I am dutch. We have these stores we call: Kringloopwinkels. Stuff people do not need, they can bring it in and have the store sell it. They wont earn any money, but just to help others out. I dunno how you call em in English. Anyways, it is second hand stuff. And guess what you can find there? Silver cutlery. For pennies. So why would i want to visit a "poundland" where things cost a pound or more, if i can pick em up for pennies because ignorant people do not know what some stuff is worth? @@stephen3654 there will always be ignorant people. So no shortage of supplies there.
If I ever went to this show I'd expect it would go exactly like this. I would know something but then start overthinking and then answer something it obviously could never be.
I know I should get out more but I nearly fell off my chair when he said Chromium was an alloy. I thought from that moment on, ' were on rocky ground here. '
Before stainless steel (accidentally discovered by Harry Brearley in a Sheffield lab in the early 1900s), Chrome was used to line some gun barrels to prevent them rusting out, but would have to be repeatedly replaced as it's not the most durable substance
If you think of all the stainless steel around ,could 10% of it be made up of silver? Silver is a valuable expensive metal ,they make jewellery out of it.
@@stevehughes240 Exactly; it's £0.24 per gram for pure silver, Sterling is even cheaper. When you buy jewellery from silver, you pay more for the craftsmanship than the silver! Many times more for the craftsmanship
@@SgtMclupus If a table knife weighs 100 grams and, as you had said, 10% of it, or 10 grams, is made of silver, then the cost of the silver for one knife is already £2.40. You haven't added in the cost of the steel and, like you'd said, the craftsmenship, which will make each knife cost well over £3, say around £4. That's quite expensive. But that's not the important issue. Steel, or rather, iron, is more reactive than silver. So when you combine them together, if they are stable when combined together, there'll be a electrical reaction whenever they are in contact with water or moisture and a bit of impurities, and the steel will corrode easily, thus making your cutlery always rusty and unappealing to use. Chromium is used because it's more reactive than iron, and because it forms a layer of whitetish oxide over the iron that prevents the iron from corroding.
The thing is, I'm a welder and a machinist, I work with Stainless steel on occasion and I've heard it contains chromium, we have to wear respiration equipment because of it, However in my machinist role, I often use a material called silver steel. I mean, My first instinct was chromium but it certainly got me thinking. Even for someone who works in this specific field, I wasn't 100% certain. Then I remembered back in the 20's in America, stainless steel was marketed as chrome steel. So that made up my mind. Nonetheless a great round! even though he didn't get the question right.
How does that help? I guess they'd know Chromium is an element instead of an alloy, but given they said steel would be mixed with it, not being an element isn't an issue.
@@chipinn1 He was thinking chromium was an alloy. Had he refreshed himself he would have known it was a element not an alloy. He was right with his reasoning with the other elements, and he would have realised it was the most likely.
@@brontewcat knowing it’s an element wouldn’t tell you it’s part of stainless steel alloy but I take your point it would have made it easier to take a reasonable guess. Was more tryna make a point that just learning what’s on the period table for quiz shows will rarely give u the answer to the chemistry questions because you mostly have to know how these elements are used the context of real life.
Cam was never found again after this show was aired, people say he started a new life abroad with a new wife and kids, people say he found god and now meditates,……. But what really happened was he was found buried in Sheffield in a silver coffin, we all learnt a lesson here stop reading this thank you
The guy even said ... could the rust be the no alloy steel coming through but then he forgot all logic. I thought he'd get it and then only to talk himself out of it.
You know the STEM education in your country is in the dumps when your country is the one that came up with stainless steel about a century ago, there are only 3 main metals in it (there can be trace amounts of impurities) and the material is in everyday use.
@@donmontague4107 it’s the biggest economic crisis/sanctions that we inflicted on ourselves that’s for sure. Facts. Government data - 4% long term negative economic growth. 🤷♂️
@abigmonkeyforme "Tungsten is "too heavy" (actually too dense...) to be a component of steel. In other words, if you have basic knowledge of these metals, you know tungsten makes no sense as a component of steel." And yet... tungsten makes perfect sense as a component of high speed steel. Fancy that, eh?
his friend who said silver said he wasn't sure, he was guessing I don't know why he was so swayed to his answer when he said at the beginning "it's not silver".
@@SgtMclupus Silver is about £0.62 and Chromium, as far as I can see, is around £0.01. Ferrochromium, which is used in stainless steel, is even cheaper, working out to less than a third of a penny per gram of Chromium.
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq I looked up the price of silver when I wrote the comment, and used that price, so how you can contradict the price I wrote baffles me... 🤷🏻♂️
Stainless steel is wonderful and then I discovered Chrome Vandium tools which led me to research the word Chrome as in Chrome Alloy Wheels - and lo and behold - early 19th century: from French, from Greek khrōma ‘colour’ (some chromium compounds having brilliant colours).
A £10 set of 16 pieces of stainless steel cutlery couldn’t possibly be 10 per cent silver 😂 I thought it was Tungsten so I was just as wrong as him in all honesty but thought NO WAY is it silver 😮
Never mind the cost, silver oxidises and turns black... And it's very common to see "CR10 Stainless Steel". That should have been a fairly simple question... But I am from Sheffield, the home of the Bessemer furnace.
Oh, well... In the country where I was raised, there is a huge emphasis on studying various subjects in elementary and high school. Sometimes it is quite painful if you want to study philosophy at Uni and still have to study Physics, Chemistry, and Biology to the same extent as your schoolmates going to natural science after high school, but sometimes, it gains fruit :-D Like you are not considering your mixing bowl from Ikea (3GBP) is made from 10% silver. And more: to think Chromium is an alloy.
It wasn't invented. It's on the periodic table as an element with the atom number 24. It was DISCOVERED in 1798 by a person named Nicholas Louis Vauquelin. The name is derived from the greek 'chroma' which means colour. It's melting point is about 500 degrees celsius higher than carbon steel.
I always assumed that Vic Reeves was quite well educated. Why on earth did he keep saying "Chromium is an alloy"? And seriously I thought that about 90% of the general pubic knew that Chromium is what makes steel into Stainless steel. It's relative innert nature and high lustre is also the reason it used to plate ordinary steel.
Chrome (on your wheels) is a thin layer of chromium, which is an element, *not an alloy!* But how in heaven’s name can they possibly think it’s silver???
I can’t believe how ignorant a petrol head could be on this question. Chrome plated bumpers. Chrome doesn’t rust but steel does. Brought up in the sixties you know all about chrome plate. The best quality stainless steel always has more chrome in it. I am really shocked that Clarkson wasn’t sure. Jay Leno would be laughing his head off now.
What do Microsoft Edge and stainless steel have in common?
They’re both at least 10% Chromium.
Boom Boom - oh you made a joke that makes the Geeks laugh. What do you know about Chromium and the Periodic Table ?
And they are both overrated.
Oh my god, does he realise how expensive stainless steel would be if it consisted of 10% silver?!
Exactly. If it were so I would sell all the cutlery I got from Poundland for more than I paid for it.
@@speedy692 but you wouldn't have been able to get it from poundland in the first place
@@stephen3654Lol. I suppose not.
I am dutch.
We have these stores we call: Kringloopwinkels.
Stuff people do not need, they can bring it in and have the store sell it.
They wont earn any money, but just to help others out.
I dunno how you call em in English.
Anyways, it is second hand stuff.
And guess what you can find there?
Silver cutlery. For pennies.
So why would i want to visit a "poundland" where things cost a pound or more, if i can pick em up for pennies because ignorant people do not know what some stuff is worth?
@@stephen3654
there will always be ignorant people.
So no shortage of supplies there.
If I ever went to this show I'd expect it would go exactly like this. I would know something but then start overthinking and then answer something it obviously could never be.
“Say again”, a phone a friend who can’t even listen to the bloody question, hopeless.
At no point at all did he say "say again" you muppet.
He repeated the word stainless steal.
How your comment got so many likes is beyond me.
How tf they thought silver was a viable answer is beyond me.
Exactly the price of a pan would be £1ooo plus doesn't silver melt easily ?
@@lliambunter Silver isn't that expensive really; it's £0.24 per gram, so a pan of 1kilo would be £24 of silver
@@SgtMclupus i was exaggerating a bit to get my point across
@@SgtMclupusyou multiply a gram by 1000, not 100. A gram of silver is approx 60p ergo A Kilo of Silver is approx £600.
@@AfroGaz71 10%, so 100g.
I know I should get out more but I nearly fell off my chair when he said Chromium was an alloy. I thought from that moment on, ' were on rocky ground here. '
Before stainless steel (accidentally discovered by Harry Brearley in a Sheffield lab in the early 1900s), Chrome was used to line some gun barrels to prevent them rusting out, but would have to be repeatedly replaced as it's not the most durable substance
Brearley did not invent or discover stainless steel - he created a specific version of it.
It’s so difficult to watch when he constantly say Chromium as an alloy
"Says"..... Yes, annoying.
Cr at the periodic table: I'm 24/7 at 24th place here, guys! ( ˘︹˘ )
"is"... agreed, annoying.
You can turn it off instead of moaning about it - or maybe you are someone who always likes to moan - maybe
@@robinwhelan8061 you could also choose to ignore this comment or moan about it, but I guess you like to moan about things
If you think of all the stainless steel around ,could 10% of it be made up of silver? Silver is a valuable expensive metal ,they make jewellery out of it.
It's not that expensive.
@@stevehughes240 Exactly; it's £0.24 per gram for pure silver, Sterling is even cheaper.
When you buy jewellery from silver, you pay more for the craftsmanship than the silver! Many times more for the craftsmanship
@@SgtMclupus If a table knife weighs 100 grams and, as you had said, 10% of it, or 10 grams, is made of silver, then the cost of the silver for one knife is already £2.40. You haven't added in the cost of the steel and, like you'd said, the craftsmenship, which will make each knife cost well over £3, say around £4. That's quite expensive.
But that's not the important issue. Steel, or rather, iron, is more reactive than silver. So when you combine them together, if they are stable when combined together, there'll be a electrical reaction whenever they are in contact with water or moisture and a bit of impurities, and the steel will corrode easily, thus making your cutlery always rusty and unappealing to use.
Chromium is used because it's more reactive than iron, and because it forms a layer of whitetish oxide over the iron that prevents the iron from corroding.
Stupidity at its best
@@stevehughes240 SS out of iron and 10% Ag would cost arround $30 per 310g of the alloy.
The tension!!! I didn’t know the answer, but that was a whirlwind!!
The thing is, I'm a welder and a machinist, I work with Stainless steel on occasion and I've heard it contains chromium, we have to wear respiration equipment because of it, However in my machinist role, I often use a material called silver steel. I mean, My first instinct was chromium but it certainly got me thinking. Even for someone who works in this specific field, I wasn't 100% certain. Then I remembered back in the 20's in America, stainless steel was marketed as chrome steel. So that made up my mind.
Nonetheless a great round! even though he didn't get the question right.
It's so frustrating watching this when you know the answer from the start
How come he cod get another phone afriend
@@dillianwhyte443 Covid so no ask the audience - you get 2x phone friend.
@@larry365 lol
Jezza didn't ask about Jim's friend Ron, but we all know him as the reporter and journalist Ron Waffle.
I think if I went on the show I would go over the periodic table a few times.
How does that help? I guess they'd know Chromium is an element instead of an alloy, but given they said steel would be mixed with it, not being an element isn't an issue.
Just looking at the periodic table wouldn't help you answer this question thou...
@@chipinn1 He was thinking chromium was an alloy. Had he refreshed himself he would have known it was a element not an alloy. He was right with his reasoning with the other elements, and he would have realised it was the most likely.
@@brontewcat knowing it’s an element wouldn’t tell you it’s part of stainless steel alloy but I take your point it would have made it easier to take a reasonable guess. Was more tryna make a point that just learning what’s on the period table for quiz shows will rarely give u the answer to the chemistry questions because you mostly have to know how these elements are used the context of real life.
In German, stainless steel is also called "Chromstahl" (chrome steel). I am not sure if the expression is also common in English.
It is not, sadly
even in czech we call stainless steel dishes chromed dishes:o)
I don't think Cam will feel too ashamed.. at least he didn't think Chromium was an alloy
Did he say it he didn't?
Cam was never found again after this show was aired, people say he started a new life abroad with a new wife and kids, people say he found god and now meditates,……. But what really happened was he was found buried in Sheffield in a silver coffin, we all learnt a lesson here stop reading this thank you
😂😂
Wikipedia says Vic did mechanical engineering at some point. Must have dropped out....
Its not Vic lol I only realised when they said his name on the phone a friend lol
@@zakzanotti5868
Vic is his stage name
@@zakzanotti5868 it is Vic Reeves tho
I have a masters in Mech Eng and, at least from what I recall, that was never covered. If it was, it was probably mentioned as a passing titbit.
@@TearTheRoof0ffdid my bachelors in mech engineering and it is 100% absolutely covered in the materials science class
People start with false logic, don't they? " Chromium's an alloy." "Chrome rusts". Errr, no.
The guy even said ... could the rust be the no alloy steel coming through but then he forgot all logic. I thought he'd get it and then only to talk himself out of it.
Good quality chrome does not rust. Shit Chinese stuff does .
@@rocknral Chrome doesn't rust at all, that's why it's used to electroplate other metals.
I thought that was Vic Reeves until he said his name 😂
It is!
@@kbarr07 I know I'm takking the piss
I would go with Chrome just because of how shiny they are just like stainless steel. And I know damn sure they didnt put any silver in it.
I bet Bob would have known.
If silver was in it, people would melt down old stainless steel to extract the valuable metal.
Or just wear cutlery as pendants
You know the STEM education in your country is in the dumps when your country is the one that came up with stainless steel about a century ago, there are only 3 main metals in it (there can be trace amounts of impurities) and the material is in everyday use.
We used to be an empire and now we’ve got Brexit. Things change
@@Ron.S. If you think that Brexit is the biggest problem with Britain since the Empire, then you're a bigger problem than Brexit all by yourself.
@@donmontague4107 it’s the biggest economic crisis/sanctions that we inflicted on ourselves that’s for sure. Facts. Government data - 4% long term negative economic growth. 🤷♂️
@Ron.S. We used to be an empire, we then got consumed by another empire, which we only recently managed to free ourselves from
@@MrEdrftgyuji Did you forget about the other empire that you are still consumed by?
imagine thinking such a commonly used thing in such bulk for everything from bayinets to cutlery was made of silver!!! 😂🤦🏻♂️
How on Earth could anyone think there is a precious metal in stainless steel?
From the thumbnail I thought Harold Shipman had come back from the dead
He might've known about stainless steel. His door, window and toilet were made out of it.
1:47 lmao
Silver too expensive, tungsten too heavy (same as gold), Lithium combusts when it gets wet, only one choice left.
"too heavy"? Since when was that a consideration?
@@grantm6514 This is used on cars, right?
@@mscolli3 Stainless steel? Hardly used on cars at all.
@@grantm6514 Ok, guess I was thinking of something else.
@abigmonkeyforme "Tungsten is "too heavy" (actually too dense...) to be a component of steel. In other words, if you have basic knowledge of these metals, you know tungsten makes no sense as a component of steel." And yet... tungsten makes perfect sense as a component of high speed steel. Fancy that, eh?
Why would silver be in stainless Steel !😂😂😂😂
Bloody hell, he’s Vic Reeves doppelgänger. That’s who I thought it was until Jeremy said Jim
Psst… Vic Reeves is a stage name for Jim Moir.
@@StellifyMedia right, I didn’t know that
Vic Reeves is the stage name! Did he seem to be in character? Jim Moir is his real name!
@@joshuataylor3550 cheers for pointing out the mistake - hadn’t had my morning coffee yet when replying 🥴
@@joshuataylor3550 interesting. I always believed Vic Reeves was his real name. You learn something new everyday
I mean .... It was one of the easiest questions tpb.
He immediately says it's not silver!
Which year is this clip from?
2021
Cor, to think I could go and weigh in my cutlery!
his friend who said silver said he wasn't sure, he was guessing I don't know why he was so swayed to his answer when he said at the beginning "it's not silver".
its amazing that anyone could think silver, which is moderately expensive, would be needed to produce stainless steel
Silver is £0.24 per gram; I wouldn't call that the least expensive.
Titanium is £3.60 per gram, Gold is £47.92 per gram, just for comparison
@@SgtMclupus I'm well aware of the price of silver... it would make steel much more expensive
@@SgtMclupus Silver is about £0.62 and Chromium, as far as I can see, is around £0.01. Ferrochromium, which is used in stainless steel, is even cheaper, working out to less than a third of a penny per gram of Chromium.
@@SgtMclupus But then that IS the least expensive. At least of the ones you wrote.
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq I looked up the price of silver when I wrote the comment, and used that price, so how you can contradict the price I wrote baffles me... 🤷🏻♂️
Chromium, without looking. Helps stop the rusting
That was so easy smh...
My god that contestant looks like Vic Reeves. Sounds like him too! I thought this was a celebrity version of millionaire at first.
I was sure it was Vic Reeves....I was looking through the comments to be sure it wasn't him!
Fuck...just finished watching...it was Vic Reeves!
Jim Moir is Vic Reeves.
How do they not know this 😂
Chromium is not an alloy. It is an element and a Transition metal. Molecular Weight 24
Wait.. Phone a friend no.2? They can do that?
They could, while Ask The Audience was out of action due to COVID
Silver and tungsten are too expensive. Lithium is too reactive. So it can only be chromium
I'm halfway through this clip, tempted to google the answer but I'd feel like a fraud (cough)
Silver is expensive, Lithium for batteries, Tungsten is like the toughest metal in the world. So chromium would have been my answer.
I thought it was tungsten.
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That was Vic Reeves, I doubted myself for a minute.
It's chrome and nickel.
Did it take the whole show to answer this question
Stainless steel is wonderful and then I discovered Chrome Vandium tools which led me to research the word Chrome as in Chrome Alloy Wheels - and lo and behold - early 19th century: from French, from Greek khrōma ‘colour’ (some chromium compounds having brilliant colours).
A £10 set of 16 pieces of stainless steel cutlery couldn’t possibly be 10 per cent silver 😂
I thought it was Tungsten so I was just as wrong as him in all honesty but thought NO WAY is it silver 😮
When did two Phone-A-Friends start? Was that only because there was no audience?
Yeah - audience is back soon though!
Big fan from Sri Lanka!! I watch 5 country versions of this show!! Afyer 10 years still watching the show 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I can tell you that many people from Sheffield would have known that, regardless of age.
Never mind the cost, silver oxidises and turns black... And it's very common to see "CR10 Stainless Steel". That should have been a fairly simple question... But I am from Sheffield, the home of the Bessemer furnace.
Anyone who’s ever welded stainless knows about chromium 😂
Oh, well... In the country where I was raised, there is a huge emphasis on studying various subjects in elementary and high school. Sometimes it is quite painful if you want to study philosophy at Uni and still have to study Physics, Chemistry, and Biology to the same extent as your schoolmates going to natural science after high school, but sometimes, it gains fruit :-D Like you are not considering your mixing bowl from Ikea (3GBP) is made from 10% silver. And more: to think Chromium is an alloy.
Clarkson is a muppet thinking Chrome rusts, it is electro plated onto steel bumpers to prevent rust.
>“Trusting Your Phone-a-Friend Over Ask the Host”
>the host is right
Oh no.
Ugh the sound of him knocking his teeth together
Since when does chrome rust?
How do you do so many shows about cars (Jeremy) and not know this cold?
when was Chrome invented? Many billions of years ago at least
It wasn't invented. It's on the periodic table as an element with the atom number 24. It was DISCOVERED in 1798 by a person named Nicholas Louis Vauquelin. The name is derived from the greek 'chroma' which means colour. It's melting point is about 500 degrees celsius higher than carbon steel.
@@eidodk so who failed to read between the lines?
@@hauskalainen to be fair there's only one line
That was a painful watch
Silver WTF !!!!
I always assumed that Vic Reeves was quite well educated. Why on earth did he keep saying "Chromium is an alloy"? And seriously I thought that about 90% of the general pubic knew that Chromium is what makes steel into Stainless steel. It's relative innert nature and high lustre is also the reason it used to plate ordinary steel.
🤣🤣🤣 silver!!!???????
wtf 🤦🏻♂️😆
Oh dear
"ladies and gentlemen"
But ehm, no audience. O wait, they were on tv screens.
Covid, yeah, wonderful.
The guy on the phone was not listening at all silver would be so expensive.
Always thought both of these weren't as intelligent as they would us to think.
I thought it was 3% carbon in stainless steel
That’s just plain steel, which is an alloy of iron and carbon.
Chrome rusts ? 😳
Chrome (on your wheels) is a thin layer of chromium, which is an element, *not an alloy!* But how in heaven’s name can they possibly think it’s silver???
Steel bicycle frames are often called “Chro-moly”. Hence my logic of Chromium.
To be fair, I think that I would trust most people over Jeremy Clarkson. 😅
Are you serious? Clarkson is the IBEX.
Probably a housewife would have known. Cutlery, kitchen etc 18/8, 18/10:stainless. Chrome ...nickel . How could Jeremy not know .
That was intense
This is so awkward with no audience, like why make such an event if it is just two of them, no need for the drama
I thought Vic was his real name
Wait you can use phone a friend twice??
Whos jim??
This was so protracted.
What ? That wasn’t Vicious Reeves
Stainless steel consists of iron carbon and sldo 10.5%chromium
Cant believe he is going with his original name of jim moir now, hell get misnamed as vic for thevrest of his life
He gave his reasons in interviews.
@@occono3543 👍I know bud
Why can he phone twice?
During the pandemic we replaced Ask The Audience with a second Phone-A-Friend
How does Jeremy of all people think that chrome rusts. Old rusted cars in junkyards will have perfectly shiny chrome
“When was chromium invented?” 🤦♂️
Stainless has to have at least 10.5 % chromium.
How on earth can it be silver???.what a wally,lol..gg
Shit, I thought that was Vic Reeves
It is 😅
Chromium is the answer; its not a ally, its and eliment and Number 24 in the periodic table .
How thick is that
Always strange to see Vic out of character and without Bob
Amitabh bachan in indian KBC millionaire show asked SSteel inventor name😁😁😁
Chrome. Save yourself
I can’t believe how ignorant a petrol head could be on this question. Chrome plated bumpers. Chrome doesn’t rust but steel does. Brought up in the sixties you know all about chrome plate. The best quality stainless steel always has more chrome in it. I am really shocked that Clarkson wasn’t sure. Jay Leno would be laughing his head off now.
Silver in its natural form too soft
Lots of experts in the comments lol how insecure do you need to be to let everyone know how easy you think the answer is