As much as I am a NaVi fan, that Faze Vs Spirit Quarter Final is one of the best matches I've seen in a LONG time, and in all honesty should've been the real final of the Major.
@@mrgamerxz7674I’m sure since hes well known to be very passionate about cs, he definitely has a lot of say and into goes into the videos and what not. I wouldn’t be surprised if he helped wrote parts of the script as well.
@@Ali_LI don’t think being sick can be blamed for the poor decision making he made as a whole on that map like yeah it can be blamed maybe for not getting certain kills but not the poor decision making
@@itzmrbeau6386not zontix fans but sick means you are not feeling well which can affect your decision making just because he have 1 bad series you offset all his goodplay whole tourney and blamed him sadge
@@itzmrbeau6386 when you are sick it absolutely does change things. being sick can make you feel tired, physically and mentally, and can really make it hard to flip the switch when you get off to a rough start because you just feel like wanting to lay down lol
You know this match was that good that someone made a video about it. This is a quarter final match btw and people say that this was suppose to be the finals match
yea for us he has insane reflexes but on the top lvl he deffently is a bit slower than someone like ropz, donk,sh1ro he also playd his whole live long so his pre-aim is very good and in pre aim you never get worse with age and it can make up for alot.
i imean, if you look at your own demo you might find you have that kind of "beyond human" too, nothing is "beyond human", he is a human just like you with almost the same reaction speed. I have 150ms reaction time and i believe it's faster than most pros, but im shit at the game and that number is just not a measure for the game
ive always loved watching karrigan especially the last few years with him on FaZe, him rain broky ropz and twistz were probably one of my favorite rosters of all time
Really good video. I would love to see lots more like this about the current state of teams and the background knowledge of counter strike teams and players that someone who is just getting into cs eSports can watch
idk if it was kariggan's genuis plan as this match was so close and that spirit are a new team with nerves one more clutch and they woulda lost it couldn't have been some plan to win them it. And what plan this whole video just explained the series what plan? Choosing vertigo ? They know he has less impact on vertigo due to past matches so was his grand plan choosing vertigo? I do think they had some setups or certain nades to stop rushes or try and isolate but this video showed very little to nothing on how they stopped D0nk but rather just a play by play of the match.
I absolutely love Karrigan and his story . Would love to see a video on his arc of being kicked from Faze to bringing Mouz up from the Dirt and finally to now.
Faze kicked twistzz to upgrade to frozen. I know everyone wants to paint it as twistzz leaving on his own, but the timeline says otherwise. Karrigan and Frozen confirmed Faze was in talks with frozen before talking with twistzz about his contract.
I haven't even heard Donk mentioned in any serious conversation in weeks. I expected him to be a flash in the pan for the most part, but not on this level, lmao.
This is like an essay where you make a statement and then most of the essay is proving it with arguments. He stated what the plan was briefly and then showed how well it worked as an argument. That's how I see it.
Karrigans plan is giving karrigan credit for wins but blaming his players for losses Thats why karrigan always points to his head when his team mate wins a clutch
It was a stretch to say that this was all part of Karrigan's plan. Last 2 maps were OT and the game was so close even the winning round was an insane clutch. Both teams played very well and Faze won that's it. I love Karrigan and I know he's great but let's not make it sound like everything was planned.I love this channel because they tell things as they are but not this time 😒
In EVERY single sport brains beat talent over an extended period of time. If you have both, then you're really cooking. I'm of course talking about sporta where you're directly competing against somebody else, i.e. 1v1, 5v5, 11v11, that kinda thing. I don't have any experience with stuff like javelin throw, where it's different because you are essentially competing against yourself, and indirectly competing against others
guys, why arent tesses and sjush not just going to falcons to play with dupreeh, zonics, and co. and maden and sunpayus play with kyxsan, and nertz. i feel like those would just benefit both teams greatly.
he's the one explaining it?! in his vlog he explained before the tournament that he would "float vertigo" against every opponent, thus "controlling the veto". and if you read between the lines the main reason for practicing vertigo, faze's permaban, was that it was the one map spirit had a known weakness on. so karrigan's strategy for the whole major arguably revolved around finding a way to beat spirit.
but they didnt outplay them on vertigo. It was 2 lucky rounds where the outplayed themselves by running out of time. 2 rounds that would've resulted in a Spirit win.
@@raphaelbricenio5908 Navi had just beaten G2 on Ancient so it was safe to say they at least didn't suck on Ancient. but tbh I don't remember what map people said karrigan should have picked instead of Ancient.
he has always been playing, but was too young for pro scene. just recently the age was changed to 16 for pros to attend tournaments. before he was playing lower tier stuff, you can check his faceit :D its not like his faceit is from last year. he is grinding since he is a kid.
@@chinpanzee5672 What he means is that the title is pure clickbait. No one got destroyed, especially not Donk. It was a highly competitive game with a razor-thin margin b/w winning and losing. And despite being on the losing side, Donk still played out of his mind. You want to see real destruction, watch Sprit vs Faze in Kato final.
What Karrigan lacks in reflexes due to age, he makes up with his genius intellect and experience. I truly believe that if you removed Karrigan from Faze and put in a young IGL, they would never be able to perform as good as Karrigan in IGL position.
Because Zywoo is actually Donk? Or because Zywoo plays for Team Spirit? Did you even bother to watch the video or read the title? Wtf does Zywoo have to do with a match up between Faze and Team Spirit?
Faze clan is about CT defensive strategy 😅 they strong at mirage CT and vertigo CT 😅 too strong defensive stand .. just ban that 2 map and they available
lets be honest spirit couldnt even dream about winning katowice if there was no cs2. they were mediocre in csgo and now that the competition is getting better theyre about to fadeaway. donk isnt bad but not even close to the hype and some people say some weird sexual things about him (also hes ego is cringe asf). shiro is actually someone i got respect for but wish he would perform this good in an actual team. no one even thinks of chopper cuz he never achieved anything before cs2 in his whole 11 years of career ( except CCT online events same as magixx). magixx is literally the goat of kardashians in cs 99% of community express sexual feelings towards him and thats the only thing he attracts. zontix gained public server level iq rep with his 999 iq fails. the ones who cheer for spirit act more like Faze haters than spirit fans(same as navi and vita)
donk has a lot to prove in the upcoming tournaments if he truly can be considered one of the best Sure individually hes super talented, but if the the team is absent from tier1 tournaments for 2 months it counts for nothing Betboom tier3 crap can be discounters as a warm up, he has to show up big in Dallas Don't get me wrong, the kid is a fckin machine but if it's not proven on tue big stage he's just another fpl talent and that's about it. It tier1 winning Katowice is awesome but not enough to be considered a to tier
Brother he proved himself on two arguably biggest stages (major and katowice) - EPL is tiny compared to this + they'll be in every event after this. Also half of the teams participating in betboom are top 10 t1 teams
Karrigan gotta cast after he retired man, that man's brains is just a goldmine
I believe he said he's interested in casting post retirement in one of FaZe eSports most recent vids
What about being a coach?
@@Azz0161thought he said analysing. He can do that from home
@@dennisluts4860 yeah, I think you're right actually. My bad.
As much as I am a NaVi fan, that Faze Vs Spirit Quarter Final is one of the best matches I've seen in a LONG time, and in all honesty should've been the real final of the Major.
broski i love your eu4 videos
I’m sorry Navi played well and everything but I feel like it was an off day off faze tbh😂😂
@@jakobsaldana46 Oh 100%.
@@jakobsaldana46in other words. Faze couldn’t show up when it mattered the most.
It was hella exiting but wasn’t really good quality cs
Karrigan be like: I don't need to git gud, WE need to PLAY GUD
Spirit is rent free in his head lol
I just love Dimitri's storytelling. You can really tell he has a passion for it and loves what he does.
He is the best guy for these videos!!
Pretty sure he only. Reads the script but how he presents it is very good
@@mrgamerxz7674I’m sure since hes well known to be very passionate about cs, he definitely has a lot of say and into goes into the videos and what not. I wouldn’t be surprised if he helped wrote parts of the script as well.
Really? I dislike him the most from theScore. A lot of it sounds fake to me. Never liked the way he presented things.
@@LUITESLIFE The guy has over 5000 hours in CS, he's not faking anything. He genuinely loves Counter Strike.
Oh I remember that Vertigo game.. zont1x just couldn't get the ball rolling and yet he ended up in so many 1vX late round clutches
yea unfortunate that he didnt have the best game
Zontix was sick Spunj talked about it on Talking Counter or Hltv Confirmed don't remember which
@@Ali_LI don’t think being sick can be blamed for the poor decision making he made as a whole on that map like yeah it can be blamed maybe for not getting certain kills but not the poor decision making
@@itzmrbeau6386not zontix fans but sick means you are not feeling well which can affect your decision making just because he have 1 bad series you offset all his goodplay whole tourney and blamed him sadge
@@itzmrbeau6386 when you are sick it absolutely does change things. being sick can make you feel tired, physically and mentally, and can really make it hard to flip the switch when you get off to a rough start because you just feel like wanting to lay down lol
You know this match was that good that someone made a video about it. This is a quarter final match btw and people say that this was suppose to be the finals match
The only thing I can think when they say karrigan is the inferno fragmovie
that's the only thing i think of whenever i hear that song now
you ready???
Karrigan lowlights
Lol, 4K vs navi on mirage
That means you are still new here.
Karrigan is 34 years old and his reflexes are beyond human... A living proof that you're never too old for this!
yea for us he has insane reflexes but on the top lvl he deffently is a bit slower than someone like ropz, donk,sh1ro he also playd his whole live long so his pre-aim is very good and in pre aim you never get worse with age and it can make up for alot.
i imean, if you look at your own demo you might find you have that kind of "beyond human" too, nothing is "beyond human", he is a human just like you with almost the same reaction speed. I have 150ms reaction time and i believe it's faster than most pros, but im shit at the game and that number is just not a measure for the game
Watching this game live was absolutely insane. Best game of the Major by far
ive always loved watching karrigan especially the last few years with him on FaZe, him rain broky ropz and twistz were probably one of my favorite rosters of all time
tldr Karrigan's Genius plan was to play GUD
Yeah...here I thought there was gonna be a secret strategy or something...no they just played gud, lol.
Really good video. I would love to see lots more like this about the current state of teams and the background knowledge of counter strike teams and players that someone who is just getting into cs eSports can watch
idk if it was kariggan's genuis plan as this match was so close and that spirit are a new team with nerves one more clutch and they woulda lost it couldn't have been some plan to win them it. And what plan this whole video just explained the series what plan? Choosing vertigo ? They know he has less impact on vertigo due to past matches so was his grand plan choosing vertigo? I do think they had some setups or certain nades to stop rushes or try and isolate but this video showed very little to nothing on how they stopped D0nk but rather just a play by play of the match.
yeah, very much a failed plan
Karrigan said he didnt care about beating spirit and vita after not winning the major :(
I absolutely love Karrigan and his story . Would love to see a video on his arc of being kicked from Faze to bringing Mouz up from the Dirt and finally to now.
best match of the major
karrigan needs a plan to destroy stewie2k and his freedom buff KEKW
Can’t believe you left out Donk’s almost 1v4 on mirage and Zontix choking round 12 on vertigo
Crazy how people think Frozen will be worse than Twistzz. He's arguably better than Twistzz these days
Faze kicked twistzz to upgrade to frozen. I know everyone wants to paint it as twistzz leaving on his own, but the timeline says otherwise. Karrigan and Frozen confirmed Faze was in talks with frozen before talking with twistzz about his contract.
Frozen has been terrible
@@vinaychawla5162bait used to be believable
True@@vinaychawla5162
It’s recency bias Forsure
Twistzz last few tournaments with faze he was going off
Really started lookin like he would possibly stay
I haven't even heard Donk mentioned in any serious conversation in weeks. I expected him to be a flash in the pan for the most part, but not on this level, lmao.
I have a dream looking ahh thumbnail
Vertigo once again become another 200iq outplay first made famous by astralis smacking team liquid in the face.
Ok but u didn't answer the question in the video. It was more of a recap than explaining karrigans plan
Totally agree.
This is like an essay where you make a statement and then most of the essay is proving it with arguments. He stated what the plan was briefly and then showed how well it worked as an argument. That's how I see it.
Karrigans plan is giving karrigan credit for wins but blaming his players for losses
Thats why karrigan always points to his head when his team mate wins a clutch
The plan was not banning vertigo
@@hoangnguyen8698still a very failed plan
great to see one of the old dogs still going strong
I have ABSOLUTELY!! NO DOUBT!!,.. that Karrigan will come up with a DONK strat,... he has done this for MANY YEARS!,.. he'll sort out Donk!!
donk will take over cs forever probably and im not even mad tbh
if zontix didnt tilt and play better on vertigo, spirit could win that serie
It was a stretch to say that this was all part of Karrigan's plan. Last 2 maps were OT and the game was so close even the winning round was an insane clutch. Both teams played very well and Faze won that's it. I love Karrigan and I know he's great but let's not make it sound like everything was planned.I love this channel because they tell things as they are but not this time 😒
this game was the true ending of pgl major 2024. Navi was a alternative ending.
You can jump to 7:00 and not watch also, its not worth your time, believe.
coconuthead from Ned's Survivalguide.
Karrigan will still be a coach at 90 years old
Genius plan? One more cluch for Sprit at vertigo and this video would by named "karrigan's blunder"
nah the fact that vertigo was so close anyway invalidates this
Considering they got stomped 0-3 this is definitely a genius plan
@@firasattieh6309Except it was 2-1 lol
@@KillOnS no hes talking about the previous final faze vs spirit
@@meat. The fact that vertigo is the weakest Spirit map invalidates this
Did allat to go 1/15 in the last map of the major 😂😂😂😂
😂😂
So basically, first we give them siima, then we pull the matto alta
faze vs spirit felt like 5 v 3 ngl
one of the craziest series
Genious
karr1gan's plan to defeat the young superstar was s1mple. (c) dimitri
2:19 " Apex Predator "
"Make spirit take the bait and then out play them"? This weirdo is just waffling
???
avg scoreesports video
In EVERY single sport brains beat talent over an extended period of time.
If you have both, then you're really cooking.
I'm of course talking about sporta where you're directly competing against somebody else, i.e. 1v1, 5v5, 11v11, that kinda thing. I don't have any experience with stuff like javelin throw, where it's different because you are essentially competing against yourself, and indirectly competing against others
We will not talk about final :3
guys, why arent tesses and sjush not just going to falcons to play with dupreeh, zonics, and co.
and maden and sunpayus play with kyxsan, and nertz. i feel like those would just benefit
both teams greatly.
Karrigan is a dazzler
faze v spirit is legit final in major
its very funny to think that people would buy the merch
Karrigan openly leaks his strategy on his TH-cam channels and team Spirit completely ignores it lol
Is karrigan even aware of this genius plan told in this video?
he's the one explaining it?! in his vlog he explained before the tournament that he would "float vertigo" against every opponent, thus "controlling the veto". and if you read between the lines the main reason for practicing vertigo, faze's permaban, was that it was the one map spirit had a known weakness on. so karrigan's strategy for the whole major arguably revolved around finding a way to beat spirit.
Will never forget karrigans fail vs kennys
but they didnt outplay them on vertigo. It was 2 lucky rounds where the outplayed themselves by running out of time. 2 rounds that would've resulted in a Spirit win.
That super ego shouting kid finally got humbled
34 yo old guy beaten by 16 yo boy
should've forced vertigo against na'vi as well during the major
in the format you cannot force a team play their permaban, they get to ban before you get to pick.
hmmpp wasn't ancient where na'vi struggled to before? i thought it was their best pick against them 2nd to that
@@raphaelbricenio5908 Navi had just beaten G2 on Ancient so it was safe to say they at least didn't suck on Ancient. but tbh I don't remember what map people said karrigan should have picked instead of Ancient.
I mean - donk has had one tourny. Where has he been the last couple months?
They haven't played since the game in the video bro
Spirit didnt qualify for Chengdu and EPL because they were LOW in ranking before KATO after EPL they are in Every Single Tournament!
@@joshuadavid3763 they return for every event after EPL and they played the two biggest
he has always been playing, but was too young for pro scene. just recently the age was changed to 16
for pros to attend tournaments. before he was playing lower tier stuff, you can check his faceit :D its not
like his faceit is from last year. he is grinding since he is a kid.
Karrigan lowlights last major 🤣
Nobody ever destroyed donk. It was donks teammates that let him down. Donk was the best player in the server during that match despite losing.
Well the game is 5v5 and team effort is always gonna be stronger than individuals
@@chinpanzee5672 of course. I never said otherwise
@@chinpanzee5672 What he means is that the title is pure clickbait. No one got destroyed, especially not Donk. It was a highly competitive game with a razor-thin margin b/w winning and losing. And despite being on the losing side, Donk still played out of his mind. You want to see real destruction, watch Sprit vs Faze in Kato final.
DER ER ET YNDIGT LAND!
Highly misleading title. Donk wasn't "Destroyed". He had highest ADR on all maps. Looking forward to these 2 teams locking horns later this year.
and now donk is avrage agian xD
Blud looks like the purple Donny from LazyTown
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I comment to help statistics
Like it or not, this guy is the GOAT of CS.
guys if u need a need editor, uhm.....
So... what was the plan?
Hot take: if donk isn't going to play more tournaments soon, I doubt he'll be in the top 3 this year, maybe not even in the top 5
he will play more tournaments soon tho, so...
@@alexanderying1558when are they supposed to play next? I don’t think they are going to IEM Dallas.
he is in every tournament after EPL
@@GunfordGaming they are in every event from IEM DALLAS they just missed EPL and chengdu cuz of low ranking before katowice
@@TopOnTops word thanks
Bruh, how do 2 members of Spirit look like they're 12 years old?
Aleksib video next
what karrigan's gambit? they're just been sweating for 3 games and then got win. that's it)
yeah unlucky spirit
Oink
notail
What Karrigan lacks in reflexes due to age, he makes up with his genius intellect and experience. I truly believe that if you removed Karrigan from Faze and put in a young IGL, they would never be able to perform as good as Karrigan in IGL position.
Ha...I dont get it
I dont think Donk is all that. He had a real good first tourney.
lol. he had highest adr in all three maps here
Yo
Only to lose to GStew
the score was 14-16 sounds like they just played right lol all this talk for one player seems a bit haterish
Team spirit maybe stop competing for now because of pro players doing cheating and get protection from the inside 😅
Donk who?
Team spirit who?
Yeah they're shit
who the hell is donk?
Seems like an odd video to put out a day or two after zywoo fucking smashed faze
have you heard of the editing and recording itself? or you only know the finished product
Because Zywoo is actually Donk? Or because Zywoo plays for Team Spirit? Did you even bother to watch the video or read the title? Wtf does Zywoo have to do with a match up between Faze and Team Spirit?
That's not a story worth telling
5 karrigans vs 5 donks, who wins?
donk easy
Can’t say I like the video much..kinda clickbait
1/15
Faze clan is about CT defensive strategy 😅 they strong at mirage CT and vertigo CT 😅 too strong defensive stand .. just ban that 2 map and they available
why is dimitri the host
zontix was so bad
Not only zontix even shiro
Am i the only one who thinks karrigan is far overrated
nah
Donk is so overrated it is Incredible
Was this comment before or after his 195 adr game?
see stats
& donk got shutdown after their win on Katowice, overrated.
this is so corny holy
fucking hate team spirit.
18 minute vid to say that he beat donk 😐
the literal video title is: Karrigan's Genius Revenge Plan to Destroy Donk
if you don't want to watch 18 minutes, don't click.
Tik Tok attention spans
why are u defending the video its boring & clickbait
lets be honest spirit couldnt even dream about winning katowice if there was no cs2.
they were mediocre in csgo and now that the competition is getting better theyre about to fadeaway.
donk isnt bad but not even close to the hype and some people say some weird sexual things about him (also hes ego is cringe asf).
shiro is actually someone i got respect for but wish he would perform this good in an actual team.
no one even thinks of chopper cuz he never achieved anything before cs2 in his whole 11 years of career ( except CCT online events same as magixx).
magixx is literally the goat of kardashians in cs 99% of community express sexual feelings towards him and thats the only thing he attracts.
zontix gained public server level iq rep with his 999 iq fails.
the ones who cheer for spirit act more like Faze haters than spirit fans(same as navi and vita)
Just sounds like Karrigan's genius plan to get carried by four amazing players, then take all the credit.
Just sounds like you didn't watch the video
@@maddin6273 real
@@maddin6273 I don't have to. I watched both matches.
You NOT being in a team tells a lot for not acknoledging an IGL. and YOU NOT BEING IN TEAM SAYS IT ALL.
@@thekeywag There's a ton of great IGLs. Karrigan's just not one of them.
second comment
Why do you spoil the ending of the video at the start with that intro lol. completely ruined it. i basically stopped watching after 2 min
It’s called a hook. The Score has phenomenal writers.
donk has a lot to prove in the upcoming tournaments if he truly can be considered one of the best
Sure individually hes super talented, but if the the team is absent from tier1 tournaments for 2 months it counts for nothing
Betboom tier3 crap can be discounters as a warm up, he has to show up big in Dallas
Don't get me wrong, the kid is a fckin machine but if it's not proven on tue big stage he's just another fpl talent and that's about it.
It tier1 winning Katowice is awesome but not enough to be considered a to tier
Brother he proved himself on two arguably biggest stages (major and katowice) - EPL is tiny compared to this + they'll be in every event after this.
Also half of the teams participating in betboom are top 10 t1 teams
his team mates also gave him an impressive amount of space to help him perform.
CS. Oh. 🥱