I got a chance to meet both Stan Lee and Will Eisner at a comic convention in South Florida in the 1990's. I still have a framed letter from Will Eisner critiquing my artwork and story that I sent to him many years ago. What a sad loss that these two pioneering greats are now gone.
That was great that you got to meet them. Stan Lee was one of my greatest inspirations and one of my regrets was never at least sending some fan mail to him. To let him know how much he influenced my childhood and adulthood.
Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my girlfriend during the lockdown :)
I met Will Eisner at the San Diego Comic-Con back in the early 2000’s where he was kind enough to sign several of my early 1940’s Sunday Spirits and some issues of Police Comics from that time that also reprinted some of the earliest 1940’s Spirit comics. He was an unforgettable man and I always wished I could’ve known him longer.
This is so great! Thank you for sharing. What a huge truck load of insights from two of the biggest Geniuses in Visual Communications. It's hard to take it all in one viewing
Will Eisner ,Giant (so great) Stan lee , company man . Ask Jack Kirby who drew 20,000 + pages in the 60's- and wrote his own stories ,creating more than half of marvels characters and yet could not get back original artwork. If this is not enough proof why did Steve Ditko leave to work for Charlton for slave wages ? If Stan lee was half as good as remembered , he would have bankrupt DC , instead of just dominating .HE HAD THE TEAM .
P.S. Stan Lee wrote corny dialogue,over original writers . Re sequenced panel to fit his dialogues .And called tt the"Marvel Method " A fancy excuse for having artists write their own stories only to be edited later .
@@agamotto5041 This is the standard "anti-Stan" clique distortion & over simplification which has been regurgitated endlessly, I'm afraid. No-one actually LISTENING to this exchange would have an excuse to dismiss Stan as merely "a company man", anymore than Will who also had a company to run & had his staff doing much of the output for him - especially during the last decade of the Spirit strip. Will Eisner would always pride himself on being a businessman & trying to be commercially savvy. It is very clear from this discussion that both Stan AND Will had done a lot of thinking about the medium of comics/graphics & also that their conclusions & aims were very similar. Stan's comment about inadvertently making 'points' in our stories is particularly acute & rather quotable! Having recently read biographies of both these gentlemen in succession, it is clear that neither were perfect, & anyone ever reading OUR biographies will soon reach the same conclusion, remember! It is clear to me from this interview that Stan was by no means the intellectual inferior of the two! If you REALLY want to describe the "Marvel Method" more accurately this time, you could not do better than to get it from the horse's mouth, so to speak IE: there is a 3hour interview on TH-cam with Tom Palmer under the "Comic Book Historians" banner. In this interview he describes it (just as it has been described many times before, really!). True, Kirby himself was given less & less of a plot to work with as it became clear ; a) that he wanted more independence & could manage, (being more experienced) and.......... b) that Stan had just about EVERY Marvel title to write for at the time & the workload was ridiculous until Roy Thomas et al came along. Kirby dialogue was not less "corny" than Stan's for goodness sake & it's interesting that he ended up coming back to Marvel after trying to manage without it! As has been observed by others, his stories, though imaginative, lost the human touch without Stan. Artwork being kept by the companies which 'bought it' from the artist was STANDARD practice at the time, not some evil Stan Lee innovation & from what I can gather, DC was more awkward than Marvel on this issue. As for Steve Ditko leaving for other pastures, you only need to look at the stories HE chose to write without Stan to realise why Stan's increasing attempts to connect with & understand the changing culture of the time would leave him rather uncomfortable! Stan Lee would be the FIRST to say that he "HAD THE TEAM" & in interviews, I've often heard him say so. Will Eisner also "HAD THE TEAM" - entire studios consisting of some of the greatest artists of the era including, at varying times; Lou Fine, George Tuska, Mike Ploog, Bob Powell, Bob Kane, Jules Feiffer, Dick Briefer (& many more) and.....guess who.....Jack Kirby. Listen to his description about being "overseer of a slave ship" ....BOTH Will and Stan jointly generated plots & ideas & oversaw & added dialogue and corrections to their final pages. BOTH were brilliant at what they did in their own way. BOTH were eccentric & pioneering. BOTH of them have been an inspiration to comic-strip fans everywhere. It is not necessary to disrespect one in order to boost the other.
Say what you will about Stan Lee now in hindsight, but you have to admit the guy was a visionary .. I mean this kind of format he had to bring in creditors like Eisner for a long form conversation was way ahead of its time. It’s almost like a video podcast that exists today. Also he’s such a great conversationalist and it’s so interesting! Absolutely great to see.
Thanks for showing this. Just the other day I was looking for different content in regards to this program and today this popped up. It's fantastic. Thanks!!
Thanks for this. And thanks for still being around. I subbed to you for this series so I could show it to other people. It was nice to see this in my feed.
Thank you! I mean REALLY; thank you. I appreciate that very much. That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me over the internet. I'm trying to get to the point where I have the time to start posting regularly again (and maybe starting another channel that won't get me sued if I monetize videos)... But, for now, I'm happy to occasionally post something that somebody might get something out of. If you liked this one then YOU are the person that I posted this for. Thanks for the nice comment.
Such an eloquent and intelligent human being, his views seems to be really progressive specially for the era in which he developed his craft, hearing them talking about how the comic is a valid medium that its begining to be taken seriously is an example on how many old greats struggled to bring this art as valid as any other. However, he crearly did not watch The Terminator cuz is a cool ass story lol
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I got a chance to meet both Stan Lee and Will Eisner at a comic convention in South Florida in the 1990's. I still have a framed letter from Will Eisner critiquing my artwork and story that I sent to him many years ago. What a sad loss that these two pioneering greats are now gone.
That was great that you got to meet them. Stan Lee was one of my greatest inspirations and one of my regrets was never at least sending some fan mail to him. To let him know how much he influenced my childhood and adulthood.
why does WIll Eisner write his name in the Walt Disney style?
Skyler Landale Probably because Walt Disney did not invent this style, it was just a cartoonist style of lettering.
Gone but the legacy is huge. What a piece of document this interview is.
Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my girlfriend during the lockdown :)
Eisner spits straight facts. he was passionate about his craft and knew his shit with out being one of those "i am very smart" people.
In other words, he wasn't prententious.
Imagine having classes with Will Eisner.
What an amazing teacher he must have being.
My friend did take his class at SVA
Usually a man gifted with many words, I love how Stan allows Will to speak when he sees he's hitting his stride. Two of the greatest!
I met Will Eisner at the
San Diego Comic-Con back in the early 2000’s where he was kind enough to sign several of my early 1940’s Sunday Spirits and some issues of Police Comics from that time that also reprinted some of the earliest 1940’s Spirit comics. He was an unforgettable man and I always wished I could’ve known him longer.
Great and kind man. I met aged 9 in 1985 at a comic fair. He signed my spirit comic
There is a reason why the most important comic prize in the world is called Will Eisner Award.
I have been looking for this interview for years.
Really good one.
Rip will esiner 1917 -2005
This is so great! Thank you for sharing. What a huge truck load of insights from two of the biggest Geniuses in Visual Communications. It's hard to take it all in one viewing
Will Eisner ,Giant (so great) Stan lee , company man . Ask Jack Kirby who drew 20,000 + pages in the 60's- and wrote his own stories ,creating more than half of marvels characters and yet could not get back original artwork. If this is not enough proof why did Steve Ditko leave to work for Charlton for slave wages ? If Stan lee was half as good as remembered , he would have bankrupt DC , instead of just dominating .HE HAD THE TEAM .
P.S. Stan Lee wrote corny dialogue,over original writers . Re sequenced panel to fit his dialogues .And called tt the"Marvel Method " A fancy excuse for having artists write their own stories only to be edited later .
@@agamotto5041 This is the standard "anti-Stan" clique distortion & over simplification which has been regurgitated endlessly, I'm afraid.
No-one actually LISTENING to this exchange would have an excuse to dismiss Stan as merely "a company man", anymore than Will who also had a company to run & had his staff doing much of the output for him - especially during the last decade of the Spirit strip.
Will Eisner would always pride himself on being a businessman & trying to be commercially savvy.
It is very clear from this discussion that both Stan AND Will had done a lot of thinking about the medium of comics/graphics & also that their conclusions & aims were very similar. Stan's comment about inadvertently making 'points' in our stories is particularly acute & rather quotable!
Having recently read biographies of both these gentlemen in succession, it is clear that neither were perfect, & anyone ever reading OUR biographies will soon reach the same conclusion, remember! It is clear to me from this interview that Stan was by no means the intellectual inferior of the two!
If you REALLY want to describe the "Marvel Method" more accurately this time, you could not do better than to get it from the horse's mouth, so to speak IE: there is a 3hour interview on TH-cam with Tom Palmer under the "Comic Book Historians" banner. In this interview he describes it (just as it has been described many times before, really!).
True, Kirby himself was given less & less of a plot to work with as it became clear ;
a) that he wanted more independence & could manage, (being more experienced) and..........
b) that Stan had just about EVERY Marvel title to write for at the time & the workload was ridiculous until Roy Thomas et al came along.
Kirby dialogue was not less "corny" than Stan's for goodness sake & it's interesting that he ended up coming back to Marvel after trying to manage without it! As has been observed by others, his stories, though imaginative, lost the human touch without Stan.
Artwork being kept by the companies which 'bought it' from the artist was STANDARD practice at the time, not some evil Stan Lee innovation & from what I can gather, DC was more awkward than Marvel on this issue.
As for Steve Ditko leaving for other pastures, you only need to look at the stories HE chose to write without Stan to realise why Stan's increasing attempts to connect with & understand the changing culture of the time would leave him rather uncomfortable!
Stan Lee would be the FIRST to say that he "HAD THE TEAM" & in interviews, I've often heard him say so.
Will Eisner also "HAD THE TEAM" - entire studios consisting of some of the greatest artists of the era including, at varying times; Lou Fine, George Tuska, Mike Ploog, Bob Powell, Bob Kane, Jules Feiffer, Dick Briefer (& many more) and.....guess who.....Jack Kirby.
Listen to his description about being "overseer of a slave ship" ....BOTH Will and Stan jointly generated plots & ideas & oversaw & added dialogue and corrections to their final pages.
BOTH were brilliant at what they did in their own way.
BOTH were eccentric & pioneering.
BOTH of them have been an inspiration to comic-strip fans everywhere.
It is not necessary to disrespect one in order to boost the other.
Say what you will about Stan Lee now in hindsight, but you have to admit the guy was a visionary .. I mean this kind of format he had to bring in creditors like Eisner for a long form conversation was way ahead of its time. It’s almost like a video podcast that exists today. Also he’s such a great conversationalist and it’s so interesting! Absolutely great to see.
@@birlove1471 Yep. It was great to see these two characters together, eh?
Thanks for showing this. Just the other day I was looking for different content in regards to this program and today this popped up. It's fantastic. Thanks!!
Thanks for this. And thanks for still being around. I subbed to you for this series so I could show it to other people. It was nice to see this in my feed.
Thank you! I mean REALLY; thank you. I appreciate that very much. That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me over the internet.
I'm trying to get to the point where I have the time to start posting regularly again (and maybe starting another channel that won't get me sued if I monetize videos)... But, for now, I'm happy to occasionally post something that somebody might get something out of. If you liked this one then YOU are the person that I posted this for.
Thanks for the nice comment.
How fast thing's change when the creator is nolonger a part of his creation. RIP Stan.
my left ear loved this!
Lmao
My left ball loved it
Eisner's drawing is crazy fast here. Zero hesitation.
Such an eloquent and intelligent human being, his views seems to be really progressive specially for the era in which he developed his craft, hearing them talking about how the comic is a valid medium that its begining to be taken seriously is an example on how many old greats struggled to bring this art as valid as any other.
However, he crearly did not watch The Terminator cuz is a cool ass story lol
one of the good artist of all time. So thank you for one of the good artist of all time. So thank you for
I am inspired by american comic artist..they really brought life in great depression to joy and wonder
What a gem! Thank you for sharing!
Masters.Thank you.
The last one I needed! Much appreciated.
Thank you very much for share!! Will Eisner is my favorite!!
Gold
Awwwww
They could be brothers.
Rip
RIP Stan Lee
It's like his dad bro
Claro
Eisner tells the truth about ( indirectly) Hero Comics of Stan vs His... Stan Lee reacted!...
✌️❤️
Shame there are no inserts showing the pages in the book.
Is this the only video of Eisner drawing, because I cannot find any other video's?
So who kept all the art from this show after Stan passed?
Only one side works