This guide is a bit dated now. Ill update it for UE5 launch but in the interim, drop archery, lower str to 28 and get more psyche and con and lean more into mage. You can also fit beast master in. Also drop to lean weight for speed or go up to fat if you're comfortable blocking. Max blocking too. Fat veela veela mages run 434 movement speed. GL out there boys
With Sheevra you'd get more action point bonuses I think, esp w/ changes you're suggesting to lean more mage. Seems like can still go same height too. Is there an important reason for double veela other than more dex for more movespeed? Veteran MO1 player looking to start MO2 soon, used to love the Sheevra for hiding in the dark too
Looks and sounds fun, if I had a second account I'd love to try it. I've found that I'm less of a fan of straight footie builds and prefer mage/hybrids more. I just like having multiple options when it comes to combat. I know footie/MA is effective but I think I would get bored if my kit was solely dedicated to that playstyle. I'm looking forward to more magic options and would like to see slight damage buffs but would be happy with reduced mana cost on damage spells specifically.
@DemoMan0351 I would love to see an update to this build considering the beastmatery changes and the archery changes, been thinking of following this as a guide as im a new player but I hear its a bit outdated
how is taming and dominating as a solo player, seems like some of the pets would be very hard to get solo. do you always need to get a team together or something to do it.
If I were in a Duo with someone who's a MA with some healing magic, could I switch over to an Oghrim with more focus on melee but still be a tamer? Bit new so not sure how well it'd work. The basic idea is to just have a bear/wolf/terrorbird to help me fight one or two people while my ally pecks at them from his horse. The tames are, honestly, more for keeping the enemy away from my ally more than anything else.
You can't have a horse and pet at the same time without ruining the rest of your build. That is the main reason tamer is a dumb build. I wouldn't bother with it.
Hey! Would this work on a short (160cm) full Sheevra? I know I would have to sacrifice some movement speed, but the extra attribute points could be used for more strength (68, for that 0% damage bonus too), and the rest into more intelligence or constitution or whatever. Again, I know the loss of speed would be bad for PvP but this build would only be a stopgap for me before I switch to Necro and I really don't want to re-roll AGAIN lmao. Love your guides and would love to see one for a Thursar passive regen Footie in one of the next ones! Have a great day
Yes it works on a sheevra, you can go min height for more points and less melee, Ive played both extensively. They are both fun/viable. Being taller makes your reach with daggers better too, just consider that
Hi I'm sure you've probably played enough to figure it out now, but just in case.. Or in case any other new players drop by: it's because of rate of attack. You have a limited number of powerful spells you can cast before you drain your mana, and most of the ones that hit hard have limited range. Unless you're in the top 5% of mages you're going to miss a few spells per encounter and still waste the mana. Also, can't increase horse speed while casting, can't turn while casting. With a shortbow and mounted archery you can repeatedly shoot arrows in quick succession for a little stamina. Missing is less punishing. You can fire off two arrows in the time it takes to charge a spell.
you said this isnt for group fighting but isnt this just a tamer with a terrorbird with the same magic as a human but faster with lighter armor? human melee beastmaster better solo imo. interesting build though.
Use the pet tab on the build website to mix and match what you want to see what you can afford. I really enjoy lvl 75ish bird with the biggest horse I can get
I played a lot of foot fighting builds and after a while I found that the Blocking skill is not really that useful since I observed that it only covers the blocks not parries. And I don't hold my blocks, I parry a lot which means I get free points from blocking almost all the time. The real use of blocking skill might be for tank builds that can stand their ground against the mino boss etc. I'm wondering if you have tested this as well
Blocking in mo1 decreased the amount of chip damage you took from blunt weapons like axes and hammers as well as powerful AI attacks. with 0 blocking you could take up to 30 damage on parry.
@@zorin7158 parry has a window and can trigger a heavy hitting counter attack. If you hold parry long it only becomes a block and you dont get the counter attack opportunity. In my experience parry blocks more damage compared to a block. But some creatures cannot be parried, only be blocked like most wild animals etc.
They patched the infinite parry glitch I tried with full armor spamming one guy couldn't even get through the first bandit they just kept attacking me Multiple times.
If youre having human problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but I aint a human so that aint one. Humans suck. Ill cover it in a "dont make these" build guide
@@Devildog0491 hi new player here, i rolled with human but i got in without any build and think to reroll, are humans still suck even with recent update?
way over exagerating how strong pets are. The armors are high enough now that footies will take less then 10 damage a hit from bears for example while they are doing 80+ damage to the pet. Its very weak against footies and bowmen.
@@Devildog0491 yeah good vid for sure but your missing my point. They had reptile or something close to that on. And they where all villas. Your bird isnt gonna do that damage to steel and if your fighting a thursar hes just gonna get free heals on your pet.
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best turorial I've seen as a new mage player. Thanks for the effort mate
i'd like to see this updated since the archery nerf
Yes, please. We need an update because of the archery nerf.
This guide is a bit dated now. Ill update it for UE5 launch but in the interim, drop archery, lower str to 28 and get more psyche and con and lean more into mage. You can also fit beast master in. Also drop to lean weight for speed or go up to fat if you're comfortable blocking. Max blocking too. Fat veela veela mages run 434 movement speed. GL out there boys
thanks, gonna try this but as sheevra / veela just cuz I wanna be a dark elf
With Sheevra you'd get more action point bonuses I think, esp w/ changes you're suggesting to lean more mage. Seems like can still go same height too. Is there an important reason for double veela other than more dex for more movespeed? Veteran MO1 player looking to start MO2 soon, used to love the Sheevra for hiding in the dark too
@@197mmCannon I made the same half breed because veela look dumb compared to that sexy oil black elf
Why drop strength to 28? I know clade gives +20 strength for bows but what kind of bow are you using at 48 str? Thanks in advance :)
@@zakariyamahmod2895 no bow, youre a dex mage tamer now
Very insightful video and ty for the shoutout.
Thanks for doing this video, its exacly my build right now, i try to figure out with that, because anyone talk about this build.
You had me there for a second.. I'm new to the channel and thought for a bit you were actually Robmo
Looks and sounds fun, if I had a second account I'd love to try it. I've found that I'm less of a fan of straight footie builds and prefer mage/hybrids more. I just like having multiple options when it comes to combat. I know footie/MA is effective but I think I would get bored if my kit was solely dedicated to that playstyle. I'm looking forward to more magic options and would like to see slight damage buffs but would be happy with reduced mana cost on damage spells specifically.
I spent playing ma/footie thursar for 400h and just got bored and rerolled lmao. It defdo gets boring cuz u kill everything super easiy in open world.
Hay love your videos can you show us how it would look with the necromancy build with that link you used with the stats 🙏🏽
@DemoMan0351 I would love to see an update to this build considering the beastmatery changes and the archery changes, been thinking of following this as a guide as im a new player but I hear its a bit outdated
I second that
Hi! Good vid. Is this build still good or is the solo king build or necro better.
how is taming and dominating as a solo player, seems like some of the pets would be very hard to get solo. do you always need to get a team together or something to do it.
I am going to try this build. I have a question on playstyle. Are you kiting the mobs with archery or letting the pet tank and healing/assisting it?
Either my dude.
At the end of the day... "I'm Pushing the fking button man" !
Best ending ever xD
Awesome guide!!!Can u just answer is that playeble right now? Asking like new player.thx
Are there any specialized Tamer/Petmaster build, that is not Jack-of-All-Trades?
As I understood, Apex isn`t mainly tamer.
I’m going to try this as a human for my 2nd character, was nice when I first ran it. Probably main a Taur Dog or Bear
Yep, human could make that work very well
Watched it few times.awesome guide. But can u answer what can u skip here to learn beastmastery?
Good guide.
hey im new what stats should i start with?
I saw your comment below can you update this build I saw you say drop archery and lower str but I don't know what to replace that with?
If I were in a Duo with someone who's a MA with some healing magic, could I switch over to an Oghrim with more focus on melee but still be a tamer? Bit new so not sure how well it'd work.
The basic idea is to just have a bear/wolf/terrorbird to help me fight one or two people while my ally pecks at them from his horse. The tames are, honestly, more for keeping the enemy away from my ally more than anything else.
You can't have a horse and pet at the same time without ruining the rest of your build. That is the main reason tamer is a dumb build. I wouldn't bother with it.
what armor is this set using?
i would like to run a thursar tamer build could you make any suggestions?
Hey! Would this work on a short (160cm) full Sheevra? I know I would have to sacrifice some movement speed, but the extra attribute points could be used for more strength (68, for that 0% damage bonus too), and the rest into more intelligence or constitution or whatever.
Again, I know the loss of speed would be bad for PvP but this build would only be a stopgap for me before I switch to Necro and I really don't want to re-roll AGAIN lmao.
Love your guides and would love to see one for a Thursar passive regen Footie in one of the next ones! Have a great day
Same question bascially)
Will it work with Sheevra?
Yes it works on a sheevra, you can go min height for more points and less melee, Ive played both extensively. They are both fun/viable. Being taller makes your reach with daggers better too, just consider that
@@Devildog0491 will short Sheevra still use daggers for defense? Or will it be more archer build?
@@panrazo5600 never go without a melee weapon
@@Devildog0491 i re rolled, could not hit with the shortest one lol haha :D thank you for all this information!
Great video! New player here. Can you explain why mounted archery is so much better than mounted magery at killing horses?
Hi I'm sure you've probably played enough to figure it out now, but just in case.. Or in case any other new players drop by: it's because of rate of attack. You have a limited number of powerful spells you can cast before you drain your mana, and most of the ones that hit hard have limited range. Unless you're in the top 5% of mages you're going to miss a few spells per encounter and still waste the mana. Also, can't increase horse speed while casting, can't turn while casting.
With a shortbow and mounted archery you can repeatedly shoot arrows in quick succession for a little stamina. Missing is less punishing. You can fire off two arrows in the time it takes to charge a spell.
you said this isnt for group fighting but isnt this just a tamer with a terrorbird with the same magic as a human but faster with lighter armor? human melee beastmaster better solo imo. interesting build though.
i'd drop controlled riding on that build
What horse level you found works best(now with PP update) in combo with another pet? Thx
Lvl 50ish horse + whatever the max bird that goes with it. Heavy horse armor because you out pace the bird anyways might as well be beefier
This still Viable with the Archery Changes?
Hey man, I wanted to use this build, is it still viable after UE5?
Is this still a desent build after the archery nerfs?
With the new update do you believe that mounted magery is better now ?
Both are viable
how is it now with Beast Mastery ingame?
is this build still the same or do we need points in beast mastery now? if so, what skills would you sub out for beast mastery?
Check my other comment
hey man! i like this guild! can u post here a video link with u doing some pvp with it?
But what are your STARTING attributes????
I might be dumb but didnt understand what armor youre suppose to use with this build :o
Also, which level horses and pets are you using on this build?
Use the pet tab on the build website to mix and match what you want to see what you can afford. I really enjoy lvl 75ish bird with the biggest horse I can get
@@Devildog0491 unfortunately, it shows me wrong pp cost, even with zoology skills in character build.
@@panrazo5600 ive had no issues, make sure even the seconday is full
I played a lot of foot fighting builds and after a while I found that the Blocking skill is not really that useful since I observed that it only covers the blocks not parries. And I don't hold my blocks, I parry a lot which means I get free points from blocking almost all the time. The real use of blocking skill might be for tank builds that can stand their ground against the mino boss etc. I'm wondering if you have tested this as well
Blocking in mo1 decreased the amount of chip damage you took from blunt weapons like axes and hammers as well as powerful AI attacks. with 0 blocking you could take up to 30 damage on parry.
I dont really understand thevparry vs block ... can you explain it
@@zorin7158 parry has a window and can trigger a heavy hitting counter attack. If you hold parry long it only becomes a block and you dont get the counter attack opportunity. In my experience parry blocks more damage compared to a block. But some creatures cannot be parried, only be blocked like most wild animals etc.
On the attributes part, when it says dex 121(+4) does that mean you have 125 dex or is thet 4+ included in that total?
I'm also wondering the same
this mean 117(+4), the +4 you get from clades
Useless with the stats forced at 50 now...AWESOME that you put the amount of time and attention into your videos though!
Hey, appreciate the videos. Interested in joining your guild, how can I apply?
Reach out to me or an officer via mo2 discord. Search blackpriest im sure the recruiting ad will come up
They patched the infinite parry glitch I tried with full armor spamming one guy couldn't even get through the first bandit they just kept attacking me Multiple times.
can you do a video that delves into necromancy?
Nope sorry, this channel will never be for spoiling secrets and ruining content, others can do that or you can go ask people and hunt in game.
@@Devildog0491 understandable
Wondering about a beefy version of this as a human? Too slow?
If youre having human problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but I aint a human so that aint one.
Humans suck. Ill cover it in a "dont make these" build guide
@@Devildog0491 hi new player here, i rolled with human but i got in without any build and think to reroll, are humans still suck even with recent update?
@@BrotherFox2 humans = 🤮
could this work with human? i dont wanna delete my toon XD
Its better on human assuming youre tindremic or sidoan
Is this still viable ?
Аs a new player, it is not understood at all from the video, how to make a new character)
Figure it out
way over exagerating how strong pets are. The armors are high enough now that footies will take less then 10 damage a hit from bears for example while they are doing 80+ damage to the pet. Its very weak against footies and bowmen.
Totally dont have any video evidence on my channel saying otherwise totally dont have any footage killing 3 footies with a tbird solo totally not.
@@Devildog0491 yeah good vid for sure but your missing my point. They had reptile or something close to that on. And they where all villas. Your bird isnt gonna do that damage to steel and if your fighting a thursar hes just gonna get free heals on your pet.