Masters Of Comic Book Art - Eisner, Kirby, Ditko, Adams, Wrightson, Miller - 1987
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- Will Eisner 4:06 | Harvey Kurtzman 8:46 | Jack Kirby 14:13 | Steve Ditko 19:31 | Neal Adams 26:29
Berni Wrightson 31:53 | Moebius 37:27 |Frank Miller 42:36 | Dave Sim 48:39 | Art Spiegelman 53:44
Meet the heroes behind the superheroes as award-winning(sic) author Harlan Ellison introduces ten of the world's greatest comic book artists.
Exclusive interviews and samples of their sensational art reveal the philosophy and creative process behind their finest characters, stories and series.
Trace the evolution of comics - from the 'Golden Age' beginning in the '30s to today's best selling graphic novels - with The Masters Of Comic Book Art, featuring:
Will Eisner (The Spirit, A Contract With God)
Harvey Kurtzman (Mad, Little Annie Fanny)
Jack Kirby (The Silver Surfer, The New Gods)
Steve Ditko (Spider-Man, Mr A)
Neal Adams (The Batman, Green Lantern/Green Arrow)
Berni Wrightson (Swamp Thing, Frankenstein)
Moebius (Arzak, Heavy Metal)
Frank Miller (Ronin, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns)
Dave Sim (Cerebus The Aardvark)
Art Spiegelman (Maus, RAW Magazine)
"The questions have been terrific" - Jack Kirby. That's awesome
I didn’t like Kirby as a kid, I wasn’t mature enough to recognize his genius but boy I do now. Beautiful masterpieces.. every page.
J O yea Buscema is in my top 3 for sure, another genius that died at the board. Kirby’s composition is so good that if you blew it up like a Pollock and put it in a museum or modern home it would look awesome.. abstract impressionistic beauty.
John Byrne was this 12 year olds hero in the late 70s and early eighties.
yup - me too
I grew up with Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee, later Mark Bagley, I thought his stuff was primitive and bad. Until I just started reading them, they were just super easy to read and action was second to none. He gets you hook line and sinker all of a sudden. His style is so easy to digest once you get it. When you start drawing you pick up even more stuff, like his technology looked like mosaics and futuristic at the same time. I had an engineer friend look at his tech and he says "that just look like it works even if he made everything up"
@Tak Toja lmao you're literally saying, "hey your american comics are cool, but it will never reach the level of the Frenchies"...
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Amazing to see and hear these artists in their prime. Some are no longer with us, so it's nice to have this record.
Watched again, 5 yrs later and this has got to be the best collection of comic artists ever. Only one missing from my list is Frazetta
A true great documentary. Great interviews and great hosting by Harlan Ellison. Giving a good insight what drives these comic artists.
"Get back to me in about 30 years." -Frank Miller.
Frank, that is next year. Just FYI.
R.I.P. Berni Wrightson. :-(
For me he will always be THE Swamp Thing artist,
The only other artist who came close to him when it came to ST was Steve Bissette.
Oh yes. Tom Yeates was pretty good too.
Swamp Thing is the comic book that got me into comics. My favorite comic book character first appeared in Swamp Thing comics.
John Constantine written by Alan Moore & drawn by Stephen Bissette, & John Tolteben with editor Karen Berger first appeared in Saga Of The Swamp Thing#37, 1985. The year before I was born. John Constantine aka the Hellblazer is my favorite comic book character of all time. I have every volume of his groundbreaking run in DC's mature imprint Vertigo. I have all 26 volumes of John Constantine Hellblazer. It's my favorite comic book series of all time. My second favorite character in comics is Swamp Thing written by Len Wein & drawn by Bernie Wrightson with editor Joe Orlando in House Of Secrets #92, 1971. I also have every Swamp Thing comic since his first appearance. I have every volume of this character since his inception.
I wore out my VHS copy of this years ago...still one of if not the best Comic Interview/Docs ever put out.
Its cool to see the founding fathers. I wish I could draw this well.
You can if you try.
These artists are absolute geniuses in their own right! Not to mention artistic visionaries!
It just goes to show...don't let anyone steer you wrong about comics,it is indeed a HIGH ART! And,it should be regarded as such...like a work from Picasso,Matisse,or Cezanne!
It all has something important to say about the human condition!
Bryan Briggs yes. This was done before comics took over the mainstream. What is found everywhere now was once considered obscure or inaccessible content for a small audience.
Not really they are less accesible today than they were before.
Piricsi Remus Not sure I'd agree with you there, I mean there are comics for men, women, children, and readers of all types far more than there were back in 1987 when this movie first came out plus how much things are being reprinted non stop by companies such as IDW, Marvel Masterworks, DC reprints ranging from Golden Age to Silver Age to Bronze Age, Fantagraphics reprinting the Carl Barks Donald Duck/Uncle Scrooge Library, Humanoids with their Moebius reprints
I mean look at the inventory of places like Forbidden Planet, Austin Books, and online retailing such as
Mile High and other places.
IMHO there's way more out there than there's been in a long time.
Yes but where that s the key thing they are almost absolutely segregated into comic book shops or certain bookstores except for a couple european countries ,when i was a little kid you could get them at almost any newspaper stand for chumpchange they were right in your face so it was way more accessible than today that was my point.
Well yes that's true, Although you can still get them that way in some European countries and Japan.
7Eleven spinner racks and newsstands are pretty much no longer an option for comics, Although you can find some Double issue Archie digests and Sonic the Hedgehog digests at some grocery stores,
The last time I remember groceries carrying comic books across the board was back in the early to mid 1990's,
The one I used to work at would have some DC and Marvel and some early Image titles and also interestingly enough some EC Comics Horror reprints from the 1950's which I always thought was something of an irony being that they were legislated out of existence back in the 1950's to prevent them from being sold in groceries and newsstands in the first place.
I remember our grocery magazine distributer went out of his way to try and hide the EC reprints putting them at the very back of the comic book selection we had, and I'd always go out of my way to put them at the very front of it. :-) LOL
While going through a just-purchased back issue of Kitchen Sink's THE SPIRIT, I came across an ad to purchase this on video cassette. In the time it takes to read the ad I got on here full of hope...THANK YOU for posting this.
This is great!! Exposing me to some amazing artists I wasn't aware of and I really enjoy hearing Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko speak!
@John Henry: How do you know that was Steve Ditko's voice? He doesn't appear, physically, in this film at all; at least in the video. I have heard that he is a very secretive guy who rarely, if ever, does interviews &, basically, just doesn't trust people.
While it is possible that the words spoken, during his segment of this film, are his own words, written by him, it definitely seems possible, even likely, that a voice actor was used to represent him/his voice, due to his inability and/or unwillingness to participate on camera.
@@MorpheusOne True. Who knows. :)
@@MorpheusOne I’ve trawled the internet and can only find three photos of Ditko and one is from his high school yearbook. I think you’re right.
I found the most modesty from the MASTER MOEBIUS, oh why is the Universe so cruel that I cannot meet the man, his work is a blessing to humanity and sequential art.
Quick observation that Neil Adams credits Batman being created by Bob Kane, Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson. Say what you'd like about Neil, but he is great at what he does and he's brutally honest. This whole doc is fantastic. Thanks for the upload!
Neal Adams always fought for creators in the comic book industry, he tried to unionize comic artists in the 1970's
It's a shame that this was made after Wally Wood died. He is easily one of the best, if not the best artist, the comic book medium gave us and should be recognized as such.
r.i.p. jack Kirby
"Depending on how well you speak French" then Moebius says his own name like everyone else in the world lmao
Eisner was my cartooning teacher, he never once stopped admiring himself in class.
Great post, Chad. I bought this VHS back in the day and haven't seen it for many years, having ditched the cassette at some point. So many of my heroes.....excellent stuff!!
Thanks for this. I stumbled onto it and am just in awe at these giants. Moebius and Miller in particular are heroes of mine
i always look at Eisner's work for panel break-downs and storyboarding. truly a great name in comicdom!
Kurtzman's breakdowns are pretty legendary, too. Crystal clear storytelling.
i thinjk so too. i was only exposed to his and Eisner's work in the 90's.their comics weren't available here in South Africa until then.
Saaid R Yeah me too, only because my comic reading started to branch out around then, I was really just into superhero stuff like the Grant/Breyfogle Detective Comics run and Steve Rude/Mike Baron's Nexus stuff. I have really catholic taste in comics, now, I don't read much cape stuff anymore at all, though.
Have you heard of Joe Daly? He has a few books out from Fantagraphics, he's the only South African cartoonist I really know of, I have all of his stuff apart from his latest comic (which was a webcomic first).
Meh, Eisner wasn't fit to sharpen Moebiuses pencils
We live in very exciting times for comics as the medium is getting the respect and recognition it deserves. The quality of work possible today is, without a doubt, exceptional. We still have a long way to go for comics and graphic novels to be embraced in the U.S. as they are in other parts of the world, notably France and Japan. This documentary is a wonderful testament to forward-thinking and true art appreciation.
I have seen parts of this, but never the whole thing in one video. Can't wait to watch this. sitting down to do so now. thank you very much for posting this man.
Thanks for watching, I forgot to check messages on here, sorry!
I love this so much. Thank you so much for uploading it!
When you read that Jack Kirby did no layouts or draft scripts before creating each comic you realize he was a genius. When you hear what he thought comics could be, one day , you realize he was prophetic. Still the greatest American comic book artist ever.
Holy fuck this is a valuable piece of archive work. Thank you for putting this up I didn't even know it existed!
If you go to about the 20th minute into this video, you actually hear Steve Ditko’s voice as he narrates his thoughts on the human persona, right vs wrong, hero vs villain & many other philosophical ideas Ditko lived by. Ditko was an extreme recluse! Very few pictures of him exist. He never went to any comic shows, EVER! Her wanted nothing to do with Spider-Man after he left Marvel. He was a forward thinker & would never dwell on the past. Interesting guy!
Spider-Man is literally the opposite of Objectivism lol
This was quite a treat for me having grown up on comics in the 80's. Thank you for sharing.
Damn that intro was AWESOME!!!
This was one of the most educational videos I've ever seen. Thank you so much for the upload.
Jack Kirby - It Is Good to Be The King
This came on my feed and i thought someone was satirizing Harlan Ellison.
Originally had this on VHS and watched it at least 100 times. The insights from everyone is amazing, esp. Ditko and Kirby.
Great documentary!!! Thank you very much for posting!
I just love the different perspectives in comic art!! Its extreme most the time and I love it..
Watching Harlan Ellison reminded me of a true story concerning Harlan and my friend, Skip Olson.
My friend, Skip had muscular dystrophy, but it didn’t stop him from being a science fiction and fantasy illustrator. Until, Skip met Ellison he was unpublished. There were a number of artistic people that Skip admired: Wally Wood, Will Eisner, Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, and Harlan Ellison.
This story takes place during late 60s early 70s. Arizona was one or the only state that hadn’t ratified The Equal Rights Amendment. Harlan was pee-ood.
At this same time Phoenix metropolitan was having a comic book convention and Mr. Ellison was scheduled to appear. Harlan said he wasn’t coming. The organizers of the convention replied you have to you signed a contract. He came.
On a KDKB radio interview Harlan stated that he was here, living in a van; boycotting Arizona by not spending any money here except for water. He then added that was not good for Phoenix, because as a rule he treated his friends to dinners at nice restaurants.
One of the events at the convention was an art display. My friend, Skip displayed a pen drawing of Don Quixote. Harlan fell in love with it and paid (I think) sixty dollars for it.
Later on, my friend had the opportunity to illustrate one of Harlan Ellison’s stories in a pulp magazine titled (again I’m not sure) Amazing Stories. Thanks to Mr. Ellison my friend’s life long goal of being published was realized.
I looked up your friend Skip. Great story! You should do a book or a documentary about him. What happened to all of his art after he passed?
Brilliant! Thanks so much for uploading!
Wow..I have to look for this! It is an absolute must for my research library!
it's great Neal Adams is so young here :)
This is pure gold. Thanks
Comics have been around for centuries, arguably from 12th century woodblocks in Japan to Punch magazine from 1841, the introduction of the printing press in the 15th century. There's plenty of information here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_comics
But what shocked me was that the "comic book" was such a recent invention and that with all the Manga books, the British obsession with comics and the complete obsession of Belgium and France over comics that the "comic book" came from the much younger nation of the United States (not ignoring Hispanic history of the US and the origins of "Native American Indians". Wow! The spread of such a medium through all cultures is amazing and the equally blatant disregard of comic art from those in the arts is amazing. Excepting of course Roy Lichtenstein's art of blown up comic images.
I'm glad I stumbled upon this video. Thanks for uploading.
Watching this, never gets old.
What a great documentary! I am very familiar with all these creators and their work but their insight and approach to the medium makes me admire them even more. My greatest surprise was Bernie Wrightson - not what I pictured at all!
26:29 Rest In Peace, Neal Adams.
1941-2022
The Glasgow Looking Glass, published in 1826, was arguably the first comic magazine. A satirical publication, later known as The Northern Looking Glass, it lampooned the fashions and politics of the times.[6][7][8] It had most of the elements that make up the modern comic, including pictures with captions that display a continuous narrative told often in installments, and the use of speech bubbles, satire and caricature.[9]
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Amazing clip. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you. Got a couple of books/artists I need to check out. :)
Bill Cashion You’ll enjoy the actual stories even more! I’m glad this helped you discover some of the pillars of the format and I’m jealous that you get to read some of this stuff for the first time. I love the days when I find a comic that I missed over the years and read it for the first time. Let me know if you’d like some recommendations.
Cheers :)
This kind of video is a fantastic, modern, historical document (if that's not an oxymoron!). Thank you for producing and sharing.Jack Kirby was talking about the origins of the comic strip. Glasgow, Scotland seems keen to claim to be the ancestral home of the comic! :) The Glasgow Looking Glass: I can let you see grabbed museum shot I took at the Frank Quitely exhibition but didn't include in my video.
Not only is this a great collection of the comic book greats, you also got one of the greats of science fiction Harlan Ellison hosting too.
Awesome Documentary thanks for uploading
This is so precious
Wonderful!
Top notch film! Thank you.
Is that Ditko's voice during the segment? Wow.
Bernie Wrightson and Moebius masterace!!
Two ofmy favourites...in a time when uniqueness was celebrated...
This so strange to watch! Pre- Batman 1989! These legends have no idea what's about to go down and what comics will eventually become.
No good new comics these days?
The two this needed were Gil Kane, who brought dynamic figure art to to comics, and Carmine Infantino, who artistically started the silver age with his clean, modern style.
I agree completely! And even though he didnt create much, I always love listening to romita sr.
??? They should´ve put more european artists in here, we were in the "broze age" of comics back in 50s already... xDxD And comics are not american created, btw. The earliest known comic in history is "The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck" (by Rudolphe Töpffe, Switzerland, 1837). He also created the comic strip format in 1827, but many believe there are more Victorian age comicbooks that haven´t been discovered (yet). I also love Gil Kane, and John Romita Sr., but honestly... Who would you have taken out? xDxD
Didn't create much?
I like Eisners opinion about comics being an inferior term for an art form with a narrative, it is on a par with great literature, he's absolutley right....
Tone Hunter PLEASE! IT'S GROWN CHILDREN STUFF. PERIOD. I love the art... but face it in time NO ONE will remember any of these guys except thier fans. Regular ordinary folks don't even know who they are now. But ALL know Leonardo or Da Vinci. Just sayin.
Samuel Parker Leonardo or Da Vinci... OK.
Samuel Parker "IT'S GROWN CHILDREN'S STUFF."
You mean like Robert Crumb's Zap Comix which covered topics ranging from
The Vietnam War to Civil Rights to sex and drugs?
Sorry, But Art Spiegelman's Maus,
Chris Ware's 'Jimmy Corrigan The Smartest Kid on Earth' very much qualify as literature, plus the fact that Maus won a Pulitzer and Jimmy Corrigan was mentioned by the Guardian and won several awards.
Alan Moore's Watchmen was ranked in Time Magazine as one of the most 100 important novels
of the 20th Century and it won several other awards and Hugo's.
Neil Gaiman has become a well known author with a fair amount of name recognition and his Sandman comic is considered a work of fantasy right up there with J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of The Rings and has been praised by authors ranging from Steven King to Harlan Ellison.
As to how Sequential Art and it's creators are perceived '"in time" remember this is a young medium compared to the works of 'Leonardo or Da Vinci'?!? :-/
But just about EVERYONE knows who Charles Schultz was even regular ordinary folk.
This medium has had a long hard fight to gain even a grudging respect by people and has survived being banned
(Thank you Fredrick Wertham) and burned and bastardized. (Thank you Roy Lichtenstein, TOO MANY people know who he is IMHO, :-P Although he will never have anything close to the impact that a Jack Kirby or Robert Crumb had on the American art scene )
and COMICS have survived it all and are still very much with us in the 21st Century
and I'm interested in it's legacy and it's future more than ever these days.
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@@cha5 too bed most of the artists and comics you mentioned, like Maus, Jimmy Corrigan, Watchmen and Sandman are mediocre and insanely overrated crap (not to mention the unreadable shit like LOTR, it's like you're digging yourself a hole). But on the other hand, so is old Leo da Vinci. Kudos to Crumb though
Marcin B Well when YOU create something on the scale of a Maus or a Jimmy Corrigan or a Watchmen or The Sandman and you produce a work that has won a Hugo or a Pulitzer and has made Time Magazine’s list of 100 best English Novels then get back to me, You’re the only one who’s digging yourself a hole here. Gaiman’s Sandman certainly has had an impact on fantasy, I’d never call Tolkien’s LOTR unreadable, although I’m more into Moorcock and Bradbury and Lovecraft among others. As to Da Vinci he set the standards for anatomy in art as we know it and came up with some of the earliest concepts of a flying machine 400 years before the Wright Brothers,
Crumb would even think of your opinion as somewhat half assed there.
Those guys are amazing 🍀
Ditko makes a lot of sense in principal but I find it hard and impossible being put into practice and real life applications
Will Eisner's work reminds me of opera, highly emotional! And I love the noir feel. I used to draw and paint. But now writing. Don't know if I can draw anymore! But feel tempted to try to create a graphic novel of my novel. Harlan Ellison - Thanks for this video. Lots more for me to see here.
Painting is extremely relaxing for me, windows open, afternoon sun; it is a great way to spend my 2 year olds nap time :)
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Thank you for sharing this Chad!
Amazing
Wow I had this vhs tape way back when. I had forgotten all about it
It was a interesting video. I did find the narrarator a little annoying but it was very interesting topic and i enjoyed Will Eisners section. First time seeing ditch, or even hearing him talk.
i meant DITKO...
The 'narrator' is HARLAN ELLISON. You illiterate fuck. How's about drop the comics for just five seconds and read one of his stories...
Very cool:👊😎👍 voice and face to go w/ names from my youth. Thanks or sharing. Yes comix love💕
'That's right, I like comics, and I know what you're thinking, comics? they're total throw away garbage for babies and simple minds'... I'm glad we seem to be the past the stage of having to pre emptively explain that comics are not total trash before discussing them haha, jokes aside Harlan Ellison is also a cool dude and he pronounced Van gough in a way that sounded vaguely correct.
Good material, man
"I dont know how to say this.. but Im kind of a big deal.. I have many, leather bound books. And my apartment smells of rich mohagony"... lol The host of this video or Ron Burgandy?? lol
Lol too true
True, but he *is* somewhat famous.
haha , you beat me to it. He's smoking a pipe and reclining on a chaise lounge too.
I'm sure he looks at this and has to cringe a bit ; We all have our embarrassing times.
Plus this was from a time where all those kinds of affectations were kind of hallmarks of actually being fancy.
Harlan Ellison: not known for mincing his words!
Watching this is nice as it was 30 years ago. Harlan is now in his eighties and in poor health. He no longer makes any public appearances at all, even on TH-cam. But in his youth he was dynamite.
Kurtzman, God bless 'im.
30:43 Oh my god, that is Some truth there
Harlan Ellison!
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This is a comic book icon of good old day............................
I was one of the lucky few about 20 or so years back, and bought file copies owned by Eisner of his harvey soirit 1 and 2. Lovely books they are. Just wished I had certificutes along with them.
Wow that's awesome, do you have any available to sell?
+Chad K.W.D.L. Say what, She was in charge of selling Eisners comics off, Contact eclipse comics Kat Ynrode. Yeah I spelled her name wrong.After over 20 years, doubt any extras are left.
I've got some original Sunday newspaper Spirits from 1940-1942 and some Police Comics from that era which reprinted Eisner's Spirit stories. not to mention an issue of Feature Funnies with some pre Spirit Eisner art (a character he did called Espionage from 1938) I was able to get Eisner to sign several of them at the San Diego Comic-Con back in the 1990's when he was a regular there. I've still got them all, Wouldn't sell them for anything,
Sorry Chad. ;-)
cha5
I don't blame you, that is history right there! I sure wish I could have went to comic cons back then.
"Sequential art", sounds better than comic book art. I wonder who coined the first phrase "comic book" and why he/she reared to his type of art as comic.
"..that's the result of evolvement. From what I understand the editorial comic was first, then they added a few panels to that and you had a comic strip; and they added a few pages to that and you had a comic book..." - The King
I don't think it's possible to attribute the actual term "comic book" to any one person, it was just the next step of collecting comic strips and selling them unattached from newspapers, which started with Famous Funnies in the early 30s, IIRC.
But it all started with cave paintings, so sequential art has been around for quite some time.
Cerebus the Ardvaark!! I used to love that series!
Harlon (was) is the reason for Terminator!!! :) Nice! (RIP)
T2. Great Movie. Yes I heard the story. Cj
Wow, they have the *great* Harlan Ellison hosting. For those who don't know, Ellison wrote several episodes of the Twilight Zone and was a very prolific short story/sci fi writer. Ellison was famously ripped off his whole life, mostly by James Cameron, especially the Terminator. Check him out.
moebius the true art warrior
legendary
Wow Ditko was DEEP in that Ayn Rand mumbo jumbo
Thanx for video very nice instruction ,jm colector on Stan Lee Vhs old .
Cartoonists Kayfabe brought me here!
Each of these Men had THERE own personal way to talk to You. Met them all the only one was who CHANGED WAS MR.ADAM. Knew him when he was a fanboy.Loved Your Work. THEY WILL BE MISSED. BUT they will live forever in there ARTWORK and AND STORIES.
this is amazing thank you! Is there a DVD I can buy for this? A transcript? A book?
Möbius really resonated with me, but I think Kirby was the guy to listen to, here.
Moebius is the one to read though, time and again. Kirby is the one to brush and forget.
@@marcinb4647 tru dat
God...where is his collection now?
Probably owned by the BBC archive that commissioned this lol.
There were giants in those days.
Great stuff, all masters considering Eisner, Kurtzman and Kirby aren't with us anymore.
And now Ditko...
Step one, get an ashtray with a lit cigarettes , check Step two, take shots, off camera, check
87,97,2007,2017...Frank Miller it's already been 30 Years...
Who is the host? He's apparently one with Kafka & Poe. I'll have to look him up. I've heard of Ronald Reagan though.
Harlan Ellison
@@the9-2-5outlawdoestech9 That's hilarious
Ronald Reagan was a shit writer, even Poe was much better
The minute Harlan Ellison appears you know this is going to be REALLY great.
Ok
@Chad K.W.D.L. FUN FACT: COMICBOOKS ARE NOT AN AMERICAN CREATION, THEY WERE CREATED IN EUROPE. THE FIRST COMIC IN HISTORY: "The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck" (by Rudolphe Töpffe, Switzerland, 1837), WHO ALSO CREATED THE COMIC STRIP IN 1827 (but many suspect there are other Victorian age comics, not yet discovered).
That jacket though.
I find it offensive when people think of comic books as ' a child thing'. I'm a political writer with PhD and I read tons of comic books. And, as a side note, what's happened to the pipe as a symbol of intellectualism? Did we wake in the 90s and realised, holy molly! What a bunch of pretentious B.S. ?
Honestly no one really does anymore
And I’m pretty sure people woke up in the 80s. If anything in the 90s most comics were so shite only kids could enjoy them
HOW the Hell do they leave out STERANKO!!!??????
WALLY FUCKING WOOD!!!!!!!!
@@pretorious700 yes Wood. Steranko was not at all prolific
@@Tabish29 Eat your words, Steranko was hugely influential beyond his comic work.
I would almost say he might not have been available, but then again they got a recluse like Steve Ditko to at least contribute audio, so it's hard to say
HELL LOOK AT ALL THEY MISSED HAL FOSTER, ALEX RAYMOND, LEE FALK WALT KELLY SO MANY ARE MISSED!!!!! !!