Purchased a 23 Highlander platinum 4cyl turbo (Toyota has extreme success with 4cyl ) it’s amazing power everything is going 4cyl better with a high bred ….. very happy with my purchase
I prefer the 3.5 due to reliability. I am glad we got our XLE back in 2019. Nowadays I’d get the Honda Pilot that got a new dual cam V6 this year that meets epa requirements. Honda was smart to keep the V6 especially when the gas mileage is the same, and it accelerates faster due to more horsepower. V6 is also quieter and smoother. That 4 cylinder sounds like shit, and that is my opinion. It you want a new Highlander, get the hybrid engine.
The 2.4 hasn't been out long enough to make any claims about long term reliability. People love to make assumptions about turbo engines based on VERY outdated thinking. Turbo engines are far more common now, so more attention is being paid to reliability. They've come a long way since the old days, especially from a brand like Toyota, the master at product development and testing. Just wait until the 2nd or 3rd model year and any issues will have been resolved.
The problem is that new hybrid is paired with a new ECVT transmission, so with GHL, you have to either get a turbo charged 4C or an ECVT. It's really terrible.
The hybrid has a CVT, but the Grand Highlander Hybrid Max has a six speed automatic transmission. That’s the way to go if you need a new mid size Toyota SUV. 360 hp too!
I wouldn’t get the 2.4 turbo at all. It is nice in the Grand Highlander because the hybrid system and design makes it as smooth and quiet as the V6. However, in the regular Highlander, it is horrendously loud compared to the quiet and smooth V6. Sorry to hear about your car. Smart move to get a reliable Corolla.
"My only complaint is that it's really obnoxious" I did this same test drive comparison a few weeks back. 4c Turbo feels & sound vastly inferior to the outgoing tried & true V6. Not to mention who wants to be a first generation adopter of anything? No contest. Happy with my 2022 V6.
@@Hernsama Yes I know they have been on Lexus models for a long time. The '23 Highlanders were the first to combine the 4c Turbo with this frame. If you drive a '22 vs a '23 you will know the turbo just makes this a worse car. ALL turbos have more parts, higher temps, higher pressures, more opportunities to cause problems. Any mechanic will tell you that turbos will cost you more if you plan to keep a vehicle for the long run. Give me the most refined version of one of the most reliable engines ever put on the road.
The question is whether the Turbo 4 cylinder is as reliable as the six cylinder. If there is anyone who watches this video and has the new engine with decent miles, it would be good to know if you have run into any maintenance surprises.
My here’s no way the forced induction little engine will be more reliable than the v6. Idk if it is Toyota that built it, those turbocharged engines will not last as long
@@LiquidSm0keThat’s actually a different engine, though I am not worried about reliability on the 2.4T as Toyota has been making turbo engines for many decades.
How is the lubrication to the turbocharger bearings maintained if the car comes off the highway and the engine is turned off.. for instance, at a rest stop along an Interstate highway.... when the turbocharger is still spinning at very high rpm but the engine oil pump is off because the engine has stopped.
The drone of the four-cylinder is horrible. I can’t imagine hearing that sound inside of a tacoma all day long. The fact that the chief engineer said they had to detune the engine just to mate it with a manual transmission in the Tacoma due to crank shaft hammering, means they are already pushing this engine to right under its limits. This is not the type of engine that you should flash or could add 200 hp to. This engine hauling and towing stuff around in a pick up truck for half a decade will show its true colors, whether good or bad.
The new engine may ride as good as the 3.5 Litre engine BUT it won’t last as long. A smaller displacement engine needs to work harder than the larger one and the turbo places a lot more heat so it’s going to be more maintenance involved. Governments placed unrealistic expectations on auto manufacturers.
I had a 15 highlander for my first car now I have a Acura TL that's about paid off but I'm into atvs and jetskis now and looking to trade for a SUV. Though I could put a tow hitch on the TL.
Those acuras are super nice! I’d say it sounds like an suv or a Tacoma might be in your future😂 I’m a big jet ski guy myself. I love the old stand up jet skis like the Yamaha superjet and the Kawasaki 750sx
My only issue is the reliability will it be able to last as long and say I load up the car with people and stuff will power be delivered properly since it's gonna be a heavy car it's gonna struggle alot if there's gonna be more load on the car than less load cause it's a V4 Turbo not a V6 and Turbo's tend to overheat alot and parts wear quicker than in a normal V6 Aspirated engine.
It may not be as reliable as the V6 but it is definitely more reliable than those v6 from other brands. The 4c turbo is more responsive and powerful than the v6 . I have 2024 lexus rx350 previously owned 2022 rx350 with v6, im happy with my new 2024 lexus rx350 it is more nimble and take off right away once you press the gas paddle from stop.
If you're interested in a drag race between these 2 midsized SUV models you're missing the point. Far more pertinent to most buyers would be which makes it to 300k miles. HINT: it won't be the turbo.
People are always skeptical about new engines. Just get what you want. Toyotas reliable as is. Faulty models are rare in comparison to the amount of owners.
The 4 cyl with the turbo doesn't sound half bad, actually. That was one thing that's kinda bothered me about the 4 bangers in the past; their engine sound and rattle.
My Forerunner in Japan was a 91 it was a Turbo, so was my Skyline...so were all the best cars in Japan. Funny to hear all the anti turbo talk lol funny Americans
@@thomaspadua9024 Turbos rarely fail most things on a Japanese car that fail are suspension and CV joints, matter fact out of all the Skylines my buddies and I have not one had a bad turbo, I lived in Japan for 11 years. They don't have v8s they have Turbos, and been running turbos for 15 years before I got there in the 90s. Turbos are fantastic at altitude also, run cleaner and turbo engines are built better in every way over non turbo engines. The Catalytic converter is also tucked a bit, meaning it wont get jacked; that's $2500 k saved. Toyota is smart. Turbo phobia is real with Americans, and volvo started it years ago with their bad designs and then the whole foreign car thing started. Funny enough now all foreign built cars run better and longer than their American counterparts.
@@BaaSicStuff turbo phobia is real because Toyota tundra owners are experiencing twin turbo and wastegate failures. They aren't cheap to replace plus the turbos are all the way at the back which is inaccessible. I agree foreign about foreign released Toyotas are extremely reliable. I was born in Philippines and we had Toyota Hiluxes. I wouldn't mind replacing the turbo on my own but again it is inaccessible. But again for a tiny motor with a turbo just creates so much stress to the internals. Also, hybrid motor sandwiched between motor and transmission creates points of failure.
@@thomaspadua9024 The Tundras have a wide variety of issues to include the fit and finish recently, very unfortunate. V6s and V8s get terrible gas mileage, the 4T is a proven platform on many car brands. I get your point, cars have issues, I don't care for hybrids, especially for an off road vehicle. They add 700lbs to any car and over heat after a few hill climbs. I would prefer the turbos to be upfront on sports cars so we can swap them out, remove one, get a bigger one for example. One of the best engines is the straight 6 turbo but many reasons why we've moved on. I have legitimate hybrid phobia lol. When In Japan my other car was a Hilux Diesel Turbo, thing was a BEAST, all my buddies had the V6, quite the slug, but reliable. Many richer Japanese had Super Chargers on those TRD
Government ruins everything good it seems. I have a 2014 Mercedes Benz C Class and my model year was the last year of the 3.5 liter V6 so I've decided to keep my car instead of trading it in for a noisy 4 banger that goes through nine gears.
Just working harder to move the car in every instance. In my test drive, this is what I couldn't escape. In every situation the 4c Turbo was working so hard. Was it "responsive" and "zippy"? Yes. Would I want to fork over 10s of thousands of dollars for a machine like this when I had the fortunate option of going with the V6? Nope.
This is a BS video by someone trying to convince you to buy into Toyota hype regarding the 4 cyl turbo. I've owned 2 Highlanders, both with the 6 cylinder engine. Both were quiet, dependable, great riding vehicles. While the 4 cylinder turbo does have more torque, it is rated as less overall HP than the 3.5. His "scientific" comparison is rubbish. Note how he only compares it to the 6 cylinder from 0-40 mph (saying he doesn't want to stress the new one). That's because at freeway speeds or in hilly environments the 4 cylinder is whiny and much louder than the 3.5. He does mention he doesn't like that it "sounds like a Rav". Would have been better to have had a decibel meter to be scientific, although that would only measure the loudness differences. I believe that in a hilly environment the Highlander is much too heavy to be powered long term by a 4 cylinder engine. Also if a quiet highway ride is important to you I'd shy away from it also (probably ok for flatlanders who don't do a lot of distance driving and NEVER tow anything). They are rated to tow but that's nuts unless ya buy a new car frequently. I've bought my last Highlander because of the elimination of the 6 cylinder. Too bad because they had a really nice vehicle...
Yo I got 200 miles on my Highlander and it puts my hemi to shame climbing hills and just driving Ps the hemi is babied always flowing may be running 33’s on 12 wides but still
When I hear Turbo, I hear problems. Also, is Toyota crazy or what? How a 4 cylinders work effectively to carry a 7-8 passengers ? That doesn’t make sense to me. I hear and foresee lots of mechanical issues with that engine. I am not an expert in engines but I try to use my common sense.
@@FJUHdiesel engine last forever regardless of having a turbo, but it seems like this engine is being really cranked out, better so all the maintenance right away and don't go past 5k on the oil changes or this engine will start burning oil.
Lots of whining about how this new turbo engine will not be reliable, can you all refresh me on how many unreliable engines that Toyota has put into production or is known for let’s say over the 30 years?
Toyota Lexus IS making a fatal mistake in removing V6 engines. I will never by a car with that pathetic inadequate engine they are putting in every vehicle now
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Purchased a 23 Highlander platinum 4cyl turbo (Toyota has extreme success with 4cyl ) it’s amazing power everything is going 4cyl better with a high bred ….. very happy with my purchase
I prefer the 3.5 due to reliability. I am glad we got our XLE back in 2019. Nowadays I’d get the Honda Pilot that got a new dual cam V6 this year that meets epa requirements. Honda was smart to keep the V6 especially when the gas mileage is the same, and it accelerates faster due to more horsepower. V6 is also quieter and smoother. That 4 cylinder sounds like shit, and that is my opinion. It you want a new Highlander, get the hybrid engine.
The 2.4 hasn't been out long enough to make any claims about long term reliability. People love to make assumptions about turbo engines based on VERY outdated thinking. Turbo engines are far more common now, so more attention is being paid to reliability. They've come a long way since the old days, especially from a brand like Toyota, the master at product development and testing. Just wait until the 2nd or 3rd model year and any issues will have been resolved.
The problem is that new hybrid is paired with a new ECVT transmission, so with GHL, you have to either get a turbo charged 4C or an ECVT. It's really terrible.
The hybrid has a CVT, but the Grand Highlander Hybrid Max has a six speed automatic transmission. That’s the way to go if you need a new mid size Toyota SUV. 360 hp too!
Bought '21 V6 - just totaled. Pure tragedy with no reasonable replacement. I will go with Corolla and spent difference on travel by plane.😂
I wouldn’t get the 2.4 turbo at all. It is nice in the Grand Highlander because the hybrid system and design makes it as smooth and quiet as the V6. However, in the regular Highlander, it is horrendously loud compared to the quiet and smooth V6. Sorry to hear about your car. Smart move to get a reliable Corolla.
"My only complaint is that it's really obnoxious"
I did this same test drive comparison a few weeks back. 4c Turbo feels & sound vastly inferior to the outgoing tried & true V6. Not to mention who wants to be a first generation adopter of anything? No contest. Happy with my 2022 V6.
That 22 v6 of yours will last forever. Very nice car!
The 2.4 turbo has been around for years.
Refresh me on the how many unreliable engines Toyota has built and is known for the last 20+ years?
@@msk3905Honda recently ruined their reliability reputation with their 1.5L turbo
@@Hernsama Yes I know they have been on Lexus models for a long time. The '23 Highlanders were the first to combine the 4c Turbo with this frame. If you drive a '22 vs a '23 you will know the turbo just makes this a worse car. ALL turbos have more parts, higher temps, higher pressures, more opportunities to cause problems. Any mechanic will tell you that turbos will cost you more if you plan to keep a vehicle for the long run. Give me the most refined version of one of the most reliable engines ever put on the road.
great video!!!
Great awesome video!!!
Love my V6 2021 HL
My 17 AWD is the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Also still have an 08! I’ll wait on this new engine.
Those old ones are awesome. Thanks for watching!
The question is whether the Turbo 4 cylinder is as reliable as the six cylinder. If there is anyone who watches this video and has the new engine with decent miles, it would be good to know if you have run into any maintenance surprises.
My here’s no way the forced induction little engine will be more reliable than the v6. Idk if it is Toyota that built it, those turbocharged engines will not last as long
Lexus has been using this engine in the Nx200t. Some have over 140k miles running great. Change oil every 5k or 6 months
@@LiquidSm0keThat’s actually a different engine, though I am not worried about reliability on the 2.4T as Toyota has been making turbo engines for many decades.
@@CollinMac96if it’s built like a 2jz it’ll be reliable
I have same engine on lexus Nx200t been so good and reliable and effiecient
How is the lubrication to the turbocharger bearings maintained if the car comes off the highway and the engine is turned off.. for instance, at a rest stop along an Interstate highway.... when the turbocharger is still spinning at very high rpm but the engine oil pump is off because the engine has stopped.
The drone of the four-cylinder is horrible. I can’t imagine hearing that sound inside of a tacoma all day long. The fact that the chief engineer said they had to detune the engine just to mate it with a manual transmission in the Tacoma due to crank shaft hammering, means they are already pushing this engine to right under its limits. This is not the type of engine that you should flash or could add 200 hp to. This engine hauling and towing stuff around in a pick up truck for half a decade will show its true colors, whether good or bad.
The new engine may ride as good as the 3.5 Litre engine BUT it won’t last as long. A smaller displacement engine needs to work harder than the larger one and the turbo places a lot more heat so it’s going to be more maintenance involved. Governments placed unrealistic expectations on auto manufacturers.
great video keep up the good work hopefully some of the freeloaders watching your channel will subscribe
SMASH THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON😂😂
How long will that turbo last ? 120K if you are lucky. 3.5 V6 will last 500K miles without any problems.
I had a 15 highlander for my first car now I have a Acura TL that's about paid off but I'm into atvs and jetskis now and looking to trade for a SUV. Though I could put a tow hitch on the TL.
Those acuras are super nice! I’d say it sounds like an suv or a Tacoma might be in your future😂 I’m a big jet ski guy myself. I love the old stand up jet skis like the Yamaha superjet and the Kawasaki 750sx
My only issue is the reliability will it be able to last as long and say I load up the car with people and stuff will power be delivered properly since it's gonna be a heavy car it's gonna struggle alot if there's gonna be more load on the car than less load cause it's a V4 Turbo not a V6 and Turbo's tend to overheat alot and parts wear quicker than in a normal V6 Aspirated engine.
It may not be as reliable as the V6 but it is definitely more reliable than those v6 from other brands. The 4c turbo is more responsive and powerful than the v6 . I have 2024 lexus rx350 previously owned 2022 rx350 with v6, im happy with my new 2024 lexus rx350 it is more nimble and take off right away once you press the gas paddle from stop.
Put them side by side on a track. That would be interesting
I think so. It’d probably be the worlds slowest drag race😂
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 true story 😂
If you're interested in a drag race between these 2 midsized SUV models you're missing the point. Far more pertinent to most buyers would be which makes it to 300k miles. HINT: it won't be the turbo.
The 2.4 has good power, the problem is that it sounds horrible and very unrefined specially compared to the V6
Like a mower 😂
People are always skeptical about new engines.
Just get what you want. Toyotas reliable as is. Faulty models are rare in comparison to the amount of owners.
People are talking about tiny engine fighting with the Highlander weight and nobody even thinks about turbo. That's another "cool" feature.
With engine’s sound is everything,if the engine doesn’t sound good that means it wasn’t tuned properly, cheaper build engine also sounds cheaper
I don’t want to stress the new vehicle… please do a video when you are ready to drive it.
The 4 cyl with the turbo doesn't sound half bad, actually. That was one thing that's kinda bothered me about the 4 bangers in the past; their engine sound and rattle.
Yo are wonderfull guy
Thank you so much for watching! I have a video on the GR corolla coming out soon. I think you will like it!
I have a 2017 Lexus ES350 with the Toyota v6. I will drive that car till it dies.
That is an awesome car! It’ll last forever!
Yes the best same im keeping my tacoma 2023 2.7 natural aspired
Any 4cyl turbo gonna be more happy revving up high RPM than the V6.
The v6 stays at 2300 rpm at 80mph while the 4c turbo stays lower at 1700 rpm at 80mph
@@odca72 you’re saying most of the hard work done by a work-truck (as an example) at higher MPH than from start-and-go?
Smaller cubic inches and more boost? what good can come of this?
Saving the planet 😂
So what’s the verdict 2.4 liter or 3.5 for the win?
Well… I don’t think any 2.4s have blown up yet. So I think only time will tell😂
Staying away from the 4 bangers because people are complaining of bad lag on these engines. Toyota intends to fix it, though. Not sure when.
I have one and there is almost no lag. I also had a 2021 IS300 turbo. THAT had THE worse lag in a turbo car I have ever had.
@@GhostofUSS Test drove it and sounds like sht, Rather had the v6, whole Toyota powertrain line up is crap.
how is the transmission? still a CVT? Not a fan
The transmission on the non hybrid highlanders is an 8 speed automatic so it’s actually really good
The Highlander never had a CVT...
My Forerunner in Japan was a 91 it was a Turbo, so was my Skyline...so were all the best cars in Japan. Funny to hear all the anti turbo talk lol funny Americans
Yea if the turbo dies, guest what? it's in the rear of the engine, It's not accessible and turbos arent cheap
@@thomaspadua9024 Turbos rarely fail most things on a Japanese car that fail are suspension and CV joints, matter fact out of all the Skylines my buddies and I have not one had a bad turbo, I lived in Japan for 11 years. They don't have v8s they have Turbos, and been running turbos for 15 years before I got there in the 90s. Turbos are fantastic at altitude also, run cleaner and turbo engines are built better in every way over non turbo engines. The Catalytic converter is also tucked a bit, meaning it wont get jacked; that's $2500 k saved. Toyota is smart. Turbo phobia is real with Americans, and volvo started it years ago with their bad designs and then the whole foreign car thing started. Funny enough now all foreign built cars run better and longer than their American counterparts.
@@BaaSicStuff turbo phobia is real because Toyota tundra owners are experiencing twin turbo and wastegate failures. They aren't cheap to replace plus the turbos are all the way at the back which is inaccessible. I agree foreign about foreign released Toyotas are extremely reliable. I was born in Philippines and we had Toyota Hiluxes. I wouldn't mind replacing the turbo on my own but again it is inaccessible. But again for a tiny motor with a turbo just creates so much stress to the internals. Also, hybrid motor sandwiched between motor and transmission creates points of failure.
@@thomaspadua9024 The Tundras have a wide variety of issues to include the fit and finish recently, very unfortunate. V6s and V8s get terrible gas mileage, the 4T is a proven platform on many car brands. I get your point, cars have issues, I don't care for hybrids, especially for an off road vehicle. They add 700lbs to any car and over heat after a few hill climbs. I would prefer the turbos to be upfront on sports cars so we can swap them out, remove one, get a bigger one for example. One of the best engines is the straight 6 turbo but many reasons why we've moved on. I have legitimate hybrid phobia lol. When In Japan my other car was a Hilux Diesel Turbo, thing was a BEAST, all my buddies had the V6, quite the slug, but reliable. Many richer Japanese had Super Chargers on those TRD
Can’t wait for some ecu flash and increase boost on those 🤣
That would be sweet! My Tacoma rips as it is! 😂
Slower is slower. The End.
Government ruins everything good it seems. I have a 2014 Mercedes Benz C Class and my model year was the last year of the 3.5 liter V6 so I've decided to keep my car instead of trading it in for a noisy 4 banger that goes through nine gears.
That is for sure. The government 1000% ruins everything good!
You can hear the engine grinding
We're doing what we can 😂
Just working harder to move the car in every instance. In my test drive, this is what I couldn't escape. In every situation the 4c Turbo was working so hard. Was it "responsive" and "zippy"? Yes. Would I want to fork over 10s of thousands of dollars for a machine like this when I had the fortunate option of going with the V6? Nope.
Another casualty of new strict epa requirements.. 😔😔😔
Keep in mind there’s a few Lexus well over 100 k miles trouble free
Simple answer to your question is... hell no!!!
Explain powertrain, explain the torc, most people want a 6 cylinder. Why is this better? Nobody wants a 4 cylinder SUV
This is a BS video by someone trying to convince you to buy into Toyota hype regarding the 4 cyl turbo. I've owned 2 Highlanders, both with the 6 cylinder engine. Both were quiet, dependable, great riding vehicles. While the 4 cylinder turbo does have more torque, it is rated as less overall HP than the 3.5. His "scientific" comparison is rubbish. Note how he only compares it to the 6 cylinder from 0-40 mph (saying he doesn't want to stress the new one). That's because at freeway speeds or in hilly environments the 4 cylinder is whiny and much louder than the 3.5. He does mention he doesn't like that it "sounds like a Rav". Would have been better to have had a decibel meter to be scientific, although that would only measure the loudness differences.
I believe that in a hilly environment the Highlander is much too heavy to be powered long term by a 4 cylinder engine. Also if a quiet highway ride is important to you I'd shy away from it also (probably ok for flatlanders who don't do a lot of distance driving and NEVER tow anything). They are rated to tow but that's nuts unless ya buy a new car frequently. I've bought my last Highlander because of the elimination of the 6 cylinder. Too bad because they had a really nice vehicle...
Yo I got 200 miles on my Highlander and it puts my hemi to shame climbing hills and just driving
Ps the hemi is babied always flowing may be running 33’s on 12 wides but still
When I hear Turbo, I hear problems. Also, is Toyota crazy or what? How a 4 cylinders work effectively to carry a 7-8 passengers ? That doesn’t make sense to me. I hear and foresee lots of mechanical issues with that engine. I am not an expert in engines but I try to use my common sense.
You’re living in the dark ages. Toyota has been using turbos in their diesel engines here in Australia for decades with reliability.
@@FJUHdiesel engine last forever regardless of having a turbo, but it seems like this engine is being really cranked out, better so all the maintenance right away and don't go past 5k on the oil changes or this engine will start burning oil.
I dont think it was a good move on toyotas part. Theyre also getting sued for selling packages of stuff people dont need.
This turbo engine is crap. It will not last long.
Lots of whining about how this new turbo engine will not be reliable, can you all refresh me on how many unreliable engines that Toyota has put into production or is known for let’s say over the 30 years?
To be fair. Toyota built the 2jz. Arguably one of the greatest (most reliable) turbo engines of all time.
Pretty much a useless video. I more interested in reliability than how fast it can reach 40mh.
Toyota Lexus IS making a fatal mistake in removing V6 engines. I will never by a car with that pathetic inadequate engine they are putting in every vehicle now
Stu...pid Toyota 😂😂😂.
Mazda car 100 times better than Toyota
The turbo 4 is slower, noiser and less reliable.... Any sane minded person would stay with the old V6