The ultimate OFFLANE guide (Position 3) | Dota 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:27 - Learning mindset
7:36 - Offlane role description
10:13 - Laning knowledge
20:48 - General game knowledge
34:38 - Out of game knowledge
40:14 - Ending
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"If they dont do it, do it yourself, sentry are just 50g" and "if you see that theirs position 5 tries to disrupt your position 4 pools YOU CAN HELP THEM!" From a support player i can tell theses 2 lines are the most important thing i would like that my pos 3 KNOW.
Lots of respect to you, my guy. Supports are the life blood of dota matches. Thanks a lot for your service my man!
the thing that gets me, if you know they have vision and you buy a sentry you make money from it I always buy sentrys in the carry role its easy free gold
Thanks for the guide. Offlane guides are very scarce, and I happen to stumble upon yours. I hope this guide helps me well as I am maining pos 3.
My dude, pos3 is the best pos. I wish you to firstly dominate their pos1 and then farm up and dominate the whole game
Great video! Its quite surprising how little information there is for dota guides and education, I'm glad I found your channel
I think there are lots of information, but not on the offlane role :) If you seek information, checkout BSJ, Pain Dota, ZQuixotix and GameLeap
Everyone knows the intro: 'Hey whatsup guys, it's your boi, Speed here....."
Thankful for TH-cam for sending me here. One of the best offlane videos (and general Dota help) I’ve seen. I really like your outlook on the game, and while I try to keep this in mind during games, I often find myself easily tilted and losing the mental game. Any general tips to not get too worked up by things in game? I find it very hard coming back from a bad mental spot because a few small details or players got to me (even if I drew lane or am not in the worst spot NW wise). Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your words, man! Hope this video will help you reach new heights!
About the mental strength. Athletes in common sports like swimming or boxing try to get strong not only physically but emotionally too. It's very important and without mental strength you'll be losing games that you should've won. You need to train this mental muscle. How to do that - I don't know. Personally I'm a very chill person and I always try not to be rushed, and to look at things not from my own tunnel-vision eyes, but from the above perspective. If you play a lot - I suggest to play less. Just try to look at the situations that tilt you from the outside perspective and be smarter.
But yeah, I'm not an expert in this topic, I just have it in me naturally. Maybe try to search some youtube videos?
thank you man.! watch every minute of it. can personally relate to some of your points here (but don't actually practice it ) . after houndreds or even thousand videos i watch about dota. the knowledge you share on it are massive!. thanks a lot man! more power to you
Thx a lot for the feedback! Yeah, I've tried to create a guide that I wanted to see when I was climbing
This is so good bro! Glad youtube algorithm led me to this! I'm mostly a safe laner but I still watched to know how a good offlaner thinks. So I can in turn find a way to counter. Tysm bro!
Haha, that's how I got good at offlane. I've played lots of pos1, that's why I know how to make pos1's game miserable
Great guide man, thank you
Offlaner here too. Much appreciated. Balanced outlook, with a "back to basics" feel. Thank you for the tips, my G. 💯
Heyo, brother. I wish you a great pos1 stomping this week
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld Hey man, appreciate it. I wanted to note, that people don't understand the power of hero-spamming, even for playing roles that aren't supposed to: you get to learn the hero from every aspect of it.
The point you made about not following guides, and creating yours (after some experience, of course, with the hero), is big: it means that you know the strengths and weaknesses of him, and you can ADAPT your playstyle, accordingly.
Also, the other point about limiting your choices to 4 heroes: BIG. I tried it today, and I can't tell you how it forces you to FOCUS, and think: which heroes do I like most, and MASTER, in order to DOMINATE?
Seriously, it's no coincidence why you got to Immo rank. Thanks!
Should I post any questions here, or elsewhere?
@@jasoncassios7114 , I'm a self proclaimed god gamer after all. I know how to win in video games, haha :D I'm glad that this guide is helpful to you, my dude!
I'd not recommend to spam core heroes when playing support roles for example, because you can ruin games for others, it's not healthy for the community. You should have a separate hero pool for other heroes ideally. But yeah, you can play offlane heroes in mid and safelane, that's for sure and it might help you to really understand the hero. Personally I can say that I understand a hero after 2-3 weeks of spamming it btw.
Every point I've included is important, and you can't reach immortal without perfecting every single point I've made.
You can add comments here, and i'll reply, sure. But if i'll miss it for some reason, you can message me on reddit www.reddit.com/user/nshkaruba/
Love this guide! The out of game knowledge is I think the most important aspect of Dota 2!
True. Imo mentality might be more important though :)
10:43 I think here you could aggro your creeps up when your ranged is 50% hp, secure the enemy ranged with your Q and then because your ranged is in deny range you can contest the PL for it, I think what you did is good when you are 1v2 and their 5 could punish you for going for the range. I really liked your guide by the way, very detailed.
Yeah, maybe. There's much to be learned in the creep equilibrium. I'm doing it pretty well, I'd say, but not perfect! To me deny their ranged creep is more important than killing my own, because it's reliable
Thank you for making this video bro. Not too many offlane in-depth guides
Yeah, when I was learning, I really wanted a guide like this
Your English and teaching is really good. Subscribed
Zquixzotic in the detail knowledge icon ! Well deserved.
Yeah, this guy is a legend!
Thank you for making this in-depth video! Been loking for a guide like this for a while
You are welcome!
just started playing dota and thought i wanted to learn offlane, this has to be the best guide on yt + video came out at the perfect time!
Glad to hear it! You can do it, man!
Just commenting to say this is a great guide and I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into making this. I'm currently playing offlane at Archon 4 and my goal for this year is to reach Legend. This will be a big help!
My guy, you got this. Just focus on one aspect of my guide at a time, don't blame nobody but yourself, and you'll do it. Also watch your and pro replays, very important
Bro can you please make more videos wtf is this content, extremely good out of nowhere for me
Great video.. I subbed, can't wait for more guides. Best of luck on your grind!
Haha, my grind is complete. I don't see a point in grinding for bigger numbers if I've already reached the best medal.
But yeah, we'll see how it goes, I'll consider creating more videos. Glad that you've enjoyed!
New sub, Thanks for the knowledge, greetings from Ecuador
Haha, nice! Greetings from Serbia, my friend!
lets go! been on a losing streak. i need this. saw this on reddit!
Lose streaks are great, they are a sign that you might've hit a wall, and that you need to find out your mistakes to improve! You can't continue playing like you are playing now and get more mmr, you need to fix something
Love this guide. I have 350 hrs in dota2 and started with Nemestice and Aghanim's labyrinth mode. I main Primal, Tide, Tiny offlane, Zeus mid. I got Crusader 5 2210 MMR this week after rank uncertainty. By now, I can do combos well, LH okay (I'm a LoL player) and execute teamfights, but have been lacking in timing behind map movements, smokes, pulling strategy and ingame roles. This guide is exactly what I need to crack Archon and press on. I will live to make pos1 regret queueing. Thank you
P.S. the best lesson from the video was your emphasis on lane vs. jungle. I tend to go jungle too fast and get underleveled even though it feels like I'm farming (for example @ 10 min.)
Yoo, I'm very glad it helped you, my fellow pos3 main. Love the attitude towards their pos1!
Good luck climbing!
Your hero pool is not very meta, and primal is very hard to play properly. So if you'll into some mmr climbing problems, I suggest you to pick more meta heroes
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld Thank you!
I am quite OK mechanically with Primal but point taken, I'm working on being comfortable with Slardar and Magnus. I think those are more meta. Hopefully it helps 👍🏻
Great thing about this guide is that it helps a POS 1 player like myself understand how to lane against offlaner too
Haha, we're being invaded boys. 5 for the effort btw. There are lots or role unspecific knowledge, so yeah, it should help you
nice content bro
Great vid! Do you do replay analysis?
Hello, no, unfortunatelly
Great video! time to become an offlaner
Much better than pos1, coz you are enabled since minute 5, not minute 30. And better than pos2, because this position is too sweaty
Deserve new subs
Great content and I wish you a very good luck. You have a discord server or groups where I can follow and see clarifications when I am stuck?
Nope, nothing. But you can message me on reddit /u/nshkaruba
How to know what to pick as an offlane in lower ranks? Should i focus on countering enemy support or adjust on what my support picks? Thanks
In high mmr games, you can just provide control and tankiness, and your team will capitalize on that. But in low mmr they will not. So you should pick heroes that can deal lots of damage and carry games solo.
I suggest to pick Slardar, Viper, Alchemist, Bristleback, Legion Commander, Wraith King, Axe in no particular order. BB is very strong btw
Thank you to your video and knowledge, as a pos 3 player.
Can u pls give us acess to your "presentation" notes? would be very helpfull
Thx for the kind words, sir!
It's very late right now, I'll try to do it tomorrow. Please give me your email, I can share it by it
топовый гайд, все по полочкам
харош никитос
а теперь давай гайд на классы в nwn2
Excellent video. I will say there is one note to clarify. There is definitely hidden pools and factors to the matchmaking. The game does in fact try to force a 50/50 win rate as much as it can. It does this through machine learning and it's trueskill balance algorithm. To deny it's existence is disingenuous. I do believe it can obviously be overcome, and there may be merit in best not thinking about it, but it does exist I assure you.
I climbed pretty fast (4 months from Archon to Immortal), and the game didn't try to stop me. It's just way to chaotic and there's a lot to be learned, so my take on it is that sometimes we try to justify ourselves with really anything, it's like a defensive human mechanism.
It's much easier to forget about it entirely and try to be better every game you play.
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld you climbed in 4 months from raw archon to immortal? Was this solo queue or did you duo with a carry?
Had you ever been higher than Archon before in your life?
Something doesn't add up here
@@richmusick4881 I've been a divine 1 mid laner, yeah. But it doesn't matter. Dedicated people climb up from anywhere. If you can't climb, it's a skill issue. Go learn more about the game, there are lots of mistakes in your replays if you see close enough
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld yeah you've been divine before. I knew there was more to this story. No one climbs raw from archon to immortal in 4 months on their own with just a mindset change. You're sounding kind if like a fraud there lil boy. Disingenuous at best. Anyway, good job "climbing" from archon to immortal with your previous mastered mechanics and game knowledge from divine!
@@richmusick4881 :(
200 hours gameplay archon II hopefully I go legend next!!!
Could you please write the names of recommended channels? Can't understend)
youtube.com/@zquixotix, docwell, gameleap
Can you do a heroes guide for your main offlane heroes, preferably first hero is centaur or axe
Sorry, man, I'm not planning on that. I think I've used all of my powers in making this guide, so I just want to chill for like a week or two, then we'll see
You can watch my axe or centaur gameplay, they are on my channel
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld My bad, I didn't check your channel.🤦
But I'll be waiting for your next guide, my problems right now are positioning, heroes power spikes, and knowing what's right thing to do if you already have this item, at this time, how to counter, etc.
-for offlane heroes
My offlaner always pick crystal maiden or silencer. I hope they learn from this.. 😢 I don't need good player, I need someone who pick their own role 😢
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What to do if my pos 4 always stands behind meand let enemy pos 5 hit me freely and also let enemy pull every single time ?
Then you lose the lane and try to recover. You still have your pos1 and pos2 who can carry if you help them well enough. These games happen sometimes.
Personally I hate playing with melee pos4. We usually lose the lane, but i've won a lot of games by recovering!
Carry next pls❤❤❤❤
I don't play pos1 as an immortal, so can't create a guide. PainDota has some amazing pos1 and pos2 guides though, you should check it out
"It took me 500 games in 4 months to climb from Archon 4 to Immortal, so that's a HUGE amount of time!" You think that's a huge amount of time!? 😭(Besides, overall under 2% of players are Immortals so even getting there is a huge accomplishment in Dota!). BTW I liked your video and share many of the thoughts as an offlaner myself!
Yes, a fellow offlaner here! Good luck with your pos1 stomping, my dude!
It's a lot of time though!
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld Thanks! I also enjoy playing position 4 among all the other roles as well. Playing different roles helps to form a better picture of the game, and to understand what roles might want/need in different stages of the game!
No one is talking about sandking but in just 2 months i upped from 1500mmr to 3700mmr just spamming this hero
He's very good in low mmr imo, but he gets countered hard on high mmr, he needs too much farm and can be countered by wards and good positioning. Also it's hard to stomp your lane as sand king. Not my playstyle personally!
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorld in high mmr he still has a high winrate
@@milan1_092 48% in divine+ bracket, idk man
why is there no 480p or 720p video qualities in your video??
There are, try to refresh a page or something :D
@@AurelianoShowsTheWorldi just recently found your channel and i have tried everything since yesterday to watch your videos but i can only see 3 video format in all your videos 144p/360p/1440p other formats arent available i swear... other channels are fine but all videos in your channel have this issue, if you can sort with youtube plz do, i want to watch your video
@@casualgambit674, try to watch from other device - like a tv or phone, or try a different browser from your computer. IDK man, this is werid
Хорошее видео. Спасибо тебе
Постарайся не делать такую интонацию, когда читаешь, будто рассказываешь сказку 😊
22:33
Выдавать лютую базу и говорить, что этого хватит для подъема титана - обман, чтобы набрать классы.
imagine these just for offlaning, thats why DOTA still better. DOTA is not for the weak minds. thats why i stop playing 😂😂😂😂
Bro, your speech is a little monotonous. Sometimes, it's hard to focus. No hate, only suggestion
It's okay, thx for the suggestion!
FANTASTIC guide. I am ARCHON PLAYER but I start TH-cam SERIES soon "TEH CLIMB" u halp me out THANK
Good luck, my guy!
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