Rambo: First blood is surprisingly emotional 🥲
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Great reaction. I hope you'll react to Rambo: First Blood part two
Mary: If you're wondering why the USA is so F-Ed Up today, it is because the people who protested the Vietnam War, a 10-year war, that fed the greed of the Military Industrial Complex, were the same ones who spit on returning Vietnam Veterans calling them baby killers and such at Airports. Those are the same people who today have been running the USA's 20-year war to feed the greed at the Military Industrial Complex. Thankfully, it is popular to say: 'Thank you for your service,' so those lemming so-called "leaders" who are destroy the USA Today aren't spitting on our veterans this time 'round.
you should watch "Copland" Mary, Stallone was excellent in it, and most critics thought he would get nominated for an oscar... even though it didnt happen... by far, his best dramatic role.
Glad you your reacted to this, if you want more Stallone films I would recommend Cliffhanger and Demolition Man
@@lawrenceallen8096 "Those are the same people who today have been running the USA's 20-year war to feed the greed at the Military Industrial Complex." Nooo, those are called career politicians, but nice try. (Dubya and Cheney and Rumsfeld were Vietnam War protestors?? Yeah, tell me another one. :D :D)
"Thankfully, it is popular to say: 'Thank you for your service,' so those lemming so-called 'leaders' who are destroy the USA Today..." Nice try, *Borat,* nice try. :D :D :D
Vietnam Vets were horribly treated. I went in the military just after Vietnam and six years later transitioned from the regular to the reserve. Employers discriminated against me in a big way and after 300 job applications a hotel actually complied with federal law and hired me.
I'm truly sorry you went through that.
I’m sorry you went through so much. I hope you’re doing okay now.
Shameful
@@slanetroyard92 Thank you.
@@charliefarmer4365 Much better-7 years of therapy 🙂
I did two tours in Iraq as an infantryman. I wasn't a green beret, but I did my job. The ending scene always brings me to tears because he's saying how I feel but can't because it'd fall on deaf ears.
I too am a former Infantryman with two tours in Iraq.
I agree completely. It’s very difficult to deal with suddenly not having purpose when you get out and most people just cannot fathom the reality of it. To go from a professional who’s integrity is never questioned to just another entry level employee is soul crushing.
The end scene of First Blood is probably the best explanation I could provide someone.
Pulled three in Iraq, two in Afghanistan, and you're absolutely right, as is Kyle Smith who commented on your post. It's rather horrific going from being an NCO to being tossed back into society where none of the others understand you or what you've seen and been through. We have all the training to be an effective leader and get things done, but we're treated as nobodies here while they smirk and say, "Thank you for your service" and point to the door. I came here to comment on this review, but not to watch the film because it infuriates me.
Mary, if you read your comments, the reason the police are like this is that the police are basically all the bullies from high school. They tormented and beat kids in school and they were the ones who went for the authority to continue doing it at the city and state level. If it were me, the very first requirement for being in law enforcement would be NOT WANTING to be a cop. The people who are power-hungry, full of loathing for anyone else, and not looking to help anyone who needs it shouldn't wear badges and be given authority over others.
@@ks5526 Thank you for your service, both of you.
You’re absolutely 100% right. I served between 2009-2013, and after getting out it was like a bucket of ice water got dumped on me repeatedly. Civilians have nothing in common with veterans, after we have ETS/EAS’d, so everyday is a very isolating experience. It has numbed a bit since I left but the isolation has not. The ending to Rambo sums things up perfectly.
I’m a former infantry Mexican soldier my service was on Mexico but this is so close to what we experienced after service god bless you guys and all those who did their best to make this a better world
Now you know why Stallone is an icon: Rocky & Rambo are such different characters but both deep and full of humanity thanks to Sly's acting skills. It's almost unfair that he has been put next to Schwarzenegger and Vandamme: they are ok, but none of them could have provided such emotional scenes. He is also an author, a writer, a painter... A unique artist, indeed! 🤩
Van Damme is pretty low tier compared to Arnold and Sly. Arnold is great at the roles he was cast for. He fitted the description of tough guy, little words, many muscles. Sly is more diverse and has a broader range. That makes him a superior actor for sure, but just try to imagine Conan, Terminator or Predator without Arnold.
@@brozy5720 Arnold was a phenom. Made a name for himself in body building, then Hollywood needed a strongman for the Conan role, and Arnie side-stepped over into that... and the rest was history. Stallone, meanwhile, was a starving screenwriter, trying to get Rocky produced. Had an offer for it, but they didn't want him in it, and he stuck to his guns on playing Rocky. It was a good thing, too, because I don't think it would have been the classic it was without him.
JCVD... I honestly don't even know. Karate Kid was a hit, people got into Bruce Lee, and here comes a hunky white dude that could kick and do the splits. Gotta love the 80s.
@@rcslyman8929 I knew the backstories of them. They had both difficulties in the beginning. Sly had it harder of course, but if Conan hadn't come along, Arnie probably couldn't get a foot into Hollywood's door.
@@rcslyman8929look up his monologue from JCVD 2008. Brilliant acting from van damme
They're all more than you can see. Truly remarkable people.
They're all talented and multi-talented.
Rambo’s breakdown and monologue at the end goes a long way to explaining why we lose 22 vets a day to suicide…
This might not occur to an Australian, but he's not gathering more clothes to mask his scent. The Pacific Northwest is cold and wet, and if you get cold and wet, you can die of hypothermia. He's gathering clothes to stay warm.
And to be honest more people get and die from hypothermia when it is wet like it is on the film than when it is below zero.
It’s easier to miss the symptoms when it is warmer
Yeah, the during the making of that movie, I believe it was the fall or near winter time, and Sly was INDEED cold.
Second movie it's the opposite, it was filmed in Mexico, during the summer.
If Rambo tried to hide his scent by using Galt's coat, it probably wouldn't have worked. The police and the dog handler would just put the dogs to following the new scent.
This is why Rambo uses his three rounds of ammunition in Galt's rifle to kill two of the dogs, and shoot the dog handler in the leg. The dogs and the skilled tracker pose the greatest danger to Rambo, in that they make it easy for the police to track him. With the dogs and tracker out of commission, Rambo can more easily escape and evade.
Rambo is able to ambush and pick off the sheriff and his men afterwards because the dogs and tracker were gone. If the dogs were still alive, they would have made it impossible, by alerting the police to his presence.
This is probably exactly the way a Special Forces soldier would be trained to escape and evade enemy soldiers pursuing him, except on a mission he would have killed the Sheriff and his men, not just wounded them. This is what Trautman is referencing when he tells Teasle that he and his men should all be dead, and that strictly speaking, Rambo screwed up by not killing them.
Well, and it does help to throw off the scent
yeah it's a cold ass rainforest basically, stallone is a beast, a lot of times actors nearly get hypothermia while filming outdoors, stallone fought like hell to get rocky made-the script was denied like 1500 times because he wanted the lead and he beat his body up to make this one, it was very close to being a total disaster because it was 3.5hours of him killing hunters and saying cheesy one-liners to the point he just wanted to burn the film, he eventually edited down into something amazing, bloodsport was also like that where it was a disaster and van damm edited it down himself and it just somehow worked out and made him famous, action heroes of the old days who separated themselves from the herd are very strong willed dudes
fun fact, stallone was in the hospital and he pranked the nurses with that wounded arm, I guess there's a tube underneath and he could make it spurt blood, haha, reminds me of the time with friday the 13th part 2 where the jason vorhees actor had to go to the hospital for an injury WHILE he had a fake machete buried into his neck and clavical haha, I bet actors do this a lot
“Actors really go through it!”
You can say that again. Stallone actually broke a bone in the tree falling scene.
I was literally about to say this 😂
He also had them cut his arm with a razor and then really stitched up the wound during the scene
And in the scene where the guardsmen are shooting at him in the cave, one of the squibs went off right beside his hand. The thought it had blown off one or two of his fingers.
Stallone, Tom Cruise. Two action stars who do their own stunts. Tom Cruise once broke his ankle jumping from one rooftop to another.
I think I've read that he also broke somebody's nose in the police station scene
As veteran, I know everything he's going through. You live with those memories forever. Sounds, smells, just simply driving. It's never the same and it's been nearly 20 years now
Thank you for your service. Welcome home
@@DominikKo33 Don't cut yourself on that edge, kid.
Thanks for your service mate.
Although I never served, I worked corrections. Just been diagnosed ptsd after 15yrs of leaving
@@DominikKo33 get out of your mommys basement dudong
I know how you feel, man. I can't smell a bonfire without smelling the burn pits. Same with seeing certain sights.
Fun fact: This movie was filmed in British Columbia in the dead of winter and Sylvester Stalone, who did most of his own stunts, recieved several injuries during filming and actually broke one of his ribs filming this movie. I think it was from jumping onto the tree, which was a real pine tree. He actually had to jump onto that and hold onto the sharp branches. And he did all of it in -15°C in very thin layers, including that vest you see him in throughout the movie.
Sly still has that anorak. They found the material in the field and came up with the idea of turning it into an anorak using his Green Beret survival knife.
Saw this in the theater with my dad and one of his friends, both Vietnam era vets. All I remember is how deathly quiet it was after and the entire way home. After an hour or so, Dad’s friend says “it’s about time someone said it out loud, but it only captures 1% of what it was like”.
The concept of PTSD really didn’t exist then, it was just “ShellShock” or “combat fatigue” and wasn’t treated, it was just looked down on. We treated those vets like shit, and people STILL don’t acknowledge it.
God bless
What did they call it in WWI again? Nostalgia?
@@blechtic Only by people whose biggest accomplishment in life was when the kindergarten teacher gave everyone who showed up a participation ribbon.
@@stanleydavidlepretre4241 You can't even imagine the PTSD from not getting one.
There's a lot of things we don't acknowledge and pretend not to. Even today.
Hopefully, we're on the way where this stuff, at least, is widely acknowledged.
That speech at the end is one of the best speeches about war and PTSD ever put in film. All the sequels are worth watching for sure
They are, but they're also cartoonish vs the first one.
@@molasorrosalom4846 The very last one was less so. Stallone played the final one pretty good.
They are pretty terrible.
His speech at the end of the second one is the best.
"Want? What do I want!? I want what every guy who came over here and spilled his guts wants. For our country to love US...as much as WE...love IT."
He just kills that line and during that part, I'm right back here at the end of this movie.
Rambo First Blood part II was kind-of on the same bandwagon as the Missing in Action movies but with a Russian twist, but it was still very much the Vietnam vet story.
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My dad was an Army Ranger & served 3 tours in Vietnam & went through things we can't even comprehend. I don't even think they had a name for PTSD back in the day. Vietnam Vets were treated with such irreverence when they came home. Dad never really talked about it. He was one of the lucky few that came home & dealt with everything better than others. Not until after he passed I realized what a real hero was. Love you dad and miss you. Thank all the one's who sacrificed so much for our country. You'll never be forgotten....
Thank you for sharing, and God bless your dad. Rangers lead the way.🙏🏼👍🏼🙏🏼
Audie Murphy wrote about his experiences in WW2 and he was the first vet to really talk about what they called "Shell Shock" back then. It wasn't until the Gulf War 1 that Americans were really conscious about how to treat vets. Our government still doesn't support them nearly enough, but more people at least recognize their sacrifice even if they disagree about the use of the military.
War fatigue, shell shock, trench crazy... every war has evoked a term for the soldiers who suffered their eras PTSD.
Stallone is a criminally underrated actor. John Rambo is the quintessential broken man, and this movie is a fantastic story about this kind of man. It is as much a drama as an action movie.
Besides the action, Rambo’s monologue at the end shows the trauma Vietnam veterans brought back with them and what they had to deal with when they came back home. 😔 Thankfully today there are outlets and services to help veterans and to get them off the streets.
One of the best performances by Stallone
And then HIS PTSD magically disappeared in the sequels.
i dont think the movie illustrates the setting the soldiers were coming home to: the activism that contributed to losing the war, that inspired the terrible welcome home, the hippie culture rife with drugs and vagrancy. that was kind of assumed in the movie and was understood at the time, not so much to younger generations outside of the era.
@@slainteron4027 he should have got an oscar, especially for the last 10 minutes,
@@molasorrosalom4846 his PTSD doesn't disappear... in the sequels he goes to war constantly which is his natural environment... first he goes back to Vietnam itself, then to Afghanistan, then to Burma... and all that violence, in a way, covers/hides the suffering inside him... (same thing in the first movie the moment he was triggered and went survival mode)
it makes sense that his PTSD and suffering only came out while he was trying to lead a quite and normal life and when he was finally defused by Trautman...
The last few minutes of this movie contains the finest acting of Stallone's career. I've seen it many times and I still get goosebumps. He absolutely killed it.
Thanks for this reaction. I’m a U.S Army Combat Veteran and I truly appreciate your shedding light on the reality of PTSD. I once went an entire year without conversing with people around me from the things you are referring to here. Salute and respect. Your channel helps me to feel human.
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@@jsmithers. You know what you remind me of? A pizza cutter.
All edge, but no point.
@@seneca1932 Cry 🤡
thank you for your service brother
@@jsmithers. Describing yourself?
Miss Cherry , I was moved by your kindness and empathy. PTSD is Very real. I had returned home from the US Army 15 years ago. Though I am not a Green Beret , having been in the infantry I will tell you this coming home is not easy. The feelings , memories , experiences return whether we sleep , or are awake. A Green Beret I knew stopped me from making a huge mistake. A guy who had been in a different unit had picked a fight with me. I had to defend myself .......but then I was going to make a example of the guy. The door flew open , Then James Stuart runs through . " MARTINO , STAND DOWN !!!!! " ........again " MARTINO STAND DOWN. " , I then heard my friend. He stopped me. The guy who started it had been dealt with. I was facing a court-martial . It did not go far as the surveillance cameras saw I defended myself. I was not given a article 15 . My friend James Stuart , was there for me. I never forgot my buddies , especially him and what he did for me. I was not penalized , but one of the people at my court-martial tried to admonish me , and preach to me. That guy watched the video to.
He did not get the fact I did not start. He said " you could of handled it differently. " , The truth he had not been there.
Jump ahead to 3 weeks ago , at my current job we get another boss in , and she has the nerve to say " Oh you're a civilian now. " . That had been where she fucked up. When we come home we are not " Civilians " we are in a world between the every day world most see , and the world we Soldiers , Sailors , Airmen , and Marines know as the military . It is us , the veterans who live the world between these two. The Japanese have it right . 影の世界 , Kage no Sekai ( A shadow world )
Your tears , compassion , and heart show , that true kindness and humanity is what makes the difference.
Great story, thank you.
His performance in this is under-rated because it does have a lot of action, and he doesn't speak much, but when he does, he knocks it out of the park.
I believe that's the point actually. The character is a loner by chance, definitely not by choice. And he is on the run. So he doesn't have many chances to talk. That's exactly what makes the final scene so powerful: the stoic self-imposed dam that was bottling his emotions finally cracks in front of the man that he trusts and that, by virtue of being a soldier, can actually understand what he is going through and Rambo's pain flows like a tsunami.
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@@jsmithers. unintelligent response to someone who actually had some coherent insightful thoughts to offer...
@@leonardofacchin1452 well said. Stallone has always been criminally disrespected.
@@st0n3p0ny Cry 🤡
In the book version, Sheriff Teasle hated Rambo because Teasle was a Korean War veteran and Rambo was a Vietnam veteran and Teasle felt his war was greater but got less publicity. As for the movie version, its not really explained why he hated Rambo other than he disliked his appearence.
Who has the right to claim who’s war is greater, war is war isn’t it?
About the only hint of Teasles service is the medal case that is on the shelf behind his desk
"As for the movie version, its not really explained why he hated Rambo other than he disliked his appearence."
I disagree. I think it's made pretty clear. Rambo and the kind of people he represents don't fit at all in Teasle's little kingdom.
In fact@@Scopper81 if Teasle was a vet, he'd have related more to John and maybe offered him a meal at the minimum. It plays better if the Sheriff is a civilian and doesn't actually know war. That naivety fits his reactions better.
@@SeanBlader You'd think, but another thing that came into play in the book was the anti-hippy sentiment among the older generation. The book came out in the early '70s when guys with long-ish hair were automatically seen as slackers and disreputable types, especially ones who drifted around like Rambo is seen doing.
There was a sense among older army veterans who had no connection to anyone who had fought in Vietnam that the guys who went to Vietnam lost America its first war. PTSD wasn't something that was talked about in public until well after Vietnam - veterans were meant to suffer in silence as they had for generations. The most anyone would say about an incident like one portrayed in this movie is that a guy went crazy in Vietnam and you just didn't want guys like that around, which informs the sheriff's attitude at the beginning.
This movie was in development for a long time before Stallone became involved. Loads of actors were considered for Rambo at one time or another, including Al Pacino who circled the project for a while - he would have been amazing, but I can't imagine we would have had any sequels. I haven't read it but I'm told that the book was more of an even two-hander with Rambo on one side and the sheriff on the other side and the original concept was to cast equally prominent actors of their own generation of actor in both roles and present the events in such a way that younger people would side with Rambo and older people would side with the sheriff, and both would be correct. There was no room for such subtleties in the '80s, though, but an early '70s "First Blood" is a mighty enticing prospect. Imagine Pacino playing Rambo opposite someone like Burt Lancaster as the sheriff - Lancaster was getting on a bit in the '70s but I'm not sure I'd predict anyone could kick his ass even then.
_First Blood_ has what I think may be my favorite BTS story of all time. When David Morrell sold the film rights to his book, his lawyer wanted to charge him an extra $500 to put a clause in the contract which would allow Morrell to share in the merchandising and sequel revenue. Morrell thought his lawyer was crazy. "What merchandising?" he said. "This book is about a psychotic killer! Who would want to make toys and lunchboxes out of that? And what sequels? Everybody's dead at the end!" "Sit down, son," his lawyer said. "You don't understand Hollywood. They can do anything they want with this book. Hell, they could turn it into a _musical_ if they wanted." So Morrell thought it over, and reluctantly forked over the $500. He later said that it was the best $500 he ever spent. That clause in his contract earned him millions.
I would have fired him and sold the rights to someone I could trust more.
In the book, Tiesel (the Sheriff) was a vet from the Korean Conflict. Which most of its vets felt overshadowed by tbe fact Korea was deemed a police action, not a war. Tiesel was a decorated soldier from that conflict. Whereas Rambo was awarded the Medal of Honor, the highest award in all the military, and Vietnam was a war. I am a vet of Iraq myself, and having military experience lends a lot of perspective on personal dynamics on this story.
I served a year in Vietnam and have been getting treatment for PTSD for more then 40 years but when i came home in 1971 nobody knew what it was
I mean, I'm sure most veterans have PTSD.
WW2 vets dealt with it by drinking
My stepdad is a Vietnam veteran. Marine. He’d suffered from PTSD for almost three decades, drug addiction, drinking nightmares, rage. He’d mostly gotten through the worst of it by the time he met my mom though. All but the nightmares.
@@molasorrosalom4846 So did i for years
Wasn't really called PTSD back then... they called it Shell Shock...
@@williamjackson4469 God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The movie was supposed to be a metaphor for the Vietnam war. A lot of violence. a lot of carnage. A lot of pain.
And then it just ...ended.
"This mission is over."
And those who did all the fighting and bleeding come home to find themselves unwanted. Spat upon. Denied jobs. “Baby-Killer” Their pain, neglected. Their justice, never heard. Their love, abandoned.
The original ending was edited and wrote out, the first filming, Colonel shoots Rambo and he died.
But they decided to keep him alive at the last minute.
That ending just holds such a special place in our hearts. Everyone today know the image of Rambo. Even when people haven’t watched it, they recognized the big muscles, the red bandana, wielding a belt-fed machine gun, that was Rambo.
But that ending, him breaking down. Showing us how we failed our veterans who did what they had to do to come back home. That ending still takes everyone by surprise. The treatment of our Vietnam vets was absolutely shameful and Stallone’s performance does their pain justice.
This scene is exactly why I will always say “Hate the war, but always love the warrior. For they sacrificed something that we could never possibly imagine.”
That scene at the end where Rambo is talking about his friend…really amazing, one of the most underrated monologues in cinema IMO. Stallone doesn’t get the credit he deserves for this or the Rocky movies. Great to see your reaction without the cultural bias of ‘oh, action flick, low-brow acting’.
' And I don't talk to anybody. '
That one last throw away line he says in a matter of factly way of a whisper just lays me out.
The monolog always gets me close to tears 😢at the end
A next door neighbor of mine, Vito A., was a Vietnam vet (Air Force) and told me of something equally horrorific; he and a group of other service men were being evacuated from a hostile area. He was seated on the edge of the helicopter. As it was ascending, a Vietnamese woman ran up to the helicopter and shoved a baby into his arms. The helicopter crew chief yelled “Vito, drop the kid!” Vito wasn’t going to drop a baby. The chew chief yelled again and was again disregarded. The crew chief then grabbed the baby and threw it out of the helicopter. Before it hit the ground, the baby exploded.
That event scarred Vito for life. He was told that the NVA would gut infants and wire them with bombs.
@@bobbates5507 Dear God. . .
Civil first world armed forces got nothing on third world true believers with religion and propaganda on their side.
I watched a guy smile before letting go of the trigger to his vest outside the gate to a FOB. "No one was killed so that one will never hit the news." True statement from the company commander. Another true believer with religion on his side. Nice kid from Texas A&M. We shipped him home under a flag because he thought the lord almighty provided his armor.
I could watch 100 babies blow up while freefalling to that giant sandbox before I have to watch another good man die in order to line someone else's pocket.
@@bobbates5507Lmfao!!
@@jsmithers. seriously?
I really liked your reaction to this film. My grandfather severed in Nam. He didn't talk about it. When I was a younger man, I worked at a 7-11 and we had a regular who would come in. When I was on a smoke break, he asked if he could join me and we became fast friends. He served in Vietnam as well. He was in his 70s and I was like 26. He was a Lieutenant in the Army's Long Range Patrol. He didn't really have a lot of family and he was at the end of his life. So I guess he'd figured he'd tell his war stories to this kid (me). I would show up at his trailer at least 3 times a week with a case of beer and smokes and spend hours just listening to his stories. He's with God now.
Great reaction! Thank you! PTSD IS REAL and Stallone did an excellent job capturing the depth of trauma soldiers go through. I had a friend who was a Navy Seal in Vietnam and would stay days right next to the enemy undetected. He was so traumatized and his wife would find him on the floor in the middle of the night. But he was a great guy. He seldom ever talked about it. He showed me some pics of him and his team while in Vietnam. They looked pretty scary you can tell they were some tough guys. But in the end only human and suffered with much trauma in the end.
This film helped a lot of veterans. PTSD wasn't really named back then, and the film changed people views on vets. Great reaction, as always!
It's been around for a long time. In WW1 they called it shell shock. In WW2 they referred to it as combat stress reaction. Sad thing is people that observed the reaction believed it to be a symptom of cowardice or lack of intestinal fortitude.
In the movie Ravenous there is a scene where the main character suffers from a panic attack while watching others carve large bloody cuts of steak at an awards dinner.
It's just the PC term for shell shock.
@@redrick8900 No. its not PC to call something by a medical term. You can have PTSD from many different things not just war. so calling PTSD shell shock is just stupid.
@@redrick8900 "Operational exhaustion" during Nam. Shell shock was WW2. PTSD was rolled out during desert storm.
I think the term shell shock was already in use in WW1.
It was filmed on location at Hope, British Columbia, Canada. They still have tours of all the locations used during filming.
Oh no kidding! I've been through Hope before, albeit briefly. It was just stunningly beautiful.
Was there in 1997, BC in Hope.
He broke 3 ribs I believe, not his back.
Can Ah Dah? so that is why they disliked the flag :P
I don't forget to visit Spuzzum, BC... "Spuzzum is beyond Hope"
I am REALLY GRATEFUL for the addition of the interview segments. THANK YOU for including them with this special reaction vid!!
It is so ridicolous that there are still people out there saying Stallone can't act. He puts so much heart in it. First Blood is still a masterpiece to this day.
What a great end vlog about this movie. You are right about the resentment. The town sheriff was a vet from the Korean war in the novel, and he resented Rambo, as the Korean war was mostly forgotten in the USA in the 70's 80's. I have watched this movie since 1985 every few years and it still moves me at the end. Stallone’s performance at the end is as good as it gets.
Except Rambo and Vietnam veterans had nothing to do with Korea being forgotten? Why not resent the government for forgetting about Korea instead? The town Sheriff and some his people should be under investigation for their conduct towards Rambo, and brought up on charges of abusing their power, and excessive force.
Well they could never be under investigation because in the book Rambo kills them all. And then some
It also has something to do with his estranged son. So there's this weird father / son dynamic on a strange level playing out.
Yeah, brought up on charges in the 70s???
Good luck with that.
@@Bigdolfmoney pretty sure at the end of the book Trautman also then kills Rambo, and possibly at the end of the movie as well but I think that ending wasn’t well received by test audiences so they changed it.
First reactor I've seen that knew exactly what "orange" meant immediately. Nice one Mary.
Yup, Agent Orange. Deadly stuff.
In the book, Teasle is a veteran of the Korean War. Part of his issue with Rambo stems from the fact that Vietnam got a lot more media attention than Korea did. Teasle is hurt, angry and jealous about that fact and he takes it out on Rambo.
PTSD wasn't even a term in use in the 80s much less something people talked about, but has always been there just called different names in WWII they called it shell shocked . This film actually opened the dialog that has lead to the understanding we have today about PTSD and other psychological issues suffered by solders in combat
When this movie came out in 1982, it started a survival knife craze. The knives had a compass on the end of the handle that screwed off and surgical supplies contained in the hollow handle.
Yup. I remember those knives.
Even recently I bought a knife specifically because it had the supplies kit in the handle. Never know when a needle and thread will come in handy.
I was nine years old and wanted one….didn’t happen though
On the back of those magazines. I wanted one so badly.
Denied.
I had two of those. Felt like a badass but the knives were so cheap. The 80s were a blast.
That’s why you get recommendations with these movie icons because even if a genre isn’t fully your thing, something within them your bond to take away from that is worth a watch. There’s a relatable element in them. And that is why they’re held as high regarded classes.
My brother went to Vietnam when he was 17, I was 7. He came home when I was 12, after stepping on a land mine. Being an inquisitive kid I asked him when we were alone what happened. He told me and I saw the look in his eyes and the expression on his face. We never spoke of it again. He taught me so much. Wish he were still here.
Everyone talks about the end and his monologue, which he s brilliant for sure, but his acting all through was great. These subtle nuanced moments like the moment with fingerprinting… his quiet reserved defiance, just trying to contain his anger and frustration and fear. It’s so good.
"In town, you're the law. Out here, it's me. Don't push it, of I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go." So good! He really tried his best to give them a way out.
Teasle had one good idea while chasing Rambo. He wore his brown pants!
Also, Rambo kills exactly zero people in this movie.
When he cried out after hitting the branch after falling in the trees, he REALLY did in REAL LIFE crack a rib. The cry out was actually Stallone crying out in real pain.
In answer to your question about the Sheriff. It was only hinted in the movie (you can see his medals in the police station), but he was also a veteran. In the novel it was explained that he was a Korean war vet, and people from that war tended to be forgotten because they were sandwiched between the heroes of WWII and the angst of Vietnam. He was angry at Rambo for being a Vietnam veteran and his drifting, and simultaneously jealous because Korean vets like himself were ignored.
Mary,
I am a Viet Nam vet, I served from 1961 to 1969. The tragedy of that war, was that the people that fought for their country, were spat on and scorned when they returned, by the very people they fought for.
My stepdad told me that. He’s a Vietnam veteran. Marine. He was once a haunted man, rage, regrets, nightmares, addictions. It was the mid 80s before he was even functional.
The tragedy of the war was that it was started by a false flag operation and wouldn't have been any more "won" than Afghanistan even if it went on for another 50 years. Nobody fought for the Americans that spat on you, you fought for the Americans that sent you there. IT IS OVER.
The weirdest and head scratching thing to me is that the ungrateful civilians knew that more than 2 million men drafted into service, they had no other choice but to serve. It made no sense for these vets to be treated that way by civilians when some had no choice.
When I first watched First Blood I had no knowledge of ptsd or mental problems from war. I only watched it for the action. However, as you mentioned, as time went on more people became aware of such things. So as I got older and rewatched the movie, I appreciated it even more for how it portrayed those issues. I loved your reaction!
I was really glad to hear that Mary interviewed a Vietnam veteran so she had some understanding of what the veterans went through.
I know a lot of people have already commented on it. But Vietnam was a super unpopular war. And when the Vietnam Vets returned home from combat they were horribly treated by everyone. A lot came home, had problems dealing with PTSD, and other health problems, and couldn't get the help they needed. Many ended up as homeless, drifters... The sheriff sees him as a drifter, and a potential problem. This movie, and Sly Stallone are so underrated
PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) was not widely known about or understood around the time First Blood came out, and this movie was one of the first that actually addressed the issue. PTSD had only been recently diagnosed in the 1970s among Vietnam veterans who were being treated for symptoms. Prior to the 1970s it was simply known as “Shell Shock."
I thought this was the first movie to address the battle stress of men returning home but was recently reminded The Deer Hunter touched on it also.
@@johnfriday5169 Correct. The Deer Hunter actually brought up the subject of PTSD in Vietnam veterans four years earlier.
Shell Shock in WW1, Battle Fatigue in WW2, Operational Exhaustion in Korea. Its as old as war itself and has had many names - and surely will change its name in the future.
@@dansiegel995 George Carlin had a funny bit on this.
It was also called "Delayed Stress" at the time.
Damn girl. So many great classics lately. Love it.
Hi Mary, this is based on a book of the same name. In the book William Teale (The Sheriff) was a Korean War veteran. BTW this movie started the debate on PTSD and how Veterans should be cared for. Also if you ever rewatch this movie Look at Sheriff Teasle with his own PTSD from the Korean War. In the Book Troutman had to kill Rambo because he was to far gone. Kirk Douglas was slated to play Troutman and Douglas wanted to be true to the book however Stallone disagreed and thought that would send the wrong message - they had creative differences and Douglas left the production. Stallone rewrote the last act of the film to give veterans HOPE 😀
Stallone always got alot of partody about his characters but that dialogue from Stallone was(still is) a brilliant piece of acting & writing. Underrated actor.
When this movie came out there were a lot of feelings about the VN war and it was taken out on the guys who fought it. I think this movie really opened the discussions that should have been had 10 years before. The "You cant turn it off" monologue at the end is probably one of the biggest eye openers for the general public. It was right about this time a lot more empathy and help started coming out for vets. It also opened a flood gate of VN centered movies.
I think you should repost that interview you did as a companion to this video. It could help a lot of people.
I think the wound was opened by the deer hunter and first blood rubbed salt in it
Anyone that thinks Sly Stallone is just an action hero, needs to watch this flick. His breakdown at the end is a masterful piece of acting
Also he's fantastic in "Copland". He didn't flex that dramatic muscle enough unfortunately.. But when he does is always Hypnotic.
He should be nominated for a Oscar that year.
@@mcgilj1 He actually began his career as a serious dramatic actor. When "Rocky" (which is NOT an action movie) came out, Sly was being compared to Brando! But "First Blood," about seven or eight movies later, is really the movie that diverted him into the action genre.
In 1982 there was a Green Beret Vietnam vet who lived a few houses down from us and my mother insisted that I (12yo) stay away from his house just because he was a Green Beret from Vietnam. Listen, and he was the nicest guy on the block.
Soldiers from Vietnam were not welcomed back home too kindly in the 80s, and PTSD was not recognized or acknowledged like it is nowadays. Today's audience sees this movie differently than when it first came out, still in all, it hits the heart hard.
My dad got drafted for Vietnam and he said that himself as well as other veterans returning got treated very badly at the airport when they came home. Everything that Stallone conveys at the end too Trautman is what every Vietnam veteran felt after the war was over. They were just doing a job that the government ordered them too do and the American public gave them hell for it because they believed that it wasn’t our war too fight.
Sylvester Stallone is my favorite actor since I was 9, my mother (rest in peace) introduce me to the marvelous world of cinema and for me, he's the best actor/writer/director ever!!! Love your reactions!
I had just joined the army when this movie came out. My father was in the Vietnam war. You are correct about Vietnam vets not having people empathize with them back in the early 80’s. It took a while before people really understood PTSD. Fortunately now people understand it and actually help those who suffer from it. Back then, if you weren’t visibly “crazy” for lack of better terms, nobody cared and nobody helped.
The end scene 💔 always breaks hearts, he just wants to be seen, heard and try and live a normal life but his PTSD, mental health and arseholes don't give him a break.
The ginger cop was a young David Caruso who, years later, would go on to play Lt. Horatio Caine on the TV series CSI: Miami. I recommend the book First Blood that the film is based on. It has a very different ending from the film.
In the US, town sheriffs are often elected, so they had to keep the townspeople pleased - not just strictly enforce the law. Often the people in small towns would want the sheriffs to keep homeless drifters away. There was also a stigma in many parts of the country against Vietnam vets, so that was two strikes against Rambo....
My favorite thing about this film is that no one expects it to hit as hard as it does at the end.
This is one of those rare movies that get's better on the second viewing because you root for Rambo even more the second time through.
The end is so fantastic and tragic, Stallone is so underrated
They didn't want to include it but Sly pushed for it.
Fun fact: Sylvester Stallone actually did fall from the tree, and it wasn't a stunt double. He actually did injure himself.
Yeah, that yell of pain wasn't acting, he broke a few ribs
The movie was primarily filmed in a town called Hope, British Columbia Canada, the mountain is called Mount Cheam. It really does look like Oregon and Washington though, that's why they filmed it there. Thanks for the great reaction videos ❤
You never cease to amaze Mary Cherry. You jumped into a 1982 story about someone who trudged through the 1960s and who faced mental illness because of other people's choices made without knowing any better themselves. Vietnam broke this country. And the recovery was only made possible by another war, sorry to say. The Gulf War of 1991 was the injection of pride and forgiveness that caused people not only to show pride for a war effort by young men and women, but to make them seek forgiveness for the absolutely horrible way they treated the broken veterans of that earlier war....the war in Vietnam. People FINALLY started showing appreciation for these poor souls....and sorrow for the sad way in which they were "welcomed home." The American soldier is everyone's friend... and sadly, the forgotten person at the end of every ugly waretime experience.
The term PTSD didn't really come into use until the late 70's and early 80's. The film helped alter the view and treatment of returning veterans from Viet Nam on till present as well as veterans from previous conflicts. Rambo became a term for describing someone who is able to competently deal with adversity and foes. Nowadays, the character John Wick has somewhat supplanted Rambo in describing an individual with similar traits and skills. :)
And I would argue it would take about another ten years to truly come in common usage
PTSD as a term may not have come into use until the 70s/80s but its been recorded as far back as 1300bc. The term came to light during WW1 being known as ''shell shock''.
@@shaggjones4854 And occasionally it was a plot point in various films but it wasn’t called PTSD or arguably the main subject of the film
The Best Days of our Lives, Coll Hand Luke are two examples
@@shaggjones4854 My dad called it "shell shock" and I didn't really know what that meant when he explained it to me as an 8 year old.
I got a better example of it from a friend who came back from Desert Storm. He said he was clearing a building and turned a corner to a stairway, and at the top of these stairs was some guy with an assault rifle and a hail of bullets came down towards my friend who returned fire. He'd wake up panicked in the middle of the night years later still wondering how he didn't get shot that day. One of the toughest guys I knew, and there he is almost breaking into tears in front of me... Not all that indifferent from John Rambo.
@@shaggjones4854 Its had many names. They called it soldier's heart during the civil war era.
My favorite scene is when Col. Trautman is trying to educate the Sheriff on Rambo.
Richard Crenna always had the best line of the movie in all three that he was in.
I come from something of a military family. My grandpa was in Vietnam, my dad served in Iraq and Bosnia for 29 years, I have a cousin who’s in the marines, my father was in the national guard, my grandfather was in the navy, my great grandpa was in the service, and this movie really does illustrate the effects of war and ptsd on a person, especially where the rest of society is concerned. I myself have ptsd, even though it’s more from my time growing up. It’s absolutely heartbreaking to see how people treat those who suffer from these demons. I… I’ve had over 40 suicide attempts, and I still wake up screaming, from the memories. But what we need is more care and compassion towards those who suffer in some way.
My dad was in 'nam and he loves this movie. He said that speech by John towards the end always hits to the heart....
The thing I love about Stallone films is that they typically have much deeper tones and emotions behind them than what you would think. For example, you'd expect Rocky to be a series about boxing, but it's the other things that make it so cherishable. The relationships, the motives, what gives you meaning, etc. In Rambo, you'd expect this to be just a typical action flick, but it's actually about a traumatized veteran's experience coming back to the U.S. and all the injustices that come with it simply for being a veteran, and the series continues following these injustices. And those are the things I've always loved, the undertones that give these films meaning. Stallone is an incredibly talented writer, especially for the 80s / 90s.
Rocky is not a boxing movie. It is a love story set in the class af have-nots in America.
In the book the sherif was Korean war veteran, which was pretty much forgotten war at that point, hence the hostility towards Rambo from the start.
I was born in 1979... 4 years after the Fall of Saigon... What you seen in this movie is exactly how the veterans of Vietnam were treated. This movie was the wake up call and our veterans of Vietnam were finally treated better. However today as I post this. Many of them are gone. Soon, they will be memory. Never forget how many of the veterans changed my life.
Part of the reason Rambo was targeted by the Sheriff and his deputy in the copter was because in the book, they were both Korean war veterans and were basically part of the "honorable" soldiers from WW 1 and WW 2, and were basically forgotten and overshadowed by Vietnam Vets who were seen negatively cause they lost their war and the news showed a lot of the atrocities fr the first time ever from war in that one and it turned a lot of civilians against the soldiers. This was not a new thing for US soldiers though, it was just the first time people found out what was going on in those countries due to American presence.
Well yea the media (TV news) played a big part in revealing what was really going on during the Vietnam war which helped to drive opposition to it. I saw an interesting documentary on TV which focused on that. And according to this doco, with all the future wars and military excursions that the US was involved in, they had their own military media group so you only see what they want you to see and hear what they want you to hear.
I'm a former Aussi just like you.
I saw this when I was like 13 in Australia 40 years ago ,it blew me away.
Now I'm 48 ,live in Europe now but this movie especially the ending still moves me !
BTW ,the movie wasn't shot in the US despite the story ,it was shot in Canada actually !
This was filmed in Hope (it's on all the signs in the movie), BC, Canada, which is about an hour from me, and 2 hours east of Vancouver. The helicopter scene was filmed at the nearby Othello Tunnels, an abandoned train route which snaked their way through those cliffs, and is now a hiking trail park. Very rarely does Canada get to be Canada in a Hollywood film.
Stallone is a very talented actor and writer ,as well as one of if not the greatest action stars ever.
He was kind of the catalyst that defined modern action dramas.
Wow cant believe you have not watched this awesome Classic yet ! love your reactions the 1st movie is one of its kind and the character of Rambo and the acting of stallone here is great and suits him perfectly.
What a great Stallone masterpiece performance at the end makes me cry every time cuz it shows you how traumatic PTSD is and they had no idea what it was back then in the '80s people treated the Vietnam vets with no respect then coming back home to a world that they don't understand all they understand is war what they got sent to do and they come back not as heroes but what you don't want to be called😢
The amount of people that just track so far into the movie, just to see you cry, is astounding.
When Rambo gets back to the town, he's still in "engaging the enemy" mode.
His SF training dictates that he attack the "enemies" infrastructure (fuel, water, weapons, power, communications, fuel, and cause frustration and distrust of local authorities through their inability to stop the treat to their town). It's pretty textbook.
Stallones lockup is a must , nobody has reviewed it for some reason
"DTA... Don't trust anybody..."
Mary, thank you for sharing your interview with that veteran. 🙏🏼
Green berets? You should watch Commando! "I hope you're scared, Matrix, because this green beret is gonna kick your big ass?" "I eat green berets for breakfast. And right now I'm very hungry"!
One of the secret stars of the movie is, once more, the score of the late great Jerry Goldsmith. That guy understood like no other how much of the emotions of a movie is delivered by the music, and he was extremely talented in delivering exactly the emotion the movie needs.
The sheriff (in the book) was a Korean War veteran, and didn’t like the attention being given to the Vietnam vets. A lot of the attention was negative, but good or bad, he didn’t like that the Korean War vets didn’t get the same attention. That’s what led to a lot of his immediate animosity towards Rambo.
And to this very day, Mary Cherry is still asking, "Where is the pilot who flew the chopper? Where's the pilot who flew the chopper? Where's the pilot who flew the chopper? Where's the pilot who flew the chopper?" LOL
Good reaction to a classic. Btw, I have this movie on DVD (or BluRay) and also on my hard drive, and all versions have the subtitles. Not sure why the subtitles were not available on the version you watched, though (unless you watched it on VHS...lmao 🤣).
Anyway, the Sherrif treated immediately Rambo poorly not because it was the 1980s (it's a timeless movie that can be based on ANY year or ANY era --- so the year has nothing to do with the characters actions). The Sherrif treated Rambo poorly because he saw Rmbo as a VAGRANT, and he wanted to keep vagrants away from his small boring town.
Also, per what you were saying around the 7:32 minute mark when the police officers were abusing John Rambo, and in which you basically said that people in the 1980s didn't know about PTSD --- well the fact is, Police Abuse can take place in ANY era. Police Abuse also occurs today. And no, not all police officers are abusive. But these stories can be told in pretty much any era, in most countries. Regardless of occupation, some human beings are abusive, while some human beings are not. And abusive human beings don't really think or care about what sort of psychological issues their victims are already going through. In fact, many homeless veterans even today in 2023 either commits suicide (over 20 suicides per day here in the USA by veterans), and/or are typically abused by police officers, the VA Hospital system, other homeless people, street thugs, and drug dealers. So with all due respect, we are not as enlightened today in 2023 as we pretentiously believe we are. Because no one today in 2023 who are abusing homeless veterans gives any thought or consideration whatsoever about those veterans suffering from PTSD.
It's kind of ironic that the town sign said welcome to hope when all Rambo experienced was despair.
masterpiece of a movie.
Aww, Lola is such a good kitty.
My favorite Rambo movie
This movie really hit me hard when I first saw it
So deep and emotional about veteran's PTSD
Love your reactions
You can also see "Its a Wonderful Life". The main actor went to WW2 and a bomber pilot and showed a lot of PTSD in part of the filming in the bar. You can really see the desparation in his eyes. All the actors felt really bad for him as it drastically changed his personality as an actor.
Firstly, this is one of the better post-flick reviews and analysis I've seen. It's satisfying to see someone with some understanding and experience with a Veteran connecting the dots as you have.
One thing I must say regarding the editing is that I always thought Rambo's line was "Back here, I can't even hold a job parking cars". I say that as I have seen one other reaction bleep out the word "parking" as if it was the F word. From what I've read and what I hear it seems as though the dialogue I've written is correct.
Another thing to know about Vietnam Veterans is that they weren't well received after returning from service (particularly and mostly in the USA as far as I know). That war was heavily protested and returning personnel were heavily scorned, and all were judged and categorized as ruthless and inhumane executioners - which is not true (though there were a few absolutely shocking atrocities reported by both sides). Sorry for anyone who actually had to go through that.
Finally, as far as I've heard from someone who read the novel themselves, Sherriff Teasle was actually a Korean war veteran (AKA The Silent War, between North and South Korea), and they were basically forgotten and told to STFU and deal with it themselves (i.e. don't complain or show 'weakness' and be a good, clean and well-shaven member of society) - insinuating that Sherriff Teasle holds a grudge towards other war Veterans who have received attention of any kind (it's a little more complicated though I reckon that is the basic premise for the dynamic between them).
Apologies for the rambling, and thanks for your insight.
When I first saw this movie my dad took me & my sister to the video store to rent a few movies for the weekend. It was 1983 and I was ten years old. At the time I just thought this was such a cool guy movie with the guns and explosions and Rambo being such a bad ass. The ending was lost on me at the time. Now that I'm an adult and understand everything Rambo went through the ending really packs a punch. For Rambo to be tough as nails and finally break it hits you in the feelz.
It's crazy how this film has been so good for just about everyone.
One of my favorite movies. I choke up at the end every time. ❤
This is on the short list of movies that are actually better than the book they are based on. It was such a fantastic re-write.