They all will fill tags. I'm not knocking Apex, but after having a conversation with a fella there on performance and what I was seeing. I seen REALLY quick I needed to shop around. Hey we disagreed on some things and agreed on others. I tried his recommendations and they didn't work for me. I shopped around and yes there is better out there. I'm not married to any ammo/choke company. Heck I'm running 3 different ammo/choke combos in 3 different guns. What I'm saying is, if you don't feel confident in the set up, don't settle for it. You didn't chase this bird for 2 miles, 4 set ups, and hours of homework to have that moment took away by a weak gun set up.
Those are honestly piss poor patterns with tss!! If you’re paying for tss then you should be able to get much better results. Get an Indian creek choke and actually make use of the tss. Or use the junk mossberg factory choke and achieve what lots of premium lead load’s would do with a good choke!
You sound like you don’t want people to use what works for them 😂😂😂 goodness you are all tore up about a video on TH-cam. Not everyone wants to fork out 85-130 dollars for a choke tube. I’ve seen TSS pattern stupid well out of a bass pro Blackmaxx choke made by carlsons choke tubes before. These new birchwood/casey targets don’t allow you to see your patterns real well anymore
Not tore up at all! Just my opinion. I personally feel that spending the money for tss and settling for patterns like that is like buying a custom target rifle and settling for 2 inch groups. A good aftermarket choke won’t run you much more than a box of tss. Some will run you less than a box of tss! And you’ll still have the choke long after that first box of tss is gone!! Bottom line is that the choke is the cheapest part of the combo. It’s a one time purchase.
Fella, if you can afford tss, and can afford to shoot 3 shots at paper, you can afford an Indian creek choke!! If purchasing a $60 box of ammo puts you in that bad of financial trouble that you can’t afford an $80 choke, then you’re probably not ready for tss yet!! No shame in that! And by all means, if you’re content with very sub par results then go for it. But I’ve seen many factory chokes shoot way better patterns with lead than what was seen in the video.
My friend, I enjoy the work you do. I have found no reason to replace the Black Mamba choke in my gun for turkey or water fowl.
Turkey loads period are no joke! LOL
They all will fill tags. I'm not knocking Apex, but after having a conversation with a fella there on performance and what I was seeing. I seen REALLY quick I needed to shop around. Hey we disagreed on some things and agreed on others. I tried his recommendations and they didn't work for me. I shopped around and yes there is better out there. I'm not married to any ammo/choke company. Heck I'm running 3 different ammo/choke combos in 3 different guns. What I'm saying is, if you don't feel confident in the set up, don't settle for it. You didn't chase this bird for 2 miles, 4 set ups, and hours of homework to have that moment took away by a weak gun set up.
What sight were you using. Great video too.
It’s a holosun 407k
Nice
Do you know what the constriction is on the xxfull choke
.670 constriction
Those are honestly piss poor patterns with tss!! If you’re paying for tss then you should be able to get much better results. Get an Indian creek choke and actually make use of the tss. Or use the junk mossberg factory choke and achieve what lots of premium lead load’s would do with a good choke!
Will do bud
You sound like you don’t want people to use what works for them 😂😂😂 goodness you are all tore up about a video on TH-cam. Not everyone wants to fork out 85-130 dollars for a choke tube. I’ve seen TSS pattern stupid well out of a bass pro Blackmaxx choke made by carlsons choke tubes before. These new birchwood/casey targets don’t allow you to see your patterns real well anymore
Not tore up at all! Just my opinion. I personally feel that spending the money for tss and settling for patterns like that is like buying a custom target rifle and settling for 2 inch groups. A good aftermarket choke won’t run you much more than a box of tss. Some will run you less than a box of tss! And you’ll still have the choke long after that first box of tss is gone!! Bottom line is that the choke is the cheapest part of the combo. It’s a one time purchase.
@@jerrymoyer4085 if he’s happy with them so be it. Not everyone can afford an expensive choke
Fella, if you can afford tss, and can afford to shoot 3 shots at paper, you can afford an Indian creek choke!! If purchasing a $60 box of ammo puts you in that bad of financial trouble that you can’t afford an $80 choke, then you’re probably not ready for tss yet!! No shame in that! And by all means, if you’re content with very sub par results then go for it. But I’ve seen many factory chokes shoot way better patterns with lead than what was seen in the video.