Abrams gets Buffed.. AGAIN?! - M1A2 M829A2 - War Thunder

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  • @kaedynbingham6829
    @kaedynbingham6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    They keep “buffing” the abrams because when any of then were introduced they were massively nerfed compared to what it should be. They are slowly creeping the abrams to what it should be just like they did the F4E

    • @Lolski_924
      @Lolski_924 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sep would like to have a word

  • @LongTimeAgoNL
    @LongTimeAgoNL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Ah yes, the beautifull M1A2, with its gen 1 thermals, export variant armor and SepV2 model, but sitting in the game as the non SepV1/2 model.
    Why dont Gaijin just leave this model alone, copy the damn model they already have in the game and slap it a SepV2 with gen 2 thermals and M829A2.

    • @balvarine8709
      @balvarine8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too close to IRL designs & Gaijin might get a visit from DHS

    • @beherith2874
      @beherith2874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I said this back when they added this junk tank. If they make a SEP modificaton for it now, Ill shit myself...

    • @fritzerichgeorgeduardvonma5615
      @fritzerichgeorgeduardvonma5615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@balvarine8709 will they?

    • @balvarine8709
      @balvarine8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fritzerichgeorgeduardvonma5615 They got one from the British MoD when a British tanker leaked Challenger 2 specs.

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beherith2874 they did now, but is just a frankenstein, is the same as the M1A2, except that it has TUSK and gen 2 thermals, but it is lacking the DU armour, which is... well... the thing that the Abrams is lacking in game, i really hope that in the update they change the armour values to fit the DU ones

  • @TheJudge2017
    @TheJudge2017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    You play the Abrams a hell of a lot better then I do. I get destroyed from across the map.
    On a side note, I still put the Toilet paper on all my top tier MBTs with the Bear Decoration on/near the gunner optics

  • @spxmm3r
    @spxmm3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The only reason gaijin gives dm53 and M829A2, is to have an excuse to add the T90M

    • @HusieK576
      @HusieK576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only reason gaijin doesn't add 3BM59 are "russian bias whiners"

  • @mathewhoneycutt691
    @mathewhoneycutt691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    They could put the sep tanks in a folder with the m1a2 at the start! But I doubt it

    • @mathewhoneycutt691
      @mathewhoneycutt691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@doktork3406 you make a fair point. Why didn't I think of that!

    • @bfmv-thepoison1347
      @bfmv-thepoison1347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man at this point people will do anything for the sepv3. Quite literally "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" situation lol.

    • @crimsonferret6258
      @crimsonferret6258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bfmv-thepoison1347 it’ll be a premium just watch lol

    • @bfmv-thepoison1347
      @bfmv-thepoison1347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crimsonferret6258 🤣 yeah wouldn't be surprised. Maybe at some point every tree will have their 2pl.

    • @omnipotank
      @omnipotank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doktork3406 if they folder it at the end, then both tanks in the folder will have end of line module RP cost.

  • @stuffzie8329
    @stuffzie8329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The MBT the US has been stuck with for...
    2 years now?

    • @mikailvito7200
      @mikailvito7200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Fr, maybe they just lazy or have a grudge against the US

    • @commandervocal3848
      @commandervocal3848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mikailvito7200 it’s a good possibility but Gaijin only loves the Germans and the Russians. I wish they’d show all the countries the same love, coming from someone who only plays outside of the big 3. It’s a struggle

    • @mikailvito7200
      @mikailvito7200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@commandervocal3848 i think it's just because those 3 nations have a lot more players so they just focus around them more

    • @lukewhitehouse4103
      @lukewhitehouse4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikailvito7200 They spend the most money mainly because other nations dont have busted premiums worth buying.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikailvito7200 Nah they have a grudge against the US for some wierd reason lmfao.
      idk why they cant be more like Squads developers, where they dont let their nationalism interefere with a good game.
      BR balancing on the US side is pretty shitty for the vietnam era stuff

  • @MrPokemonWT
    @MrPokemonWT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Releases devblog of new Challenger 2 with increased armor, soon after give many vehicles new stronger shells xd

    • @thomasmacdonough288
      @thomasmacdonough288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The new shells weren't even needed, new armour or not that poor Chally is gonna get flanked and spanked so hard
      I shudder to think how slow she is 😔

    • @Rubensflow
      @Rubensflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And then we have the Ariete

    • @solreaver83
      @solreaver83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thomasmacdonough288 people over exaggerate the speed of the challenge, it's a very mobile tank off rd and I often get to caps before they are taken. It's not super fast but it keeps its speed better then others offroad

    • @DeserteagleS71
      @DeserteagleS71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasmacdonough288 the challenger suffers from being an actual tank. Which means in game teammates should help but are useless. However I still love them like I love the cheiftain. Great for rofl stomping surprised players

    • @thomasmacdonough288
      @thomasmacdonough288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@solreaver83
      I play the 2F and 2E, the 2E is actually really good but the 2F I just gave up on bc without all the mobility mods I was hitting 10mph off road, the same mobility I'd expect from a Sherman

  • @AELEL122
    @AELEL122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Hopefully this is a nice change. I’ve been kinda feeling like the Abrams are not doing too well in this update lol

    • @Shooter10m
      @Shooter10m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who needs the abrams when you have adats with 50 spawns

    • @AELEL122
      @AELEL122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Shooter10m idk man… I can’t be the only one who’s been getting shot through the M1A2 and M1A1HC turret cheeks this update and dying in one shot for some reason…. Only happens rarely but still wtf

    • @lukewhitehouse4103
      @lukewhitehouse4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AELEL122 Thats not going to change even with the M1A2SEP Gaijin have made up estimates for turret protection.

    • @AELEL122
      @AELEL122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukewhitehouse4103 yeah but even last update I wasn’t getting shot through the turret. Also I’ve been having some ridiculous bounces with m829a1 lately like bouncing off the back of a t80 wood log or the sides lol

    • @Tanker000
      @Tanker000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukewhitehouse4103 gayjin

  • @icy3-1
    @icy3-1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ya boi Icy 3-1 here. Kudos for making this video immediately right after the changes got released and extra points for having a teddy bear on top of the CITV. And also, saying no to "Stop murdering the children" is a good response. I expect nothing less from one of the best :3
    Looking forward to getting this round on my M1A2 soon. Still working my way to getting the turret drive mods, crew rep, and the LRF. Then it's on to thermals and M829A2. Must be nice being able to pen the front plate of Leo 2s even at range with it

  • @space9789
    @space9789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sincerely, we needed M1A2 SEP variants and buffed repair cost instead of new sabot.... :(

  • @mohdktln
    @mohdktln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I suggest you do a series on rarest but fun vehicles in the game such as the VT1-2, the IS7 or even the VFW
    they are rare and fun which would bring more views to you... I hope..

    • @joestueckrath5275
      @joestueckrath5275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add a M60 AMBT video on to that . It’s a fan favorite

    • @stoax
      @stoax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      VT1-2 video is already on the channel i think

  • @S0l0117
    @S0l0117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As the abrams should be. So much disrespect from gaijin

  • @mattin5850
    @mattin5850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Dm53 on l/44 should have way less pen around 600 or 590 imo and this also brings up a question, if leo 2a5 and 2pl got it, why cant m1a1 m829a1 and HC get m829a2

    • @topbanana.2627
      @topbanana.2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because dadablyat i miss when the first abrams was added and it was the best tank in the game. Completely overpowered. Look how far we've sunk

    • @yedidyah
      @yedidyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, it shouldn't lol. And 2PL has not received DM53, it kept its DM43.

    • @AevryV
      @AevryV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      M829A1 at 10.3 is too OP so the M1A1 is stuck with M829 which is still competitive at top tier

    • @vladimirvojtaml
      @vladimirvojtaml 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also maybe reverse the pen nerf on the 3BM60?

    • @topbanana.2627
      @topbanana.2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladimirvojtaml for sure

  • @mattyice2099
    @mattyice2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It should keep getting buffed until it can 1 hit the T-72 like in real life 😆

  • @MLPdraedek
    @MLPdraedek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's funny how they'll give russia seperate tanks for the t-70/80, but only a few abrams for america, upgrading the parts on the current tanks

    • @DeathDealer1825
      @DeathDealer1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not like it's unfair russia suffers alot a majority of the tanks even new ones dont have thermals but other people get thermals at 8.3 br russia only gets that with the bmp not to mention their tanks have the worst gun depression and alot of disadvantages to their counterparts just like in real life

    • @Dominator2930
      @Dominator2930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeathDealer1825 I have 10.7 in US, RU, and GER, all of them have strengths/weaknesses. US is great mobility and pen, but armor and thermals lags behind. GER is great armor, pen, and thermals, but their mobility isnt quite the same as US. RU is meh thermals, good pen, great armor but prone to one shots, and great mobility only in forward. The extra depression on US and GER are nice, but map knowledge and positioning will take care of the issue 75% of the time. BMP-2M is also the best squadron vehicle in game with the L2-PL. Plus Russian ERA is extremely trolly and absorbing shots it shouldn't, I got hit by 6 Hellfires today from the side aspect and I didnt die until they hit me with 3 more. I'm not saying its necessarily intentional, but Russia does seem to get the biggest breaks. Germany is the best overall nation, but its players tend to be braindead even at top tier. Meanwhile every US/RU team I face are like brain surgeons comparatively to Germany

    • @DeathDealer1825
      @DeathDealer1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 yea totally that's why russian top tier mbts are like tin cans and prone to one shots because of the horrible crew spacing even the bvm has quite a few frontal weak spots yet the abrams is like a fortress from the front it pisses me off that people get mad about russia getting better rounds when most of the russian tanks will get 1 shotted a majority of the time dont forget the lack of thermals in most of their higher tier tanks when a bunch of other tanks at 8.0+ get them terrible gun depression slow turret traverse and unbearable reverse speed and slow forward speed but the abrams being a moving fortress glides along with no problem I always have problems fighting abrams with any of the T series tanks if they see me first I have been playing long enough to understand the map layouts that has nothing to do with it russia is behind on tech in real life too I dont see why people dont get that also it's no surprise that they have multiple t series variants because they have them in real life too but there is only 3 or 4 abrams variants in real life what do you expect them to do add what doesn't exist? They could add the m1a2 sepv1 which is the best Abrams to date with upgraded systems and they are probably already gonna do it so don't keep your panties in a bunch too long

    • @DeathDealer1825
      @DeathDealer1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 there is plenty of things I can say that proves that statement wrong going off of how they perform in a game is bs which they definitely have some downsides on there too abrams crap on Russian mbts there is only 18 abrams tanks ever recorded being lost in service 9 of which were due to damage or FF and the t series tanks during conflicts were getting killed left and right and no I'm not forgetting the multiple countries that operated them either alot of it was skill issue but idc if it's a game comparing russian tanks to the most survivable mbt ever built is stupid because the abrams will always be better regardless and I love soviet military stuff but truth is truth abrams is probably the best tank design ever built at least so far with lots of space no arguing that if gaijin did it right the abrams would stay top dog

    • @DeathDealer1825
      @DeathDealer1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 I sure dont see any russian tanks in the game with 630 mm pen sabots

  • @purplenurp5590
    @purplenurp5590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think gaijin is waiting to add the sep abrams, t90m and the leo 2a7 together

    • @rayotoxi1509
      @rayotoxi1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope the t90m gets 3bm59 svients what uses uranium with and same length as 3bm60 and if this dosent get atleast 600mm pen am gonna massacre Wt out of my pc

    • @thebirbestbirb
      @thebirbestbirb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rayotoxi1509 nope they can't even make the Abrams realistically or give it any balence

    • @FoxtrotStudi0s
      @FoxtrotStudi0s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Gaijin: introducing T90M, T14 Aramata, 2A7V, K2, Type 10, Challenger 3!
      America: what about us?
      Gaijin: Oh, uh. Here you get the SEP V1 Abrams from 1999, with the M829A3
      America: thats it?
      gaijin: oh and look at that, you guys finally get 650mm of pen! Isnt that neat????
      America: But the A3 round is estimated at around 800mmm....
      Gaijin: shut the fuck up before I add another 7 russian mbt's and give you a 50k repair cost.

    • @yedidyah
      @yedidyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      M1A2 SEP v2, Leopard 2A7 and T-90M Proryv-3 should be good counterparts to each other. 3BM59 with DU isn't much better than 3BM60 with the tungsten penetrator

    • @Serkay64
      @Serkay64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yedidyah The normal Leopard 2A7 wouldn't really be any different in capabilites to the 2A6.

  • @armadillo3454
    @armadillo3454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man wait until people learn that the abrams has 2 more rounds that could be added lol

  • @iclimbeverything2990
    @iclimbeverything2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bro the win dynamic for top tier america is like 40% lmfao

  • @LILKRANKIN
    @LILKRANKIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    They add a new round for the Abrams that’s not even equal with 2A6’s DM53, didn’t fix the ridiculous repair costs, and give the 2A5 DM53 which is almost as powerful as the A2 and more powerful than the silver bullet. It boggles my mind how much gaijin refuses to make the Abrams equal with the leo 2.

    • @FoxtrotStudi0s
      @FoxtrotStudi0s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      what boggles my mind is people are still complaining that this makes the abrams overpowered, when it still isnt nowhere as good as its 11.0 counterparts other than the ariete. Us Abrams mains have no armor, the worst thermal setup, the oldest 11.0 MBT, and now a round that is inaccurate for the sake of trying to make the leo look good, even though the M829A2 is on par if not better than DM53.

    • @Stratman20928
      @Stratman20928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh boo hoo American mains always complaining because they don’t have the best tanks in the game

    • @dyerleader
      @dyerleader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      New round is underperforming

    • @hernandonp8216
      @hernandonp8216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i really dont mind about the A2 not on par with DM53 but gaijin need to lower M1A2 service cost 12k for "just good" is not worth it like 2a6 godly ammo and better survivability is sit on what 7k spaded and you can spawn 4 soviet mbt without worrying about the service cost is not fair

    • @topbanana.2627
      @topbanana.2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe because its not equal to the 2A6? Thats what makes the game interesting. Having a variety, different tanks. Having all tanks being the same would be super boring. Would just be the same tank that look different. Whats the point? Some tanks would be better than others. Its how it is. Especially since they take real life values

  • @cassiussuissac
    @cassiussuissac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Less goooo a new justin vid. Good luck in LA!

  • @addedcheese
    @addedcheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like this gradual updating of the A2 is what will happen with the F4 EJ kai for the japanese

  • @ARCtrooper_bliz
    @ARCtrooper_bliz ปีที่แล้ว

    This man.. i cannot stop watching

  • @thealphauser13
    @thealphauser13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I want an Abrams with Gen 2 Thermals

  • @winchesterchua3311
    @winchesterchua3311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With the new update, I have to say goodbye to my pershings.

    • @balduglydonut5338
      @balduglydonut5338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All 3 of them are now 6.7
      Literally unplayable

    • @winchesterchua3311
      @winchesterchua3311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@balduglydonut5338 Or so I thought, cuz with the new repair costs update, I am having a lot of fun at 6.7.

  • @zerginfestorhots6132
    @zerginfestorhots6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looking back at this:
    -The new round barely changed anything except for downtiers. It's still underperforming horribly considering the round is literally designed with an anti-ERA tip to counter kontakt 5 plates (USA discovered the plates when the soviet union collapsed).

  • @K_GHOST225
    @K_GHOST225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's still nerfed, M829A2 should penetrate 750mm minimum irl. 3BM60 is also nerfed along with most other top tier rounds. Artificial balance is trash.

  • @BasTSLA
    @BasTSLA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Justin for the great video always make my day

  • @streetlife8910
    @streetlife8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The need the have the sep v3 as a upgrade kit for the already existing M1A2 just like the t80bvm contact 5 upgrade filed kit so when ever any one get it it will make your thermal optic goes to like gen 2 or gen 3 and the armor spec goes up as well also add in more camouflage for the M1A2 will be nice feature as well

    • @streetlife8910
      @streetlife8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 it’s still the same basic overall tank same gun same ammo types the only different is the ERA package and the thermal are you serious you want to grind like 300 k research point all over agin just for the thermal optics and the era package you must be joking right that’s only my opinion.

    • @yedidyah
      @yedidyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Where did that come from?! Oo the SEP v3 is pretty much an entirely new tank with so much stuff changed, it wouldn't warrant it to be an upgrade kit. Plus it is pretty much a tank to counter T-14. Additionally the T-80BVM has Relikt, not Kontakt-5. SEP v3 has a lot of changes to the internal armor layout, not just "different thermals".

    • @streetlife8910
      @streetlife8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yedidyah first things first it’s still the same engine and overall another blueprint based on the M1A2 like I said it’s pack the same punch only difference is the ammo types and a CROWS on top of turret with new models for the sep has low profile CROWS and a better thermal optics no need for throwing another tank research spot to the frey unless you wanna grind all over agin witch take time or even money and I forgot to mention sep has LWRS maybe on the later versions and that pretty much all to say about it

    • @streetlife8910
      @streetlife8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yedidyah and they still can add change to the inner armor thickness as they wish if you unlock the kit and rise the battle rating a bit and besides no one knows a lot about the armata anything yet I don’t think we are going to see in war thunder for a year or two even so it’s going to be hard for gaijin to have the armor value spec for the t14 anyway due to it been hush hush Russian classified tank .

    • @yedidyah
      @yedidyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@streetlife8910 It wouldn't make any sense, plus would generate in less money to make.

  • @harryparker583
    @harryparker583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:13 That guy is a TH-camr, he does lots of CAS montages, he’s really good with planes and helis.

  • @nomad2ghostwaker676
    @nomad2ghostwaker676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That shot on the t72 on the train is just rude 🤣

  • @gonb3259
    @gonb3259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yedidya: Stop murdering the children
    Justin: N o

  • @noaho0862
    @noaho0862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel so much best war thunder youtuber!

  • @theepicjs5541
    @theepicjs5541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    KA-50 pro gameplay, keep landing gear down so you can land instantly without pulling back out the landing gear

  • @paulkennethmira8155
    @paulkennethmira8155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's one left in Abrams his era it would be epic to see her in complete dress because Russian tanks has era they put and why abrams put his additional armor so it will be balance
    T-90A with era
    T80BVM with era
    T-72B with era
    And why the Abrams don't have his era is it OP or they don't like to put the
    M1A2 sep TUSK 2
    Sorry for editing😁

  • @androidynamit
    @androidynamit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:04 "what ya gonna do? Reverse? You are a russian Tank!" XDXD

  • @haloiceflame
    @haloiceflame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Need the TUSK upgrade to compete with the Russian era

    • @wellijosh7431
      @wellijosh7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I completely agree cause sometimes Russian era especially on the side I get non-pens like…. What

    • @wellijosh7431
      @wellijosh7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tusk 2 would be nice*

    • @topbanana.2627
      @topbanana.2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wellijosh7431 thats... Sort of the point...

    • @ikill-98
      @ikill-98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes agree but it wouldn't do much against apfsds but it will be good and effective against stock tanks

    • @wellijosh7431
      @wellijosh7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@topbanana.2627 yeah I know it stops heat but when it stops sabo from a direct side shot which it shouldn’t…

  • @moodslayer
    @moodslayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else getting a bug where m829a2 is still being labeled as m829a1 despite having the stats and everything else for the new round ?

  • @lofikhat5877
    @lofikhat5877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this guys lineup repair cost, is worth how much silver lions i have currently

  • @noahkarlsen8455
    @noahkarlsen8455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they really dont want to add a new abrams they should make it better with diffrent kind of opgrades like new armor kits for it like something we have been seen in operation desert storm. And at least give the new shot some of the real power it acually have instead of adding 30 milimeters exstra pen🤦‍♀️😅

  • @TC-yv3ud
    @TC-yv3ud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GGs on carpathians

  • @extraordinarytv5451
    @extraordinarytv5451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    imagine once they add m829a4 with 800mm of pen or t14 with a 1000mm pen round

    • @rena4133
      @rena4133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Real DM53 has over 900mm+ of penetration but in Game is 652mm-ish so, No.

    • @janwucherer3628
      @janwucherer3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dm53 on a leopard 2a6 has 750 penn irl. The dm73 on the leopard 2a7 has 1000mm penn.

    • @janwucherer3628
      @janwucherer3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ik t14 armata is better

    • @omnipotank
      @omnipotank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are Line of Sight (LoS) penetrations against a plate angled at 68 degrees just FYI... DM53 in game has 732mm LoS penetration at 60 degrees. 617mm LoS penetration at 30 degrees and 635 at 0 degrees. If anything, it is missing penetration at 30 degrees. APFSDS_long or long rod penetrators are much more effective against angled armor.
      At 68 degrees, DM53 would penetrate 281mm of armor according to the 750mm value.
      If m829a4 goes through 800mm LoS at 68, then that isn't much better than DM53 in the grand scheme of things. Would be a 300mm plate at 68 degrees. Then extrapolated back based on DM53 values ...
      0 degrees - 677mm LoS or 677mm at 0
      30 degrees - 759mm LoS or 570mm at 30
      60 degrees - 774mm LoS or 387mm at 60

  • @AJ-happydad
    @AJ-happydad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The m1a2 and the f4e are both getting power crept out of the game leaving USA the weakest of the big 3 at top tier

    • @FinalBossNunu
      @FinalBossNunu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      what how lol usa is easily the strongest if u ask me when u can bring ur F-4E in ground with 4 laser guided rockets, as ground the m1a2 is such a nice tank to play since its faster than a 2a6 and with the new shell change ur doing pretty good +6 seconds reload which u can follow with the m1a1 hc and adats can still shit on tanks... some of yall want to bounce everything and one shoot whatever gets in your sight

    • @ofekk213
      @ofekk213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FinalBossNunu you clearly have no idea what youre talking about. toptier CAS is dead because of tunguskas, those are TV guided rockets and bombs not laser. t80bvm is faster than an m1a2 on a straight line and the leo2a5 is only very slightly slower, while having a much better gun. leo2a5 has same reload as the m1a2 and bvm has a faster reload than both.
      m829a2 is a bit underwhelming than what i've expected but its a welcome addition. i just hope gaijoob wont use this as an excuse to gib russia the t90m.

    • @FinalBossNunu
      @FinalBossNunu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ofekk213 keep thinking like that bro, do you even have the tanks/planes spaded? tunguskas is not able to destroy an F-4E that climbed to like 7-8k meters you clearly dont play top tier

    • @FinalBossNunu
      @FinalBossNunu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ofekk213 and again bro how can u compare the T-80's/T-90, if you shoot them between the tracks you will kill them we are talking about tanks with 3 crew members and no space

    • @d_daniel6263
      @d_daniel6263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ofekk213 how does the bvm have better reload than abrams or leopard? Both reload at 6.0s with ace crew

  • @alexsocool9535
    @alexsocool9535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how you have that backround where the people are there?

  • @shannonseath7361
    @shannonseath7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now with the new announcement of the new Abrams do you think warthunder will release that long side the release of the new tank or wishful thinking

  • @12LoLproductions
    @12LoLproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    M829A2's projectile weight is wrong, it should be heavier since it's a longer rod

  • @nelsoncheng2674
    @nelsoncheng2674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a new Abrams, we do.

  • @anonymousontheinternet1309
    @anonymousontheinternet1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound so much like ChrisFix at 2:50 I had to do a double take

  • @thunderresistant
    @thunderresistant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    KV2 vs Abrams, what kind of drugs do devs do 😂

  • @cold-warfool7512
    @cold-warfool7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should see the Super Pershing repair cost.

  • @PotatoeJoe69
    @PotatoeJoe69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean it's unrealistically shit in the game. In real life, the gun mantlet is not a weak spot; it's just as thick as the turret cheeks, and irl the turret cheeks are between 1000 and 1200mm rha equivalent. Also, the glacis, the poor glacis that the game seems to thinks is only like 400mm... No. It's between 700 and 900mm in real life.

  • @julianviefers6703
    @julianviefers6703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly they should just give it better thermals instead, at least for the commander sight. Only having gen 1 thermals really sucks

  • @Spougggaato138
    @Spougggaato138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now do a vid of the 2a5 with dm53, totally nuts !!!

  • @LuixWalkingDead21
    @LuixWalkingDead21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:55 "Boss you killed a child"

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    So the M1A2 already had an incredibly powerful round and it got an even better one, not going to complain it's awesome but the upcoming Leclerc S21 doesn't get a new shell and neither does the new Challenger 2 TES, I could argue that those 2 upcoming MBTs need a new round more than the M1A2, they could bring a new, better variant of the Abrams then introduce the M829A2, wouldn't that make more sense? I would also like to see the M1A1 get the M829A1 plus a move up to 10.7.

    • @vikneshvisva3881
      @vikneshvisva3881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 Just the BVM really. 70% winrate compared to every other nations 40-50%

    • @michaelramos9120
      @michaelramos9120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.mercuryidk3757 thank god i own both of them 🥲

    • @MyLonewolf25
      @MyLonewolf25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It still doesn’t even compete with the 2a6 or 2a5

    • @adityabora9131
      @adityabora9131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      USA didn't need a new shell, they need a new MBT with improved thermals

    • @mattin5850
      @mattin5850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adityabora9131 some german main or russian will pull a document out of their ass by swedes saying its only gen 1+ and gaijin will take it

  • @antoniojmols
    @antoniojmols 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    M1a2 is great, only have the engine sound problem.

  • @nekthekoy1
    @nekthekoy1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you find that nice camo?

  • @PaPaFiggy69
    @PaPaFiggy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its sad the round its not as close to its accurate to its actual pen but wht did i expect?

  • @KettleFanDayo
    @KettleFanDayo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey justin, care to share the crosshair mod? kinda looks cool tbh.

  • @S1su
    @S1su 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I get those cheek squares?

  • @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976
    @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish people made videos of there grind to top tier

  • @majorpark
    @majorpark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really like that skin

  • @eneasss2673
    @eneasss2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey justin what are your graphics settings?

  • @Samuel-vm7hn
    @Samuel-vm7hn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    it's depressing watching italy fall farther and farther behind

    • @InterstellarTaco
      @InterstellarTaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well their Armored units in real life are pretty far behind. They don't put much money and resources towards maneuver forces.

    • @Samuel-vm7hn
      @Samuel-vm7hn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@InterstellarTaco that doesnt mean they dont have anything to add to the game, not to mention their air tree and heli tree are also behind where they have stuff to add. they can give a mangusta some spikes, they can add an early tornado, and they can give the ground vehicles better ammo

    • @Sh-epard
      @Sh-epard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InterstellarTaco there are still tons of vehicles which we have developed during and a little after Cold War (also received as helps from US...).
      I've made a list on the previous video on the Centauro Romor, you will be surprise of that.
      If Gaijin adopt the same politics from other nations (which i highly doubt even with some nations full of prototypes in the TT, URRS first of all...) maybe Italy will be a little better on the ground aspect, but...i have no trust on it.
      I played it and loved...it's my nation, proud of what tanks we have (for the time i take a break, Dardo finally was added), but there are still many vehicles left behind, some are also an important presence in our military, others just funny experiments (like the VCC-80 with the 60mm HVG, also tested on the Centauro hull before the VBM Freccia was born).

    • @Sh-epard
      @Sh-epard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samuel-vm7hn the only problem it's relative to my first thought after read the M829A2 value; a minor nation can't have a better round than a major one...and CL3143 was just a tiny bit less powerful than M829A2.
      Also finding out if we have stocks of new rounds (DM53 or M338 for our L44 gun, as example) instead what the game offer.
      This is an effort for the developers or relative helpers...maybe there is a little spark of hope but i highly doubt.

    • @Toctor
      @Toctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least they get post 2007 tech usa is still sitting at 1992

  • @rutokelavra819
    @rutokelavra819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:46 Nice spawncamp!!

  • @AgedSwissCheese
    @AgedSwissCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid!

  • @maciejmusielak5160
    @maciejmusielak5160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah, but his opponent has buffed armor :D

  • @TiraJ.
    @TiraJ. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's Sylph R in your Vid at 10:06

  • @user-qc9rs4fk1u
    @user-qc9rs4fk1u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can i find those abram sights i just got m1a2

  • @pendraig5446
    @pendraig5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another reason why not to leave M1A2.
    Ps: M1A2 is my most played vehicle according to my stats

    • @faceripper77
      @faceripper77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you play it? Speed to a good hull down spot? Peek and shoot? Its really hard to survive in.

    • @pendraig5446
      @pendraig5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faceripper77 I just play it as a support and also try not to be aggresive in early spawn.

  • @ajikanExe
    @ajikanExe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    italian and japan need some love too

  • @JasonZicker06
    @JasonZicker06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content!

  • @airplane-collector0747
    @airplane-collector0747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work

  • @hawkeye6292
    @hawkeye6292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They better give the challenger 2 TES a new shell, L27A1 won’t cut it

  • @ishiddddd4783
    @ishiddddd4783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Type 10 confirmed lads

  • @TikerFighter
    @TikerFighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you just got a new abrams last patch?

  • @Mr.Billadude
    @Mr.Billadude ปีที่แล้ว

    7:25 TEAMWORK !!! 😮😮

  • @ycyang4903
    @ycyang4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really want to know, why Gaijin won't change the ebr1954 to rank4? it is a 6.3 vehicle now

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      because then you could use it to grind tanks in the next Rank and they dont want you that

  • @RoRoDra0902
    @RoRoDra0902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comes to repair cost
    *waiting for T26E1*

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the m1a2 in-game have the system that automatically calculates lead as well as the proper elevation for the range?

    • @CHAPPER-
      @CHAPPER- ปีที่แล้ว

      it has a Laser rangefinder of course but not automatic lead i dont think so

  • @justagamer334
    @justagamer334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tiger ll H has I think 14k sl repair costs

  • @fadedgam3r
    @fadedgam3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish theyd make the abrams op like irl where you can lock on to other tanks

    • @nicolaspeigne1429
      @nicolaspeigne1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you give FCS to the Abrams, all the other nations will get them and do similar things.

    • @fadedgam3r
      @fadedgam3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicolaspeigne1429 no other nation has the fcs tho atleast i think

    • @nicolaspeigne1429
      @nicolaspeigne1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fadedgam3r every modern mbt has a fcs of some sort, they don't do the same things, but even the amx 30 has a basic fcs. It varies from calculating elevation, lead on moving vehicles, locking several vehicles and engaging them in order of threat... and surely i'm forgetting things
      FCS is short for Fire Control System and includes technically sights and laser rangefinder.

    • @fadedgam3r
      @fadedgam3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicolaspeigne1429 oooo i didnt know that lol thats pretty cool you learn something new everyday lol thanks dude

  • @a_random_viewer_7169
    @a_random_viewer_7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to grind America up to the Abrams. I've had to grind arcade mode only though because my eyesight is really bad. Grind has been a long process but I made it to 7.3-7.7. Halfway through the t32e1 and have 1.3 million convertible points. Gonna get golden eagles to grind out the m163, m103 and t95 and anything else going into rank 6 and then get a premium account.

    • @samphardtake
      @samphardtake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck playing T95 and M103... shitty lightly armored vehicles with HEATFS spamming killed heavy tanks. Heavy tanks are literally unplayable and they no longer have any purpose..

    • @wolfroze9703
      @wolfroze9703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ngl it would be better to just use the patton series to research the abrams tanks

  • @clonerwesker
    @clonerwesker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what about everyone free Abrams instead of parts and FPE??

  • @OkamiiSenpai
    @OkamiiSenpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never struggled to make a profit playing the m1a2

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior4744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Italy, how deep has you fallen...

  • @NightMare-hk6tn
    @NightMare-hk6tn ปีที่แล้ว

    What sight is this

  • @danielcervantes7826
    @danielcervantes7826 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro wait till the SEP gets the M829A3

  • @CROengineer
    @CROengineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a good jet

  • @Kaijiro____93
    @Kaijiro____93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is JP ping enemies on the map without scout ability??

  • @ShadowWolf-qy7es
    @ShadowWolf-qy7es 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should also add m95 round to the strv122 a/b to be fair!

    • @yedidyah
      @yedidyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly, in all their wisdom, Gaijin does such decisions based on "statistics". Since the Strv 122s have such high repair costs, no one really plays it, and those that play it, perform good enough in it to warrant a) the high repair costs and b) not adding new ammo. So if Gaijin wants to see real stats for the Strv 122s, they should lower the repair costs in the first place.

    • @ShadowWolf-qy7es
      @ShadowWolf-qy7es 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yedidyah yeah thats true. But its pretty unfair to those who play strv122 theyre stuck with dm33. In real life strv never use dm33 though

  • @rainbowcat6616
    @rainbowcat6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why didn’t they put the pen to 680 or something cuz the A2 can pen up to 7 something

    • @MCLegionaire
      @MCLegionaire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be becuase the 700mm pen performance is probably for 60 degrees.
      With the standard long rod slope modifier it's 60 degree penetration is 728mm (i.e. 364 × 2 at 10m).
      Seems to be performing fine.

    • @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187
      @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost every single top tier round underpreforms. This is not an american only problem. Dm53 fired from a l/55 is estimated to have 800mm of pen at 2000 meters.
      But if every tank had their real pen, armour would become littery useless.

  • @gustafgothlin7072
    @gustafgothlin7072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the damn 122 still sit with DM33 as it`s best

  • @ozoahameg3582
    @ozoahameg3582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    man i just wish they make m1a2 a little bit cheaper like 8000-9000 SL 12K is kinda painful to see even tho i got over 100mil in reserves, and even if i earn like 20-25K in it having half of it taken just to repair is discouraging
    and same for the swedish 122s i know they have armor but come on that repair is just insane any tank with repair going above 5 digits is kinda too high for me even if i have tons of SL to spare it just doesnt feel right
    and abrams and 2a5 doesnt need the new round they are powerful already its just pure F your armor at this point (the new rounds make T80s and 72/90's weakspot even bigger (i can hit it lower and still pen through unlike before where i need to aim really close to the breach)

  • @sgtpickle6845
    @sgtpickle6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how he says hate a lot

  • @seb_1504
    @seb_1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMX 30 Brenus revisit please

  • @amastary3848
    @amastary3848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m in this Video and I like it. Hi from the first match.

  • @ThatGuyOrby
    @ThatGuyOrby ปีที่แล้ว

    now we have a SEP but the literal only thing they added to it is TUSK. DU armor? Nope. M829A3? Nope. Gen 2 Thermals? Nope.

  • @warbound1
    @warbound1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And I'm still not playing it because it costs 12,000 to repair

  • @LRCROSS
    @LRCROSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abrams series, 2PL, 2A5, 2A6, T90 ±600mm of pen and Strv 122 still more expensive than them and still get 481mm of pen in the same br or higher with a shell the Swedes never used. Give us the Slpprj m95

  • @9_19Ming
    @9_19Ming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    m1a1 hc is my biggesssssst love ❤