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@@rodmongodwood That's peculiar since I was able to. Are you sure that you weren't running out of mana before it began or that your summons cost too much? If that isn't the solution I am not sure what it is.
Another option for summoning your spirits is putting them on your pouch quickslot and hitting summon the moment you reduce her hp to zero in phase one before the transition, so that way you enter phase two with them already on the field.
@@mooserocka522 sometimes a chandelier drops in phase 1 that can do substantial damage to your summons, especially if you went in with them unupgraded like me. Just helps make sure you go into phase 2 with them at full hp.
No matter what you play it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to run straight up to her right off the bat so her beam go straight over your head. Cannot emphasize how much easier that makes this fight. Edit : This apparently helped a lot of people out (including me). Glad I finally contributed something to the community lol.
1. Spawn in your dogs right at the end of the first phase, they’ll be there when the second phase starts and they can take most of the aggro 2. USE ROCK SLING IF YOU HAVE AN INT BUILD, IT DESTROYS HER 3. If you can’t use rock sling, use a bleed weapon She’s a cake walk if you do those 3 things
I can’t do shit, she is constantly spamming spells and never gives me an opening I’m constantly dodging. The more I progress through this game the more dogshit it becou
@@owen0566 Your summon is there to take some of the aggro off of you to give you an opening. Spawn in your summon before she goes to the second phase and then dodge her initial magic beam and you’re set. She gets staggered extremely easily
@@gabesoto9301 that’s what I’ve been doing and she spams that honing shit and the crystal bs constantly. And when all of my summons are on her she always does that giant moon spell and floats away.
The tip about being aggressive and staggering her in Phase 2 is key, without that she will quickly wear you down with her barrage of spells and summons. The wolf summons are extremely useful at keeping her busy, would also recommend upgrading them before this fight if possible. I think the long run from the closest site of Grace to the boss also makes this somewhat annoying especially the mages and their spells along the way.
Where is that closest site of Grace you mentioned? I ran from the Grace Site where I fought Radagon's Red Wolf, cross the beam to the path with rolling giant ball, and took the elevator. No mages encountered so far (as long as you didn't aggro them since they are far away from the Grace Site).
@@dimitrijetokovic5652If you go up to where the ball comes from (ladder behind locked door on left - you can jump on the window sill from the courtyard), and kill the mages on top it stops the ball from spawning
Just for posterity, you don't even need to dodge the ball. Just before you fight the Carian knight, there's a ladder up to a room with three sorcs and a pumpkinhead. Kill the sorcs and there's no more ball trap. You can just run unimpeded to the elevator each time after that. If you send the elevator down after the ride you don't even have to wait for that next time.
Her 2nd magic phase can be tough! Reminds me of the Shadows of Yharnam fight in Bloodborne where if you dont kill them quick the fight becomes like 2x harder. Same with Rennala's second phase, if you dont bum rush her and kill her quick her summons/magic will destroy you
For people dedicated to melee with no summons and no spirits, run STRAIGHT into her and jump attack. Most, if not all, her magic attacks will shoot straight over you, even the homing attacks and the shotgun blast. I think it's because youre actually behind her wand, so the attacks dont track backwards.
Ok so yeah the jump can be a bit difficult to i-frame. In that case just roll straight forward into her spells. The homing attacks cant track backwards. The only thing you have to watch out for are the close range propeller attack and the summons. I soloed at level 30, +2 special weapon. If youre lower level, you may struggle more.
As a melee build. Phase 1: rush 3 glowing ones spam, repeat. On last attack before switching to phase 2 make sure to buff up with a flask, buff weapon, and summon wolf's. They all cary over to p2 Phase 2, charge her directly. Spam attack while she's lazering, if she runs rush her again. Never let her get away from melee range, and you can spam her down. If she hits you with pretty much any of her attacks it's game over. Was super frustrating till I figured this out, and then got her first attempt I did the above.
Perfect advice, also if u lose her and she is on mid to long range just run left or right in circles around her untill you can close the gap again. It's actually too easy knowing the mechanic.
god damn ty for the advice, i kept backing away when she did the ranged attacks but tried following ur advice of just rushing it with the wolves and did it first try lol
Also another tip that helped me. If you collect armors or clothes. Change your chest and helmet to something with high magic resist. It makes a lot of a difference. Keep boots an gauntlets high armor. Unless you want to switch to mage stuff. But the magic resist numbers is important. I also have a shield that has high magic resist, add the ash of war-no skill- with the magic option. Gives bit more resist to magic. those attacks in the second phase, would take 3 of her charging beams to kill you, or at least my character. I died like 4 times.
my first time playing this boss, despite my cluelessness during the fight, the boss, the environment and the music was so mesmerizing except except for the creepy crawly graduates
Her fight is very similar to The Four Kings, I find, in that it's effectively a war of attrition. You can't let up against her, you can't give her a chance to keep summoning familiars, you just got to keep on swinging until she falls, and pray that you've got enough damage and familiars of your own left to bring her down.
Huge thing for me was having my dogs upgraded. I failed probably 20 - 30 times with level one dogs. Went back and got them to level three and I beat her in my next attempt. I think with a higher level they must stagger her more or something because it was night and day.
@@RIZZLER117 you have to get the lady for spirit tuning in the round table hold I forget her name but it’s a small quest line that you’ve likely already started if not finished
For casters... Rotten breath works quite nicely on her, even in phase 1 with the shield. You still have to drop her shield one time, but if you tag her with it and proc the effect, it remains even when her shield is still up. You can proc it on her during phase 2 as well. This has worked for me up until she summons her dragon which downed me in one attack. Edit: Be warned if you try procing it in phase 2... for me, it wore off and left her with a sliver of hp left.
One tip I can give is that if you damage her in close range, she will almost always jump away after a hit. So instead of trying to string together hits, hit once and then preemptively roll forward so you can catch her when she jumps back.
I fucking hate the fact there are no marica statue near the boss, that is a fantastic mechanic that I don't understand because they only used it for some, the boss rush is just for stressing you out and breaking your balls, it doesn't add difficulty it's just an annoying waste of time.
Quite a few bosses have a site of lost grace right outside their boss door, which is a welcome change. Of course, the bosses that DON'T have those are invariably the most unfair and un-fun bosses in the game. The Red Wolf of Radagon being my go-to example.
Thanks to this video and the helpful comments I beat her. Really cool boss the hardest part for me was the dragon but my 2 best tips are to summon the wolves before the second phase because you cannot summon there. And also the moon explosion attack usually kills the wolves but it always targets you so I would lead the moon away from your wolves. Also at the start of the 2nd phase run straight towards her and the moon beam will go over your head and that also allows you to close the distance so you can get in some melee attacks. The rock sling spell also really helped me in this because it does physical damage and the spell has a quick cast time.
No. It's true that it is much more efficient to summon before the 2nd phase but you can summon also during her 2nd phase. You can try to summon when she does that ice moon spell coz that takes alot of chanelling.
When I first came to fight this boss I had no idea where I was going. I just ended up fighting different bosses and upgrading my guy. When I finally realized where I was supposed to go to I was already lvl 60 so she was really fun.
I’m starting to get to phase 2 but I keep getting killed. I use 4FP 2HP flask set up so I think this is my issue - but I’ll need it round 2 bc I planned to just harpoon her round 2. She ain’t easy!
@@brownsuede4413 caelid swamps south west. You get the meteorite staff which boosts Gravitation damage ad well and is the best staff in the game until you get Carian Regal Staff or Lusats and level them up
Thanks G. The wolves and sacred slash combo worked wonders. Still had to try a few times because her magic melts my Paladin build. Try summoning the wolves right before you hit the last lit up enemy. Whatever you summon stays in the battle between phases and allows you to be free at the beginning of the second phase instead of summoning.
as a little note to someone who one-shot this boss, almost everything in phase 2 is solved by rolling forward... like that's it... all her spells except the darth maul swirly stick and giga beam can be handled by just rolling forward to her (and the dragon and troll)... also there's one gravity spell that doesn't do magic damage, it's the one with three rocks in the icon.
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 get a coop partner man, the bleed hits fast when 2 players with bleed weapon keep hitting her, as much as I want to solo her, her 2nd phase spell spamming is just cheap and will always one shot you
Mixed feelings about this one. Killed her on first try on my melee build. On mage (no summons run), it was less fun. For whatever reason the 1st phase girls kept spawning in the weirdest places and I spent far too much time looking for them, hiding behind some shelf near the fog gate. And then with death in 2nd phase after getting instakilled by comet azur, the run up + boring 1st phase was no fun. So bleh. Could’ve made the trivial Phase 1 shorter and added a Marika statue. Otherwise a cool atmospheric fight. One of the creepier ones. Oh, and for mage, Rock Sling is the answer. Preferably with Radagon Icon so you don’t get stuck in casting animation and hit by Rennala’s spells.
I beat her for the first time earlier today (STR/DEX build, Bloodhound's Fang, Lone Wolf Ashes). The first phase of this fight is like something out of an Ari Aster movie lmao.
@@ZaaRaphz I was level 42 and was able to get a whopping one level added after the fight. The first phase is a joke if you keep moving and don't spend too much time in the open (And also dodge the books flying around. They do pitiful damage, but still), then I relied on the Bloodhound Fang's bleed buff and combat art for solid damage and quick dodges during the second phase. The Lone Wolf Ashes helped out by having them deal with her summons while I kept dishing out pain and the fight was done within about 3 minutes👍
I’m using your spellsword build so this guide was an absolute godsend. However I swapped out the wolves for the marionette soldiers. Those 2 units kept her pinned with their relentless barrage of arrows.
I done the exact same and found success. I had barely any vigor, my stats were primarily intelligence. Had to resort to using dual weathered straight swords since my dexterity was 8 lol. Put bleed damgage weapon art on one and bleed grease on the other. Used cursed blood pots on renalla after the marionettes spawned in to make them extra aggressive and just kept pressure on her so she couldnt cast/summon. Found her to be extremely difficult until I used this method
I think her reveal under the full moon is one of the best in the game and up there in the entire soul series. I got a chill when she announced her 2nd phase when I fought her. Was probably overleveled but nothing I can do about that. I like exploring. Beat her on my first attempt.
If you are having trouble dodging her beam wait for the wind up to finish getting small and wait one or two seconds before rolling to either side. For the rest of her attacks you should be able to walk to one side or the other and roll just before they reach you to dodge.
If you're having trouble dodging her beam, run straight towards her and it will go over you. "Wait one or two seconds" this isn't helping literally anyone, dumbass.
Getting in close was the key info that enabled me to beat her after many depressed failed attempts.. the nox priestesses worked well.. quite aggressive, short and medium range, good hp , Magic resistance.. that and the rosalindas twinblade. I'm a mage build. Had to re train. Many thanks.
When i got into this fight i did it almost 2nd try with ONLY ONE HIT LEFT (😭) after that i was struggling around because of getting hit by random stuff. After watching this video i did it first try no problems. Thanks a lot!!!
@@jondro6284 hahahah damn glad to hear you got it the next try. In my NG+ i killed her first try and got hit by the dragon a second later. Luckily survived that😂
I've beaten the game numerous times, in all of which I felled Rennala, and am just now hearing your advice for spirit summons and magic builds. Better late than never.
@Robertus, the Philosopher can't ignore them, she backpedals and moves so fucking far away meanwhile a spider and a giant are fucking you up the entire time
I just started playing like 2 weeks ago and I'm NOT Particularly good. I have improved but this one was Tough! TRIED to think of different strategies. I'll throw poison Rocks 🪨 at her so she takes damage while shielded. It does work but not very well. Different weapons, skills, thinking outside the box. What finally worked was SHOCKINGLY simple. +6 FLAIL & Wild strikes (PHASE 2) Dodge Kamehameha wave call summon to pull agro Heal / Buff ( if possible) While avoiding seeking Crystals it's important to Flank In TOWARDS her Get in her face or better behind. Hold wild strikes it just keeps going until you run out of Mana. If you pull aggro away from your decoy summon. Dodge Until he pulls it back. Third try this way I got it after MANY FAILURES. Repeat as needed.
Few things to make this fight easier. 1. A weapon with higher stagger potential or bleed (she’s highly susceptible) 2. An ash summon that is extremely aggressive with a high Heath pool. A good one is banished knight Oleg. He has a high health pool and damage resistance and he’s highly aggressive, constantly on the attack so he’s good at maintaining attention and he’s got good damage potential. 3. When she summons her own spirits, DO NOT ENGAGE THEM, just run around because they time out after a few moments and even if you kill them she will have a chance to just re summon them again and she has a chance to summon either a giant or dragon that do high damage.
Make sure to summon right before you are going to take her down in the first part that way part 2 you can have your summons agro her and you can get in tons of damage
If you use the electrify armament and the banished knights Halbert +8 with spinning strikes you can one phase the first fight, you can get the Halberd at the revengers shack
THIS RIGHT HERE. I've watched 3 guides after dying like 10 times and they all didn't work for me. This was perfect. Be agro, use wolves and i put blood ashes of war on my greatsword with occult variant. The first half i killed her while she was on the ground the first time lol didn't even have to wait for a second time. Then just dodge a few attacks, summon wolves, and jump straight into her like another awesome person in this comment section added. Thanks so much man. Subbed.
Thank you so much for this guide without it i probably would have been fighting her for hours, btw im shaking so much right now bc of adrenaline bc how good it worked thank yo
I recently bought Elden Ring in prep for the Erdtree expansion and am disecting it but couldn't understand her pummelling me 2nd phase until you said be aggressive. Saved the wolves summon til 2nd phase and used weapon skill instead of prophet flames. Wow and thank you!
i was stuck fighting her for an hour just now, then i used the wolves once and beat her. Thanks bro, this video definitely earned you a like and subscribe
I actually really enjoyed this guide, it's a great format for boss guides, and I've upgraded to check out your other guides; expect more likes and comments outta me!
May not have been the most efficient but I used night maidens mist. That spell is actually super busted and has kind of been carrying me. You get it from Sage Gowry
I tried 5-6 times to beat her with casting Rock and it was a mess each time. Upgraded a Uchi to +8 with bloody slash and went two handed ninja and cleared it pretty easily first try.
After a maybe 5 or 6 attempts, I somehow destroyed her on her phase two. Everybody summon your wolves at the end of phase 1 in the second phase just go HAAM and hit her as much as you can don't worry to much about her spells just keep going untill she does her first summon. Found her super easy compared to other bosses ngl.
I thought my shieldpoke build would have a tough time against her but it wound up in one try. Oddly enough phase 1 raising my shield against the book flingers while targeting them seemed to make them off their game a bit and barely anything hit me. Phase 2 I immediately target her and close distance in a tightening circle while my summons do their thing. A good time to attack her is right after you avoid her comet lance thing. Used light attacks to quickly build up stat effects on her . To be fair I had a good weapon with bleed and frost and usually fight her around 60lvl but went to 70 this time expecting a harder fight.
Finish first phase immediately summon Marionette Soldier Ashes +1 or 2 Start off with Finger Seal in left hand to cast bloodflame incantation Hookclaws +2 in right hand Two hand once bloodflame has been casted Watch her bleed
if anyone is still struggling, rush TOWARDS her not sideways, except for beam. The moment she backs off, take a second to refill stamina and rush TOWARDS her, no matter what happens. the flying spells miss you. The only thing you need to watch out is when she spins her wand and the summoning jutsu. My mistake was consuming stamina 2 times , one for running sideways, other for running towards her. I just ran to her in front and hacked her with bloodfang
For me, it doesn't matter if I keep preassure on her or not because no matter the circumstances she runs, casts, run, cast rinse and repeat and when I do get a m1 combo off, she floats back and on top
Watched this then beat her first try (after trying 20 times by myself) by just using my fist on the book girls, then using wolves 2nd phase. Thank you so much!!
I personally really like using the marionette soldier spirit summon for this fight in phase 2 as their rapid fire does a decent job of keeping her staggered and their range allows them to more quickly resume their attack whenever she moves away.
@@dimitrijetokovic5652 I think mine were +4 for the fight though I was lucky to an extent insofar as she started off trying to target me rather than the summons. The closest I came to dying was when she started summoning her own spirits.
Man! Ive been stuck on this boss for ages! I found that the Demi-Human Ashes worked better for me in terms of taking the agro away from me tho! But good guide nontheless
If ur a mage you should go to Caelid swamp get rock sling + met staff because it has S tier Scaling and rock sling does physical dmg (it’s boosted even more by met staff)
I had mercenary kaiden summon for this fight, his uppercut attack can actually launch her into a knockdown, during which you can just bash her face in. I think he had her on the ground for half the fight.
Another option, go to radahn place first, when you come back here you can cheese her with level and upgraded weapon (Higher tier smith stone drops there)
Im a spell blade build and this boss was infuriating. Dont love the idea of using summons because I feel like it ruins the autonomy of fighting bosses but I gave in for this one. Way too much work to keep doing attempts and learn her moves, not to mention all 4 of her summons... thanks for the help.
If you summon skeletons during phase 1, not only can they take some books for you, they revive on death like out in the world, which means they are ready to go for phase two without having to summon.
I did not realize she is magic resistant. I have managed to get her to the second cut scene but had no potions left. Will try rock sling or a melee weapon.
Rock sling works better than melee for mage builds who can’t win the dps battle. Keep a distance. Sounds dumb, but from up close the combo of her swings, homing needles and laser are going to hit you, it’s extremely difficult to avoid everything while finding time to swing. From far, it’s actually much easier to react and dodge her bullshit. You will be running around a lot and dodging but you shouldn’t get hit since you aren’t trying to rush her, just waiting for a chance to tap L1. Grab the medallion to boost spell power and the other one to reduce cast time, also use the meteorite staff as well. When she starts summoning, let them charge towards you then dodge/run around them and to her. Often she just stands there doing nothing and here is where you can deal a lot of melee damage. This is the most “fun” interactive way to fight her with any sort of success as a mage, otherwise this boss becomes a mindless dps check that will frustrate the hell out of you or force you to try and stunlock her with spirits
The most helpful for me was the wolf summon and the roll dodge at her I got to a point after dodging twice that we just had too much pressure she couldn’t attack and it was easy after that
My favorite part is when the sound of her dying played and I died by a damn falling star move so I had to run back. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't have gotten it to begin with until I saw your video. THANK YOU.
Pop summon. Wild strikes + bleed weapon + fire grease = dead. One of the few bosses you can just DPS down. She has low poise, so you can interrupt her casts.
I got killed her pretty easily as a pure mage build not by using a melee weapon but by using gravity spells on her, they seems to deal full damage to her (especially rock sling)
I'm surprised no one mentioned you can basically run up to her when she is summoning spirit ashes. I just spam R1 when she is summoning and run around avoiding her spirit ashes' attack.
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i cant summon spirits in this fight.....how did you do it?
i dont have the summon symbol in either stage of the fight
What sword did you use?
@@rodmongodwood That's peculiar since I was able to. Are you sure that you weren't running out of mana before it began or that your summons cost too much? If that isn't the solution I am not sure what it is.
@@HundredAcres no like i said i dint even have the "Grave" summon symbol on the left side of the screen
@@rodmongodwood That is really weird. And you didn't summon a Co-Op partner right? If not, I am honestly not sure.
Another option for summoning your spirits is putting them on your pouch quickslot and hitting summon the moment you reduce her hp to zero in phase one before the transition, so that way you enter phase two with them already on the field.
Exactly where i have mine binded.
Why ? I had the spirits the whole first part and the second?
@@mooserocka522 sometimes a chandelier drops in phase 1 that can do substantial damage to your summons, especially if you went in with them unupgraded like me. Just helps make sure you go into phase 2 with them at full hp.
This advice just made it 100% easier on the second phase! Thanks!
Wouldn't they get hit when she beams you in phase two?
If you are a mage USE ROCK SLING. You get that from the Street of Sages Ruins. It does normal physical damage
This did it for me ty so much
You may have just made my day!
STREETS OF RAGE.....How my brain reads that every single time
@@josemi8828 No worries :)
@@JadaKilla It really is helpful! T-T so great when you are a weak lil boi like my char.
The run to this boss was more annoying
You guys are too soft i remember the walks to the bosses in bloodborne
@@Yusa25talking about being soft on a video game😅 okie
@@Yusa25 ok well I havent played bloodborne
@@Yusa25 back in my day mf🤣
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No matter what you play it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to run straight up to her right off the bat so her beam go straight over your head. Cannot emphasize how much easier that makes this fight.
Edit : This apparently helped a lot of people out (including me). Glad I finally contributed something to the community lol.
Really good tip, thanks!
I beat her first try after using this tip thanks!
YO THANK YOU! This was a huge tip. Got her first try after seeing this
Very underrated comment. I beat her first try too!
Running sideways prevents you from getting hit by that
1. Spawn in your dogs right at the end of the first phase, they’ll be there when the second phase starts and they can take most of the aggro
2. USE ROCK SLING IF YOU HAVE AN INT BUILD, IT DESTROYS HER
3. If you can’t use rock sling, use a bleed weapon
She’s a cake walk if you do those 3 things
I had decent success with the skeleton spearmen summon as well. They can keep her staggered while you spam jumping attacks to break her stance
I can’t do shit, she is constantly spamming spells and never gives me an opening I’m constantly dodging. The more I progress through this game the more dogshit it becou
@@owen0566 Your summon is there to take some of the aggro off of you to give you an opening. Spawn in your summon before she goes to the second phase and then dodge her initial magic beam and you’re set. She gets staggered extremely easily
@@gabesoto9301 that’s what I’ve been doing and she spams that honing shit and the crystal bs constantly. And when all of my summons are on her she always does that giant moon spell and floats away.
shes also easy with the +6 sword of st trinia, took her out in about 7ish hits
The tip about being aggressive and staggering her in Phase 2 is key, without that she will quickly wear you down with her barrage of spells and summons. The wolf summons are extremely useful at keeping her busy, would also recommend upgrading them before this fight if possible. I think the long run from the closest site of Grace to the boss also makes this somewhat annoying especially the mages and their spells along the way.
Where is that closest site of Grace you mentioned? I ran from the Grace Site where I fought Radagon's Red Wolf, cross the beam to the path with rolling giant ball, and took the elevator. No mages encountered so far (as long as you didn't aggro them since they are far away from the Grace Site).
@@Morgru i use this path to get to her also, way easier dodging the ball than trying to dodge 4 mages
@@dimitrijetokovic5652If you go up to where the ball comes from (ladder behind locked door on left - you can jump on the window sill from the courtyard), and kill the mages on top it stops the ball from spawning
Just for posterity, you don't even need to dodge the ball. Just before you fight the Carian knight, there's a ladder up to a room with three sorcs and a pumpkinhead. Kill the sorcs and there's no more ball trap. You can just run unimpeded to the elevator each time after that. If you send the elevator down after the ride you don't even have to wait for that next time.
Her 2nd magic phase can be tough! Reminds me of the Shadows of Yharnam fight in Bloodborne where if you dont kill them quick the fight becomes like 2x harder. Same with Rennala's second phase, if you dont bum rush her and kill her quick her summons/magic will destroy you
Shadows of Yharnam was brutal!
For people dedicated to melee with no summons and no spirits, run STRAIGHT into her and jump attack. Most, if not all, her magic attacks will shoot straight over you, even the homing attacks and the shotgun blast. I think it's because youre actually behind her wand, so the attacks dont track backwards.
i did with no summons also and pretty sure u can only jump the ice spells i would have to roll after jump attacks cuz her spells still homing in
So that was a fucking lie
Ok so yeah the jump can be a bit difficult to i-frame. In that case just roll straight forward into her spells. The homing attacks cant track backwards. The only thing you have to watch out for are the close range propeller attack and the summons. I soloed at level 30, +2 special weapon. If youre lower level, you may struggle more.
Liar ahead
@@dimitrijetokovic5652 this made me spit out my hot tea lmao
As a melee build.
Phase 1: rush 3 glowing ones spam, repeat. On last attack before switching to phase 2 make sure to buff up with a flask, buff weapon, and summon wolf's. They all cary over to p2
Phase 2, charge her directly. Spam attack while she's lazering, if she runs rush her again. Never let her get away from melee range, and you can spam her down. If she hits you with pretty much any of her attacks it's game over.
Was super frustrating till I figured this out, and then got her first attempt I did the above.
Same finished her off last night I was like I need to summon before the second part lol 😂 She gives zero time in the 2nd part for a summon
@@Josh-py9rq you can for sure summon after she shoots the first beam of phase two. she has a lot of endlag if u dont hit her
Perfect advice, also if u lose her and she is on mid to long range just run left or right in circles around her untill you can close the gap again. It's actually too easy knowing the mechanic.
I love u, was frustrated for ages and got it with your strat first try
god damn ty for the advice, i kept backing away when she did the ranged attacks but tried following ur advice of just rushing it with the wolves and did it first try lol
This is possibly the most beautiful boss fight in the game. Honestly got major Deacons of the Deep vibes from this one.
I agree when I saw the students coming out during the cut scene I thought of my boss battle with the Deacons of the Deep.
Ancestor spirit is way better imo
Deacons and Rom.
Can’t even use my wolves on the second phase but I can’t use everything else of course lol
kind of made me sick, like i couldn't go on playing after this fight.. had to turn it off for a while.
Also another tip that helped me. If you collect armors or clothes. Change your chest and helmet to something with high magic resist. It makes a lot of a difference. Keep boots an gauntlets high armor. Unless you want to switch to mage stuff. But the magic resist numbers is important. I also have a shield that has high magic resist, add the ash of war-no skill- with the magic option. Gives bit more resist to magic. those attacks in the second phase, would take 3 of her charging beams to kill you, or at least my character. I died like 4 times.
Hmm in your video she barely summoned any spirits during the fight. In mine she summons a dragon, troll, dogs, and like 5 others.
I know like wtf????? When I fight her she starts spamming summons!
Thats y he tell you to summon wolves , and go super aggro so that she's being interrupted , and dosen't get the chance to summon 5 spirits .
Yeah you can't get close to her because she disappears and summons something all the time, remaining invincible throughout the fight. Snore fest.
my first time playing this boss, despite my cluelessness during the fight, the boss, the environment and the music was so mesmerizing except except for the creepy crawly graduates
RIGHT? I absolutely loved exploring the location
Yah freaking awesome experience
Her fight is very similar to The Four Kings, I find, in that it's effectively a war of attrition. You can't let up against her, you can't give her a chance to keep summoning familiars, you just got to keep on swinging until she falls, and pray that you've got enough damage and familiars of your own left to bring her down.
Huge thing for me was having my dogs upgraded. I failed probably 20 - 30 times with level one dogs. Went back and got them to level three and I beat her in my next attempt. I think with a higher level they must stagger her more or something because it was night and day.
Where did you upgrade them?
@@RIZZLER117 th-cam.com/video/lShPTQilSHA/w-d-xo.html
@@RIZZLER117 you have to get the lady for spirit tuning in the round table hold I forget her name but it’s a small quest line that you’ve likely already started if not finished
Good to know, i used the marionette archers and they get CREAMED by her spells. Ill give the dogs a shot
Dude thank you. After dying 7 or 8 times, I upgraded my demi-human ashes to +3 and beat her easily
For casters... Rotten breath works quite nicely on her, even in phase 1 with the shield. You still have to drop her shield one time, but if you tag her with it and proc the effect, it remains even when her shield is still up. You can proc it on her during phase 2 as well.
This has worked for me up until she summons her dragon which downed me in one attack.
Edit: Be warned if you try procing it in phase 2... for me, it wore off and left her with a sliver of hp left.
She's not resistant to gravity magic. This fight is extremely easy when you have the rock sling spell
Yeah. I think rock sling is a physical attack. So it’s perfect for magic resistant enemies.
Was about to say this too, purple rocks go brr
really slow...
Most fights are. Especially when you have the Meteorite Staff (which is pretty much right next to it).
@@elyasshussain5988 elaborate?
One tip I can give is that if you damage her in close range, she will almost always jump away after a hit. So instead of trying to string together hits, hit once and then preemptively roll forward so you can catch her when she jumps back.
I fucking hate the fact there are no marica statue near the boss, that is a fantastic mechanic that I don't understand because they only used it for some, the boss rush is just for stressing you out and breaking your balls, it doesn't add difficulty it's just an annoying waste of time.
Quite a few bosses have a site of lost grace right outside their boss door, which is a welcome change.
Of course, the bosses that DON'T have those are invariably the most unfair and un-fun bosses in the game. The Red Wolf of Radagon being my go-to example.
Thanks to this video and the helpful comments I beat her. Really cool boss the hardest part for me was the dragon but my 2 best tips are to summon the wolves before the second phase because you cannot summon there. And also the moon explosion attack usually kills the wolves but it always targets you so I would lead the moon away from your wolves. Also at the start of the 2nd phase run straight towards her and the moon beam will go over your head and that also allows you to close the distance so you can get in some melee attacks. The rock sling spell also really helped me in this because it does physical damage and the spell has a quick cast time.
No. It's true that it is much more efficient to summon before the 2nd phase but you can summon also during her 2nd phase. You can try to summon when she does that ice moon spell coz that takes alot of chanelling.
When I first came to fight this boss I had no idea where I was going. I just ended up fighting different bosses and upgrading my guy. When I finally realized where I was supposed to go to I was already lvl 60 so she was really fun.
I've been trying to beat her for days but now thanks to you I think I can finally do this!
This fight is actually super easy for mages if you have Rock Sling as it deals physical damage instead of magic.
Where can I find rock sling?
@@brownsuede4413 it's in Caelid close to where you get the Meteorite Staff (which boosts the Rock Sling sorcery)
The fight is really easy to begin with. Both as meele and mage.
Found it to be the easiest boss so far.
I’m starting to get to phase 2 but I keep getting killed. I use 4FP 2HP flask set up so I think this is my issue - but I’ll need it round 2 bc I planned to just harpoon her round 2. She ain’t easy!
@@brownsuede4413 caelid swamps south west. You get the meteorite staff which boosts Gravitation damage ad well and is the best staff in the game until you get Carian Regal Staff or Lusats and level them up
This was the first boss where I had to use a summon. First phase is easy, but second phase I was getting hosed due to lack of magic damage protection
same i temp switched to the clothes the mages drop on the way their becuz the rocks in the first phase would one shot me
Tons of videos were unhelpful; your was... Great Job! Subscribed!
Thanks G. The wolves and sacred slash combo worked wonders. Still had to try a few times because her magic melts my Paladin build. Try summoning the wolves right before you hit the last lit up enemy. Whatever you summon stays in the battle between phases and allows you to be free at the beginning of the second phase instead of summoning.
as a little note to someone who one-shot this boss, almost everything in phase 2 is solved by rolling forward... like that's it... all her spells except the darth maul swirly stick and giga beam can be handled by just rolling forward to her (and the dragon and troll)... also there's one gravity spell that doesn't do magic damage, it's the one with three rocks in the icon.
Yep...totally true. Just roll towards her and stunlock her... easiest bossfight in the game. Even as a sorcerer (which i am)
this is even my first souls game so if it works for me it should work for anybody~! Good luck with that wizard stuff! :D
Using rock sling (with meteorite staff) as a mage actually destroys this boss
Are the gravity spells a different type of damage?
@@leftovernoise Rock Sling deals physical dmg, not sure about the others tho
@IONIZE bleed can’t wreck her when she one-shots you in the second phase and never lets you get close. I just broke my controller 🙃
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 get a coop partner man, the bleed hits fast when 2 players with bleed weapon keep hitting her, as much as I want to solo her, her 2nd phase spell spamming is just cheap and will always one shot you
Watched your vid & beat this the next try after struggling a lot man. You’re a legend thank you
Thank you so much I watched this video and beat it first try after this!!
Mixed feelings about this one. Killed her on first try on my melee build. On mage (no summons run), it was less fun. For whatever reason the 1st phase girls kept spawning in the weirdest places and I spent far too much time looking for them, hiding behind some shelf near the fog gate. And then with death in 2nd phase after getting instakilled by comet azur, the run up + boring 1st phase was no fun. So bleh. Could’ve made the trivial Phase 1 shorter and added a Marika statue.
Otherwise a cool atmospheric fight. One of the creepier ones.
Oh, and for mage, Rock Sling is the answer. Preferably with Radagon Icon so you don’t get stuck in casting animation and hit by Rennala’s spells.
I beat her for the first time earlier today (STR/DEX build, Bloodhound's Fang, Lone Wolf Ashes). The first phase of this fight is like something out of an Ari Aster movie lmao.
Nice bro, I got a similar setup, what level are we're you when you did this fight?
@@ZaaRaphz I was level 42 and was able to get a whopping one level added after the fight. The first phase is a joke if you keep moving and don't spend too much time in the open (And also dodge the books flying around. They do pitiful damage, but still), then I relied on the Bloodhound Fang's bleed buff and combat art for solid damage and quick dodges during the second phase. The Lone Wolf Ashes helped out by having them deal with her summons while I kept dishing out pain and the fight was done within about 3 minutes👍
I’m using your spellsword build so this guide was an absolute godsend. However I swapped out the wolves for the marionette soldiers. Those 2 units kept her pinned with their relentless barrage of arrows.
I done the exact same and found success. I had barely any vigor, my stats were primarily intelligence. Had to resort to using dual weathered straight swords since my dexterity was 8 lol. Put bleed damgage weapon art on one and bleed grease on the other. Used cursed blood pots on renalla after the marionettes spawned in to make them extra aggressive and just kept pressure on her so she couldnt cast/summon. Found her to be extremely difficult until I used this method
I think her reveal under the full moon is one of the best in the game and up there in the entire soul series. I got a chill when she announced her 2nd phase when I fought her.
Was probably overleveled but nothing I can do about that. I like exploring. Beat her on my first attempt.
If you are having trouble dodging her beam wait for the wind up to finish getting small and wait one or two seconds before rolling to either side. For the rest of her attacks you should be able to walk to one side or the other and roll just before they reach you to dodge.
If you're having trouble dodging her beam, run straight towards her and it will go over you. "Wait one or two seconds" this isn't helping literally anyone, dumbass.
I have more luck just running sideways kinda closing in on her with her targeted but i confess to having bad roll instincts.
If you are a mage, simply use Rock Sling. Lots of damage, and counts as physical damage.
Your Elden Ring guides are awesome. Thank you so much for your content!
Getting in close was the key info that enabled me to beat her after many depressed failed attempts.. the nox priestesses worked well.. quite aggressive, short and medium range, good hp , Magic resistance.. that and the rosalindas twinblade. I'm a mage build. Had to re train. Many thanks.
When i got into this fight i did it almost 2nd try with ONLY ONE HIT LEFT (😭) after that i was struggling around because of getting hit by random stuff. After watching this video i did it first try no problems. Thanks a lot!!!
We died at the same time once. I killed her and her projectile killed me right after that. Luckily I defeated her in the next attempt
@@jondro6284 hahahah damn glad to hear you got it the next try. In my NG+ i killed her first try and got hit by the dragon a second later. Luckily survived that😂
I've beaten the game numerous times, in all of which I felled Rennala, and am just now hearing your advice for spirit summons and magic builds. Better late than never.
She can summon some crazy enemies as well. I've seen her summon a dragon and a giant troll
Exactly why I can’t beat her! She starts spamming summons! It’s infuriating! 🤬
@Robertus, the Philosopher watch her summon that aggressive knight that always chase you fast
This! The bitch keeps dropping dragons on my head.
@Robertus, the Philosopher can't ignore them, she backpedals and moves so fucking far away meanwhile a spider and a giant are fucking you up the entire time
This was so helpful like literally all ur information was on point thanks man
I just started playing like 2 weeks ago and I'm NOT Particularly good.
I have improved but this one was Tough!
TRIED to think of different strategies.
I'll throw poison Rocks 🪨 at her so she takes damage while shielded. It does work but not very well.
Different weapons, skills, thinking outside the box.
What finally worked was SHOCKINGLY simple.
+6 FLAIL & Wild strikes
(PHASE 2)
Dodge Kamehameha wave
call summon to pull agro
Heal / Buff ( if possible)
While avoiding seeking Crystals it's important to Flank In TOWARDS her Get in her face or better behind.
Hold wild strikes it just keeps going until you run out of Mana.
If you pull aggro away from your decoy summon.
Dodge Until he pulls it back. Third try this way I got it after MANY FAILURES.
Repeat as needed.
Few things to make this fight easier.
1. A weapon with higher stagger potential or bleed (she’s highly susceptible)
2. An ash summon that is extremely aggressive with a high Heath pool. A good one is banished knight Oleg. He has a high health pool and damage resistance and he’s highly aggressive, constantly on the attack so he’s good at maintaining attention and he’s got good damage potential.
3. When she summons her own spirits, DO NOT ENGAGE THEM, just run around because they time out after a few moments and even if you kill them she will have a chance to just re summon them again and she has a chance to summon either a giant or dragon that do high damage.
Awesome and very informative video! Thanks for sharing!
Make sure to summon right before you are going to take her down in the first part that way part 2 you can have your summons agro her and you can get in tons of damage
If you use the electrify armament and the banished knights Halbert +8 with spinning strikes you can one phase the first fight, you can get the Halberd at the revengers shack
Just beat her yesterday.
First phase reminded me of Deacons of the Deep because it was way too easy.
2nd phase is pretty epic though.
THIS RIGHT HERE. I've watched 3 guides after dying like 10 times and they all didn't work for me. This was perfect. Be agro, use wolves and i put blood ashes of war on my greatsword with occult variant. The first half i killed her while she was on the ground the first time lol didn't even have to wait for a second time. Then just dodge a few attacks, summon wolves, and jump straight into her like another awesome person in this comment section added. Thanks so much man. Subbed.
As a caster rock sling is physical damage, so you can use that if you don't want a weapon.
Thank you for posting this. I used your strategy and totally pwned this witch!
Thank you so much for this guide without it i probably would have been fighting her for hours, btw im shaking so much right now bc of adrenaline bc how good it worked thank yo
I recently bought Elden Ring in prep for the Erdtree expansion and am disecting it but couldn't understand her pummelling me 2nd phase until you said be aggressive. Saved the wolves summon til 2nd phase and used weapon skill instead of prophet flames. Wow and thank you!
If you're a mage use meteorite staff and rock throw it does physical damage I think
i was stuck fighting her for an hour just now, then i used the wolves once and beat her. Thanks bro, this video definitely earned you a like and subscribe
I actually really enjoyed this guide, it's a great format for boss guides, and I've upgraded to check out your other guides; expect more likes and comments outta me!
May not have been the most efficient but I used night maidens mist. That spell is actually super busted and has kind of been carrying me. You get it from Sage Gowry
Thank you for this awesome guide ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Pro tip for Mages: The Rock Sling spell does physical damage and absolutely melts Renalla, just hope that she doesn't summon her dragon friend! :P
I tried 5-6 times to beat her with casting Rock and it was a mess each time. Upgraded a Uchi to +8 with bloody slash and went two handed ninja and cleared it pretty easily first try.
After a maybe 5 or 6 attempts, I somehow destroyed her on her phase two. Everybody summon your wolves at the end of phase 1 in the second phase just go HAAM and hit her as much as you can don't worry to much about her spells just keep going untill she does her first summon. Found her super easy compared to other bosses ngl.
Highly recommend getting oleg amazing summon can tank hits eps for this fight found at the bottom of fringefolk hero's grave after killing a boss
Is it helpful to build up magic defense? Thinking my next level up will be Intelligence for this reason
I thought my shieldpoke build would have a tough time against her but it wound up in one try. Oddly enough phase 1 raising my shield against the book flingers while targeting them seemed to make them off their game a bit and barely anything hit me. Phase 2 I immediately target her and close distance in a tightening circle while my summons do their thing. A good time to attack her is right after you avoid her comet lance thing. Used light attacks to quickly build up stat effects on her . To be fair I had a good weapon with bleed and frost and usually fight her around 60lvl but went to 70 this time expecting a harder fight.
Finish first phase immediately summon Marionette Soldier Ashes +1 or 2
Start off with Finger Seal in left hand to cast bloodflame incantation
Hookclaws +2 in right hand
Two hand once bloodflame has been casted
Watch her bleed
Success! 1st time around with your advisement! A+
if anyone is still struggling, rush TOWARDS her not sideways, except for beam. The moment she backs off, take a second to refill stamina and rush TOWARDS her, no matter what happens. the flying spells miss you. The only thing you need to watch out is when she spins her wand and the summoning jutsu.
My mistake was consuming stamina 2 times , one for running sideways, other for running towards her.
I just ran to her in front and hacked her with bloodfang
For me, it doesn't matter if I keep preassure on her or not because no matter the circumstances she runs, casts, run, cast rinse and repeat and when I do get a m1 combo off, she floats back and on top
Watched this then beat her first try (after trying 20 times by myself) by just using my fist on the book girls, then using wolves 2nd phase. Thank you so much!!
Picturing you punching all those girls in the head made me chuckle
Man when I finished they first form I’m like this is too easy
I personally really like using the marionette soldier spirit summon for this fight in phase 2 as their rapid fire does a decent job of keeping her staggered and their range allows them to more quickly resume their attack whenever she moves away.
What level are yours? Mone are +2 and they get CLAPPED by her.
@@dimitrijetokovic5652 I think mine were +4 for the fight though I was lucky to an extent insofar as she started off trying to target me rather than the summons. The closest I came to dying was when she started summoning her own spirits.
@@deathkuramoto guess ill have to level mine up some more, cheers!
Man! Ive been stuck on this boss for ages! I found that the Demi-Human Ashes worked better for me in terms of taking the agro away from me tho! But good guide nontheless
Thanks so much for the help also she wasn't really that resistant to the meteor spell.
Hey, nice guide. I guess you are playing a evolution of your templar build here.
Can you make a guide for the build?
This would be really great.
If ur a mage you should go to Caelid swamp get rock sling + met staff because it has S tier Scaling and rock sling does physical dmg (it’s boosted even more by met staff)
Gravity Mage works too, however timing the rock slings can be tricky and dangerous...
Hey Fex, I've been trying to put a good moonveil katana build together I was wondering if you have any tips or are you doing a vid on it soon?
Good video thanks, I am a mage build and was getting slaughtered! Once I put on the bloody slash I beat her, great stuff😊
I had mercenary kaiden summon for this fight, his uppercut attack can actually launch her into a knockdown, during which you can just bash her face in. I think he had her on the ground for half the fight.
I already knew Kaiden Mercenaries were chads but I didn't think they could send a woman twice their size flying to the moon with one uppercut
Great - have beaten her now, and only after seeing this! I keep forgetting about my spirits, and mixing up approaches to play!
Another option, go to radahn place first, when you come back here you can cheese her with level and upgraded weapon (Higher tier smith stone drops there)
Im a spell blade build and this boss was infuriating. Dont love the idea of using summons because I feel like it ruins the autonomy of fighting bosses but I gave in for this one. Way too much work to keep doing attempts and learn her moves, not to mention all 4 of her summons... thanks for the help.
If you summon skeletons during phase 1, not only can they take some books for you, they revive on death like out in the world, which means they are ready to go for phase two without having to summon.
I did not realize she is magic resistant. I have managed to get her to the second cut scene but had no potions left. Will try rock sling or a melee weapon.
Rock sling works better than melee for mage builds who can’t win the dps battle.
Keep a distance. Sounds dumb, but from up close the combo of her swings, homing needles and laser are going to hit you, it’s extremely difficult to avoid everything while finding time to swing. From far, it’s actually much easier to react and dodge her bullshit. You will be running around a lot and dodging but you shouldn’t get hit since you aren’t trying to rush her, just waiting for a chance to tap L1. Grab the medallion to boost spell power and the other one to reduce cast time, also use the meteorite staff as well.
When she starts summoning, let them charge towards you then dodge/run around them and to her. Often she just stands there doing nothing and here is where you can deal a lot of melee damage.
This is the most “fun” interactive way to fight her with any sort of success as a mage, otherwise this boss becomes a mindless dps check that will frustrate the hell out of you or force you to try and stunlock her with spirits
Thanks so helpful because im a mage and now i have to get up close and personal lol
I realize that Marika Stakes are not in Rays Lucaria for lore reasons but god damn is the trek back to places annoying in the Academy
How much do you upgrade summons? Ive been looking for Summon upgrade items but i cant find any
The most helpful for me was the wolf summon and the roll dodge at her I got to a point after dodging twice that we just had too much pressure she couldn’t attack and it was easy after that
My favorite part is when the sound of her dying played and I died by a damn falling star move so I had to run back. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't have gotten it to begin with until I saw your video. THANK YOU.
For some reason, in my game, the glowing gold aura never appears. She's just permanently in the air.
You need to kill the gold aura sorcerer on the floor, 3 to break her shield.
I had the same issue but only when I was in co-op.
Same here, did it work when you died and tried again?
thx so much i literally had no clue what to do
I took her out quick with this method, thank you!
Pop summon. Wild strikes + bleed weapon + fire grease = dead. One of the few bosses you can just DPS down. She has low poise, so you can interrupt her casts.
I got killed her pretty easily as a pure mage build not by using a melee weapon but by using gravity spells on her, they seems to deal full damage to her (especially rock sling)
I'm surprised no one mentioned you can basically run up to her when she is summoning spirit ashes. I just spam R1 when she is summoning and run around avoiding her spirit ashes' attack.
oh god didn't expect it to be that hard when my brother said he will buy me kfc if i beat her
the second i zone in for part 2, she hits me with her magic streams
I can’t even find where the boss is and I’ve look all over the castle
This is basically the Rom fight from bloodborne but way more fun imo
Agreed, though I loved the tonal shift to Rom and the cutscene after, god damn it was creepy.
agree
she all but shrugs off the moonveil's ash of war however charged heavies or just regular slashing attacks burn her down pretty fast