Just bought a Draumr 5.0, AWSOME!!! If your on the stock exchange I'm bying stock tomorrow! You have reinvented sleeping outside, but in total comfort! I'm sold.
Hi Didrik, I received your AMOK DRAUMR XL System at the end of March and have been using it since then. It is every thing that I have been looking for best nights sleeping under the stars hands down. Thanks Team AMOK. Much peace and love from north east Texas.
Great demonstration. I received the Draumr XL as a late Christmas gift and I cannot wait to get out with it. Still waiting for the snow to melt out of my favorite camping spots. Cheers.
Awesome. Didn’t think about how to get the front stick back in after you get in it(tends to come out when getting in the hammock and chair mode). Good idea. Looking forward to trying your ideas after I get my pad zipper repaired. Hope to see a Vlog shortly on proper setting up of the tarp.
So nice to put a face to your name! I’ve been emailing with you since 2016 about a longer version. I got my pre-order last month and can’t wait to get into the woods to try it out. Cheers sir! Jason C.
Been using the 3.0 for several years (more than 100 nights in it) and can't wait to test this one. Would love to make a comparison write up/video for it for my canadian hangers' brothers and sisters. Still a bit confused about the difference between the tarps now... But yeah, can't wait to try it (especially for the roomier space under bugnet and redesigned footbox, 3.0 in beer mode was making the footbox a bit complicated and with the bugnet, it was downright uncomfortable. Really thrilled!
We are working on some new videos so hopefully we'll get that out there pretty soon ;) Have a good trip! And don't hesitate to reach out to us at support@amokequipment.com if you have any specific questions or concerns.
What works for me is I stand beside the hammock. The Hammock is to my right as I face the foot end. I duck under the ridge line with my left hand on the ridge line. Then I put my right hand on the hammock to stabilize it and then I lay (plop) down on the hammock. I have the XL but seem to be too short at 5 foot 7 to do the fold up style sit down. This works well for me. Hope that helps. I really enjoy my AMOK.
I got the XL for a birthday present, can't wait to take it into the woods. Very useful video, thanks. Could you do a video on the best way to pitch the tarp for different weather conditions please? Ta.
Better late than never. I got my Daumr 5 a few days ago and have been struggling getting in even semi gracefully. I'm only 160cm tall or so. I had worked up to a forward entry from the side, but your folded seems great. The video finally explained chair mode, awesome! I was sent to this vid for the putting away demo. I'll practice that later. Another Canadian here... I saw another comment here. I use my hammock as my bed, so lots of nights in it! (I was using a Hennessey Expedition Zip.) I will be testing this with a Tensa 4 indoors once I get it out of duty jail!
@@pedroclaro7822 TLDR; I haven't noticed any wear yet, so about the same as a gathered hammock. It's hard to compare, I keep switching hammocks as I wash them, but I'm back to the Draumr for my nightly sleeps for the past couple of months. It isn't showing any real signs of wear and tear, but could use a wash. I find it very roomy, unlike my gathered-end (Hennessey Expedition Zip) or in-line flat lay (Haven Safari), however sometimes that coziness is good, especially if trying to heat the space with body heat on cold nights. On the other hand, the "closer" hammocks can get clammy at times and not let you cool off on warmer days. It does require some strategy for me to get in and out, as, like Hanna from Draumr, I am altitudinally challenged, but other than that, it lies flat when I want it to, it does the chair when I want it to (but my legs are a bit short for it). One has to be a bit more careful about balance when reaching for things that aren't right-at-hand (when phones fall out of the pockets or to zip/unzip the bug net etc.), but for the flat lie and comfort, I'm ok with that. So I'd say about the same I guess. Really, most hammocks are made with very similar materials, so I would expect the wear to be about the same. With them being mostly fixed in place, not being taken down and put up, I can't say about how the suspension lines would wear from that. I hope that helps some.
@@patrickbuick5459 that was quite in depth, thank you so much! Yeah it looks really comfortable compared to all other hammocks, though I can see it to be a bit tippy. Not using it outside in sun and dew definitely makes a difference, and yours should outlast many despite the use. “Altitudinally challenged” 🤣 Was it the best purchase out of those 3 hammocks? Seems to me to be the best of the best out there. There’s the CrossHammock but that’s pretty much a UL thing, still not as flat as the Draumr. (Plus it’s an extra 100 for the mosquito net)
@Pedro Claro That entirely depends on usage. Each has their (overlapping) uses and pluses and minuses. Hennessey: light, 2 sacs (hammock and fly). Does not require a mattress. Cool weather invites an underquilt or the model with the foam underneath (can be bulky). Cannot be used as a tent easily or effectively, though I could be wrong. Bivi bag? It is more comfortable than one would expect if used correctly. Amok Draumr: still pretty light. Needs air mattress and fly, so 3 bags. Can be used into cooler weather due to the possibly insulated air mattress. The mattress is required for operation. It dies, no hammock. This also doesn't seem like it would be able to be used as a tent, but more likely than the Hennessey. Haven: the regular model is still reasonably light. 3 bag setup, all collects together with what I call a "wrap flap". Not bad in cool weather, again due to an insulated air mattress. Can be used as a tent if necessary, touted in instructions. I gain, if mattress dies, hammock pretty much not usable, though i had a bad mattress and used it with it quite low. It was nowhere near as comfortable. Haven Safari - heavy canvas, some extra features, but more or less the same as the regular Haven. I now mostly car camp, sooo... tough choice honestly. I haven't had the Amok or Haven in the field yet. Perhaps I should do some parking lot camping lol.
Hi Didrik, About the bug net: In my house I have noticed that black bug nets on the windows have a better "look through" than whites and greys. Anything you considered? Loving my new Amok! Kristin
Cool! You can attach carabiners trough the loop on the hammock straps. In combination with some trad gear it should be possible to hang in your area as well. However, this is not a portaledge so hanging of rock is at your own risk. All the best- Didrik @ Amok
Hello! I’ve gotten turned on by this hammock and have had a run of bad luck with pads. What can you do with this hammock if you have a pad failure on the trail?
Hi Didrik, Been using my Amok for a year now and I have a question.... When I move about or turn over in the Amok it sounds like I'm sleeping on a bog of crisps! Is there anything I can do to stop this rustling noise, my camping mates our starting to moan about it. Thanks, Steve
Hi there! Cool of you to reach out. The coating on the Draumr 3.0 has different finish then our new hammock but some proper wear should lessen the noise after a while:)
Just received my AMOK Draumr today, going out to set it up. Just wondering about the stick, can I use other things besides a stick? I was thinking of using 1/2" Plex water line. I had a chance to set it up and the plex water line seems to work OK. Another question, the ridgeline seems to be very tight when I'm in the hammock, is there a certain tension it should have? I know on the gather end hammocks they say you should be able to bend it up using your fingers and not have it fiddle string tight. Not sure if this hammock is different.
I love it :) im gonna post a video where im using it one of the following days. But the tighter for the draw cord, is not strong enough. It keeps loosing the grip on the drawcord.. Besides that, its a beautifull hammock. I own the previous version also.
Amok Equipment it is now up on my profile, its defenitely a step up from the “old version”. Really great hammock. I strongly recommend it, I am very very picky about my gear no matter if we talking hammocks, pads, bags, tents - i only own the best ones. Im very picky. And I tried various hammocks, this is THE only hammock i never leave at home for any adventure trip. So good job Amok, it was worth the wait 🔥
One video showed pad in separate bag which was used to blow it up this video very good but his pad was already blown up....so what's the deal with the pad ..also is there a rain fly or rain protection? How much is this and how to order ...some bad reviews said on Amazon the one was a sham.....please answer very interested in purchasing hammock ...been checking on other brands like EMO etc....
Hello Gail While I cannot speak to the Draumr 1.0...? I have had the AMOK Draumr 2.0 and have been using it for several years and absolutely love it! Very easy to setup and I love camping in it and have had some of the best nights sleeping inside it! I loved it so much that when they announced the XL for taller people I got on the early pre-order bandwagon because I wanted a bit more room lengthwise, because at 6'2" the regular Draumr was a snug fit. You can order yours by going to www.amokequipment.com/
Hi Gail. You can find us on www.amokequipment.com The system relies on an inflatable sleeping pad similar to EXPED LW pads for insulation and structure, without it the system does not work. We will make a separate vidoe shoing how to use the FJØL LW pad that we make ourselves very soon. The sham you are reffering to was a Chinese company that gave the impression that they sold our gear, which they did not and people ended up with nothing at all or a cheap gathered end hammock. You can read all bout that here: www.amokequipment.com/blogs/news/ongoing-scam-update-12-min-read The Rainlfly is optional and something that you can buy additionally from us if you would like to.
Hello Didrik, Regarding the chair mode I saw that you started by raising the foot end, and then the head end. Did you then loosen (lower) the foot end after raising the head end? It appears that after you raised the head end the mat just folded down on it’s own. Did I miss a step? Thanks, Tom
Hi Jody, No, the only disadvantage would be weight of the hammock and pad. We hear back from a lot of customers that appreciate the extra room. If you should buy it and you're not happy you can return it within 60 days as long as it's clean and undamaged. All the best, Team Amok
Hi Mike, Yes, it's possible. You can check out Shug's video on setting up a hammock on the ground here: th-cam.com/video/0j54vMKGhiQ/w-d-xo.html It's a different hammock, but the principle is the same. Team Amok
We will make our own sticks that will be launched during the year. Pro tip: Try to find sticks with some life in them and that you have to slightly bend/force into the slots as they will hold better when you move around:)
Hello Didrik , I just ordered the regular Draumr 3.0. Will it have the same new features as the XL or is it the same as before? I’m referring to the smaller foot box, bug net over the ridge line, stick pockets etc. Thank you
Hi Max. Thanks for asking. To clearify, Draumr 3.0 does not exist any more. It will now be called either Draumr or Draumr XL depending on length. As you might notice in the video I explain that both Draumr and Draumr XL will have the exact same features, meaning that this tutorial have the same relevancy for both sizes:) Happy camping- Didrik @ Amok
Draumr 3.0 er ute av produksjon, nå er det Vanlig Draumr eller Draumr Xl som gjelder. Forskjellen på de to er lengden. Du kan velge mellom de her: www.amokequipment.no/ om du skal ha en tilsvarende Draumr 3.0 skal du trykke på 185.
haha den referansen til "get ready to be boyzvoiced" i staren var gull. Ser reviews etter reviews og nermer meg stygt til og bestille en selv, når eg får råd seffølgeligt
@@AmokEquipment the music is loud, the voices are low. So if i adjust the volume to the talk, then when the music starts it is far too loud. Great video otherwise
Yes, the idea is to use a stick from whatever tree you are hanging from. We know people have come up with other, more permanent solutions and we are also working on developing or sourcing some suitable poles, and when ready these will be offered as an accessory in our shop. :)
Just bought a Draumr 5.0, AWSOME!!! If your on the stock exchange I'm bying stock tomorrow!
You have reinvented sleeping outside, but in total comfort!
I'm sold.
Hi Didrik,
I received your AMOK DRAUMR XL System at the end of March and have been using it since then. It is every thing that I have been looking for best nights sleeping under the stars hands down. Thanks Team AMOK.
Much peace and love from north east Texas.
Great to hear from you Roger:) Peace and love right back from Norway!
Great demonstration. I received the Draumr XL as a late Christmas gift and I cannot wait to get out with it. Still waiting for the snow to melt out of my favorite camping spots. Cheers.
Thats awesome to hear! Hope you get a lot of good hangs during the season:)
Awesome. Didn’t think about how to get the front stick back in after you get in it(tends to come out when getting in the hammock and chair mode). Good idea. Looking forward to trying your ideas after I get my pad zipper repaired. Hope to see a Vlog shortly on proper setting up of the tarp.
Thanks for the feedback:) We will make one of the upcoming vLogs with the Tarp!
So nice to put a face to your name! I’ve been emailing with you since 2016 about a longer version. I got my pre-order last month and can’t wait to get into the woods to try it out. Cheers sir! Jason C.
Cool to hear from you Jason! Thank you for your continued support:)
I just bought the Amok 5.0 from my friends in Norway 🇳🇴 and I’m super stoked!!
We hope you'll like it! :D
Been using the 3.0 for several years (more than 100 nights in it) and can't wait to test this one. Would love to make a comparison write up/video for it for my canadian hangers' brothers and sisters.
Still a bit confused about the difference between the tarps now...
But yeah, can't wait to try it (especially for the roomier space under bugnet and redesigned footbox, 3.0 in beer mode was making the footbox a bit complicated and with the bugnet, it was downright uncomfortable.
Really thrilled!
Awesome hammock....now start saving money!😁 Ha det!
Laura
Would be nice to include how to set up the rain fly. But this was very helpful. Taking my new 5.0 out tomorrow night on a backpacking trip!!
We are working on some new videos so hopefully we'll get that out there pretty soon ;) Have a good trip! And don't hesitate to reach out to us at support@amokequipment.com if you have any specific questions or concerns.
What works for me is I stand beside the hammock. The Hammock is to my right as I face the foot end. I duck under the ridge line with my left hand on the ridge line. Then I put my right hand on the hammock to stabilize it and then I lay (plop) down on the hammock. I have the XL but seem to be too short at 5 foot 7 to do the fold up style sit down. This works well for me. Hope that helps. I really enjoy my AMOK.
Great take on the enetering process:) Need to try that one out for sure!
I got the XL for a birthday present, can't wait to take it into the woods. Very useful video, thanks. Could you do a video on the best way to pitch the tarp for different weather conditions please? Ta.
Awesome present you got there Mark! We will make one of the upcoming vLogs with the Tarp:)
@@AmokEquipment thanks very much!
Better late than never. I got my Daumr 5 a few days ago and have been struggling getting in even semi gracefully. I'm only 160cm tall or so. I had worked up to a forward entry from the side, but your folded seems great. The video finally explained chair mode, awesome! I was sent to this vid for the putting away demo. I'll practice that later.
Another Canadian here... I saw another comment here. I use my hammock as my bed, so lots of nights in it! (I was using a Hennessey Expedition Zip.) I will be testing this with a Tensa 4 indoors once I get it out of duty jail!
How's it holding up? better than the normal gathered end hammock?
@@pedroclaro7822 TLDR; I haven't noticed any wear yet, so about the same as a gathered hammock.
It's hard to compare, I keep switching hammocks as I wash them, but I'm back to the Draumr for my nightly sleeps for the past couple of months. It isn't showing any real signs of wear and tear, but could use a wash. I find it very roomy, unlike my gathered-end (Hennessey Expedition Zip) or in-line flat lay (Haven Safari), however sometimes that coziness is good, especially if trying to heat the space with body heat on cold nights. On the other hand, the "closer" hammocks can get clammy at times and not let you cool off on warmer days.
It does require some strategy for me to get in and out, as, like Hanna from Draumr, I am altitudinally challenged, but other than that, it lies flat when I want it to, it does the chair when I want it to (but my legs are a bit short for it). One has to be a bit more careful about balance when reaching for things that aren't right-at-hand (when phones fall out of the pockets or to zip/unzip the bug net etc.), but for the flat lie and comfort, I'm ok with that.
So I'd say about the same I guess. Really, most hammocks are made with very similar materials, so I would expect the wear to be about the same. With them being mostly fixed in place, not being taken down and put up, I can't say about how the suspension lines would wear from that.
I hope that helps some.
@@patrickbuick5459 that was quite in depth, thank you so much!
Yeah it looks really comfortable compared to all other hammocks, though I can see it to be a bit tippy. Not using it outside in sun and dew definitely makes a difference, and yours should outlast many despite the use.
“Altitudinally challenged” 🤣
Was it the best purchase out of those 3 hammocks? Seems to me to be the best of the best out there. There’s the CrossHammock but that’s pretty much a UL thing, still not as flat as the Draumr. (Plus it’s an extra 100 for the mosquito net)
@Pedro Claro That entirely depends on usage. Each has their (overlapping) uses and pluses and minuses.
Hennessey: light, 2 sacs (hammock and fly). Does not require a mattress. Cool weather invites an underquilt or the model with the foam underneath (can be bulky). Cannot be used as a tent easily or effectively, though I could be wrong. Bivi bag? It is more comfortable than one would expect if used correctly.
Amok Draumr: still pretty light. Needs air mattress and fly, so 3 bags. Can be used into cooler weather due to the possibly insulated air mattress. The mattress is required for operation. It dies, no hammock. This also doesn't seem like it would be able to be used as a tent, but more likely than the Hennessey.
Haven: the regular model is still reasonably light. 3 bag setup, all collects together with what I call a "wrap flap". Not bad in cool weather, again due to an insulated air mattress. Can be used as a tent if necessary, touted in instructions. I gain, if mattress dies, hammock pretty much not usable, though i had a bad mattress and used it with it quite low. It was nowhere near as comfortable.
Haven Safari - heavy canvas, some extra features, but more or less the same as the regular Haven.
I now mostly car camp, sooo... tough choice honestly. I haven't had the Amok or Haven in the field yet. Perhaps I should do some parking lot camping lol.
Das Ding is der Hammer 🤩👍
Hi Didrik,
About the bug net: In my house I have noticed that black bug nets on the windows have a better "look through" than whites and greys. Anything you considered? Loving my new Amok!
Kristin
Thanks for the feedback:) Its something that we will be looking into for the future for sure! Stay wild- Didrik @ Amok
Can confirm that the 5.0 has a black net.
Hi. Just got my XL and want to use it on the coast in areas without trees but a lot of ravines and boulders. Any experience with this kind of terrain?
Cool! You can attach carabiners trough the loop on the hammock straps. In combination with some trad gear it should be possible to hang in your area as well. However, this is not a portaledge so hanging of rock is at your own risk. All the best- Didrik @ Amok
Hello! I’ve gotten turned on by this hammock and have had a run of bad luck with pads. What can you do with this hammock if you have a pad failure on the trail?
Hi Didrik,
Been using my Amok for a year now and I have a question....
When I move about or turn over in the Amok it sounds like I'm sleeping on a bog of crisps!
Is there anything I can do to stop this rustling noise, my camping mates our starting to moan about it.
Thanks, Steve
Hi there! Cool of you to reach out. The coating on the Draumr 3.0 has different finish then our new hammock but some proper wear should lessen the noise after a while:)
Great Product! Might I ask how tall Didrik is? Mange hilsener from Germany!
Hello there. Didrik here, I am 182cm:) Ha en fin dag:)
Very helpful question - just helped me make my purchase!!! Danke!!!
Just received my AMOK Draumr today, going out to set it up. Just wondering about the stick, can I use other things besides a stick? I was thinking of using 1/2" Plex water line. I had a chance to set it up and the plex water line seems to work OK. Another question, the ridgeline seems to be very tight when I'm in the hammock, is there a certain tension it should have? I know on the gather end hammocks they say you should be able to bend it up using your fingers and not have it fiddle string tight. Not sure if this hammock is different.
funny, I tried pex too. kept popping out of the foot, so I re-engineered the footbox to use 2 shorter pieces of pex on the inside of the hammock
I love it :) im gonna post a video where im using it one of the following days.
But the tighter for the draw cord, is not strong enough. It keeps loosing the grip on the drawcord..
Besides that, its a beautifull hammock.
I own the previous version also.
Thanks for the feedback Hawk:)
Amok Equipment it is now up on my profile, its defenitely a step up from the “old version”. Really great hammock. I strongly recommend it, I am very very picky about my gear no matter if we talking hammocks, pads, bags, tents - i only own the best ones. Im very picky.
And I tried various hammocks, this is THE only hammock i never leave at home for any adventure trip. So good job Amok, it was worth the wait 🔥
One video showed pad in separate bag which was used to blow it up this video very good but his pad was already blown up....so what's the deal with the pad ..also is there a rain fly or rain protection? How much is this and how to order ...some bad reviews said on Amazon the one was a sham.....please answer very interested in purchasing hammock ...been checking on other brands like EMO etc....
Hello Gail
While I cannot speak to the Draumr 1.0...? I have had the AMOK Draumr 2.0 and have been using it for several years and absolutely love it! Very easy to setup and I love camping in it and have had some of the best nights sleeping inside it! I loved it so much that when they announced the XL for taller people I got on the early pre-order bandwagon because I wanted a bit more room lengthwise, because at 6'2" the regular Draumr was a snug fit.
You can order yours by going to www.amokequipment.com/
Hi Gail.
You can find us on www.amokequipment.com
The system relies on an inflatable sleeping pad similar to EXPED LW pads for insulation and structure, without it the system does not work. We will make a separate vidoe shoing how to use the FJØL LW pad that we make ourselves very soon.
The sham you are reffering to was a Chinese company that gave the impression that they sold our gear, which they did not and people ended up with nothing at all or a cheap gathered end hammock. You can read all bout that here: www.amokequipment.com/blogs/news/ongoing-scam-update-12-min-read
The Rainlfly is optional and something that you can buy additionally from us if you would like to.
Hello, I love your video. Can I use your video for my compilation about New Inventions That Are At Another Level? I will give you full credit!
Hello Didrik,
Regarding the chair mode I saw that you started by raising the foot end, and then the head end. Did you then loosen (lower) the foot end after raising the head end? It appears that after you raised the head end the mat just folded down on it’s own. Did I miss a step?
Thanks,
Tom
It works the opposite of what you think it would
Would there be any disadvantages in ordering the xl being only 5'9"? Seems like a little more room is always good. Not worried about any extra weight.
Hi Jody,
No, the only disadvantage would be weight of the hammock and pad. We hear back from a lot of customers that appreciate the extra room. If you should buy it and you're not happy you can return it within 60 days as long as it's clean and undamaged.
All the best,
Team Amok
How to properly inflate the mat / what is the correct inflation point and how to detect a good inflation?
Thanks for the input! We will see if we cant put it in our next video:)
Can you set this Hammock up if no trees are available in a pinch? Maybe use trekking poles to hold up the walls???
I'm considering using it on the PCT starting at Mexico
Hi Mike,
Yes, it's possible. You can check out Shug's video on setting up a hammock on the ground here: th-cam.com/video/0j54vMKGhiQ/w-d-xo.html
It's a different hammock, but the principle is the same.
Team Amok
Er det kun Amok som er forhandlere nå? Den står på lista over must haves 👍👍👍
Godt observert! Fra og med i år satser vi fullt og helt på direktesalg. Se ikke bort i fra at det kommer litt vlogging om temaet snarlig :-)
Samme her
Can you please show how to re-pack the Borg tarp? Thanks!
Great input! Will show it in the next How to Vlog which will be about the Tarp:)
Me in my amok 5.0 xl rn Trying to figure out how to enter chair mode.😅
Gee, that inflatable sleeping mat went into the stuff sack real easy! :p
Haha, I know! In retrospect we should probably have clearfied that you need to remove the pad first;)
My sticks keeping popping out, mostly at the foot, during the night. Any advice?
We will make our own sticks that will be launched during the year. Pro tip: Try to find sticks with some life in them and that you have to slightly bend/force into the slots as they will hold better when you move around:)
What are the minimum and maximum distances between trees for setting up the Draumr XL?
Hi Conan:) It is 2.4 m minimum and 6 m maximum (depending on the size of the tree trunk it might be less than 6 metres.
All the best
Didrik @ Amok
Thanx 🙏😇🤞🍀🍀🍀🤓
Hello Didrik , I just ordered the regular Draumr 3.0. Will it have the same new features as the XL or is it the same as before? I’m referring to the smaller foot box, bug net over the ridge line, stick pockets etc. Thank you
Hi Max. Thanks for asking. To clearify, Draumr 3.0 does not exist any more. It will now be called either Draumr or Draumr XL depending on length. As you might notice in the video I explain that both Draumr and Draumr XL will have the exact same features, meaning that this tutorial have the same relevancy for both sizes:) Happy camping- Didrik @ Amok
Går det ikke an å få vanlig Draumr 3.0 med tarp lenger?
Draumr 3.0 er ute av produksjon, nå er det Vanlig Draumr eller Draumr Xl som gjelder. Forskjellen på de to er lengden. Du kan velge mellom de her: www.amokequipment.no/ om du skal ha en tilsvarende Draumr 3.0 skal du trykke på 185.
👏👍👌🇳🇴 😷 og mye 💸💸🙉
Are you guys breathing helium?
haha den referansen til "get ready to be boyzvoiced" i staren var gull.
Ser reviews etter reviews og nermer meg stygt til og bestille en selv, når eg får råd seffølgeligt
Put a tablet computer on the ridge line for tv in bed.
If yeah need do go out and pee at night, you need do remove all the bug net?
Just zip it half open. No need to remove it completely:)
@@AmokEquipment okey! 👍 thanks for the quick reply, ordered me a hammock this weekend (:
music is too loud compared to his speech
Was there somthing wrong w the voice or this audio?
What were you thinking about? Can you be more specific?
@@AmokEquipment the music is loud, the voices are low. So if i adjust the volume to the talk, then when the music starts it is far too loud. Great video otherwise
@@tomaszeljko Thanks:) We will try to better ourselves moving forward:)
Stick ? Really?
Yes, the idea is to use a stick from whatever tree you are hanging from. We know people have come up with other, more permanent solutions and we are also working on developing or sourcing some suitable poles, and when ready these will be offered as an accessory in our shop.
:)