORGEOUS!!! The stuff that dreams are made of!!!?
    In a time where a lot of cars are mimicking each other, NOBODY will confuse the 812 for anything but a Ferrari GT: Front-engined, RWD, V12, grand touring coupe that looks like it will bite whatever you're driving in half, WITH "black magic" performance and FOUR tail lights (i.e. the absence of MY personal "gripe" about recent Ferraris which only have 2; the F12 included).
    Now I just need to sell-off every-single-thing I have, and own (belongings, family, pets et al), to buy myself one! I'll worry about the insurance and the fuel bill after a year of saving up all my pennies!?

  • @Siskovski
    @Siskovski 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "My God it feels fast in straight line, absolu... Jesus Chris!!! Excuse my French" #Epic

  • @joffrey6831
    @joffrey6831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please what is the song at 3:36 ? :)

  • @rashadpleasant
    @rashadpleasant 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what track are they at? I must have missed it...

  • @valdezorbust
    @valdezorbust 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch a lot of TH-cam and there is no doubt that you guys need to turn up the volume a little.

  • @lucmanders2435
    @lucmanders2435 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just never really like when the front is as big as the pasengers seats plus the back

  • @greigsanderson
    @greigsanderson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best engine on earth.

  • @theRappinSpree
    @theRappinSpree 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like Steve says in every one of these V12 N/A Ferraris - impossible to see where they go from here :)

  • @nakul8568
    @nakul8568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I love this sound

  • @peterbennpan7288
    @peterbennpan7288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find it abit strange how ferrari have never been bothered to take any of there cars past 210 to 220 mph

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will go past 220. The 211 number is written as 211+ in the owners manual. This is because Ferrari has not tested it beyond that. Will it do more? Yes. I've seen 351 as a passenger and it had plenty left in it, we just ran out of road. This was on GPS @ 7900 rpm in 7th.

  • @tejas9304
    @tejas9304 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve is up there with Chris Harris .
    He sure does know how to drive.

  • @HesteBremse
    @HesteBremse 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Review!. Though I disagree on the Looks...

  • @elyasfy31
    @elyasfy31 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It reminds me of the Viper tooooo much

  • @DwainDwight
    @DwainDwight 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is by far the best Ferrari - the perfect combo - albeit at a big price tag, but it does it all. awesome car.

  • @michaelmadsen2268
    @michaelmadsen2268 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how much faster does laferrari feel? @Auto Express

  • @Richard_GIS
    @Richard_GIS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So epic, that acceleration is brutal

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The better word is "entertaining". There are faster cars, but it does it in a way that is truly special. It's not so much how it goes from 0-100 khp. It's more how it goes from 30 to 130 kph.

  • @whosAltoon
    @whosAltoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incoming the successor, the Ferrari Super DuperFast

  • @DizzS2K
    @DizzS2K 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay! Steve is awesome.

  • @rossrreyes
    @rossrreyes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ridiculous amounts of beauty

  • @hallquiche
    @hallquiche 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if it's the car or the review, or both but i have goosebumps.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the car:)

  • @BenJ.G
    @BenJ.G 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure the car is as fantastic as I can imagine, and that sound is absolutely incredible, but I do agree about the looks. I'm not a big fan of the "nostrils" on the front end, and I think I prefer the old 458 era headlights. These ones look like they're trying to be too aggressive. Hopefully Ferrari remembers that they don't need/want to look like Lamborghini.

  • @andyneocleous
    @andyneocleous 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I watch these kind of videos because one day I might just win the lottery :)

  • @SIFWD1
    @SIFWD1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a Boss of a Car! Just Wow! Way more impressive and appealing that its predecessor.

  • @LibertyWlk
    @LibertyWlk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This engine my god, I love this, I need this.

  • @SuryaDe
    @SuryaDe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not really a beautiful machine but definitely an amazing bit of kit as usual. What a car!

  • @CE11SCAN
    @CE11SCAN 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love steve sutcliffe's reviews and i agree the styling is a bit controversial the back of the car and front look lovely but the rear side windows and the alloys dont do it for me the first alloys on the yellow one are awesome they should of put this engine in the F12 along with the back end and the front of the car but the TDF is gorgeous however its easy to not like the car on a video and in pictures but in the flesh up personal it will look nice

  • @gfunkmoney06
    @gfunkmoney06 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The design language is so bizarre in this car. If you took a snapshot of the rear and front end dead on, and showed it to any random stranger unaware of the car, they'd probably guess they're from different cars!

  • @leeconstant7261
    @leeconstant7261 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you said it looks fussy steve lol. I felt that the very first time I seen it. it has way too many lines that just do not work well with each other. the rear of the car looks great to me the front abit of a dodge Viper and the rest just oddly shaped and placed slashes and scoops. the guts and skeleton of a perfect car is there but the looks broke my heart abit. not as pretty as the F12 :(

  • @chitpaul
    @chitpaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend has one of these but still has his, F12. The F12 is still that good he could not sell it.

  • @anthonydeluca6966
    @anthonydeluca6966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this car was fairly ugly when I first saw it. Like the 720s. But now I think its stunning, not like an f12 but close.

  • @vantage789
    @vantage789 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it interesting that the design of Ferrari's has become a secondary talking point. What happened to Ferrari's being the most beautiful cars on the planet? They haven't made a really beautiful car since the 355 in my opinion. Though I really loved the 360 when it was introduced I just don't think it's really stood the test of time.

  • @fundiver198
    @fundiver198 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant help thinking, that Ferrari have gone a bit overboard with their front engined V12´s. Even just 11 years ago the V12 Ferrari was the 575, which had a 5,7 liter V12 with 515-540 hp. Now we are already approaching 800 hp, and I find myself asking why? Was that really needed, and can anyone actually use that extra power on the public road?
    In some ways I find the 575 and the 550 more desirable than this 812. You got all the glory of a high revving V12, and more than enough power already. And they were more GT cars. Which in my opinion is, what a front engined V12 should be, and most historic V12 Ferraris have been like the Daytona.
    If I want a hardcore sportscar, then what exactly is wrong with the 488? The 488 is more than fast enough already, its better looking, and its better handling, because its a mid-engined vehicle.

  • @ltwracing
    @ltwracing 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice touch with the mismatch dubbing over video.

  • @Zilvinas021
    @Zilvinas021 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are a lot of really good cars in the same price range, but one thing differs the Ferrari from all and its the engine sound. At least for me there are no other car sounding better than a Ferrari with V12 engine.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is so much more to it. You can pull the engine and stick something else in there. When you drive it, you can still tell it's a Ferrari.

  • @chickendrama3390
    @chickendrama3390 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's very different from the usual Ferrari's, it's dipping it's toe into the Lamborghini styling (the very angular rear)

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you see it in the flesh, you'll see it's not as angular as you might think. It's actually very fluent and well proportioned. It looks big in pictures, but it's not as big as one would think either. It's more than 30 centimetres shorter than a Merc E class in fact, and only about as wide.

  • @wandisithebe6509
    @wandisithebe6509 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG, I thinks Ferrari have done it again. The "Golden Coin" for the moment. God I fucking love it. It breaks my heart that I can't get an actual cool Ferrari this time. AAAAAWWWW,♥️💥🏎🏁😲. One of a few very harsh traits of being a car guy.

  • @Deanyfromtheburgh
    @Deanyfromtheburgh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to make an old school guy's version with a manual gearbox and no traction control.

  • @wreckage-vs5jv
    @wreckage-vs5jv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it not named F12-2? Where does the 8 in 812 come from?