Steve Ditko Biographical Interview with Pat & Patrick Ditko by Alex Grand

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  • @FlorescentBrainwave
    @FlorescentBrainwave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    You've just created the best document/ documentary on Steve Ditko, and you put it out for free for all to see and experience? words can't convey how appreciative I am of this video

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thank you!

    • @plusone8015
      @plusone8015 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ComicBookHistoriansit is wonderful ❤

  • @LOSCOMEXTV
    @LOSCOMEXTV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This interview advances Ditko scholarship tremendously! Our most vivid portrait yet of Steve Ditko as a person/family man/prankster. Alex, you did a fantastic job in drawing out some great memories from the family. And seeing those treasures... Ditko's early artwork, his art tools, his video collection... Well, that was a fantastic extra bonus. Thanks to Pat and Patrick for sharing so much of his life.

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Javier thank you!

    • @batfreeze56
      @batfreeze56 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kinda fits, when you consider his characters. Creeper, Spider-Man, speedball, Ted kord. All kinda pranksters

    • @Yanolala
      @Yanolala 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ComicBookHistorians Great interview! What's the book you keep referencing throughout? It sounds like you're saying "Jushonic"?

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Yanolala Robert T. Jeschonek wrote a Ditko bio with the family which I read and hasn’t been released yet.

    • @Yanolala
      @Yanolala 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ComicBookHistorians How exciting! Thanks for the response and I can't wait for when that releases!

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I don't know of anyone else who's delved so deeply into Steve Ditko's personal life, such as it was. It goes to show just how private he really was, even with his family.
    But now I will never unsee Ditko dressed as a baby!

  • @Ramoscomics
    @Ramoscomics 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Fantastic interview, I've met Steve a few times when I worked at Marvel over 20 years ago it is so great to see him through the eyes of family.

  • @amedeomodigliani4389
    @amedeomodigliani4389 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’ve been slowly watching this over the past week or so. I always knew that just because Ditko lived a private life, did not mean that he lived a lonely life. This is such a wealth of information and great pictures and anecdotes. It’s really touching to hear about someone you view as a personal hero from their loved ones. Thank you so much for this 💙

  • @edfurnez6134
    @edfurnez6134 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Incredible! I love the Ditkos! They’re so humble, kind and intelligent. Very grateful for them for opening up, and they have a great rapport with Alex. Such a wonderful experience

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was great to see! This def needs more viewers!

  • @rccomics
    @rccomics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How are not more people talking about this? This is fascinating.

  • @MrUnmutual2014
    @MrUnmutual2014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Been a Ditko fan for decades now and for years bought into the idea that this was a man who was alone in the world. To have seen now his family and seeing these video clips of him at play are wonderful.

  • @RogerFusselman
    @RogerFusselman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The group Steve Ditko gave money to was the Ayn Rand Institute, not the Atlas Society, which is another group. People at ARI would get the contribution from Ditko in check form, which meant they could look at a genuine Ditko signature. They thought it was super cool. My source on this is Yaron Brook, the chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute, either on his TH-cam channel or in personal communication. Ditko himself contributed to an initiative by ARI to promote Ayn Rand's works in Eastern Europe. This was reported in an ARI newsletter in the late 1980s.

  • @rudyagresta
    @rudyagresta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Excellent interview and the best ever insight into a genius. Perhaps Stan had the "idea", but It's clear that Spidey is more Steve's.

    • @floepiejane
      @floepiejane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      We should conceive of it as: created and developed by... which you've described so well.

    • @warlockofwordschannel7901
      @warlockofwordschannel7901 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's certainly true of Dr. Strange, even Stan Lee said as much. Spidey perhaps was more 50/50...

    • @jubilee7019
      @jubilee7019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@warlockofwordschannel7901I always got the feeling that Spider-Man meant more to ditko than he’d ever admit

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Amazing Spider-Man improved after Ditko left and John Romita took it into the stratosphere. That's just the truth.

  • @DocReasonable
    @DocReasonable 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I actually never once thought about Tarzan swinging on vines being the inspiration for Spidey's web-slinging... great call. Fantastic background on the mysterious Steve, and they are really nice guys.

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is incredible! Steve never did any interviews. Finally!!!❤😂😂😂 The Rockstar!!!

  • @spideyandme
    @spideyandme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Such a wonderful interview, done right here where I've lived my whole life! The upcoming book you mention, about Steve Ditko from the family's point of view, is really going to be a treasure! I am so thankful to have gotten to know Pat and Patrick and other Ditko family members over the past 3 years, as we have been doing so much to celebrate Steve here in Johnstown, PA!

  • @mattparker3267
    @mattparker3267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is really terrific. This interview puts many Ditko pieces together. Thanks.

  • @WestCoastDAVEngers
    @WestCoastDAVEngers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Such a great interview you conducted here, it was interesting to hear that he never got on a plane. It's always fascinated me as a native New Yorker that people can live a very reclusive life while some of us are/were the opposites. Both Pat & Patrick really have a fondness for telling these stories and I'm glad they had a chance to. Thanks for giving us a big slice of comic history with this interview alone, and a great channel overall!

  • @edfarajian4664
    @edfarajian4664 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The Ditkos are wonderful! A much more human side of Steve shown here: I’m so very grateful. Documentary level interview as well. Such a wonderful job done by all including Alex who clearly respects the family in a major way.

  • @JerkComic
    @JerkComic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this. I've spent years trying to explain Ditko and get into his head better and this is just a treasure trove of great information.

  • @rocknrollfables
    @rocknrollfables 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Amazing Interview! A must ser to ALL Ditko fans out there. I'm a Ditko fan since 1986.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here! I buy all the PS Artbooks that have his art

  • @nataliegrandauthorofcultgi1231
    @nataliegrandauthorofcultgi1231 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *This is incredible! I like the part (mid way) of Steve’s private cut out if his favorite super hero clips.* 💕

  • @KevinMayle1974
    @KevinMayle1974 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for this awesome interview, Alex. Going to buy your book on payday.

  • @ISAWXTC1980
    @ISAWXTC1980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can't thankyou enouph ! after more than 50 years !! you've got the best character reveal on the Man behind the reclusive myth - seeing his home films and video collection and notes priceless -...Now- if we can only find someone who attended his only Comic convention appearance in '65....

  • @wraithx7
    @wraithx7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This interview is awesome and is the most informative and revealing insight into Ditko's life and as a person. Thank you for doing this interview.

  • @Lastofmykind73
    @Lastofmykind73 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wonderful interview, thanks to all!

  • @doeBemran
    @doeBemran 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is an extraordinary revealing of one comic's most elusive figures. Kuddos Alex! What you've done here certainly raises the bar.

  • @ScaryGarrySG1
    @ScaryGarrySG1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FANTASTIC interview/feature here! Pat and Patrick, thank you very much for sharing all of this with us. A lot of people have seemed to think for many years that they had Steve Ditko figured out, I am willing to bet they never imagined their vision of Steve as goofing around and making funny home movies!

  • @RogerFusselman
    @RogerFusselman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Some Ayn Rand points, from a genuine Objectivist who's received a letter from Ditko: 1) Pronounce "Ayn" correctly. Rhymes with "mine." 2) That "Psycho-Epistemology" course is pretty interesting on the creative process; Ditko would have listened to it carefully. 3) Dr. Strange is never taken by Objectivists as a betrayal of Objectivism, and none of us criticize magical fantasy as a genre.

  • @aaroncampbell8303
    @aaroncampbell8303 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is incredible! Thank you all!

  • @roland3005
    @roland3005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredible work, and many thanks to his family for honoring his legacy and showing the side of Steve Ditko that I and so many others never knew existed. A genius on so many levels, my life has been shaped so much by his work and I cant thank you enough for this documentary.

  • @ludwik7326
    @ludwik7326 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for this ! And thanks to the Ditko family, I'm glad they're opening to present a new side of the man

  • @hawkeye1970s
    @hawkeye1970s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a great interview; very interesting. Thanks for doing this and thanks to both Pat and Patrick.

  • @sgt.donowitz4236
    @sgt.donowitz4236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome ! Thank you for this precious interview. Ditko was a fascinating artist.

  • @RoberSoul77
    @RoberSoul77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is just wonderful. Thanks so much for doing this. Ditko deserves this and more. I never imagined I would get a glimpse into his personal life, with him being so private and everything! I particulary liked the part about his personal belongings.

  • @drewgeraci8434
    @drewgeraci8434 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for this. It warms my heart.

  • @vincewhirlwind68
    @vincewhirlwind68 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a wonderful interview about my all-time favourite comics artist. Needless to say it's enlightening beyond measure. Fascinating at long last to get a true picture of the man, who was clearly highly individualistic but at the same time a much different, much warmer person than the mythology that abounded in his lifetime suggested. Such a pleasure to 'meet' the members of the Ditko family through CBH too, who all come across as intelligent, kind and good-humoured people with great love and respect for their departed relative. Thank you so much for publishing this.

  • @user-bn1yz8gv6d
    @user-bn1yz8gv6d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this interview. Im not necessarily a Comic fan, but I wanted to find out more of this Legend from my city. It saddens me, that we didn't/don't see much to commemerate him and his work. I am glad to see some of his art on the buildings....which ultimately led me here today. Much Luv and Thanks again

    • @spideyandme
      @spideyandme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Keep an eye out! There will be ongoing tributes to Steve Ditko right here in Johnstown, PA, in many forms, for years to come.

  • @aspenadam880
    @aspenadam880 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this!

  • @JordanAntonic
    @JordanAntonic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    incredible job getting this interview! 1:07:00 the gloves are off!!

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks

  • @worldwidechuck
    @worldwidechuck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is such a great piece go history!!! Thank you so much!

  • @comicsgrinder
    @comicsgrinder 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a great treat for any fan of Steve Ditko, Spider-Man, and pop culture in general!

  • @deangarretson8235
    @deangarretson8235 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My all time favorite artist I bought anything Steve Ditko plot and created.

  • @ChrisN1344
    @ChrisN1344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alex .. simply terrific. I’ve watched several of your interviews- you handle them perfectly. Being an artist myself, you actually anticipate the very questions I would ask … and you deliver them in exactly the right way. I enjoyed your Roy Thomas interview for the same reasons. Well done! 😊

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love that feedback, thank you Chris!

  • @Robd07
    @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I collect everything Steve Ditko..Pre- spiderman! He did some amazing stuff! What i never understood was why in his later years he never publically came out to tell it as it is himself? I mean the guy was basically a mystery.

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wrote many essays on the subject.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ComicBookHistorians yea..but he should have left some on camera interview for his fans!

  • @Vicshade
    @Vicshade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic interview. Those early wood blocks are so cool.

  • @animalmother8037
    @animalmother8037 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What an absolutely interesting guy Steve was.

  • @bensaunders2370
    @bensaunders2370 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating! Thanks so much for sharing this, Alex. The whole comics community owes you a debt of gratitude. And thanks to Pat and Patrick, too.

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was an esteemed pleasure spending time with those two.

  • @richfeinberg5130
    @richfeinberg5130 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how you index the topics at the bottom of the screen...I've never seen that before!

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, I’m a stickler for the details! It’s in most or all of my videos

  • @ZacharyWeaver-rc8xc
    @ZacharyWeaver-rc8xc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for this.

  • @stampscapes
    @stampscapes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing interview. Thanks.

  • @beajoh
    @beajoh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for posting. I very much enjoyed this.

  • @user-fs1mf1mm1c
    @user-fs1mf1mm1c 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am so looking forward to watching this Alex!😀

  • @richpotter
    @richpotter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm 30 minutes in and am amazed at how many "I don't knows," "I don't remembers," or "maybe our mother knew but I don'ts" is being spun into a portrait of this elusive figure. Great kudos to the interviewer!

  • @LouisKoza
    @LouisKoza 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful segment. THANK YOU for sharing this very interesting world of Mr. Steve Ditko. Respects to all.

  • @TheComicBinge
    @TheComicBinge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alex the 🐐 talking about Steve Ditko the 🐐…can’t much better than this. 💪

  • @Rodz1874
    @Rodz1874 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great interview guys

  • @Scottie-gd7bo
    @Scottie-gd7bo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is amazing

  • @edfarajian4664
    @edfarajian4664 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    By the way, Alex I ordered your book after checking out your channel. Your work’s important

  • @Gregblob
    @Gregblob 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview. I hope those woodblocks and other cool stuff will show up in their book.

  • @T.R.R.Jolkien
    @T.R.R.Jolkien 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the original spider-man stories, art and villains

  • @SonofJeddah
    @SonofJeddah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Alex for this 🙏🏼

  • @spooky1304
    @spooky1304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is fantastic.

  • @zacharymcmillan2788
    @zacharymcmillan2788 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow,VHS cassettes,that takes me back;I still remember the first two movies my family and I watched on the first VCR we ever bought:it was Dune and Robocop(the original films,not the remakes.) Good days.

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Historic moment...thanks so much!

  • @xurxogarcia1435
    @xurxogarcia1435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is fantastic

  • @anthonyperdue3557
    @anthonyperdue3557 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    😎Two films came immediately to mind Alex with this in depth interview : 1957s "Artists and Models" starring Dean Martin ( who was an avid comic book reader ; Batman being his favorite character) and Jerry Lewis ( who in a TV interview recorded a short time after Dean's passing spoke of Dean's comic book fascination and how wherever they traveled to Dean would ask Jerry to go out and buy him comic books similar to Steve 's dad with his sons); the film directed by Frank Tashlin ( former animator and the screenwriter for 1950s " The Good Humor Man " starring Jack Carson in the title role is the only film about a super hero -Captain Marvel - that doesn't have an actual live action appearance of the hero in it only plenty of references : comic books , a radio show excerpt , cos playing kid members of a Captain Marvel fan club. "Artists and Models" involves artist Dean and writer Jerry caught up in the comics controversy of the time and the comic book character causing concern is the sci-fi /horror super heroine The Bat Lady. The second film is 1965s "How To Murder Your Wife" starring Jack Lemmon as a cartoonist ( Lemmon was a fan of Bill Everett) who experiments with actual situations before depicting them in his adventure comic strip. Steve's background definitely seems relatable to these films in certain ways. His time with Stanton was his experimentation with swinging society culture of the time. His "reclusiveness" was his Batcave analysis of human interaction with life itself. For me his pre hero material (Charlton , Atlas/Marvel) and his 1970s Charlton contributions reflect his personality more intimately and entertaining. He was committed to creativity is what it all adds up to. I do not mourn Steve's passing I 🍻celebrate his choosing to communicate with us his consciouness creatively !

  • @slagit
    @slagit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool and important video at least to me. Also dug Mr. Ditko's work and being a huge Spider-Man fan as a kid I really was drawn to his work there and with other comics like Blue Beetle, etc. His work was so amazing and wild to me all at once. I still wish I could of met him! Sadly the closest I met to any of the early Spider-Man artists I met was Gil Kane.

  • @tonygriego6382
    @tonygriego6382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great interview. It offered a lot of insight into a very private man.

  • @wileyjdraws7594
    @wileyjdraws7594 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fascinating. I wonder if they took video of his studio?

  • @dadandRiy
    @dadandRiy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is excellent. Thank you for it

  • @patrickmichels7888
    @patrickmichels7888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview Alex. U ask important questions and they gave some great answers. If I had a chance I would also ask 1) how do you feel about Steve never finding romance or love in his life. Did it bother you that he lived alone for most of his life and never had kids 2) why did steve never try to monetize his creation of spiderman or Dr strange or other characters 3) how could Steve afford two apartments in New York. Did someone pay for them for him and if so who was it

    • @ubervocal8777
      @ubervocal8777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      3) Rent control would likely mean he paid very little for them.

  • @elkonazo
    @elkonazo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg...I have the same bday as Steve ditko.INCREDIBLE!

  • @GeoffNelson
    @GeoffNelson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh wow!

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You generally get a form from your Parish in the Latin Rite Catholic Church.
    My experience was having the Parish secretary ask the Pastor if I was a practicing Catholic and having him say, "Practicing, yeah, he sure hasn't gotten it right yet."

  • @frunknuckle
    @frunknuckle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a real treasure!

  • @jamesmccluskeycolors
    @jamesmccluskeycolors 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stephen John Ditko[1][2] (/ˈdɪtkoʊ/; November 2, 1927 - June 29, 2018) was an American comics artist and writer best known for being the co-creator of Marvel superhero Spider-Man and creator of Doctor Strange. He also made notable contributions to the character of Iron Man, revolutionizing the character's red and yellow design.

  • @user-dk3up2nl1m
    @user-dk3up2nl1m 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was History class for me! How often do we know the family of famous artists.....very rare! I have tons of Ditko books pre-marvel which was better than Spiderman!

  • @littleboydesign
    @littleboydesign 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like to think I have the largest collection of Ditko comics west of the Mississippi after the former editor of Eclipse Comics Kat Yronwood lost hers in a flood I got to know her well sharing stories she said she interviewed Steve's relatives I had Amazing Adult Fantasy #15 bought it September 1962 yeah I'm a boomer have 17 issues of his Spiper-man run that he drew in the 60's yeah he's perfect story teller 😂

  • @leinadsocail9615
    @leinadsocail9615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I had the money, I’d make a Steve Ditko biopic cuz I think he deserves it 👍

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it would be kinda cool and boring at the same time. He was too private

  • @artdingo
    @artdingo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alex Grand, Comic book detective.

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m just an enthusiastic friend of the family.

  • @RobertMatteis-pe7vh
    @RobertMatteis-pe7vh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow well, Steve Ditko was one of my favorite artists . Anyway, if he was able to keep lots of his original Spider-Man artwork, he would have had millions millions of dollars if he wanted it nobody really knew years ago how much original art and comic books would be worth, especially original Spider-Man artwork by the creator himself. Every page is worth a small fortune. Yes, he is very missed He was one of a kind.

  • @abh623
    @abh623 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to like this, but I can't because it'd go over 666 xD. Great interview, BTW.

  • @Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
    @Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🔥💙🔥

  • @haileyshannon7548
    @haileyshannon7548 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It amazes me how much the opposite of Stan Lee he was

  • @nobodysperfect06
    @nobodysperfect06 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This person is not a comic book artist, but he is a retired voice actor, I have long liked to compare him to Steve Ditko.
    I've always felt they are very similar in the sense of how extremely reclusive they are, how they always avoided the public, would never do interviews, very few or if any photos exist of them.
    John Erwin, best known as the original voice of He-Man from the classic 1980s cartoon.
    He has always been extremely reclusive and has always avoided the public.

  • @doofyproductionsofficial
    @doofyproductionsofficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious: What was the cut at 1:03:42? Not that I doubt the Ditko side of the story in the slightest, but in terms of journalism it seems a bad place to do an edit and it stuck out, particularly in the context of the question asked.

    • @ComicBookHistorians
      @ComicBookHistorians  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just coughing and drinking water. No sinister play at work.

    • @doofyproductionsofficial
      @doofyproductionsofficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ComicBookHistorians Honestly, my guess was further confusion over dates like the previous couple of minutes, but I figured I'd be "that guy"

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They probably talked how bad Stan Lee was. Lol

  • @WarriorsforInfoTV
    @WarriorsforInfoTV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mcdonalds made better product til the 1980's came.

  • @misterX1964
    @misterX1964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this!!