Hole In The Head Disease (HITH) - Causes and how to treat, Oscar cichlids with HITH
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- We conduct a detailed examination 4 oscars with extreme cases of whats called Hole in the head (HITH) or Head and lateral line erosion (HLLE), we examine faeces samples, gill biopsy, test water quality, and we scrap the holes to examine samples under microscope to show you the exact causes in this extreme case of hole in the head disease and we show you the treatment process for these fish.
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You are truly amazing and gifted at what you do. I hope big channels like Discovery channel Or Animal Planet pick you up and make a show about fish medic that is currently missing their channel line up.
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You might be the only legit fish doctor in youtube lol. Your diagnosis is scientifically based and very professional! Subscribed.
I dont know of any other youtube channel that does what you do..Great job.. Oh and hello from the UK :)
thank you, and hola from Colombia (temporarily).
My dad is from London
@@thefishdoctor8746 what part of Colombia did you go? Did you like it?
God bless you for your gentleness and kindness.
Please wake up every day knowing that you’re supported by us because you’re good and kind.
OMG!!!! How does anyone let Their fish even get that bad?!? WTF!?!?
I'm new to ur channel n I'm so glad to have found. Great channel THANK U
Shit happens. Sometimes it's out of your total control. You can do what you need to help the fish but for the most part it's up to the individual fish's immune system. No one is intentionally letting HITH take over. It just happens.
@@xXIYANGXx yeah seriously. Currently going through this. Religiously change the water. I bought a sponge filter. I spent $100 on meds for him. I bought brand new food. I have researched endlessly and he's still dying. It's heartbreaking.
@@tiffanygrewal7179 I’m going through the same with my pet . I have tried all I could do to save her and put myself in debt with meds and she is still slowly dying 😭😭
Sometimes if you love something you just have to let go and accept it’s fate :(
Yeah honestly shit happens we have all fucked up and ended up with a dead fish. People are extremely flawed the only way to make sure it never happens is leave the fish in the wild lmao.
These videos are a unbelievably valuable resource thank you so much!
I noticed it on my oscars the other day. Head twitching and Small scabs around the nostrils and im already 48hrs into treating. Its crazy people wait untill this to bring them to you. I would be freaking out if I seen this in my tank lol
The only thing i want to see is how the fish look now, hope they survived!
great job man! you are the fish doctor and help alot of new fish owners from preventing infection.
those are awfully small oscars for hith to be that advanced
Kay Skywalker it happens all the time. When I worked at the fish store we saw this at least once a month.
I had one Oscar in a 65 gallon by himself.....
Kay Skywalker is it ok if you can look at my oscar video and zoom in on his head theres some circles im worried what these are
if you want you can give me youre email and i can send you photos scottetaylor@gmail.com.au
I'm getting it bounced back, are you sure about your email being correct?
Kay Skywalker oops soory about that.
its taylorscotte@gmail.com
Awesome video Doc - I really like the way you explain the treatment process . . . Thank you for sharing your knowledge ! ! !
fishlaw1 you'll have to thank our director
Hith is so common with these poor guys. Four oscars in a 50-60 gallon tank... just asking for health issues.
man i love watching all this, making me understand disease to prevent it happening to my fish...... cant wait for the flowerhorn side examinations and would like to say thanks to Flowerhorn Den for telling me to watch your channel
Aquaman : somebody save me.
Aquadoc : don't worry i will save u.
I lol'd
I wish u had update videos showinf the effects of treating. Really amazing job man.
I feel so bad for these babies. 😭
Me too :*
I was cringing the whole time he was examining them! So sad! He’s an awesome doc!
@NPC #303 fucking sexiest
@@cuddleshobbies6642 sexist? "Sexiest" is usually a compliment...
NPC #303 Holy shit, aren’t you a triggered little nutbag🤪
Glad that i found this channel..
U r the perfect Dr fr fishes to treat by showing how to diagnose n how to medicate fr it, we can't do that at home but sure we can
Plan out what the exactly problem our fishes r facing n how to treat them , thanks
Very helpful video. Thank you
Poor oscars
good god, i am so glad that i clicked on this video! thank you for posting this video!
I want to see what they look like after recovery! Those poor babies...
Hang on, I don't mean to be rude and I have huge respect for you. However, I've just watched the video and it doesnt identify what's causing the ulceration and holes in the head. You state that it isnt bacterial and you found no parasites other than the gill fluke.
Surely it HAS to be hexamita to cause those kind of holes? I know you didn't find any in the faeces but the evidence from the holes points thaf way.
One other thing I wasnt going to mention was the nitrAte. You suggest that it's under 50 so the owner must be doing enough water changes. I would suggest that ifs under 50 because his tank isn't fully cycled. Hence the ammonia and nitrite readings.
Despite what I've said, I do admire your work tremendously. Thank you for everything you do.
can you please list the treatment
great video, doc!
a columnaris video would be amazing!
Crazy, earlier today my General Biology lecturer went over the Gram stain and common bacterial shapes. Very cool getting to see it be applied to a fish diagnosis!!
Poor fish! I can't imagine how painful that is.
oh wow didn't even know this was a disease in fish! very educational and something to look out for definitely poor babies
That was fantastic! I'm glad I found your channel
I like to see the before and after treatment
Thank you so much for your educational videos. I learned what I DESPERATELY needed to know to hopefully save my Oscar.
Just FYI.....
During the part where you were explaining the dosage for the bacterial infection treatment, it SOUNDED like you said 14mg of Oxytetracycline instead of 40mg. I really thought I heard "fourteen" ...but, after doing the math...I realized you said "fourty".
However....someone else might not catch that.....and dose their fish ineffectively. Would you consider putting the dosages up on the screen in writing as you explain it? It would really help those of us with different accents and enunciation than your own.
Thank you!
Awesome information! Thank you for your contribution to helping the fish hobbyist. The information you provide us cannot be found anywhere. I am forever grateful.
thanks for info your awesome save fish'es lives. Your the only vet that knows how to take care of fish. Other vets dont
So finally what is the treatment for this
Awesome stuff! Thanks for starting this channel. I have a question. How do you treat hole in the head? Which medications do you recommend?
This man is a god.
...would be nice to show them again if they recovered.
Incredible!! amazing video man!
Amazing video's Thanks Dale Marsh for Sharing 🖒
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Hasanali3214321@gmail.com … This my gmail .. really I need your help in some thing
I would like if you could have just gotten to the point, what all is wrong and how to treat,
Did they survive?
One what, Emily? There's only one fish in the whole video.
Martin Cattani wow did you watch it?? There is four fish
Not sure where you went to school but I counted four fish.
Extremely interesting and informative video, thank you.
Just incredible. So much wonderful info.
*These oscar's get more care then me*
Shutup edge kid
Aside from learning some new things I also learned that those fish are not in good care this wouldn't have happened if the owner had checked more sooner and ensured that their food was good as well as ensuring that the tank was well maintained and getting their fish to doctor sooner if they did all that and there fish still managed to get sick then I wouldn't have a problem
People just got to keep their tanks clean. Don't just do water changes, clean the whole tank top to bottom. Also get yourself a powerful filter. For example, If you got a 10 gallon tank get a 20 gallon filter system.
ubastich right that's all you have to do
Oh. My. God.
Poor baby's... So not fair 😞
This is amazing. I love you channel hope you get noticed
Awesome information! Really enjoying your channel!
Hi, I'm not sure if you're going to see this but I wanted to determine whether or not my betta fish has hole in the head disease. So I just noticed she has pits on her head that aren't too big looking but they vary in size so I immediately thought she had hole in the head because of the pits and her momentary lethargy. At first I think she was just constipated because of how lethargic she was and then I noticed the pits in her head. I bought medicine right away but then I noticed she stopped being lethargic but the pits are still there. She is as energetic as ever but because of the pits, I have no idea whether or not she has hole in the head. If any of you can help me determine whether or not she has hole in the head I would be very thankful.
You may wish to post in our VISITOR post section on our Facebook page - tinyurl.com/thefishdoctor-facebook
Great channel......keep up the great work
I love your content. Thank you for providing this information.
I've had four Oscars and they never had this disease. all you have to do is keep the tank clean. Treat the tank with the conditioner to keep a slimy coat on them.
Hello doctor, i need your help for my flowerhorn fish popeye..my flowerhorn eyes is not like coming out but it was a cloudy inside it eyes,yesterday i have buy a medicine name mexamin and need to pour 10ml into my 2 and a half aquarium..i need to wait for a result,is that any other solution for my fish problem?
Good Oscar medcien tetmante
Can you also show the fishes after a week of treatment. To know whether the treatement worked out
Aswin Ravichandran we don't normally revisit clients when treatments have worked.
+The Fish Doctor Oh ok but fish hobbist like me would definitely want to know how did they do.Anyways thanks for the immediate reply.Looking forward to see more videos that will help Fish enthusiastist.
Hello Dr. Loving your videos and I'm getting lots of important info from them but wondering if you would recommend in using a uv inline sterilizer or eletrolysis unit to control bac and algae problems due to the area where my tank is located near my windows, I would appreciate any suggestions, Thank you Great vids.👍
In line UV will only take care of suspended algae that pass through the UV, so is good if you have that issue. An electrolysis unit may be more beneficial for algae growing on surfaces within your aquarium.
what is the best treatment for my guppy? it has white marks in the body?
Do the fish even survive after the surgery?
live gold fish & feeder water brings hold in the head. don't feed them live goldfish.
I feed mine mollies ps one of my tank is over crowded with them so I got another tank and bought a Oscar xd
Yup, once they show signs you can stop and the fish will heal, duh
ray don you can feed them gold fish and guppies but you need to put them in a separate tank for two weeks an purge them...along with parasite meds. The only way to do it and not get hith. Or just feed them a good cichlid pellet (New Life Spectrum) and frozen foods 🤷🏻♂️
always deworm them before feeding, it's just like having a holding tank for new fish. And keep that water clean!
That's just not true. Bad digestion is the cause of HITH. You need to give your fish a balanced diet with vegetables
Awesome channel!
Unbelievable absolutely amazing my friend!! Got me wanting to be a fish dr!! Lol😂
I had a sucker fish who had that but he was always hiding so it was to late when I found out about it, Rip:Assuage
Where is this amazing dr located? If my betta ever gets sick I would want him to treat him
Australia i think
I don't know if you have already done a video on this but have you covered dwarf gourami iridovirus.
lol this helped me study for my bacteria staining lab
Waiting for your new topics doctor.
Another great video. I met you years ago, you still living in Tas?
Why HITH only common in cichlids ?
Why you didn't apply PM lesion for the diagnosis
Thanks
Trypophobia
dont.....say...that ._.
spyro matt I knew someone was going to bring this up smh.
spyro matt Same. When my Oscars had This, I was struggling to look at them
Hi I need your help for my oscar
i love oscars!
they are excellent eating fish
Thanks for the info. I have a apistogramma that may have hith. I feed him brine shrimp and bug bites cichlid formula. Should I decrease the brine shrimp and increase the bug bites? The water parameters are good. The other fish in the tank are fine. He is now in a treatment tank. I have dosed it with general cure and melafix. Should I also feed him a medicated food ( metradiozole I think that's how it's spelled)? Thanks
What causes white rings on top of Oscar's head?I have videos of what I'm talking about
What was the point of going to all that effort for a group of fish that were on deaths door?
hey there. I just got a new oscar. he was in a tiny tank at petsmart..I had to rescue him. they're my favorite fish. how do I simply prevent hole in the head? my last Oscar succumbed to it and he was HUGE. at. least 10 inches...I want to ensure I completely avoid it ever happening again
Brittanni Murphy this is explained in our video
This is quite interesting. I think I will subscribe!
In your practice do you dose vitamin C only with water changes or do you do that with after a few days have passed to top up the vitamin C content in the water column?
Amazing job
So i may have missed- what was the cause of hole in head? I saw diet, gill flukes, and secondary infection. So what about flagellants? You mention diet- I fed Hikari Oscar food- is that not good enough?
Hi, my Oscar fish not eating anything what to do.
Please help me please sir.
Water change 30percent after that you should add rocksalt 4 spoons and its back to normal
Great video just subscribed hello from Texas Doc.
Hello dr
My oscar fish is suffering from dropsy and hole in the head diseases severely and now its falling asides and cannot swim properly
requesting you to guide
It will be more helpful if you suggest medication or treatment 🙏🏻
reply as soon as possible
please ...
My FLOWER HORN has hole in the head! Can you please help me! Thanks 4 the support
Very interesting, what is the medicaments pls oxytetracycline and ? The others pls doctors. Thank u so much
Jalal Jalal medicines used and their dose rates are customised to each situation. In this case we used praziquantel and oxytetracycline.
The Fish Doctor thank you very much Doc u r the best👍🏻 My regards for u from Algeria
My blood parrot had those red thing on it grill and keep open bigger is there a treatment for that bro ?
Hey doc I need your help!
I have a 1.5 year old green terror cichlid which is about 7" long. Very healthy looking, active, eats great too.
I believe he has hith which was triggered by a small injury above his eye that happened after he hurt himself on a branch in the tank. I small pit formed. Maybe 1mm in diameter or smaller.
He also has the occasional clear or transparent green/brown poop. But often times it's normal.
Treatments he has recieved.
1. Epson salt soaked food for 5 days, followed by feeding new life spectrum hex shield for 5 days. Keep in mind he didn't eat much of the new life spectrum food. Broke it down in his mouth and out the gills mostly.
2. Metroplex with focus sprinkled on his favorite small disc pellet. His dosage during this time would of been on the high side of the recommended amount of metro. I fed him twice a day for 2 weeks.
My concern now is that even after all this he still has some poops the odd time which is not normal. So I don't know if he is still infected with the parasite or not. I don't want to extend and keep medicating for long time which will cause harm.
Help please
good gob doc
Hi doc my lemon Oscar has a hole in the head... He was with the rest of the Oscars in the tank. Now I've quarantined him n put him in another tank... He's in a primary stage.. just one hole n he's still active.. so how do I treat him? Please let me know, would appreciate it.. thanks in advance 🙏🏽
As discussed in the video, the causes of HITH can be varied, and treatment is aimed at addressing the primary causes.
To get a better idea of your problem, you may wish to post with pictures or videos in our VISITOR post section on our other Facebook page - tinyurl.com/thefishdoctor-facebook
thank you for the info i have an oscar but hes very healthy but i was watching to learn abit incase anything ever did happen thank you so much
My Karp has it, It died
do you find prazi is the best medication to treat hith, as there are many other meds such as metro and flubendo, and all the other hith aquarium treatments, why did you choose prazi, is it a fast acting treatment or is it because its readily avail to you. thanks
If I were to take out the fish from the infected tank and left the tank empty of stock for several months will The Hole in the head disease die off since there is no host fish? I also thought of removing the fishes to a quarantine to treat with metronidazole. My infected tank is 260gallons with fancy goldfish. I plan to move them to a 20 gallon to treat the fish separately. It's only 3 fancy goldfish left the rest died. Also for the infected tank I plan to overdose it with Salt hoping the satiny level will kill the HITh disease. Please respond to my comment ASAP
ThatOne Guy theoretically, obligate parasites will die out. however, recent evidence in other parasites suggests some parasites may survive longer periods, living on slime of the fish! so i can't say for sure. how long you'd need to spell the tank
I think Treating with metronidazole for the fish in a separate tank will eradicate the parasites for them. I'm just curious if leaving my stock tank empty of fish will let the parasite die off without a host.
Its either emptying my infected tank and letting it dry out or just leaving it alone without a host fish hoping the parasite dies
chlorination and drying is routinely used in high biosecure facilities. remember that some fish naturally carry Hexamita, so it may come in with the fish. best is to maintain healthy water and fish.
ThatOne Guy Metronidazole everyday and change water 50% percent everyday. Till the hole heals. I have recovered my Flower horn this way. Requires lot of patience. Good luck.
Dr Richmond loh what is the meaning of HITH
Prathap reddy surya acronym for "hole in the head" disease
Great video
If I will ever be a fish I would want to be this persons fish
Hey doc will feeding live cricket be beneficial for fighting the HiH disease