I always picture the person frantically entering the moves into the engine breathing through their mouth while their clock ticks down. And then when Aman just flags them they sit back in their chair -"damn"- and take another bite of microwave mac and cheese.
Not really, cheater is just watching the game and computer does moves for him. Maybe the cheater wasnt even watching what is happening. Just came back and saw he lost. Aman is a legend 😂
Opponent somehow crafted an endgame where aman had three isolated pawns with light square promotion squares while they had a light square bishop and all connected pawns
@@R1ester always interesting to watch cheaters in the endgame. Any human would force trades to make the conversion easier. But the computer, wanting to maintain the highest possible evaluation, often ignores these moves in favor of the more surgical approach
I just love how it is always immediately obvious to GM's how "clinical" the computer moves are, and that instead of giving up, they sit there and try their damndest to beat stockfish
Stockfish used by a bad player* in the hands of a good player, stockfish moves can be almost as undetectable as anal beads if we're talking about only one game (trends can still be observed on the long run though
@@thememaster7 I guess the fact that your so naive about cheating is a good thing lol. The moves used by a good player are not the same as an obvious cheat. An engine gives many winning lines. A good chess player knows which ones they can use to win without making it seem bot like.
Hambleton did damn well to last as long as he did against this engine, usually they can shred even grand masters in under 30 moves but he really dug deep defensively and kept things from falling apart for just long enough for the scrub to have to play his own moves
Yeah, 5 min game vs engine.. but i was watching and thinking like "no way Aman wins that with 15 seconds vs more than a minute from THAT.." lol I love your videos guys, keep it up!)
@@Add9Sus4 That would make only sense to just boost your confidence by numbers for a short sec. Imagine having an overinflated Elo just to get absolutely humiliated and obliterated by a player seemingly on your level but actually being a few tiers above you. Well, no thanks... i rather loose a close battle against someone on my tier than having a higher elo and no chance in competing at all knowing that every game i will play without assistence will be a guranteed "L" for me.
@@dpgsince85 actually the idea is very obvious. Just prophylaxis against bishop h3 check. The bizarreness of the move is that no human will consider this prophylaxis any useful at that position, because there is no obvious threat. But computers see more
It is not completely ridiculous-- black wants to play Ng4 to threaten e3 but then white has Bh3 pinning the knight. So move the king out of the way first. Still a very strong move though
lol that's not the part that is unhuman... the part that is unhuman is that how consistently strong she was apparently playing throughout the whole game, constantly pressuring a GM Aman with no hope at all, and giving him a terrible endgame... insane
@@Ken-gs6ie@Ken-gs6ie That is not what he is saying, he literally said "no human came up with it." He is clearly referring to this video, where there was clearly not a human who came up with that move. Many moves preceding be6 were highly sus, as was the time usage.
And the computer must have seen it before the e4 sack + queen trade, otherwise black's losing a pawn for minimal comp. That's what makes it especially dirty, since a 2000+ on a 5min game could luck out and see a nice tactic like that, but having the foresight to set it up and utilize it is almost superhuman
e4 followed by Be6 are not known theory and required extremely deep tactical calculations to work, something that a random online player is not going to be able to calculate in 6 seconds of thought
Love these videos Aman, you sound as excited and in awe of some of the tactics, ideas and intermezzos in this game as we are when we watch you pull off unreal tactics with ease. Especially at 8:28. Shame it's you playing stock fish, but hey, if it helps you fall in love with chess again and gives you fresh ideas for future games, then it's all good
Whats so funny about this is that even I could've defeated Aman in that endgame with him having 10 seconds left, but the guy is appearantly so bad he needed help even for that endgame loool! I would've just flagged Aman by making bad moves quickly and giving him uncomfortable checks even if I couldnt
So guy plays 4 secs/move the entire game then starts premoving at the 6 second mark. You would think if he was oiling he would have better time management skillz. Also vary your move times bud. Don't make it so obvious.
insane... 7 seconds vs a minute with a horrible position and no increment... opponent is utter trash... all they had to do was more premoves or make random moves since aman was premoving, but of course one can't refer to stockfish that fast...
It takes a special kind of loser to cheat in online chess. What are they after? Fake respect? I mean what does that actually accomplish? This guy didn’t even try to hide it.
I agree. What a pathetic sad kind of existence. I truly pity anyone who has to stoop to that level to glean any kind of meaningful emotion from their sad existence all the while trying to disguise it to themselves as "me a troll" or something. Oooof.
Some weirdos that like making other people angry, or just curious to see how long they can go without ban, or they're addicted to seeing an elo number go up even though it means jack shit
Bishop E6 was pretty natural looking to me as when I trade queens and get the opponent to lose castling rights my next aim is to get a rook onto the same file. I didn’t see the idea he explained but I would have played that move.
It was a mistake. But I think Aman saw the threat of black doubling rooks on the E file and so protected the e3 pawn. He wasn't looking to win material and attack because he knew he was playing against a cheater and couldn't win that way.
why is be6 is a sus move? attacks a pawn, very easy to see castles if rxb7? you wouldn't want to play bg4 because after some h3 you will eventually have to play be6 as the only move to not block the d file and castling with check is always an idea to gain tempo. bishop c5 also i do not understand why thats seen as a sus move, develops a piece with tempo, especially as the opponent is 2400 these are not particularly sus moves lol
Be6 is sus, because you first have to see e4 pawn sac for the whole idea to even work. Also, since his opponent already had to see Be6 beforehand, why did he take so long on the move?
That exchange at 8:30 was a crazy tactic to recognise given the timer, I'm not qualified to call out a cheater. But being hit with that as a GM must be weird.
In the end one of the two cheaters won, one of them using a chess engine and the other being a grandmaster and pretending to have much less ELO than his real ELO. Really entertaining.
I never considered that, but thats a good point. I dont think he's doing a series or anything, but it does feel off for a 2800 in Blitz to be playing a 2400
I mean Be6 was an easy find, but I found it for different reasons; I would just want the outside passed pawn that comes with a pawn trade of h for g.... I guess the e4 sac was the more sus part but still even that isn't so sus on it's own, it only really looked a sure thing when they repeatedly took the same amount of time on every move lol
I like watching GM's v cheaters because its like watching GM speed runs against normal players. They don't know what's hit them. Stick to playing players you're own elo isn't of bullying lower level players its not informative its soul destroying
I always picture the person frantically entering the moves into the engine breathing through their mouth while their clock ticks down. And then when Aman just flags them they sit back in their chair -"damn"- and take another bite of microwave mac and cheese.
great
great now i want mac and cheese
however, i will play terrible moves, all on my own accord, lose, go damn, and then eat my mac and cheese.
@@RainbowTeddybear this is at least respectable
I eat microwaved Mac and cheese… stray bullets! This is my sign to learn to cook
Not really, cheater is just watching the game and computer does moves for him. Maybe the cheater wasnt even watching what is happening. Just came back and saw he lost. Aman is a legend 😂
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Opponent somehow crafted an endgame where aman had three isolated pawns with light square promotion squares while they had a light square bishop and all connected pawns
And still couldn't win
@@fudgyboo yeah clearly doesn't know how to play chess and endgame.
@@R1ester always interesting to watch cheaters in the endgame. Any human would force trades to make the conversion easier. But the computer, wanting to maintain the highest possible evaluation, often ignores these moves in favor of the more surgical approach
Also a normal human winning and up on the clock. 2min to 30 sec will just do stalling moves to drain the clock, Aman knew what he was up against
I just love how it is always immediately obvious to GM's how "clinical" the computer moves are, and that instead of giving up, they sit there and try their damndest to beat stockfish
Stockfish used by a bad player* in the hands of a good player, stockfish moves can be almost as undetectable as anal beads if we're talking about only one game (trends can still be observed on the long run though
@@FallaciousRamblings Whether it's anal beeds or anything else, the moves are the same therefore just as detectable.
@@thememaster7 I guess the fact that your so naive about cheating is a good thing lol. The moves used by a good player are not the same as an obvious cheat. An engine gives many winning lines. A good chess player knows which ones they can use to win without making it seem bot like.
@@NowhereMan7 Also timing and premoves are considered by cheat detection software
Hambleton did damn well to last as long as he did against this engine, usually they can shred even grand masters in under 30 moves but he really dug deep defensively and kept things from falling apart for just long enough for the scrub to have to play his own moves
as a Venezuelan, we do NOT claim him.
as a non venezuelan i didnt know hes venezuelan
@JCvP2 its pretty hard to see
@@Qsen123 get your eyes checked
@@Qsen123 10:47 pretty big flag
@@LK25278 good spot
“Get the beads out” 😂😂😂
Aman is amazing. That was a seriously awesome hold on for the time win against a cheater....bravo !
So, kids, that was the famous game between "that cheater dude" and GM Aman Ambleton. 2 great players that we will always rememeber!
Yeah, 5 min game vs engine.. but i was watching and thinking like "no way Aman wins that with 15 seconds vs more than a minute from THAT.." lol
I love your videos guys, keep it up!)
Yeah, her computer couldn't handle the speed of the moves and calculate fast her pc is def slow
"Her" because of the user pic
If you beat a cheater you should get double elo
then people would intentionally get their friends to cheat on them and then lose at the very end, to gain rating points twice as fast
@@Add9Sus4 And then lose all those points when they play real opponents?
@@leodf1 Lose 👍
Yeah i want more than 20 elo for beating Stockfish 15
@@Add9Sus4 That would make only sense to just boost your confidence by numbers for a short sec.
Imagine having an overinflated Elo just to get absolutely humiliated and obliterated by a player seemingly on your level but actually being a few tiers above you.
Well, no thanks... i rather loose a close battle against someone on my tier than having a higher elo and no chance in competing at all knowing that every game i will play without assistence will be a guranteed "L" for me.
That king move at 3:16 is hilarious
for real... any idea what the plan might be for that? Bishop parking spot? Im new to chess, but I know that a move like that is bizarre
@@dpgsince85 actually the idea is very obvious. Just prophylaxis against bishop h3 check. The bizarreness of the move is that no human will consider this prophylaxis any useful at that position, because there is no obvious threat. But computers see more
@Rakhat The Nut I completely missed that potential Check disease
I gotcha!
It is not completely ridiculous-- black wants to play Ng4 to threaten e3 but then white has Bh3 pinning the knight. So move the king out of the way first. Still a very strong move though
@@rakhatthenut3815 I think the idea is to avoid Bh3 pin after Ng4
Tempo speaks for itself
can't even flag the people who start playing really well
That long castle check picking up the rook idea was beautiful. It's a shame no human came up with it.
That tactic is literally in an Eric Rosen video. So is he not human?
lol that's not the part that is unhuman... the part that is unhuman is that how consistently strong she was apparently playing throughout the whole game, constantly pressuring a GM Aman with no hope at all, and giving him a terrible endgame... insane
@@Ken-gs6ie@Ken-gs6ie That is not what he is saying, he literally said "no human came up with it." He is clearly referring to this video, where there was clearly not a human who came up with that move. Many moves preceding be6 were highly sus, as was the time usage.
And the computer must have seen it before the e4 sack + queen trade, otherwise black's losing a pawn for minimal comp. That's what makes it especially dirty, since a 2000+ on a 5min game could luck out and see a nice tactic like that, but having the foresight to set it up and utilize it is almost superhuman
You could calibrate a clock with those move intervals.
Felt that as well. Very odd.
I LOVE watching you and Eric beat cheaters! I despise cheaters. They are the scum of the earth.
i cheat and take offense to that.
I love how there's a new term for cheating "the beads"
Get the beads out 💀
I read this right when he said it 💀
Impressive that they can tell a cheater so early on based on moves I just see as noncommittal….
e4 followed by Be6 are not known theory and required extremely deep tactical calculations to work, something that a random online player is not going to be able to calculate in 6 seconds of thought
The final outcome is satisfying.
cheaters losing will never not be satisfying 😂
Love these videos Aman, you sound as excited and in awe of some of the tactics, ideas and intermezzos in this game as we are when we watch you pull off unreal tactics with ease. Especially at 8:28.
Shame it's you playing stock fish, but hey, if it helps you fall in love with chess again and gives you fresh ideas for future games, then it's all good
As a Cincinnati local is super cool to see Aman repping the Burrow jersey in the background
Whats so funny about this is that even I could've defeated Aman in that endgame with him having 10 seconds left, but the guy is appearantly so bad he needed help even for that endgame loool! I would've just flagged Aman by making bad moves quickly and giving him uncomfortable checks even if I couldnt
If you have enough skill to win this endgame chances are you have enough self respect in your game not to cheat to get to it
Incredible play, especially being frustrated knowing you are playing a computer. Aman is a badass
Their cheat detection system needs an upgrade. No one cheating should be allowed to build up a rating of 2300+. That's unacceptable.
Might have done it bc it was against gm you never know
Love when u guys upload these dirty cheaters and expose them!!
How did Aman figured it out so quickly? Do GMs have special spidey sense?
That sterkustrakur looks like a cheater. Rating is 2256 and he is playing like a GM. Suspicious!
Pls do a short engine reviewing this game with the cheater lady
Was very likely not a lady
@@AJMC82 it was indeed not a lady, since a lady is a respectable person
So guy plays 4 secs/move the entire game then starts premoving at the 6 second mark. You would think if he was oiling he would have better time management skillz. Also vary your move times bud. Don't make it so obvious.
The cheater never premoved.
buddy is just really strong ong frfr no cap
she took a course once i'm sure of it
Aman beat Stockfish. He should be the world champ. 😅
god i love when you guys find cheaters
insane... 7 seconds vs a minute with a horrible position and no increment... opponent is utter trash... all they had to do was more premoves or make random moves since aman was premoving, but of course one can't refer to stockfish that fast...
Time intervals on cheaters moves are more accurate than on my metronome.
I am so confused about 9:29. Black is in check, yet it's white's move? Is this something to do with premove shenanigans that makes it not as it seems?
His reaction to Be6 was gold
ChessBrah is angler, angler is Someone skilled at fishing hahaha
At least you can flag the computer.. if you manage to survive for long enough. Because computer wont do any premoves... for now 😂
It takes a special kind of loser to cheat in online chess. What are they after? Fake respect? I mean what does that actually accomplish? This guy didn’t even try to hide it.
I agree. What a pathetic sad kind of existence. I truly pity anyone who has to stoop to that level to glean any kind of meaningful emotion from their sad existence all the while trying to disguise it to themselves as "me a troll" or something. Oooof.
Some weirdos that like making other people angry, or just curious to see how long they can go without ban, or they're addicted to seeing an elo number go up even though it means jack shit
get the beads out 😂😂
well done big lad
Bishop E6 was pretty natural looking to me as when I trade queens and get the opponent to lose castling rights my next aim is to get a rook onto the same file.
I didn’t see the idea he explained but I would have played that move.
Get ‘em outta here!
Chess Cheaters are the glue that is holding our society together, the true heroes
At 5:20 why not play knight to f5?
It was a mistake. But I think Aman saw the threat of black doubling rooks on the E file and so protected the e3 pawn. He wasn't looking to win material and attack because he knew he was playing against a cheater and couldn't win that way.
Fun fact: when a GM is completely (not just Magnus level of destruction but like a 2000 against a 400) destroyed by anyone, it's a cheater.
Playlist ?
fishoil is too strong
why is be6 is a sus move? attacks a pawn, very easy to see castles if rxb7? you wouldn't want to play bg4 because after some h3 you will eventually have to play be6 as the only move to not block the d file and castling with check is always an idea to gain tempo. bishop c5 also i do not understand why thats seen as a sus move, develops a piece with tempo, especially as the opponent is 2400 these are not particularly sus moves lol
Chill out bro it's not that complicated
@@KF-gd5zt He's completely chill. Just asking a question and I agree.
It's not a one move thing, the preparation of such a move is what makes it sus.
Be6 showed him opp was incredible. The whole game incl lack of speed at the end, deeply suggest sus. Proven by ban.
Be6 is sus, because you first have to see e4 pawn sac for the whole idea to even work. Also, since his opponent already had to see Be6 beforehand, why did he take so long on the move?
trouble is anyone unknown who plays a very good move or moves is cheating the end engines have killed online chess that way
get him outta here
If you move in 2 seconds and fish moves in 5-7 , well never mind. 5 min is too long to survive the 🐠 bites.
What is the song at 9:30?
nasty nasty
Well done.
That exchange at 8:30 was a crazy tactic to recognise given the timer, I'm not qualified to call out a cheater. But being hit with that as a GM must be weird.
Yes. It's striking when a computer just plays something and you realise it's hopeless.
@@peterhardie4151 Or not realise at all until aftergame analysis.
What is the playlist in 9:50?
Anyone?
Oliver Michael - Need You (Instrumental Version) ?
Indonesia.. when I find my opponent is from indonesia.. I KNOW THEY CHEAT
They were from venezuela lol
Dude so happy to see Human victory over AI🙂🙏🏼
Justice and freedom for Pooja and for MV_Legacy! They are not cheating, but just gud at chess!
You love to see it
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special souse.. ))
VENEZUELA MENTIONED
Saggend
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In the end one of the two cheaters won, one of them using a chess engine and the other being a grandmaster and pretending to have much less ELO than his real ELO. Really entertaining.
Smurfing ≠ cheating
@@Zeldasouls If you say so...
I never considered that, but thats a good point. I dont think he's doing a series or anything, but it does feel off for a 2800 in Blitz to be playing a 2400
@@LARAZAOLVIDADA all the rating gained by aman on this account will be given back to all the players who lost to aman, after he stops the speedrun
@@Zeldasouls It is cheating tbf.
I mean Be6 was an easy find, but I found it for different reasons; I would just want the outside passed pawn that comes with a pawn trade of h for g.... I guess the e4 sac was the more sus part but still even that isn't so sus on it's own, it only really looked a sure thing when they repeatedly took the same amount of time on every move lol
Guys, you create quality content, no need for clickbait titles.
First!
!plebs
@@theiceburger why the plebs gotta be so weird!
I like watching GM's v cheaters because its like watching GM speed runs against normal players. They don't know what's hit them. Stick to playing players you're own elo isn't of bullying lower level players its not informative its soul destroying
It's literally informative. Losing one game and getting your elo back is not soul destroying
farming cheaters for content